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Ebay's Giant Price Hike
Jan 26, 2010 01:03 PM
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EBAY: I just read your latest bulletin, and I am angry and dismayed. I am outraged over this HUGE increase in the commission fee charged by Ebay just announced. Before, if I sold something for $100, ebay took about $4.70. Now you will take $9.00. On a $200 item, you used to take $8.20, now you will take $18.00. On a $300 item, it used to be $11.70. Now it will be $27.00. On a $400 item, it used to be $15.20, now it will be $36.00, For a $500 item, it used to be $18.70, now it will be $45.00. And since payment now must be taken through electronic means, such as paypal, and a SECOND commission paid there, ebay-paypal will collect 12 to 13% of the total price of any item. How DARE you claim this is a BETTER DEAL THAN EVER. The lower insertion fees do not begin to make up for this huge price hike. This is DISHONEST. If your costs are up and you need to increase commissions, say so. But you are simply LYING to claim this is a better deal for the seller. This is enough to prevent me from using your service.
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(1 of 64)
Re: Ebay's Giant Price Hike
Jan 26, 2010 01:06 PM
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yep, your figures are spot-on. It's a huge price increase for me, too. I guess eBay figured none of us would be smart enough to whip out our calculators and do the math. (This is my buying ID.)
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(2 of 64)
Re: Ebay's Giant Price Hike
Jan 26, 2010 01:12 PM
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Your post is what many are saying. If you sell unique/non-repeating items that have some value (say $100+) ebay IS DOUBLING what it charges you. If you read some other posts like yours, ebay responds with sell more and open a store. That is a lame statement by ebay and often not possible for people selling collectible or vintage or other unique valuable items (which is what made ebay what it is). If you sell those type items you need them to sell in the auction format, and even if you sell more (like a hundred or more a month) you will just PAY DOUBLE with ebays new fees. It appears ebay wants people to sell inexpensive items repeat items, in a store or fixed price sale format. Or very expensive items so the $50 cap makes it a good value.
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(3 of 64)
Re: Ebay's Giant Price Hike
Jan 26, 2010 01:13 PM
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feebay wants to be Walmart.
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(4 of 64)
Re: Ebay's Giant Price Hike
Jan 26, 2010 01:14 PM
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 Luck is the residue of effort.
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(5 of 64)
Re: Ebay's Giant Price Hike
Jan 26, 2010 01:15 PM
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Yes, eBay thinks this is a good deal for us... The nerve to start out their email with this... "Starting March 30, 2010 selling on eBay will be a better deal than ever!" What they really mean is... "will be a better deal than ever!" for eBay to add more money to our bottom line at the expense of our captive users.
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(6 of 64)
Re: Ebay's Giant Price Hike
Jan 26, 2010 01:20 PM
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I agree. Ebay has the right to charge whatever it wants for it's service (I mean I don't like paying more, but still it is within their rights to do that). What I do not like is being lied to, and they do it ALL the time. It's bad business and just plain wrong.
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(7 of 64)
Re: Ebay's Giant Price Hike
Jan 26, 2010 01:22 PM
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Wow! Thanks for doing this chart. I am sure I am like many others. I am a collector first. I sell a few things from my personal collection so I can afford to buy a few new things. My only source of merchandise is my own closets and bookshelves. How much volume do I need to sell to make having a store worthwhile? What other sites are there to use? Ebay started as the granddaddy of yard sales and classified add pages. Now it wants to be Sotheby's. I don't know what do now.
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(8 of 64)
Re: Ebay's Giant Price Hike
Jan 26, 2010 01:25 PM
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Ebay has the right to charge whatever it wants for it's service True, and I have no gripe with that. What irritates me is that they're pissing on my leg and telling me it's raining. Wow! Thanks for doing this chart. I can't take credit for it. Another seller, who is much better than I at these, things created it. Luck is the residue of effort.
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(9 of 64)
Re: Ebay's Giant Price Hike
Jan 26, 2010 01:32 PM
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This Is Absolutely Ridiculous. ebaY Did This Last Time Putting The Spin On It "We Are Lower Listing Fee's! ...........and rasing fvf's" Straight Wicked. Hey ebaY This Is Not The time To Be Bending Your Business Partners Over. I Truly Believe In The Next Year Or Two Amazon Or Google Will Destroy You For Making These Stupid Moves & Honestly I Will Dance A Flippin Jig The Day It Happens......Your Bad.
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(10 of 64)
Re: Ebay's Giant Price Hike
Jan 26, 2010 01:34 PM
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cef-at-vimy wrote: EBAY: And since payment now must be taken through electronic means, such as paypal, and a SECOND commission paid there, ebay-paypal will collect 12 to 13% of the total price of any item.   AND at that rate, most sellers of antiques and collectibles are better off using an auction house! ebay started as the place to avoid huge fees-- why not consign to an auction house at 15% and let them do the work? I would hope that ebay rethinks this POORLY THOUGHT OUT AND POORLY PRESENTED STRATEGY!
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(11 of 64)
Re: Ebay's Giant Price Hike
Jan 26, 2010 01:41 PM
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Imagine a cable television subscription with an increase of this magnitude-the outcry would be huge! It usually is if the increase is a mere few dollars. Higher postage, higher eBay fees-the customers are not exactly going to be flocking to eBay because I don't know many people who will "support" an eBay selling habit very long. Besides, eBay wants to model these fees after a business plan that never changes! I don't sell the same items, resulting in the same profits month after month! eBay wants bigger fish as sellers-I get that. Problem is, I have purchased from some of these and if they are non communicative or otherwise blow you off, etc. there is not much recourse. As many transactions as they do, a negative will roll off their feedback front page in an hour. I recently paid for a $3.28 item with a gargantuan seller and was accused of non-payment. Rather than risk a UPI, I paid again. The seller never did give my $ back and there was no point in pursuing it as far as I was concerned-my time and frustration is worth more than $3.28. I KNOW where the big sellers are-they are called Big Box stores and malls. I can go there anytime I want and get instant gratification.

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(12 of 64)
Re: Ebay's Giant Price Hike
Jan 26, 2010 01:43 PM
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This turns out to be a HUGE fee increase for our store. The majority of our sales are in the $30 to $200 range. Our eBay fees for 2009 were $7179.12 and now with the new formula (the increase from $25 to $50 and the higher percentages) means those exact same sales would have run me $10085.30 in fees. Thats an increase of over 40%!!!!!!! and if not for the fact that we have a store subscription the increase would be OVER 70%. HOLY #$@@&*^%$ Jerry - Online Sales Center
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(13 of 64)
Re: Ebay's Giant Price Hike
Jan 26, 2010 01:47 PM
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I guess it is time to stop closing items in my store. I still can't figure out how Ebay is able to state that they are lowering insertion feees when store fees are going to .20 per. So they are lowering my insertion fees by raising them between 400%-700% monthly. The angle of better search results does not apply for anyone in the Sports collectibles category so watch as the stores close and the inventory dwindles! "Lowering insertion fees" -- sound like fraud to me!
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(14 of 64)
Re: Ebay's Giant Price Hike
Jan 26, 2010 01:50 PM
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Ebay does it again!!!! bend over!!!!!!!!
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(15 of 64)
Re: Ebay's Giant Price Hike
Jan 26, 2010 02:00 PM
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If I am reading this right. I have about 200 listings in my basic store that renew every 30 days for 3 cents per listing (a total of $6.00) Once this conversion takes place, I will be paying 20 cents for these same listings (a total of $40.00). That means I will be paying 667 percent more to list here?????? Does not make any sense to keep a store or even sell on this site anymore. I sell collectibles, unique, rare, one of a kind, and right now, with this economy way down on everyone's priority. I'm not selling mass produced disposable carp with a mark up that makes the Rockies seem like ant hill. Bottom line...I think this is it for me on this site. I'll start phasing out here and move along to other sites that don't charge all these ridiculous usurious fees. Viva Bonanzle.
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Re: Ebay's Giant Price Hike
Jan 26, 2010 02:09 PM
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I have looked pretty carefully at comparable sales prices of art and antiques at major auction houses and on eBay and agree with scottiques -- it used to be that on modest items ($100-$1000) eBay was almost always a better net deal because of the low FVF, despite the lower sales prices usually achieved on eBay. But when you combine a lower sales price with a 9% FVF, the incentive to sell on eBay (along with the significant hassle of careful packing and shipping) the incentive to sell on eBay is now greatly diminished.
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(17 of 64)
Re: Ebay's Giant Price Hike
Jan 26, 2010 02:13 PM
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I don't understand the emphasis on auctions....these days most buyers don't even care for them. They want an item and don't want to fight someone else for it. The novelty of the auction has worn off. Specifically, I want to know why eBay thinks it is okay to rate hike through the roof yet want us to auction our stuff off starting less than $1.00. If they want to sacrifice some inventory to gain new buyers, they need to purchase their own inventory and sell it at a loss. It really feels like they presume too much. They haven't shown the slightest inclination toward marketing their own merchandise (like a certain hugely popular site), yet they change fee schedules as if there really is nowhere else to go. I'm not really worried about the rate hike. I think it is more of a death knell for eBay than it is for me. I can slowly extricate myself from the situation, but eBay will just be another Circuit City, quickly sliding into irrelevance, yet failing to ever see the prognostications of its actions.

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(18 of 64)
Re: Ebay's Giant Price Hike
Jan 26, 2010 02:20 PM
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I joined the ranch last February and have been moving lots of my stuff over there. Looks like more will be moving over. Not doing so badly there. if everyone moves and buys that will help.
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Re: Ebay's Giant Price Hike
Jan 26, 2010 02:24 PM
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I don't understand the emphasis on auctions....these days most buyers don't even care for them. They want an item and don't want to fight someone else for it. The novelty of the auction has worn off. Really? Tell that to Heritage, Teletrade, and numerous other online auction houses that are doing gangbuster business. Contrary to popular mythology, auctions are alive and well. They don't work well for stuff that can be had at Walmart, but they are still THE ticket in collectibles and antiques. Luck is the residue of effort.
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(20 of 64)
Re: Ebay's Giant Price Hike
Jan 26, 2010 02:26 PM
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EBay, It is amazing how many mathematicians are on eBay. Auctions reaching $25 - $500 get the big commission increases. Instead, how about doubling or tripling or quadrupling the final valuation fees on the under $25 auctions. That would help weed out the increasing amount of yard sale trash that permeates your site.
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(21 of 64)
Re: Ebay's Giant Price Hike
Jan 26, 2010 02:31 PM
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So sorry if my comment was not applicable to your situation in particular. However, one has to ask why eBay has to basically grovel to obtain the .99 auction starting price desired. If auctions starting low bring so much more profit, why aren't more people doing them? This pricing structure is an obvious push to get more auctions starting at lower prices. And, as pointed out by savvy previous posters, eBay is not being very hospitable to the sellers of the items you are detailing. On the contrary, seems as if eBay wants purveyors of such items to go to the places you delineated. Amazon is also doing "gang buster" business on some very mundane (as regarded by some) items consistently. At any rate, eBay does not seem to be emulating Amazon nor seeking to attract a more elite clientele.

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(22 of 64)
Re: Ebay's Giant Price Hike
Jan 26, 2010 02:32 PM
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I just did the math and I am a bit frustrated. If I sell 20 items a month for $100 each my current FVFs would be $96.40 (4.82x20). In the future if I choose to subscribe to a store (which I basically have to do in order to avoid a 9% FVF) my total FVFs for the same 20 items would be $127.60 PLUS I have to pay an extra $15.95 a month to be able to have a store...that is an extra $47.15. Right now I have nothing on (still resting after a busy December) but I usually sell more than 20 items per month which means that $47 would end up being even more than that. I don't see how this can be spun any way other than a price increase!!
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(23 of 64)
Re: Ebay's Giant Price Hike
Jan 26, 2010 02:36 PM
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This is ridiculous EBay is doing everything they can to kill the large and small sellers. This would mean a big increase in fees for my store that would basically wipe out our top rated seller discount. I hate the way they worded it. Its a bunch of BS!!! They hope we are all stupid!
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