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Can Comics be shipped through the USPS as Media Rate
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Can Comics be shipped through the USPS as Media Rate
May 19, 2005 08:01 PM
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Can anyone say definatively yes or no? Some clerks will accept packages for this rate and others say No...claim its "Magazines and has advertising" etc. Its been a crap shoot at the post offices I use and I'm tired of getting burnt on large shipments if I can in fact ship Media Rate. They end up using this other rate that maybe saves a dime called Printed Material but is a variable rate based on where its going by Zip Code so many times its about the same as First Class. Tonight at the 24/7 Post Office I figure it cost me an extra $40. I try to kkep my shipping cost to a minimum to my customers but its getting to be a losing proposition when the post office will not cooperate! Please advise and thanks for input Tony
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Can Comics be shipped through the USPS as Media Rate
Nov 9, 2005 02:24 PM
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Understood, but luckily I haven't received any complaints yet about damaged goods through Media. However, I've received plenty of ripped, crushed & mangled packages through First class, Priority, etc. So it seems that nothing's really treated as nicely as we may want. At least with Media, it will most likely be returned if there's a problem rather than being chucked in the trash by people who are conditioned to treath anything labelled BPM that way. ~
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Can Comics be shipped through the USPS as Media Rate
Nov 9, 2005 02:29 PM
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I ship a lot of Magazines---and I use Bound Printed when they weigh over 13 ounces and First Class when they weigh under that. Had a couple of BPMs returned---with no problems
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Can Comics be shipped through the USPS as Media Rate
Nov 9, 2005 02:36 PM
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and USPS does monitor these boards---at least the Packaging and Shipping board and because "myownbidderidnowicanneg!" decided to go over there and proclaim that Comic Books can go by Media Mail---there will probably eventually be a memo sent to all the POs making sure they all know that they can't So---you just may have to 'EMBRACE' the BPM after all
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Can Comics be shipped through the USPS as Media Rate
Nov 9, 2005 02:39 PM
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That's great! That will be my recourse when the post office tells me I absolutely, positively cannot send comics with Media Mail. Currently they tell me I absolutely, positively can!  ~
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Can Comics be shipped through the USPS as Media Rate
Nov 9, 2005 02:42 PM
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The clerks at your Post Office say yes---but someone down the line (all the way to the Postman who delivers it) can inspect your package and have a differing opinion and will slap on Postage Due.
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Can Comics be shipped through the USPS as Media Rate
Nov 9, 2005 03:05 PM
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Dude - here's my problem... those clerk's job is to answer questions with accurate information - that's why they are standing at that counter waiting to serve. Just like any customer service agent who works for any other governmental agency. Let's say you were disturbed by a neighbor chainsawing trees at night & you went into your local police department to asked the police administrator at the head desk if there was any law against people using chainsaws after dark. And she answered "you cannot use a chainsaw in this town after dark, would you like to file a complaint?" Would you then say... how do I know you're telling the truth? How do I know you know what you're talking about? I demand to speak to the chief. If the chief told you the same thing and that they'd be glad to send a patrol car round to speak to your noisey neighbors, would you demand to talk to your mayor, then the county assemblyman, then your Governer, etc. to see if the chief understands his own laws? So why should I question these clerks and their superiors who've all told me the same thing in every P.O. I've gone to - why should I try to find some way to exclude myself from using a service that works well for me and my customers when the people who are representatives of the very delivery service I'm utilizing state that it's okay? ~
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Can Comics be shipped through the USPS as Media Rate
Nov 9, 2005 04:18 PM
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There's no logic when dealing with people who are by nature skittish and extremely risk-averse. I'll keep sending and receiving comics Media Mail. If they ever get "upgraded" I'll deal with it then, either by rebating my customer or by taking it up with the USPS more directly. After all, thanks to those noobs on the P&S board, I now have a more intimate relationship with my Postmaster than I'd hoped for. ..........
Check out my "ME" page for a link to The Corral - sweet freedom is at hand!
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Can Comics be shipped through the USPS as Media Rate
Nov 9, 2005 04:18 PM
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It doesn't matter--if someone down the line inforces the 'CORRECT' policy of Comic Books not qualifying, it is your problem (or at least your customer's) So--keep using Media Mail, until it bites ya
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Can Comics be shipped through the USPS as Media Rate
Nov 9, 2005 04:28 PM
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I'll be sure to post it here when it happens - but don't hold your breath! As I've stated before, make sure you are on good terms with your postal clerks - I hand out a couple of gift cards at Xmas (seriously!) and a bag of bagels every now and then is welcomed. Most people treat the clerks like dog doo and I would imagine I've engendered a fair amount of goodwill. Work the system before the system works you. ..........
Check out my "ME" page for a link to The Corral - sweet freedom is at hand!
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Can Comics be shipped through the USPS as Media Rate
Nov 9, 2005 07:41 PM
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I've been sending and receiving comics via Media Mail for 6 years now. My PO doesn't have a problem. And the Postal Inspectors that have opened my mail have ALL approved the comics inside as being legitimate items for Media Mail. Now I've read the DMM and I fully understand that they could reject them back to the sender for containing advertisments (or try to get me to pay a higher rate for my package), but to date no rejections or claims that I owe them money have ever happened. This is the part that drives everyone nuts... the USPS is inconsistent with how they enforce the regulations. I'm not sure what I can say to others when my local PO clerks, the local head of rates and classification, and postal inspectors for my area, have all approved comics for Media Mail.
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Can Comics be shipped through the USPS as Media Rate
Nov 14, 2005 11:33 AM
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Gee, all the citings of rote, the dramatic postings, the admonitions and pronouncements of doom, and yet..... no one can give me just one, teeny, tiny, little example of a parcel containing comics and mailed using the media mail rate, having been opened in transit and assessed additional postage due. Not one. Funny, that. And people think I'm the crazy one. Yeesh!
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Can Comics be shipped through the USPS as Media Rate
Nov 14, 2005 12:07 PM
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no one can give me just one, teeny, tiny, little example of a parcel containing comics and mailed using the media mail rate, having been opened in transit and assessed additional postage due. Not one. Funny, that.
Well, I can. I had an item opened by the post office in transit (1st and only time so far, to be sure) and was contacted stating that if the recipient chose to pay the additional postage, there would be no problem. If tbey didn't, the item would be returned to me at appropriate rates and I'd have to pay all the extra shipping. As the item hadn't been identified as to which parcel (odd), I couldn't track it down to address any concerns on the part of the recipient as I recall.
SO--yeah, it can happen. http://www.chrisjuricich.com/eBay_pics/apic.JPG
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Can Comics be shipped through the USPS as Media Rate
Nov 14, 2005 12:15 PM
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Well, I can. I had an item opened by the post office in transit (1st and only time so far, to be sure) and was contacted stating that if the recipient chose to pay the additional postage, there would be no problem. If tbey didn't, the item would be returned to me at appropriate rates and I'd have to pay all the extra shipping. As the item hadn't been identified as to which parcel (odd), I couldn't track it down to address any concerns on the part of the recipient as I recall.
SO--yeah, it can happen.
OKAY! Now we're getting somewhere! Just to clarify, please, since you've provided no useful details and can't provide any 'evidence' of this occurring, not even the recipient's 'word' that it indeed happened as you alleged: 1) it was comic books, right? 2) you sent them via USPS using the media mail rate, right? 3) you say you were 'contacted', by whom and by what method? If in writing, do you have a copy of this? If by another method, how and how did they get ahold of you? 4) you say the 'apporpriate rates', what service tier was that? 5) you never heard from the recipient, yet the recipient, according to your story, was hit with a COD fee? but never contacted you about it? really?
Whew, and here I thought no one would be able to provide some insight on this issue. Boy was I ever wrong! baa baaaa baaa ONE OF US!ONE OF US!
No, really, I believe you. I really, really do! You seem to have all the requisite proof right here at hand! (sarcasm, sorry).
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Can Comics be shipped through the USPS as Media Rate
Nov 14, 2005 02:01 PM
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With all due respect, why would you choose to disbelieve me? Sarcasm aside, it's difficult to presume the tenor of your message overall. Though I'm betting it's a safe guess you don't believe me. Fine-- I have no idea who you are, I have no vested interest in 'proving' anything about the exigencies of media mail vs other classes; I simply put forth my own experience and you had to act like a Dick about it. Jeezis. To attend your questions-- I mailed comic books via USPS media mail and they were opened in transit by the USPS. They sent me a form letter which provided the information which I provided in my earlier post about the recipient having a choice about paying the extra shipping fees. Thanks mr zero feedback. Hope this helps, and if it doesn't, well... http://www.chrisjuricich.com/eBay_pics/apic.JPG
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Can Comics be shipped through the USPS as Media Rate
Nov 14, 2005 02:10 PM
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Hi, tokyodays! Even though nowicanneg's message was delivered in a confrontational manner, I must admit I was curious about whether your buyer contacted you about having to pay postage due. Did anything else come of this? If not, perhaps the recipient's clerk chose not to assess the extra fees.
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Check out my "ME" page for a link to The Corral - sweet freedom is at hand!
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Can Comics be shipped through the USPS as Media Rate
Nov 14, 2005 02:12 PM
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Thanks for the additional information. By any chance did you save the form letter and could you post a scan? Did you have to physically go to the Post Office or were you able to call a phone number to say send the parcel through? I'm sorry you feel that I'm being a dick, but hey, that makes up for some of those occassions where I've thought the same about you while reading your Oh So? drivel. Thanks!
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Can Comics be shipped through the USPS as Media Rate
Nov 14, 2005 02:15 PM
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C'mon, dude, that's out of line. I read CBG as well and while I'm somewhat ambivalent about many of the letters there, you can just skip them if you find them offensive/boring/etc. ..........
Check out my "ME" page for a link to The Corral - sweet freedom is at hand!
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Can Comics be shipped through the USPS as Media Rate
Nov 14, 2005 02:23 PM
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Well, your baa baaaa baaa ONE OF US!ONE OF US!
*was* a little dickish...
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Check out my "ME" page for a link to The Corral - sweet freedom is at hand!
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Can Comics be shipped through the USPS as Media Rate
Nov 14, 2005 02:27 PM
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Yes, indeed it was, and although unnecessary, it was cathartic and so I do not regret it. Hopefully, TD can forgive my disbelief (caused in large part by pedantic Packaging & Shipping posters who speak knowledgeably until asked to provide proof) and tell us some more about his Buyer who was asked to pay for shipping TWICE yet apparently said nary a word of complaint about it to the Seller.
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Can Comics be shipped through the USPS as Media Rate
Nov 14, 2005 02:48 PM
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Agreed. (cathartic! LOL) ..........
Check out my "ME" page for a link to The Corral - sweet freedom is at hand!
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Can Comics be shipped through the USPS as Media Rate
Nov 14, 2005 03:21 PM
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sigh
One more reason to avoid going to these discussion boards has been provided by nowicanneg (0). Yes, I called him 'Dick' for obvious reasons (all save for him, it seems) and then he chooses to trash my letters in the ohso column at CBG.
This was the reason why I stopped going to online discussion boards in the first place-- the rants and ravings of people without editors! Most folks seem to know how to comport themselves and refrain from too aggressive or impolite written behavior, but there were too many rotten eggs in that virtual basket for my tastes.
No, I didn't scan the letter from the USPS. Nothing ever came of it and my feedback remains at (2041) and 99.9% positive, Mr Zero feedback.
Feel free to rant in return, Mr nowicanneg whatever.... I've got better things to do.
Gallinator-- thanks for the tip on the URLs you had there in the anti-CGC business. Good stuff. http://www.chrisjuricich.com/eBay_pics/apic.JPG
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Can Comics be shipped through the USPS as Media Rate
Nov 14, 2005 03:52 PM
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I had a media mail package of comics upgraded to priority rate because a worker in Ohio said it did not qualify, and yes i refunded the difference to the buyer. No big deal. They didnt even realize why it came postage due until they went to their local post office a couple days later. They emailed, i refunded and got a great repeat customer out of it. drautosound out for 3-more.
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Can Comics be shipped through the USPS as Media Rate
Nov 14, 2005 06:14 PM
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Thanks drautosound - Another great reason to send comics with Media Mail! If your package does get opened and a citation gets applied - you can gain repeat customers! COOL! ~
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Can Comics be shipped through the USPS as Media Rate
Nov 14, 2005 08:11 PM
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I like that positive outlook! And I do think that, for the most part, any customer thus affected would be quite understanding as long as the seller was willing to refund the extra fees paid (no one likes the USPS). ..........
Check out my "ME" page for a link to The Corral - sweet freedom is at hand!
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