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Board Clarification
Jul 11, 2006 03:46 PM
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Hello everyone, There have been several questions that you have said you wanted answered. We will attempt to clarify policy for this board for you one more time. You do need to understand not this board nor is there any board on eBay that was established for Animal Rescue. The original purpose of this board was to discuss Animal Collectibles. I think you all need to be reminded you do not know Maeve or me. You do not know if we have animals or not. You do not know where the animals came from if we have them. You also do not know what organizations we may work with outside of eBay. While I understand the feelings on this board common courtesy dictates that name calling and accusations are not appropriate and they will no longer be tolerated. If you wish to call names or speak in any manner that is not civil I would suggest you do it off of the eBay boards. We are not discussing the thread on the eBay Live board, it has nothing to do with this board. We would like to give you a little history of the Animal Board. Some of you have been on the board long enough to remember all of this some have not. When the board first was put up many started talking about their pets. I know some of you were around then. There were some disagreements but for the most the board got along pretty well. This went on for some time. Then one day it was decided on the board they wanted to start a fund that could be used to help members with Vet bills. The board was told they had to do that either in a group or off of eBay. They were told it was not allowed on the board. The members formed a group and worked on their project there. This went on for awhile then there was a disagreement amongst the members. Some quit others stepped in and took the project over. During that time there were questions about the choices of members who received help. There was abuse with members requesting help when they did not need it and also members asking for help more than one time. There were many hurt feelings and some very nice members of the board left. This did not turn out as members planned. People come to this board wanting homes for animals that they have found or that may have strayed into their yard. There have been animals people found in a shelter that their time was running out. One comes to my mind. A bunch got together to send this animal to one of the board members money was donated. This, by the way, was still against the rules. One person volunteered to go pick the animal up and transport was arranged to get it to the proper person. As most of you know that never happened. This also did not turn out as planned Those things and many others were done with the best intentions. Some very good things were done. The things that stand out in my mind are the ones which failed. This is to be expected as we are the ones who get the emails from members who have been hurt one way or the other when things like this fail. We understand the great need for Rescue and this board is not the place to do that. As so many of you have pointed out lives are at stake. To best serve that purpose it is essential to have professional assistance to oversee work that has such life-saving impact and therefore, it's important that those who wish to become involved with Rescue take an active part in one of the many websites on the internet hosted by agencies that work strictly with animals and are expert in their fields or in local Rescue organizations. They are always in need of help in many forms. In order to support this appropriately, rescue work should not be conducted on the eBay boards, but on those others where professional oversight is possible A few things you might want to keep in mind. 1-You can not effectively diagnose an animal’s condition over the internet. If the animal has something wrong with it then it needs to go to the Vet . 2-You can not know a person or their intentions from the internet. As you all know, taking on the care of an animal is a big commitment, both in terms of time and money. You can not judge a persons’ ability to care for an animal without talking to them and going through other established steps that most recognized Rescue organizations use. 3-No matter how good your intentions are, or how many success stories you may have or believe you have, if the proper steps are not followed and follow-up is not provided to insure the animal has been placed in a safe secure loving home, you will not truly know the outcome. 4- People who come to this board looking for help with a problem are asking for help and advice. They do not need or want to be lectured on why they should not do what they see as the only way to keep an animal. They do need to kindly hear both the pros and cons of what they are thinking and be offered alternative suggestions. 5- If there are pictures of animals in traps or animals for sale on the site all listings now have a report button them. The best way to bring attention to them is to use the report button. 6- If there is a problem on this board use the report button. The Moderators will make the decision if the post is against board policy. Here are the policies. I am sure you will notice some have been changed to make it easier for all involved to understand and to remove any questions about right or wrong. One of the most important things to remember is looking for loopholes to get by the intended meaning of these rules will not work and any try at getting around the rules will be dealt with severely. 1-This board is not to be used as a rescue platform. 2-No funds will be collected, asked for or hinted at for any purpose on this board. 3-Posts cannot contain a request for money, a place to send money or a reason to donate. 4-You can't even say, please help this animal or it will be considered soliciting. 5-You can link to another website with a discreet link on your About Me page or an eBay Blog. 6-You can't ask for donations on either a me page or in a blog.. 7-No posts will be permitted offering animals for placement either in a foster home or a forever home. 8-No pictures will be allowed of animals needing medical attention or the after effects of treatment This policy will not be changed. We will not be answering email pertaining to this policy. Posts made that are personal attacks or against board policy will be removed. I will be asking the Moderators to grant a vacation to anyone who has three posts reported. Jackie
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Board Clarification
Jul 26, 2006 05:24 PM
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Amber you are new here so I won't jump on you for not knowing that Wendy is one of the most loved, most respected, most caring people on this or any other board. Nuff said. Lucy Every day is precious and every life is special. Even the smallest of creatures can bring you joy and gifts beyond your imagination. If only you will let them.
Lucy Every day is precious and every life is special. Even the smallest of creatures can bring you joy and gifts beyond your imagination. If only you will let them.
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Jul 26, 2006 05:33 PM
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Wendy -- I don't understand....I don't think I am seeing what you're seeing. I come to this thread and read the posts, and every once in awhile I get piqued enough to speak my mind....air my grief, even....I hope you don't think that is playing into anyone's hands.

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Jul 26, 2006 06:01 PM
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blondiesbeanies..... see these? (((((((((((((((())))))))))))))) ummmmmm do you see anything wrong with that!? blondie, sweetie, maybe next time you could try ))))))))((((((((((.... I don't think that's technically considered to be a--- (the H word). ))))))Everyone((((((
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Jul 26, 2006 06:52 PM
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In all respect bright, I guess you don't see what I do with the AB. Maybe I should just keep my big mouth shut, so the rest of the AB can end up in the basement. ((((Lucy))))) thank you for such kind words..but I don't deserve them. I'm heartbroken to see what is happening. I don't know anyone here anymore.

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Jul 26, 2006 07:05 PM
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{{{{{Wendy}}}}} you deserve every one of those words and more. You do NOT wear a mask, if anything you wear your heart on your sleeve.
{{{{{{{Everyone}}}}}}} The AB is family for some of us and like a family we will have our problems and our squabbles. Some of us will leave home while others stay. Like a family, it is the bad times that will bring us closer together. We forgive, we forget, and we go on loving.
I just want to tell you all how proud and honored I am to be a part of this family. The format here may change, the rules may change, but it can not change what we feel for one another or what we do for the animals. JMHO
Lucy
Every day is precious and every life is special. Even the smallest of creatures can bring you joy and gifts beyond your imagination. If only you will let them.
Lucy Every day is precious and every life is special. Even the smallest of creatures can bring you joy and gifts beyond your imagination. If only you will let them.
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Jul 26, 2006 07:08 PM
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Puuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr... Ally

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Jul 26, 2006 07:09 PM
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{{{{{Wendy}}}}}
Just wanted to wrap my arms around you and hug you tightly.
We are all seeing different things right now my dear friend. Interpretation of words is very individual.
Does not make anyone's opinion more or less valid. Okay?
We will get through this, somehow.
We may come out tattered and torn, but we will get through this.
Love you sweet lady.
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In loving memory
of {{{{{{Grimmy}}}}}}} 4/11/06

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In loving memory
of {{{{{{Grimmy}}}}}}} 4/11/06
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Jul 26, 2006 07:47 PM
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Wendy, you are NOT the only one who sees it that way. There are a lot of us who do but are afraid to say anything for fear of getting our heads handed back to us. But it's getting old. Really, really old. Can someone please explain the influx of new 0 feedback IDs that spring up daily? If everyone here is on the up and up why are all these IDs needed? Speak your mind. Say your piece. If getting these pink things is so funny then no one should be afraid to use their REAL user ID. Wendy, the undercurrent here is that eventually the pot will get stirred long and hard enough that eBay will throw the entire mess out. And a whole bunch of very nice folks who had absolutely NOTHING to do with this current meltdown will get tossed out with it. What did we do to deserve this? And where do we go? To 911? I don't think so. We just get tossed. And it sucks. I am certain to get hammered for this, but you know, so be it. I try to be nice to everyone here, keep my mouth shut when I don't agree and just be nice, because being nice matters. But that's a two way street. And watching this board get dumped because of a war I still haven't figured out is more than this little oatmeal mouse can take. This is eBay's sandbox. We are guests in it. If we don't like the rules, we have the option to leave. And many have. And that's sad, but it is their choice to do so and I respect their choice. However, those who keep coming back taking pots shots at eBay over and over and over for no apparent reason is something I just don't get. To some of us, it appears the goal is to get the board shut down. What else can it be? The point of not agreeing with eBay's decisions over rule changes has been made, over and over and over again. So what clear purpose does belaboring all this for weeks on end serve? None that some can see, other than to end a very, very nice place that some of us have come to call our "home". So don't feel bad Wendy. They can hammer me too. I'm tired of this stuff. But I ain't leaving till eBay shuts the doors. I foolishly did it once, I'm not doing it again. I'll be here till the end. And if these people keep it up, it won't be long. Blast away... Sue Peterson Thinking of a very special young lady today. 
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Board Clarification
Jul 26, 2006 08:03 PM
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And Wendy is no traitor!!!! Thinking of a very special young lady today. 
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Jul 26, 2006 09:23 PM
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I can see Wendys side and everyones side... I know I dont feel the same about the AB,,,I have joined other boards and I post on them,,,, See,,, for some reason when I read the intro above.... I believed in the part that said.... Please share your views and suggestions regarding the Animal Collectibles category or topics in general. TOPICS IN GENERAL.... I am a literal and lateral kind of person,,,,I say what I mean,,,and I mean what I say..... I took it to mean we could talk about TOPICS IN GERERAL,,and not be punished for it.... My black and white world does have a little gray area in it..... Guess another instance I am wrong...... . ***** Connie Proud member of Animal Friends and Rescue/ABS in eBay Groups *****
Connie
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Jul 26, 2006 09:31 PM
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It has said that since day one but on the right hand side it says
Animal Lovers Community
Discussion Highlights
Collectibles Selling Guide
Find Pet Supplies on eBay
Made by TCM
Please sign my guest book on my ME page. Thank You
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Board Clarification
Jul 26, 2006 09:32 PM
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Been there Minty, you guys sent me an invitation. I did not fit in. So I did not stay. Thank you for the invite tho. I cannot speak for Wendy and never will but I would GUESS that the traitor she speaks of is the "them against us" attitude that I felt at 911 the first time I logged in. Granted it was right after many left here and there were raw feelings there. Then there was the way some there laugh at what is left of this board after the meltdown and those of us trying to keep what's left together. Such as it is. And the attitude of how bad the board is now after so many left, how was it put today, the garbage was at the front of the board and the good stuff is only in the basement. Something like that. And some of the comments made about those still here. And I you know who I mean, you called her the "queen" of the AB. I don't know her from Adam but I would not call anyone "queen" here. Just folks trying to make the best of a very sad situation. So yes, I've been there, and no, I did not fit in. But again, thank you for inviting me. And no, I won't be bothering you guys over at 911 anymore. Oh, was there any rules there about the name we were supposed to use? If there was it was not in the invitations you all sent to me. Why did you send me an invitation anyway? And Minty, please say hello to cowboyrob for me while there. You know, maybe what Wendy meant by "traitor" was all the stuff about a spy in your midst. It wasn't Wendy. Please do not send me anymore invitations. Sue Thinking of a very special young lady today. 
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Jul 26, 2006 09:36 PM
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(Thanks Dad, for giving me the courage to stand up for something I believe in, this little board, and the good people here, knowing I am about to get tarred and feathered for it. I love you Dad. I always will.) Thinking of a very special young lady today. 
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Board Clarification
Jul 26, 2006 09:43 PM
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need to have enough for two ,,,Sue..... I saw nothing wrong with your post.... . ***** Connie Proud member of Animal Friends and Rescue/ABS in eBay Groups *****
Connie
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Jul 26, 2006 09:45 PM
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Sue,, may I email you thru ebay . ***** Connie Proud member of Animal Friends and Rescue/ABS in eBay Groups *****
Connie
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Jul 26, 2006 09:47 PM
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I do believe that there is enough of us for 2,3 ,19 boards and places to go.... Some will mesh and some wont.... Attacking each other is not the way to go,,,, and people coming in to stir,,,,well,,,they know whrere they stand in the food chain..... My daddy always told me if I took a stand on something,,,I had better be able to cover it.... But thats just me.... . ***** Connie Proud member of Animal Friends and Rescue/ABS in eBay Groups *****
Connie
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Jul 26, 2006 09:48 PM
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Thank you Connie, from me, my Dad, and a number of others who wish to stay out of this. They are here. Watching and waiting for this to end. I hope the board lasts that long. You are a good woman. Sue Thinking of a very special young lady today. 
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Jul 26, 2006 09:48 PM
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I'm so confused....I have no idea what is going on.
All I know for sure is I love everyone here.  I consider most of you friends....some are closer friends than I have in my real life.
Have I missed something???  Has something else happened???

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Board Clarification
Jul 26, 2006 09:52 PM
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Wendy -- if I've done something to upset you, please email me...

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Jul 26, 2006 09:54 PM
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I am not sure what happened tonite Bright.... or today,,,whenever.... . ***** Connie Proud member of Animal Friends and Rescue/ABS in eBay Groups *****
Connie
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Jul 26, 2006 10:03 PM
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Sue - may I email you?

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Jul 26, 2006 10:07 PM
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Connie, please email me anytime, anytime. My email is haybarn@cass.net, it is easier to use than the message system. Bright, nothing new has happened. Some of us are just tired of all the games going on here with new IDs popping in and starting threads to agitate, aggrevate and upset. To me it appears the ultimate goal lately is to tick off eBay so much with the constant bickering that they shut down this board cause it's not worth the trouble. Maybe we are wrong and if we are, it would be really nice if someone would explain to all why this continues to happen. Most of the new IDs have just started since all the changes have occured and some of the comments coming from them are not helpful or fun, they are snide, nasty or downright mean. So how all this helps keep this board going is beyond my ability to comprehend. So, no Bright, sadly, little has changed lately. When I saw Wendy had the courage to stand up and say something, I thought maybe I could too. I am not a brave soul, I never rock the boat. I am very shy, but this time my Dad gave me a little courage, a little push, and here I am. If we don't stand up for this board who will? We didn't do anything to deserve getting this board shut down. And if it keeps going, they will shut it down. Sue Thinking of a very special young lady today. 
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Jul 26, 2006 10:08 PM
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Bright, please do, anytime. Sue haybarn@cass.net Thinking of a very special young lady today. 
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Jul 26, 2006 10:10 PM
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Sue,, please report those 2 so you dont get in trouble ok??? . ***** Connie Proud member of Animal Friends and Rescue/ABS in eBay Groups *****
Connie
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