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FAQ about book terminology and grading

Sep 1, 2002 5:46 AM
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Re: FAQ about book terminology and grading

Nov 21, 2002 5:14 PM
Sorry Greeneyeswhitetiger ...
Good Sport! Actually, sealing a book in plastic is highly UNRECOMMENDED ! Doing so will effectively increase the likelyhood of further deterioration. Paper and cloth are porous materials and need to breathe. Fresh , slightly cool air that is circulated lightly is best for a library. Many a person has found to their chagrin that by sealing a book in plastic, whatever mold or faunal impurities that were present at the time of sealing would continue ot grow unchecked in what then had become a tiny little hot house.
What seemed a dry book when sealed had become spotted with black sooty mold and the paper deteriorated further with a slightly spongy texture...of course that is the extreme scenario....the reality is usually approaching that possibility though.

I have seen this recently in a bookshop...it was sad.
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Re: FAQ about book terminology and grading

Jan 7, 2003 12:06 PM
Book Sizes - Information
jkinsel (312) (view author's auctions)
7:44am January 7, 2003

Here is a bit of useful information I picked up on About.com

Many booksellers use terms like "folio" and "octavo" to describe a book's format.
And, just as many prospective book buyers are thoroughly confused by these
terms.

Format refers to a book's size and shape. Traditionally, this has meant, "the size
of a volume in terms of the number of times the original printed sheet has been
folded to form its constiuent leaves." (ABC for Book Collectors, John Carter). Thus, a
folio is folded once, a quarto twice, etc.

The most common formats are:

folio
quarto (4vo)
octavo (8vo)
duodecimo(12mo)
sixteenmo (16mo)
twentyfourmo (24mo)

Still confused? Then think of it this way: the name indicates what fraction of the
larger sheet the individual leaf occupies. So, a leaf in a quarto (4vo)occupies 1/4
of the sheet

If the traditional use of book formats has left your head spinning, don't worry!
Almost all modern usage of folio or its brethren refers to the approximate height
of the book.

Modern Book Formats and Their Approximate Heights (in inches)

Double elephant folio, 50"
Atlas folio 25"
Elephant folio 23"
F = folio 15" (coffee table book)
Q = quarto (4to) 12" (telephone book)
O = octavo (8vo) 9" (standard hardcover)
D = duodecimo (12mo) 7" (standard paperback)
S = sixteenmo (16mo) 6"
T = twentyfourmo (24mo) 5"
thirtytwomo (32mo) 5"
fortyeightmo (48mo) 4"
sixtyfourmo (64mo) 3"
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Re: FAQ about book terminology and grading

Jan 20, 2003 3:30 PM
If a well-known author is appearing at a signing of her new book, is it completely gauche to ask her to sign another one of her books?
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Re: FAQ about book terminology and grading

Jan 24, 2003 6:02 AM
I am not a comic book collector or dealer. But
I do have a #1 Silver Surfer,in what I would call,
mint condition. What does CGC stand for and how
do you get numerical ratings?. ex: 9.4, 8.0

Cody Thompson
dean@pennswoods.net
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FAQ about book terminology and grading

Mar 12, 2003 8:51 AM
My favorite resource for book terminology is the book ABC for Book Collectors by John Carter. There are many editions available, all are really helpful. I have an old one and a seventh edition revised by Nicolas Barker. I consider this book a must have for anyone trying to describe books who isn't familiar with the terminology.


Thanks for all the great tips everyone!


*SMILE*


Catherine

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FAQ about book terminology and grading

Mar 13, 2003 5:23 AM
joan Bringing another book for the author to sign is usually fine unless there are prestated rules against this (and sometimes there are). Also, the author may say no, but I always bring an extra with me and I have always had it signed. Usually the author glad someone has and remembers previous books.

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FAQ about book terminology and grading

Mar 13, 2003 5:24 AM
stilton You might be better off on the comic book board where they specialize in that medium.
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FAQ about book terminology and grading

Mar 23, 2003 8:19 AM
I need some information about the term "remaindered" Understand this is a flaw. What is it, and need a description.
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FAQ about book terminology and grading

Mar 23, 2003 8:45 AM
janice62: Bookstores generally do not buy the new books they sell. Instead, they are sort of loaned or consigned to the bookstore [or distributor] and any copies that don't sell are returned. These returned books and the unsold stock [i.e., remainder stock] are then marked at the bottom edge of the textblock and then offered to the bookstore [or distributor] at a very low price with the understanding that they cannot be returned for credit. This "remainder mark" can be a spray or a stamp or a slash made with a magic marker.

To a collector this is a serious flaw and reduces the value of the book. Such a defect must always be noted in your Item Description.

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jakesterz
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FAQ about book terminology and grading

Apr 28, 2003 12:05 PM
This may be a dumb question, but when there are two descriptions of condition (ie. VG/VG), to what does each refer?

Thanks.
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kookidz
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FAQ about book terminology and grading

Apr 28, 2003 1:35 PM
The book and the dustjacket. So for example, you could have VG/G (book=VG, dj=G).
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ccpif
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FAQ about book terminology and grading

May 7, 2003 7:24 AM
A Short Course in Book Anatomy
kookidz (384) (view author's auctions)
05/07/03 6:10 AM

Here's a good site on book anatomy--with pictures as well as text--for those who learn visually!

Link

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mhbks (1268) (view author's auctions)
05/07/03 6:43 AM (# 1 of 2)

Excellent basic resource kookidz. Thanks!

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kiwi*books (173) (view author's auctions)
05/07/03 6:48 AM (# 2 of 2)

Thanks!
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generalbooks
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FAQ about book terminology and grading

May 7, 2003 8:16 AM
Just read this FAQ for the first time, and I thought I would list my favorite links & sources (which differ from those listed already) for book condition & book terminology glossaries, etc.


1. I highly recommend the series of book condition grading articles in the February through June 1998 issues of FIRSTS MAGAZINE. Back issues can be ordered through their website: Link

Now time for me to get to work!! Have a good day!

2. Thomas Lee's "20th Century First Edition Fiction: A Price and Identification Guide" is one of the best guides to condition grading I've come across so far. He devotes about eight pages to the subject, with specific examples (and he regularly sells the book on eBay for a very reasonable price).

3. I really like these two glossary links for book terminology & condition grading terminology:

Link

Link

4. And a couple of Books that I recommend for terminology include:

ABC for Book Collectors by John Carter and,
The Encyclopedia of the Book by Geoffrey Glaister.

5. And, finally for novices or dabblers, a handy-dandy online first edition identification website for use until you get your own reference books:
Link


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generalbooks
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FAQ about book terminology and grading

May 7, 2003 8:56 AM
Hmm, looks like I messed up the "cut & paste" when I reordered the above list - lol

Here's another great link for terminology (at one of the most fascinating book related websites for on the net):

Link
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FAQ about book terminology and grading

Jul 2, 2003 5:13 AM
I would like some opinions on expert repair of antique books. Often I come across antique books where the spine is seperated from the pages (normally glue has dried out.

Should I have it repaired? Will it lower the value of the book to do so?
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