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Last Post Aug 4, 2005 9:27 PM by: cornercube
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bookscm@ebay.com
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Changes to Make Product Finders Appear as Categories

May 19, 2004 10:40 AM
Hi Everyone,

Over the last several months, we’ve introduced enhancements to Books, Music, Movies, and Video Games categories to offer buyers more flexibility in finding items. This strategy has involved simplifying the category structure by replacing the lower levels of the existing category structure with Item Specifics.

Based on Community feedback and careful observation of buyer behavior as they browse these categories, in the next few days we will be making a change to the Product Finder feature to make it easier for browsers to use. The current drop-down menus for item specifics will be replaced with links, so that genres, subjects, platforms, etc. will be clearly visible on search pages and listings pages. By showing these links prominently to buyers, it will be even easier for them to find their favorite genres, subjects, and platforms.

This change to Product Finder helps buyers by combining the flexibility offered by Item Specifics with a more familiar category-like interface. We hope this change will assist with any browsers that have had difficulty using the drop down menus to find items in this area.

Below are frequently asked questions and screenshots of how this change will look.

Regards,
eBay

What is Changing?
We are removing the drop-down menus in the Product Finders in the Books, Movies, Music, and Video Games categories and replacing them with links. Here is an example of how the listings pages will look:



We are also expanding the main (or “portal”) pages for each of these areas in order to show many more links for buyers. Here is how this page will look:



Why did we make this change?

Buyers who search for items in the books, music, movies, and video games categories have asked us for more powerful features to narrow down their search results to a more manageable list. In response to this request, we have built product finders in many areas of eBay that help buyers filter their searches using drop-down menus to select item specifics (genre, condition, etc.) . While item specifics are an important feature that allow buyers the flexibility to narrow their browsing lists in ways that are tailored to suit their needs, we have found that the interface presented to the Product Finder itself has needed improvement. We believe there is a better way to display the Product Finder tool so that browsers will find it easier to use. In the next few days, we will replace the drop down menus with links that visually appear very similar to the “matching categories” we had previously. By changing the way buyers use the Product Finder, we offer buyers the flexibility of item specifics with a familiar, intuitive look-and-feel.

Why is this change taking place only in Books, Music, Movies, and Video Games?

We have listened to the buyers and sellers in the BMMG categories and studied the methods and features buyers use to shop in these categories to determine that this change was right for this area of the site. We are currently evaluating other eBay categories to see if this change would be appropriate elsewhere. In categories where buyers are more comfortable with drop-down menus, we may maintain product finder functionality in this format.

What will be changing next?

eBay users shop in many different ways and have different needs in how they want to sort through the items for sale on eBay.com. To respond to their needs and the needs of our growing community of sellers, we will continue to refine item specifics and evolve the eBay platform to help buyers and sellers transact. In time, we may evolve the product finder tool again to offer members a choice, so that drop-down menus are available to those buyers who want to find items quickly and product finder links are available to browsers who want to scan items.
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Re: Changes to Make Product Finders Appear as Categories

May 19, 2004 10:41 AM
We will be announcing this change on the announcement board soon, and expect the changes to be live within the next few days.

Regards,
eBay
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Re: Changes to Make Product Finders Appear as Categories

May 19, 2004 10:47 AM
YA! Thanks
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Re: Changes to Make Product Finders Appear as Categories

May 19, 2004 10:53 AM
Thank You.
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Re: Changes to Make Product Finders Appear as Categories

May 19, 2004 10:58 AM
Call be a chronic bitcher, but it still looks like a counter intuitive mess that is harder to use than what we had and what worked fine before.

This constant meddling only serves to confuse the customers and disrupt everyone's use of Ebay.

The fact that you are changing it is an admission that you realize no one likes IS and offering us yet another version of the same stupid garbage is an insult.

Why can't you just put the damn categories back and get the hell out of everybody's way?!

We would all be very grateful if you did.
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Re: Changes to Make Product Finders Appear as Categories

May 19, 2004 11:09 AM
"enhancements"

BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA BWA HA HA HOO HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HOO HEE BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA, Hoo!

Too late. I've got twenty boxes of quality stuff that I'm moving to Anyone But eBay, and the other 2-3 boxes I'm donating.

THANKS FOR PUTTING ME OUT OF THE EBAY BUSINESS. Best move I was ever forced by your utter incompetence to make.

Is it that hard to admit you made a mistake?
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Re: Changes to Make Product Finders Appear as Categories

May 19, 2004 11:25 AM
Bravo! But hardly the apology followed by a big helping of humble pie many of us were expecting from you. At least this is SOMETHING. And I, for one, am grateful for anything at this point. It remains to be seen if our sales will recover, and if they do, to what extent. In the meantime, at least we have some hope... Now if only you couuld come up with something to repair eBay management's tarnished image and credibility!
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Re: Changes to Make Product Finders Appear as Categories

May 19, 2004 11:31 AM
Outstanding!

Thank you, Bookscm, for listening to us, and for your continued commitment and support for booksellers!

Tell Michael Dearing I said, "Thank You", too. ;)
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Re: Changes to Make Product Finders Appear as Categories

May 19, 2004 11:32 AM
Could we push to make eBay's selling tools (SAB) work with the new changes next?
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Re: Changes to Make Product Finders Appear as Categories

May 19, 2004 11:33 AM
IF these changes not only LOOK like the old category system, but also WORK identically, then ... fine.

Personally, I'll believe it when I see it. But, then, I'm an optimist ...
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Re: Changes to Make Product Finders Appear as Categories

May 19, 2004 12:12 PM
I'm not getting my hopes up until I see it.
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Re: Changes to Make Product Finders Appear as Categories

May 19, 2004 12:16 PM
Links !!!
Links !!!
Don'tcha get ir ???
LINKS ...
ROTFLMAO
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Re: Changes to Make Product Finders Appear as Categories

May 19, 2004 1:37 PM
Looks interesting. Why did they eBay change it in the first place? I cannot figure it out. We just want to make more money so if this helps great -- I think we're all in agreement on that at least, right? Thanks for listening but maybe old categories is even BETTER? What a trip!
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Re: Changes to Make Product Finders Appear as Categories

May 19, 2004 2:28 PM
Is there any doubt who the A__ Kisser is so far ?

Think of a lucky number and look above.
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Re: Changes to Make Product Finders Appear as Categories

May 19, 2004 3:08 PM
So Ebay is realizing they made a big boo-boo. Of course, rather than admit it and return things
back to the old methods which made everyone happy, they refuse to admit they screwed up. The geniuses in management just don't understand the concept of 'browsing'. Links and so-called
enhancements may or may not help some but buyers still are going to have trouble browsing in
the fashion they were used to.

Ebay appears to be bent on a policy of forcing sellers and buyers to use item-specifics even if
they go broke in the process. And if the company doesn't it'll be through luck. As one person
has already pointed out in a posting, if sellers don't sell not only does Ebay not collect VAFs
but they also lose out on PayPal fees. Couple all the sellers screaming their sales are in the
toilet, all the buyers who have stated they're not buying anymore because they can't browse,
all the sellers listing less and those who have went to other sites, and the lack of revenue
from PayPal, and there's the proof that the only thing Ebay pays attention to is the quarterly
profit and loss report. Gawd knows, they don't listen to their sellers or buyers.

I've already stopped listing on Ebay, moving to other sites instead where I've actually been
selling--something I hadn't been doing on Ebay since the Great Carnage. These changes
are a tiny, faltering step in the right direction but considering every 'improvement' Ebay
has touted, I'll believe this is an 'improvement' when and if sales pick up. In the meantime,
I'm not listing a thing on Ebay until they return sub-categories.

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