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fyi: Selling Auction Price..fvf Comparative Chart
Jan 26, 2010 02:43 PM
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fyi: Selling Auction Price..fvf Comparative Chart

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fyi: Selling Auction Price..fvf Comparative Chart
Jan 26, 2010 02:43 PM
tip of the hat to Geoff ...Exclusively Red Tag ___ blu
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Re: fyi: Selling Auction Price..fvf Comparative Chart
Jan 26, 2010 02:45 PM
Just astounding. Really.
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Re: fyi: Selling Auction Price..fvf Comparative Chart
Jan 26, 2010 02:46 PM
Thanks for the chart, it is very clear. There isn't enough room in my nose for all the fees to come out of anymore, that was a couple years ago for just paying through the nose, this pretty much splits a vein.
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Re: fyi: Selling Auction Price..fvf Comparative Chart
Jan 26, 2010 02:50 PM
If I was ebay, I would be embarassed at this chart. But then again, if I was ebay, I wouldn't pull such a blatent money-grabbing stunt to throw out auction sellers.


'You call some place paradise - kiss it goodbye' - Eagles, The Last Resort

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Re: fyi: Selling Auction Price..fvf Comparative Chart
Jan 26, 2010 02:56 PM
pretty startling ___ blu
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Re: fyi: Selling Auction Price..fvf Comparative Chart
Jan 26, 2010 02:59 PM
Please note that there are now two rate card options available for auction sellers. The Standard Auction-Style rate card offers Free insertion fees for auctions starting under $1 (up to 100 per month), but higher final value fees than the fees for auction sellers with a store. If you are an auction seller, you may be better off with the auction-style fees associated with a Basic Store. In addition, you will receive up to 12 free supersized pictures per listing with the Basic Store level. Check out the Fee Illustrator to see which level is best for you:

http://pages.ebay.com/sellerinformation/news/FeeIllustrator2010.html
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Re: fyi: Selling Auction Price..fvf Comparative Chart
Jan 26, 2010 03:02 PM
This pretty much not only eats my razor thin profit margin but actually puts me in the hole...AND I already have store. I cannot believe something like this could be implemented at one of the worst economic climates we have faced. Just dumbfounded! I will certainly have to rethink my presence here beginning April1.
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Re: fyi: Selling Auction Price..fvf Comparative Chart
Jan 26, 2010 03:05 PM
Please note that there are now two rate card options available for auction sellers. The Standard Auction-Style rate card offers Free insertion fees for auctions starting under $1 (up to 100 per month), but higher final value fees than the fees for auction sellers with a store. If you are an auction seller, you may be better off with the auction-style fees associated with a Basic Store. In addition, you will receive up to 12 free supersized pictures per listing with the Basic Store level. Check out the Fee Illustrator to see which level is best for you:

http://pages.ebay.com/sellerinformation/news/FeeIllustrator2010.html


The under $ 1.00 option is unworkable, far too many items end on ebay with only one bid and sellers will lose far more then just the fees.

I've tried the 99-cent listings for a time and was losing so much money had to stop. If ebay could truly deliver enough traffic to generate multiple bids on all of those items perhaps it would work, but for most it is a waste of money.

Frankly ebay shouldn't have been raising fees in a depressed economy, but leave it to ebay to do so.
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Re: fyi: Selling Auction Price..fvf Comparative Chart
Jan 26, 2010 03:08 PM
Please note that there are now two rate card options available for auction sellers. The Standard Auction-Style rate card offers Free insertion fees for auctions starting under $1 (up to 100 per month), but higher final value fees than the fees for auction sellers with a store. If you are an auction seller, you may be better off with the auction-style fees associated with a Basic Store. In addition, you will receive up to 12 free supersized pictures per listing with the Basic Store level. Check out the Fee Illustrator to see which level is best for you:

http://pages.ebay.com/sellerinformation/news/FeeIllustrator2010.html


jstark is absolutely correct; there's a 2nd auction style FVF rate card for store subscribers. It is still an FVF increase, but not nearly as dramatic as the non-store subscriber rates:


-Geoff


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Re: fyi: Selling Auction Price..fvf Comparative Chart
Jan 26, 2010 03:12 PM
Geoff... many thanks for the 2 charts.... shines a light ___ blu
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Re: fyi: Selling Auction Price..fvf Comparative Chart
Jan 26, 2010 03:23 PM
The response here form the ebay staff is fairly unbelievable.

So it is basically pay ebay every month for an ebay store and pay not so increased fees? Oh and offer me something I do not want (but you think is valuable) 12 free supersized pictures per listing - So again, charge me every month so I can pay more than I do now and I get nothing of any value in return.

Wow, it appears they just do not care, they are on their own plan with their own story about how it is good, even if the facts/number show it is not good for their sellers (the people who pay them). I think is it time for me to sell their stock, I have never wanted to be invested in a company where there policies are against their paying customers, even if they feel it will make them more money. In the end it always seems to come back to bite those companies (as it should).
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Re: fyi: Selling Auction Price..fvf Comparative Chart
Jan 26, 2010 03:41 PM
Absolute insanity.

This country is in the middle of the worst economic times in decades, eyeballs have been leaving eBay by the droves and what do the wizz kids come up with to fix the hemorrhaging?

Wait for it...

FEE INCREASES.

Don't forget that they are yet again changing the game further confusing both buyers and sellers to the point of just driving more away from both ends of the user spectrum.

Great move guys. I need to go puke now.


Mike N

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Re: fyi: Selling Auction Price..fvf Comparative Chart
Jan 26, 2010 03:47 PM
jstark, it would be very helpful to the sellers if you would review the charts prepared by Geoff, and posted on the PS Board, and respond to them directly. All the words in the world lack the clarity of communication that those charts offer both eBay and its sellers.
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Jan 26, 2010 04:07 PM
Doesn't matter how you look at it ebay is just screwing sellers with these massive FVF increases. I don't care if they made all listing fees free it would still be outrageous to double the FVF fees. Oh and if you want lower FVFs you have to buy a lame Store for $15 or more a month. That really makes a lot of sense. Any way you look at it ebay is just kicking most smaller sellers to the curb.
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Re: fyi: Selling Auction Price..fvf Comparative Chart
Jan 26, 2010 04:39 PM
It's pretty obvious by the canned responses from the pinks that they just consider it all "noise" that will die down in a couple weeks and things will get back to normal.


•-:¦:-•Judy•-:¦:-•

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Re: fyi: Selling Auction Price..fvf Comparative Chart
Jan 26, 2010 04:44 PM
AWESOME TABLE OF FVF Changes - Do they think people are too stupid to figure this out? Time to bail on the Bay.
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Re: fyi: Selling Auction Price..fvf Comparative Chart
Jan 26, 2010 04:46 PM
Yah right. I am going to list a $600.00 collectable doll at 99cents. In fact one of my items just auctioned for 99cents. I can afford that about once a year!

So sick of this! My store will be closing at the end of March and I've been a seller since 2001
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Re: fyi: Selling Auction Price..fvf Comparative Chart
Jan 26, 2010 04:47 PM
"they just consider it all "noise" that will die down in a couple weeks and things will get back to normal."

You are quite correct.

That is what happened in 2000, and 2001, and 2002, and 2003, and 2004, and 2005 (twice that year), and 2006, and 2007, and 2008 (twice that year), and 2009.

There is no reason to believe things will be different this year or next..

With US$50,000,000,000+ worth of "stuff" sold on eBay this year, some sellers will quit, some will survive and some will prosper.

And life does go on.
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Re: fyi: Selling Auction Price..fvf Comparative Chart
Jan 26, 2010 04:54 PM
Please note that there are now two rate card options available for auction sellers. The Standard Auction-Style rate card offers Free insertion fees for auctions starting under $1 (up to 100 per month), but higher final value fees than the fees for auction sellers with a store. If you are an auction seller, you may be better off with the auction-style fees associated with a Basic Store. In addition, you will receive up to 12 free supersized pictures per listing with the Basic Store level. Check out the Fee Illustrator to see which level is best for you:

http://pages.ebay.com/sellerinformation/news/FeeIllustrator2010.html


The under $1.00 option is unworkable for me... and I think for most sellers.
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Re: fyi: Selling Auction Price..fvf Comparative Chart
Jan 26, 2010 04:55 PM
Thanks for the amazing charts!

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Jan 26, 2010 05:03 PM
We cannot afford to start auctions at under $1 because there are not enough buyers to find items and bid. We do not make money by selling good antiques and collectibles for $1. And that is what can happen.
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Re: fyi: Selling Auction Price..fvf Comparative Chart
Jan 27, 2010 09:47 AM
I guess since I only have a 9th grade education ( actually cheated two years to get that far) Ebay thinks I can't do the math. I am stuck as I live in an area that is quite remote from civilization (30 miles to the nearest town of 2700) so I have to sell my stuff online and without the small income from ebay I just cannot pay the bills. I am going to try to keep the basic store with only a dozen or so higher end items and start as many auctions as possible at .99 cents with triple or more shipping. I am moving all of my store inventory (usually from 500 - 1000 items ) to Bonanzle.com and as many other sites as I can and hope that with three or four stores on those sites I can pay the bills. Thanks ebay I have been here for over 12 years now. I have quit or threatened to quit many times but I think this might just be the straw that makes me get serious in hunting another venue.
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Re: fyi: Selling Auction Price..fvf Comparative Chart
Jan 27, 2010 10:17 AM
Everyone here has to do their own calculation...

Everyone will be affected differently.

And be careful as many of the new numbers are not immediately obvious.

Pull out your calculator... and work the numbers.

Low priced items will be influenced the most...

The true effect of this fee adjustment will not be measured until the day SIS (Stores in Search) takes over...

And this time there can be no turning back... SIS is here to stay... for without SIS this fee adjustment makes no sense...
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Re: fyi: Selling Auction Price..fvf Comparative Chart
Jan 27, 2010 10:25 AM
True...Cumos... With Stores in Search, and hopefully better sell through rates, these changes could The ..but what if... is the question ___ blu
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