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fyi: Selling Auction Price..fvf Comparative Chart
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fyi: Selling Auction Price..fvf Comparative Chart
Jan 26, 2010 02:43 PM
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tip of the hat to Geoff ...Exclusively Red Tag
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(38 of 38)
Re: fyi: Selling Auction Price..fvf Comparative Chart
Jan 27, 2010 03:01 PM
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(37 of 38)
Re: fyi: Selling Auction Price..fvf Comparative Chart
Jan 27, 2010 02:47 PM
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The under $ 1.00 option is unworkable, far too many items end on ebay with only one bid and sellers will lose far more then just the fees. I've tried the 99-cent listings for a time and was losing so much money had to stop. If ebay could truly deliver enough traffic to generate multiple bids on all of those items perhaps it would work, but for most it is a waste of money. Frankly ebay shouldn't have been raising fees in a depressed economy, but leave it to ebay to do so.[/quote] Thank you..for book sellers, especially auction style the .99 auctions are a big money loser. Because Ebay has moved away from auction style and moved to amazon.com style 'buy it now' style there are fewer and fewer people looking for that deal on ebay. Sellers make money from two people having a bidding war. Ebay makes money by listing fees and grabbing a higher % of what does sell. International sales are also a problem as first class mail provides no proof of mailing and international buyers can claim through paypal that they never got the books. I make money through the international markets. Why is ebay hurting their best sellers?
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Re: fyi: Selling Auction Price..fvf Comparative Chart
Jan 27, 2010 02:41 PM
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gjbon wrote: The real question few sellers are asking on discussion boards and eBay is not addressing is: Will better exposure result in more sales by sellers? i think the real question that is going to affect everyone is whether ebay's servers will be able to handle the millions upon millions of additional listings to core from stores. we all know that they use rolling blackouts on the servers now to handle the load, what happens to the servers when core listings double or triple? how good is the increased exposure gonna be for you then when the site has crashed?  As it stands now, it takes too long to run a search based on their BEST MATCH algorithm as it is. Once all the store items are added into the mix, then what? It takes a minute to jump between pages as it is and I have the fastest internet connection cable provides. Imagine the customers lost because they can only get a dial-up connection based on where they live. Are they really going to wait to make a purchase? I doubt it.
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Re: fyi: Selling Auction Price..fvf Comparative Chart
Jan 27, 2010 02:34 PM
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gjbon wrote: Any seller who is a serious ebay seller will not care about the "Free pictures" because we use our own image host and just use HTML in the auction body to show our pictures off, so that really is NOT an incentive to use Ebay. oh, cobbie, you haven't seen the next change coming for the summer. ebay will put a stop to html being used in listings and you will have to use cookie cutter seller pages supplied by ebay to conform to their new format that is why they are giving the 12 free pics now, to get you ready   That definitely won't work, especialy for the sellers like myself who sometimes have up to 100 pictures per lot. Also how about the sellers that post links to 400-600 pictures ? Hmmmmmm
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(34 of 38)
Re: fyi: Selling Auction Price..fvf Comparative Chart
Jan 27, 2010 02:28 PM
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The new proposed upcoming fees are gouging and ridiculous,with or without a Store.
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Re: fyi: Selling Auction Price..fvf Comparative Chart
Jan 27, 2010 02:23 PM
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gjbon wrote: Any seller who is a serious ebay seller will not care about the "Free pictures" because we use our own image host and just use HTML in the auction body to show our pictures off, so that really is NOT an incentive to use Ebay. oh, cobbie, you haven't seen the next change coming for the summer. ebay will put a stop to html being used in listings and you will have to use cookie cutter seller pages supplied by ebay to conform to their new format that is why they are giving the 12 free pics now, to get you ready   So true. Many sellers are now listing with Auctiva, Vendio, Inkfrog, etc and paying about $10.00 a month. eBay want to lay their grubby hands on that ten bucks. Just watch them.
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(32 of 38)
Re: fyi: Selling Auction Price..fvf Comparative Chart
Jan 27, 2010 02:22 PM
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oops, sorry 
cobbie, you don't really see that previous post  I am absolutely correct 97% of the time. Who cares about the other 4% ?
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(31 of 38)
Re: fyi: Selling Auction Price..fvf Comparative Chart
Jan 27, 2010 02:15 PM
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Shhhh - you are going to spoil the surprise
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Re: fyi: Selling Auction Price..fvf Comparative Chart
Jan 27, 2010 02:09 PM
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pierrelebel wrote: "hopefully better sell through rates" Sellers thinking there will be much more business once listings are seen on core instead of store should really think again. The real question few sellers are asking on discussion boards and eBay is not addressing is: Will better exposure result in more sales by sellers? Will more buyers come to eBay because sellers fees have changed? NO Will more buyers come to eBay because more items are available on the core site? NO Will those buyers on eBay buy more and spend more because more listings are available on the core site? I do not know but, quite frankly, I expect the answer is NO. Gains (if any) will be made at the expense of sellers either leaving eBay or reducing their listings. The amount of money buyers have to spend does not increase when eBay changes sellers fees or listing policies.  Exactly, monsieur. C'est la nouveau vie sur ebay! Ok, my french is rusty. But your point is made well--who says that buyers are going to spend more money just because items are in core? Hello! I think not.
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(29 of 38)
Re: fyi: Selling Auction Price..fvf Comparative Chart
Jan 27, 2010 02:02 PM
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Any seller who is a serious ebay seller will not care about the "Free pictures" because we use our own image host and just use HTML in the auction body to show our pictures off, so that really is NOT an incentive to use Ebay.
oh, cobbie, you haven't seen the next change coming for the summer. ebay will put a stop to html being used in listings and you will have to use cookie cutter seller pages supplied by ebay to conform to their new format
that is why they are giving the 12 free pics now, to get you ready  I am absolutely correct 97% of the time. Who cares about the other 4% ?
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(28 of 38)
Re: fyi: Selling Auction Price..fvf Comparative Chart
Jan 27, 2010 02:00 PM
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There is another chart for media sellers with %18 FVF
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Re: fyi: Selling Auction Price..fvf Comparative Chart
Jan 27, 2010 01:57 PM
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jstark@ebay.com wrote: Please note that there are now two rate card options available for auction sellers. The Standard Auction-Style rate card offers Free insertion fees for auctions starting under $1 (up to 100 per month), but higher final value fees than the fees for auction sellers with a store. If you are an auction seller, you may be better off with the auction-style fees associated with a Basic Store. In addition, you will receive up to 12 free supersized pictures per listing with the Basic Store level. Check out the Fee Illustrator to see which level is best for you: http://pages.ebay.com/sellerinformation/news/FeeIllustrator2010.html Any seller who is a serious ebay seller will not care about the "Free pictures" because we use our own image host and just use HTML in the auction body to show our pictures off, so that really is NOT an incentive to use Ebay. When it comes to the bottom line, the fees have still increased, unless you're selling $2500+ items.
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Re: fyi: Selling Auction Price..fvf Comparative Chart
Jan 27, 2010 01:54 PM
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The real question few sellers are asking on discussion boards and eBay is not addressing is: Will better exposure result in more sales by sellers?
i think the real question that is going to affect everyone is whether ebay's servers will be able to handle the millions upon millions of additional listings to core from stores.
we all know that they use rolling blackouts on the servers now to handle the load, what happens to the servers when core listings double or triple?
how good is the increased exposure gonna be for you then when the site has crashed? I am absolutely correct 97% of the time. Who cares about the other 4% ?
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Re: fyi: Selling Auction Price..fvf Comparative Chart
Jan 27, 2010 01:27 PM
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Our listings are Buy it Now due to the type of items we have. We're already paying more than the FVFs noted for the selling price - actually more than the 'new' ones noted. Do you have a chart of changes for those?
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Re: fyi: Selling Auction Price..fvf Comparative Chart
Jan 27, 2010 12:27 PM
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"hopefully better sell through rates" Sellers thinking there will be much more business once listings are seen on core instead of store should really think again. The real question few sellers are asking on discussion boards and eBay is not addressing is: Will better exposure result in more sales by sellers? Will more buyers come to eBay because sellers fees have changed? NO Will more buyers come to eBay because more items are available on the core site? NO Will those buyers on eBay buy more and spend more because more listings are available on the core site? I do not know but, quite frankly, I expect the answer is NO. Gains (if any) will be made at the expense of sellers either leaving eBay or reducing their listings. The amount of money buyers have to spend does not increase when eBay changes sellers fees or listing policies.
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Re: fyi: Selling Auction Price..fvf Comparative Chart
Jan 27, 2010 10:25 AM
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True...Cumos...
With Stores in Search, and hopefully better sell through rates, these changes could
The ..but what if... is the question
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Re: fyi: Selling Auction Price..fvf Comparative Chart
Jan 27, 2010 10:17 AM
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Everyone here has to do their own calculation... Everyone will be affected differently. And be careful as many of the new numbers are not immediately obvious. Pull out your calculator... and work the numbers. Low priced items will be influenced the most... The true effect of this fee adjustment will not be measured until the day SIS (Stores in Search) takes over... And this time there can be no turning back... SIS is here to stay... for without SIS this fee adjustment makes no sense...
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Re: fyi: Selling Auction Price..fvf Comparative Chart
Jan 27, 2010 09:47 AM
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I guess since I only have a 9th grade education ( actually cheated two years to get that far) Ebay thinks I can't do the math. I am stuck as I live in an area that is quite remote from civilization (30 miles to the nearest town of 2700) so I have to sell my stuff online and without the small income from ebay I just cannot pay the bills. I am going to try to keep the basic store with only a dozen or so higher end items and start as many auctions as possible at .99 cents with triple or more shipping. I am moving all of my store inventory (usually from 500 - 1000 items ) to Bonanzle.com and as many other sites as I can and hope that with three or four stores on those sites I can pay the bills. Thanks ebay I have been here for over 12 years now. I have quit or threatened to quit many times but I think this might just be the straw that makes me get serious in hunting another venue.
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Re: fyi: Selling Auction Price..fvf Comparative Chart
Jan 26, 2010 05:03 PM
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We cannot afford to start auctions at under $1 because there are not enough buyers to find items and bid. We do not make money by selling good antiques and collectibles for $1. And that is what can happen.
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Re: fyi: Selling Auction Price..fvf Comparative Chart
Jan 26, 2010 04:55 PM
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Thanks for the amazing charts! --------
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Re: fyi: Selling Auction Price..fvf Comparative Chart
Jan 26, 2010 04:54 PM
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jstark@ebay.com wrote: Please note that there are now two rate card options available for auction sellers. The Standard Auction-Style rate card offers Free insertion fees for auctions starting under $1 (up to 100 per month), but higher final value fees than the fees for auction sellers with a store. If you are an auction seller, you may be better off with the auction-style fees associated with a Basic Store. In addition, you will receive up to 12 free supersized pictures per listing with the Basic Store level. Check out the Fee Illustrator to see which level is best for you: http://pages.ebay.com/sellerinformation/news/FeeIllustrator2010.html The under $1.00 option is unworkable for me... and I think for most sellers.
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Re: fyi: Selling Auction Price..fvf Comparative Chart
Jan 26, 2010 04:47 PM
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"they just consider it all "noise" that will die down in a couple weeks and things will get back to normal." You are quite correct. That is what happened in 2000, and 2001, and 2002, and 2003, and 2004, and 2005 (twice that year), and 2006, and 2007, and 2008 (twice that year), and 2009. There is no reason to believe things will be different this year or next.. With US$50,000,000,000+ worth of "stuff" sold on eBay this year, some sellers will quit, some will survive and some will prosper. And life does go on.
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Re: fyi: Selling Auction Price..fvf Comparative Chart
Jan 26, 2010 04:46 PM
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Yah right. I am going to list a $600.00 collectable doll at 99cents. In fact one of my items just auctioned for 99cents. I can afford that about once a year! So sick of this! My store will be closing at the end of March and I've been a seller since 2001
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Re: fyi: Selling Auction Price..fvf Comparative Chart
Jan 26, 2010 04:44 PM
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AWESOME TABLE OF FVF Changes - Do they think people are too stupid to figure this out? Time to bail on the Bay.
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