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Charging fee shipping handling cost is illegal-Class action law suit needed

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Charging fee shipping handling cost is illegal-Class action law suit needed
Aug 12, 2011 09:22 PM
This new Fee For Shipping Policy must Be separated from actual shipping cost

and the Handling cost must be a separate policy

that eBay has no right to charge me a fee ...for my packaging

Materials label printing and trips to the post office /bubble-wrap / packaging tape / shrink wrap and associated handling labor $$

it's down right illegal ..if my item involves a pallet or a trucking company
a car hauler or overnight delivery who decides unknow freight fee's?

how can eBay apply a fee to something that has nothing to do with eBay whatsoever ?

and who decides the fees on shipping anyway ? what percent ?
all i see on my account is a shipping fee ...what part is shipping what part is handling ...

the federal tax laws only tax the item price .in normal business .selling practices ....shipping is not taxed

.it is illegal to charge a fee for a fee

I'm mad This is outrageous

and invite everyone to join with me and Fight for our RIGHTS

were paying Fee's on Fee's

IF they must charge a shipping fee charge ...to keep people from inflating there shipping and lowering there item price to avoid high final value fees ....why wait 15 years to change this policy????

they must separate the handling fee as a separate non-fee cost
with full disclosure actual of shipping cost and separate disclosure of handling cost it's up to the buyer if he wants to pay the Handling cost
not ebay's right to charge me a fee for handling


I feel I'm being charged a fee for my own handling cost and labor
which is illegal

please join in the effort to reverse this illegal Policy thrust upon us by eBay ,,,,,no other auction sites have this policy

whats next will we have to pay a fee for each word in a listing

this is ridiculous n and illegal

we need a Class Action Law suit Immediately

I guess the only alternative to this is to charge a freight charge to buyers not negotiable through eBay to be billed separately before sale through email If buyers don't like It i wll cancel there order

if this is what it comes down too

I will Bill my buyers separately from eBay's shipping services and policy's
Stating a handeling fee will be billed before delivery

Please everyone chime in on this and lets Fight for our Rights
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Charging fee shipping handling cost is illegal-Class action law suit needed

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Charging fee shipping handling cost is illegal-Class action law suit needed
Aug 12, 2011 09:22 PM
This new Fee For Shipping Policy must Be separated from actual shipping cost

and the Handling cost must be a separate policy

that eBay has no right to charge me a fee ...for my packaging

Materials label printing and trips to the post office /bubble-wrap / packaging tape / shrink wrap and associated handling labor $$

it's down right illegal ..if my item involves a pallet or a trucking company
a car hauler or overnight delivery who decides unknow freight fee's?

how can eBay apply a fee to something that has nothing to do with eBay whatsoever ?

and who decides the fees on shipping anyway ? what percent ?
all i see on my account is a shipping fee ...what part is shipping what part is handling ...

the federal tax laws only tax the item price .in normal business .selling practices ....shipping is not taxed

.it is illegal to charge a fee for a fee

I'm mad This is outrageous

and invite everyone to join with me and Fight for our RIGHTS

were paying Fee's on Fee's

IF they must charge a shipping fee charge ...to keep people from inflating there shipping and lowering there item price to avoid high final value fees ....why wait 15 years to change this policy????

they must separate the handling fee as a separate non-fee cost
with full disclosure actual of shipping cost and separate disclosure of handling cost it's up to the buyer if he wants to pay the Handling cost
not ebay's right to charge me a fee for handling


I feel I'm being charged a fee for my own handling cost and labor
which is illegal

please join in the effort to reverse this illegal Policy thrust upon us by eBay ,,,,,no other auction sites have this policy

whats next will we have to pay a fee for each word in a listing

this is ridiculous n and illegal

we need a Class Action Law suit Immediately

I guess the only alternative to this is to charge a freight charge to buyers not negotiable through eBay to be billed separately before sale through email If buyers don't like It i wll cancel there order

if this is what it comes down too

I will Bill my buyers separately from eBay's shipping services and policy's
Stating a handeling fee will be billed before delivery

Please everyone chime in on this and lets Fight for our Rights
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by ironeater33 (376 ) View Listings
(1 of 19)
Re: Charging fee shipping handling cost is illegal-Class action law suit needed
Sep 2, 2011 10:03 AM

I AGREE!  PLEASE DOUBLE CHECK DAILY THE ACCOUNTING SIDE OF YOUR BUSINESS. FEES CAN SOMETIMES BE CHARGED TWICE AND PAYMENTS AND CREDITS CAN MYSTERIOUSLY DISAPPEAR.

(2 of 19)
Re: Charging fee shipping handling cost is illegal-Class action law suit needed
Sep 2, 2011 06:24 PM

I totally agree!!! Us small volumn Ebayers are really having it rough, especialy when  Paypal (Ebay) is reporting our sales to the IRS. We aren't charging taxes on our products, yet we are having to report the earnings.  Then they charge us a fee on the shipping cost. They are driving sellers away from Ebay and to other auction sites. The least they could do to be fair is to not charge the shipping fee to the sellers who use the shipping calculator to determine the shipping cost. We are not making any money on the shipping. I know some people do make money off the shipping cost. This is redicilious!!!!!!

(3 of 19)
Re: Charging fee shipping handling cost is illegal-Class action law suit needed
Sep 20, 2011 10:43 AM
I'm furious about it!! The post office doesn't charge tax? What gives them the right to charge me a tax on money I do not even get??
What I state for shipping is the exact amt. It takes to ship the item.
I'm losing money!!! It can't be legal for them to do this??
Someone please help!!
(4 of 19)
Re: Charging fee shipping handling cost is illegal-Class action law suit needed
Oct 8, 2011 06:34 AM

You might find help at one of these sites:

 

http://www.classaction.com/

 

http://www.classactionconnect.com/

(5 of 19)
Re: Charging fee shipping handling cost is illegal-Class action law suit needed
Oct 14, 2011 09:02 AM

where do I sign up for the action?  all sellers, large or small, will agree with it

(6 of 19)
Re: Charging fee shipping handling cost is illegal-Class action law suit needed
Oct 15, 2011 06:48 AM

I'm new, just started first of September.  I've already sold $300.00 plus.  I love eBay, the great customer service, the protection, the discounts on shipping.

 

But this fee on shipping just can't be right.  Yes, I can see how too many seller manipulated the system by charging less for the item and more for the shipping and this is eBay's response to this tactic.  But what I would like to see - rather than a class-action law suit - is for all of us who play the eBay game to come up with another solution to this issue.  Why take a combative attitude.  eBay had a legitimate issue and they implemented a quick-draw solution - not a well reasoned, appropritate solution.  We, as eBay sellers should not do the same and attack them with a law suit.  This will not accomplish anything in the end but to make our playing of the eBay game less profitable and really less enjoyable.

 

So I'm just a newbie and I don't understand the big picture in this whole area of internet marketing and especially auction style selling online.  It's too easy to scam and manipulate that's one thing I do know.  But surley there must a majority of honest and well intentioned people out there who just want to offer their products in an honest and transparent way and make a reasonable profit on what they sell.  What can we all do to make this happen - without confrontation and attack?  Surely there must be a better way.  Who can offer another way?

 

MakeLoveNotWar209

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Re: Charging fee shipping handling cost is illegal-Class action law suit needed
Oct 17, 2011 05:03 PM

I am new to Ebay as a seller. I have sold 530.47 by selling Missoni products. After figuring how much I paid Target for the products, I have made 164.63 on 14 items. After all the fees, granted, some are on items I still have listed and might sell, between Ebay and Paypal, I have made well under 100 dollars. I need help in how to sort my profit out from my fees and everything else! dang, I might starve to death if I make this my business! The IRS is going to get this info from ebay and I will be taxed? Is there really money to be made doing this?

(8 of 19)
Re: Charging fee shipping handling cost is illegal-Class action law suit needed
Oct 20, 2011 08:14 PM

I'm not sure I get what all the fuss is about on this.  When you do your taxes you simply deduct the shipping, packaging, & ebay fees and you don't pay tax on these expenses.  Keep good records on all transactions and it's all good (even if paypal sends the IRS finiancial data) your records show the details of each transaction.  As far as the fees charged by ebay for the item & shipping when free shipping is offered I can understand this but what is ebay to do to get people who manipulated the low item price and high shipping charge as stated in the other posts here.  Instead of a law suit why not try coming up with reasonable alternatives and present them to ebay.  Just a thought. 

 

 

(9 of 19)
Re: Charging fee shipping handling cost is illegal-Class action law suit needed
Nov 17, 2011 08:48 AM

Smokey_emt, I'm in the same boat...:) New to eBay...

After I calculated the results of sellings (with all these shipping fees)   I got losses for some transactions... :(

(10 of 19)
Re: Charging fee shipping handling cost is illegal-Class action law suit needed
Nov 28, 2011 08:02 PM

it's ebay's ball, you're playing in ebay's backyard and you want to make the rules?

 

Whining to the government is only going to bring more scrutiny down on ebay sellers. haven't you all ever seen a listing at 99 cents and 500$ shipping? this was being done all the time to avoid fees. management had to do something.

(11 of 19)
Re: Charging fee shipping handling cost is illegal-Class action law suit needed
Dec 22, 2011 07:42 PM

I totally agree with you're statement and most on here. I have been a long time ebayer. It seems the only ones not involved in this mess is the buyer. I'm not complaining. I am a buyer and seller. But, Most everything I have seen in the new ways of doing things on Ebay and Paypal are effecting the SELLER!

 

It is absurd that you have to pay Ebay a commission on S/H when they are not sitting in a room checking and double checking an order, package nicely and spend gas $ to go to the P.O and wait by the way in some P.O.s for over an hour of you're time and then the seller has a right to put a complaint in which freezes the money immediatly in Paypal. so even if you get no complaints from the buyer on Ebay, Please check paypal. because buyers have also learned how to hang onto you're money longer by waiting way past the deadline to pay, they receive and make a ridiculous reason why Paypal should freeze the funds. You have 10 days to respond, You don't receive an email and if you don't know to respond, guess what? the buyer keeps you're merchandise and steals you're hard working money back.

 

Ebay used to be a free trader. Now, the IRS is getting involved which I've been warned for years now. But, how can the IRS determine how much $ we paid for item originally,Our s/h costs, Ebay, Paypal fees.!!!

 this is the only way I can make any type of money I have found so far as I have many health issues. Now, the IRS will be watching me? And will they just assume what Ebay shows that I made that month is full profit? This COMPANY Ebay is going way down the tubes making money off items we have overcollected and need money in dire times. They picked the wrong time. The U.S, Ebay and all other corporations better be thinking of the little people or the litttle people will have to turn on them and come up with ways that we "little" people can survive in this money hungry world.

 

I have always been a good member of Ebay, but I am just one. I am just one trying to pay bills off with stuff I don't need or something that I have to purchase full price and hope I will make $5-$10 BEFORE ebay fees. Yes, that's right. I'm working my butt off for chump change while ebay shows I made 1200.00 this month. In reality it was more like $350!!!!

 

Sorry for this angry post! But, Oh!  I do hope you're listening Ebay!!!! keep an eye on you're stock, because it's plummeting.!!!!!  P.S EBAY- stop giving the warnings about fraud when we do listings. make us feel like criminals. Funny, tho. I noticed I was being repromanded last year for charging a small percentage for Shipping. I was constantly being warned by EBAY. now that they're taking fees from the shipping fees, EBAY---You now have no problem with my shipping costs!!!! Who you fooling? WE MADE YOU (EBAY) WHAT YOU ARE TODAY!! AND WE CAN BREAK FROM YOU TOMORROW!

(12 of 19)
Re: Charging fee shipping handling cost is illegal-Class action law suit needed
Dec 22, 2011 07:47 PM

and You @ yankee seats? You work for Ebay or something!!! lol. You feel so sorry for them. If you don't work for Ebay, you're on a cloud of Ebay gettin rich quick person with you're cloud too inflated, who hasn't been here for very!!!! Keep on takin up for them until they break you with something and come back and THEN whine.

(13 of 19)
Re: Charging fee shipping handling cost is illegal-Class action law suit needed
Apr 20, 2012 10:13 AM

I agree!! Can't understand why they charge me a fee on a fee for shipping and handling. I charge $1 over the shipping charge which helps a little for paypal fee and supplies...not much!

What really IRKS me is that if I sell something and didn't get really anything for it which is happening in this poor economy...let's say $5 and it's going to Australia and the postage is going to be high...well I guess you get my drift.

I'm gonna pay a fee on my shipping charge to Australia which means I'm in the red on the transaction.  Item cost me $3, made $5, minus listing fee, shipping fee, sellers fee, and then Paypal fee too....which is also a rip off, because Paypal charge more when it's a higher amount...I believe they are also charging me a paypal fee on the shipping charge if I'm not mistaken.  So because of ebays "fees", a lot of my stuff is just getting tossed out...why would I go through the trouble of listing it only to be losing money?

Sounds like our government is running ebay...more taxes, taxes, and taxes!  Oh yeah, now the government wants my hard earned money on ebay in taxes over $20,000.  Well I'll stay below that for sure.  On another note, how can the government charge me taxes on my stuff.  I've already paid taxes on my stuff when I bought it!

Geez!!

 

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Re: Charging fee shipping handling cost is illegal-Class action law suit needed
Apr 20, 2012 07:38 PM

This is just so wrong, especially for the small time sellers such as myself, like the previous poster stated I already pay taxes when I purchase my items, why is this all happening?  I don't make much as a whole, I too try to keep my shipping costs down and now I might just have to raise them so that I can at least break even on the shipping rates, Goodness Ebay, don't you take enough from us as it is?  Really now, you take a fee for listing, (big deal so you give us a free listing day every so often, but then you practally RAPE us on the shipping afterwards), I recently noticed YOU TAKE A FEE OFF OF THE SHIPPING TOO NOW???  What the heck business do you have taking from the SHIPPING now?  That has NOTHING to do with you!!!  THAT IS SUPPOSED TO HELP GET THE ITEM TO THE BUYER! Why must you poke into that as well, arent you making enough off of us?? Yes, it is illegal charging a fee for shipping and handling, I use that measly dollar or so to help me buy PACKAGING MATERIAL for the items I SELL on Ebay, not to mention all of the OTHER fees (on top of fees) that we are dealing with, like PAYPAL!

Come on Ebay, check this over, a lot of are pretty tee'ed off at what you're doing here.

Really, try looking out for us little guys who are struggling as it is in these hard times.

(15 of 19)
Re: Charging fee shipping handling cost is illegal-Class action law suit needed
Apr 20, 2012 08:11 PM

If someone was charging $500 shipping on a 99 cents item, I think Ebay should have taken care of that individually...not make everyone else pay for it in additional fees.  I think if you are overcharing on shipping, that's a whole different subject.  Most people who are buying on ebay will let you know that your shipping is too much.  I don't overcharge on shipping...it's $1 over the cost.  I weigh my item before I list it so it's pretty exact.  the economy is really bad right now...I'm practically giving my stuff away after fees from ebay.

I guess I'll have to raise my shipping rates now to make up the difference....I can't keep losing money.

 

 

(16 of 19)
Re: Charging fee shipping handling cost is illegal-Class action law suit needed
Apr 24, 2012 11:36 AM

If someone was charging $500 shipping on a 99 cents item, I think Ebay should have taken care of that individually...not make everyone else pay for it in additional fees.  I think if you are overcharing on shipping, that's a whole different subject.  Most people who are buying on ebay will let you know that your shipping is too much.  I don't overcharge on shipping...it's $1 over the cost.  I weigh my item before I list it so it's pretty exact.  the economy is really bad right now...I'm practically giving my stuff away after fees from ebay.

I guess I'll have to raise my shipping rates now to make up the difference....I can't keep losing money.

 

 

Yeah and then ebay allows buyers to rate the cost in the DSR's which ultimately cost you on fees, search standing, etc... It's totally rediculous and one of the main reasons many sellers(like myself) are moving their products to alternate venuesX-(


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(17 of 19)
Re: Charging fee shipping handling cost is illegal-Class action law suit needed
Jun 12, 2012 09:49 PM

I pay what the customer pays for shipping plus $1.00 in actual cost to ship a package.  I hear my customers complain about the actual costs all the time.  Occasionally, someone will send an item back and they charge me twice the shipping charge that I charge them and then it is not too high but ebay still takes a cut.  Either way I the seller lose!  I am like so many others.....using Craigs List more often and Using Ecrater more and more.

(18 of 19)
Re: Charging fee shipping handling cost is illegal-Class action law suit needed
Aug 15, 2012 05:51 PM

tbarr?  I'm fighting this right now with eBay. I'm sick of it!

I am ready to take it to the San Jose, and my state: Texas State ATTNY GENERALS OFFICE! You guys ready to do the same in your state?

(19 of 19)
Re: Charging fee shipping handling cost is illegal-Class action law suit needed
Apr 23, 2013 08:54 PM

Yep Kansas ATTNY  Generals office.   For Me.

 

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