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FVF on Shipping Charges?
Mar 15, 2011 08:55 AM
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Quite frankly, I do not think that this is appropriate, but simply a way for ebay to boost their fees. It will discourage me from selling anything that is heavy, and will likely discourage me from selling anything internationally. There are sellers that charge inappropriately for shipping to avoid fees, but the vast majority of sellers charge very close to actual charges. The honest sellers should not be punished for the actions of the dishonest sellers. Sue
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Re: FVF on Shipping Charges?
Mar 15, 2011 09:00 AM
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It is absolutely preposterous that eBay is doing this. The shipping amount that I charge is what it costs me to do it. I have to pay that money to FedEx, I'm not "making it". And now I have to pay eBay a stipend on the shipping charges? This is completely ridiculous. How can a company be as UNBELIEVABLY greedy as eBay? No wonder more and more people hate this site. Enjoy your monopoly eBay. You're lucky that you have it.
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Re: FVF on Shipping Charges?
Mar 15, 2011 09:00 AM
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I agree, I offer free shipping for 80% of my items but for international to cover me and protect high priced items I charge for express international because that's the only shipping that is tracked and they can't come back and say they never got their items...The final value fee should be only on the excess after a shipping label is printed for those who overcharge 1.99 or higher per item...not for the ones that are trying to give free shipping and lower charges to help sell more....ebay should consider those who price shipping for every item and not the actual weight of the package...Something to consider ebay for your better and more honest sellers !!!
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Re: FVF on Shipping Charges?
Mar 15, 2011 09:03 AM
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I agree with this post. As a seller I always charge the buyer exact postage. It is totally inappropriate to extend a FVF onto shipping charges. I will not definitely curtail my selling. Nine or 10% on items is enough!!! Ebay should not be making money on postage...this is not right!!!!
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Re: FVF on Shipping Charges?
Mar 15, 2011 09:05 AM
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I agree that charging a FVF on shipping is outrageous. It means that I will not be able to offer Priority Shipping but will now offer only Parcel Post, and this will affect the customer service. I will no longer sell anything that is heavy. I have always charged very reasonable fees for shipping but I won't be able to charge no handling fee now- so that it costs me money to ship!! Whoever decided upon this has not thought it through properly! Might have to look into other Ebay type sites as an alternative.
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Re: FVF on Shipping Charges?
Mar 15, 2011 09:08 AM
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amazing_attic_find.. wrote: I agree that charging a FVF on shipping is outrageous. It means that I will not be able to offer Priority Shipping but will now offer only Parcel Post, and this will affect the customer service. I will no longer sell anything that is heavy. I have always charged very reasonable fees for shipping but I won't be able to charge no handling fee now- so that it costs me money to ship!! Whoever decided upon this has not thought it through properly! Might have to look into other Ebay type sites as an alternative. 
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Re: FVF on Shipping Charges?
Mar 15, 2011 09:08 AM
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You MUST be kidding. Shipping rates have already increased enough & continue to go up with gas prices. It also cost me a gallon of gas to drive to the shipping center as well. And now you want me to pay FVF on shipping as well? Are you NUTS? I guess it is time to turn to other sites to sell my stuff. Craigslist is FREE - free listing - no charge when selling! eBay has overstepped the boundaries with this one! It is bad enough you upped your % you charge when stuff sells.
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Re: FVF on Shipping Charges?
Mar 15, 2011 09:09 AM
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This is of course feebays greed driving the changes and has nothing to do with lowering shipping charges. They are trying to close the loop hole where sellers offset the price of an item by raising shipping fees so they can avoid the final value hit a little bit. Now that feebay is going to take some of the shipping money we will only see shipping charges go up and not down since I will be clearly informing buyers that I have to pass on feebays fees to them. It's within my right to charge for boxes, tape, labels, foam, bubblewrap and my time and gas to bring the items to the post office and if buyers dont like the s/h cost they are free to buy from someone else. Thanks to feebay I have been selling more on craigslist and making a lot more money and keeping a lot more of it too.
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Re: FVF on Shipping Charges?
Mar 15, 2011 09:10 AM
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OK, sellers, we need to protest this absurd, and thoroughly greedy new fee by ebay. Does anyone know other auction sites where sellers are treated more fairly? I agree that the only fees ebay should charge are those OVER actual shipping. The base shipping charges are not profit for a seller, that is money simply transferred to the shipping company. I knew ebay was greedy before in their astronomical fees, between them and Paypal, but this is too much. If anyone has a suggestion for a better auction site, please post. I am ready to leave ebay.
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Re: FVF on Shipping Charges?
Mar 15, 2011 09:11 AM
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I am curious, is the reason for a surcharge on shipping due to federal tax laws or other federal changes? Or is it due to eBay trying to discourage the excessive shipping amounts that some sellers still charge? If I understand this, eBay will be charging on the FINAL price, so that will include the item charge, the shipping charge, and if any, the handling charge. We are strongly encouraged to keep our shipping fees as realistic as possible. As a seller, I see this as another reason to raise my shipping fees, or, alternatively, the cost of my item to include all of the extra fees, and keep it listed as "free shipping". Either way, with our suppliers and shippers raising their prices, and now eBay add surcharges to all of those fees, we are going to have to include even more calculations to ensure we break even.
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Re: FVF on Shipping Charges?
Mar 15, 2011 09:12 AM
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IT'S TIME FOR ME TO RETHINK SELLING ON EBAY!!!
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Re: FVF on Shipping Charges?
Mar 15, 2011 09:12 AM
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so now, posting HEAVY LARGER Dimensional rate items will be levied a Tax /fee by ebay on the resulting charges. I'll be removing all LARGE FRAMES before june. Maybe it's time to end International shipping too (that's always a High cost item)

--Remember the days when Ebay was phun?
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Re: FVF on Shipping Charges?
Mar 15, 2011 09:12 AM
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I want to know how to get the message across to ebay that this change makes no sense. If the stated purpose of the change is to get sellers to "lower" their shipping cost, the only way to do that is for ebay to provide sellers with reduced FVF for high ratings for low shipping cost. Or make this additional FVF only for the sellers who, by their ratings, are overcharging for shipping. If the "real" purpose of this change is just for ebay to make more money, then sellers will have to raise their shipping rates to cover the portion that ebay now wants to have. I will definitely be telling my customers that the raised rates are to provide ebay with their "pound of flesh". I think it is time to get a non-ebay store ready to go. If anyone else has any thoughts on how to pressure ebay out of this move, I'd really like to hear it and I will definitely help!
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Re: FVF on Shipping Charges?
Mar 15, 2011 09:13 AM
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This is another eBay stunt to collect more money !! What about shipping overseas? It cost almost 30/40 dollars!!!! I will loose atleast 20 dollars per auction on listing fees So ridiculous!!!!! Who ever came up with this adjustment has no clue about sales. Now we have to sell the item at a higher price to get the same profit!
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Re: FVF on Shipping Charges?
Mar 15, 2011 09:13 AM
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just like our government e-bay is now working against itself. as usual something great (e-bay) is being turned into something i will no longer want to deal with because of greed. e-bay has no right to a percentage of the shipping sellers charge. shipping is a service provide by the seller not e-bay which makes it illegal in my veiw to charge a fee on a service they do not proivide. i will be looking at other auction sites in the future.
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Re: FVF on Shipping Charges?
Mar 15, 2011 09:14 AM
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All Ebay is doing is to encourage the "commercial Sellers" to increase their shipping fees to make up for the increased FVF. Instead of policing the flagrant foul offenders all they are doing is penalizing the honest sellers. Greed will mean more of us will seek other venues to sell on. Ebay has become just like Park and Swap. It used to be hundreds of individuals but now it is just one big commercial marketplace and the individual seller is becoming extinct.
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Re: FVF on Shipping Charges?
Mar 15, 2011 09:14 AM
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Screw, screw and screw the seller ... eBays standard operating policy! I know there are peolpe who over price shipping but eBay is punishing ALL of us instead of taking action on those abuseing the system. Why, probably because they will make more money!!! Thise of us who sell large heavy items like car parts are going to get hit hard. Im tired of eBays greed. Why dont we all just move to another auction site! Any one know of another good site? I bet eBay deletes this message suggesing we use another site. Lets see if they are against freedom of speech.
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Re: FVF on Shipping Charges?
Mar 15, 2011 09:15 AM
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Question: How can the final value fee be tied to shipping, when shipping is legally not part of the value of the item or the sale? Shipping is a cost associated with the item that has nothing to do with the items value, but is the cost that the buyer must bear to receive the item and the "value" they purchased. Thus the final value fee is now illegal as it is a misleading fee. The obvious goal of the additional fee is not to keep shipping costs low but to increase ebay profits. By lowering overall fees by 1 to 2% but then adding them to a component of the transaction that is not in any way related to value, but ranges well over 1 to 2% of the total transaction price, ebay has substantially increased its fees. Additionally, I agree with all previous posts stating that this will increase shipping costs becasue sellers will have to charge more to ensure that shipping costs are fully paid by buyer, ironically also increasing ebays revenues.
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Re: FVF on Shipping Charges?
Mar 15, 2011 09:17 AM
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Sadly, I don't see eBay changing this for awhile; until the SEE they have lost a serious % of business to other sites. This is a reflection on a poor understanding by management of the ebay business mode. Talk about killing a cash cow..corporate greed for the ever important quarterly profits..who cares that they are killing business for many many future quarters, and years, to come. l whatfunisthis wrote: I want to know how to get the message across to ebay that this change makes no sense. If the stated purpose of the change is to get sellers to "lower" their shipping cost, the only way to do that is for ebay to provide sellers with reduced FVF for high ratings for low shipping cost. Or make this additional FVF only for the sellers who, by their ratings, are overcharging for shipping. If the "real" purpose of this change is just for ebay to make more money, then sellers will have to raise their shipping rates to cover the portion that ebay now wants to have. I will definitely be telling my customers that the raised rates are to provide ebay with their "pound of flesh". I think it is time to get a non-ebay store ready to go. If anyone else has any thoughts on how to pressure ebay out of this move, I'd really like to hear it and I will definitely help! 
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Re: FVF on Shipping Charges?
Mar 15, 2011 09:17 AM
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lgriese wrote: The base shipping charges are not profit for a seller, that is money simply transferred to the shipping company. I knew ebay was greedy before in their astronomical fees,.  They are now in money grab mode after a poor christmas season. But to charge a seller on money the seller pays out to a shipping company, seems way out-of-line and in poor taste. Cut your nose off in spite of your face. ??? I think larger/heavier items will drop on ebay. Nice move there for making money, ebay.

--Remember the days when Ebay was phun?
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Re: FVF on Shipping Charges?
Mar 15, 2011 09:17 AM
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Charging an FVF on shipping is absolutely preposterous!!!!!!! I sell heavy items that must be shipped freight and generally cost between $200-300 to ship. We charge the actual cost to ship our items. Now I am going to have to raise my shipping rates to cover this ridiculous fee. You are only making it worse for buyers. This is just another way for ebay to take more, with the excuse that the buyer will benefit. Give me a break ebay! Greed has no limits
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Re: FVF on Shipping Charges?
Mar 15, 2011 09:18 AM
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Whenever Ebay raises their selling rates they explain it as if they are doing me some kind of favor. This is very insulting to their customers, the sellers. They must think most Ebay sellers are stupid. I pray for the day when I will no longer need to use Ebay. I used to like this company, but since their elimination of all payment methods except Paypal and then the last huge rate increase I fell like I am being milked for every penny they can get. I definitely feel like I am not treated well as a seller, and I hope that Ebay will someday pay for their rapacious behavior in the loss of business and customers. Once again, I will celebrate the day I not longer have to list on Ebay. Ebay, are you listening?
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Re: FVF on Shipping Charges?
Mar 15, 2011 09:19 AM
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I already charge ONLY what I expect to be charged by the post office, who's fees have gone UP, and many times I end up losing money on shipping! Now, I am paying fees for this "priviledge"? eBay has gone way too far this time. Looking elsewhere.
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Re: FVF on Shipping Charges?
Mar 15, 2011 09:19 AM
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EBAY!! This is highway robbery. Our shipping costs have to do with weight not value. We make nothing off of it. If someone sells something heavy the shipping value can equal the price of the product, making the fee double!! It is a devious way for ebay to increase profit. SHAME ON YOU!! I hope someone creates an alternative auction system and knocks your socks off.
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