Ladies and gentlemen of the Bidding Board, may I introduce little Miss Freaking Sunshine...

Lyn, your original post was
" Why can't eBay post min bid you need to be high bidder?"

It was explained to you several times, how can you disagree with fact and logic?

If you disagree with our explanation of how proxy bidding works, perhaps a better solution for you is to contact Ebay and ask them.

Here is the link to the help pages. If you look on the right hand side of the page, it will show a button that says "contact us".
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Rudeness aside, I don't think you have read the actual explanations nor comprehended them.

My max bid is NO ONE's business. If I want to bid $5,000 on a Paul McCartney blow up love doll for example, I certainly don't want my max bid to be shown, especially to competing bidders.

Pretend that this is an auction house and they accept sealed bids...highest bid wins, and no one knows what the other bidders bid.

As I said, if you are not willing to accept our explanations, and you disagree with the whole concept of proxy bidding, then take it up with Ebay by using the link I provided earlier.

It was explained several times WHY. Please go back and read up on how proxy bidding works. Ebay instituted the concept of proxy bidding in it's auctions, with the high bidder's maximum proxy bid remaining hidden. We didn't invent it, so your beef is with Ebay.

And please calm down. Calling everyone "jerks", "morons" and "stupid" just makes you look immature and unintelligent.

I'm saying you would have to bid OVER the other person's max bid. That's the whole point in posting the max bid. You could not make someone pay as much as possible. And as many rude posters said to me, you shouldn't bid more than you are willing to pay.

lyn2575,

By eBay posting the bidder’s max bid, what is there to prevent another bidder from bidding just UNDER that bidder’s max bid thus forcing that bidder to pay his/her max bid?

eBay’s Proxy Bidding system is designed such that the winning bidder pays no more than one bid increment above the second place bidder’s maximum bid in a no-reserve price auction.

By displaying a legitimate bidder’s maximum bid without any legitimate competing bids placed, what is there to prevent another bidder or a seller from using an alternate ID to shill the legitimate bidder’s bid such that the legitimate bidder ends up paying his/her maximum bid against illegitimate bids?

One shouldn’t bid more than s/he's willing to pay. I agree. However, there is no justification whatsoever for the bidder to have to pay his/her maximum bid if ANY of the bids were illegitimate since the bidding process is TAINTED.

For example, YOU are the first bidder to a no reserve price auction and YOU place a legitimate bid of $1000. I, being a self-admitted selfish and miserable bastard, with no genuine interest in the item, come along and bid $990 thus forcing you to pay $1000 for the item. How would you honestly feel about having to pay $1000? Now, how do you feel about eBay posting the minimum bid required to become the high bidder?

How many times do I have to explain this before you can grasp it? The max bid would NOT be a target for shill and sport bidders, because a bid would only count if it was OVER the max bid.

eBay’s Proxy Bidding system is designed such that the winning bid is no more than one bid increment above the second place bidder’s maximum proxy bid in a no reserve price auction.

If there is one legitimate bidder who places a legitimate bid in the auction and under YOUR IDEA, there would not be any competing bids UNLESS the competing bid is OVER the existing bid, right?

If so, then if the auction closes with only ONE bid, the item is sold at the opening price since there are no legitimate competing bids to drive the price above the seller’s opening asking price.

How many eBay seller’s do you honestly believe will accept YOUR IDEA, lyn2575?

If that were the rule, all auctions would end at the starting bid. All the first bidder would have to do is put in a nuclear bid (a ridiculous amount far above the market value of the item) and the price would remain at the starting bid unless someone outbid that nuclear bid with an even higher nuclear bid.

I don't think that's what Lyn wants. She wants the bid to immediately move to your max, effectively ending proxy bidding.

that'll bring in more buyers. *insert rolling eye siggy here*

I believe that what our OP is attempting to communicate is that he wants to do away totally with proxy bidding -- the full amount of any bid is immediately applied and becomes the high bid.

In other words, an outcry auction.

Would someone like to explain to the OP why an outcry auction cannot be made workable on a world-wide internet site with (at last published account) some forty million bidders living (and sleeping!) in 24 different time zones?

Please?