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Summmer Slow down
Jul 18, 2012 02:30 PM

How do you deal with the slow down in sales for the summer ?

 

 

Thanks

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Summmer Slow down

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Summmer Slow down
Jul 18, 2012 02:30 PM

How do you deal with the slow down in sales for the summer ?

 

 

Thanks

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(24 of 44)
Re: Summmer Slow down
Jul 25, 2012 02:05 AM

 

Anyway, let me know if you need help.

 

Thank you so much... I'll try to change my titles now. :>

(25 of 44)
Re: Summmer Slow down
Jul 25, 2012 04:46 AM

Also, providing the the full bibliographic details on your books is essential. People who buy Franklin, Easton, Folio, etc, want this info. Trust me, providing the basic, simple, bibliographic details will increase your sales by volumes.

 

Perhaps you could elaborate? It's been my experience that even attempting to catalog these books is an empty exercise, given that, typically, only a copyright date is present. Easton Press in particular is notorious for churning out titles again and again over a span of years, occasionally with binding variants but seemingly never with any textual bibliographic evidence that would point to a publication date.

 

I've also not experienced collector interest in this. Collector fussiness seems primarily focused on condition.

 

(26 of 44)
Re: Summmer Slow down
Jul 25, 2012 04:52 AM

I've also not experienced collector interest in this. Collector fussiness seems primarily focused on condition.

 

As well as price I'd say !

(27 of 44)
Re: Summmer Slow down / Fixed Price or Auction ?
Jul 25, 2012 04:55 AM

Folio Society collectors, and, I suspect, Easton Press in the U.S., are some of the pickiest and discerning folks out there. Here in the U.K. a Folio item must be just about perfect or they won't even look at it. Unless it is unique or very close to it, and priced like a mass market paperback.

 

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Ah! That's in the UK. Here in the US they are more rare and cherished so they can command a good price :)  But yes, I buy them from UK dealers !

 

We're getting some advice here at least, now if anyone knows what items to put in fixed price and which in auction that'd be great !

 

 

(28 of 44)
Re: Summmer Slow down / Fixed Price or Auction ?
Jul 25, 2012 05:52 AM

Auction everything.  If it doesn't sell after a week move it to your store.

(29 of 44)
Re: Summmer Slow down / Fixed Price or Auction ?
Jul 25, 2012 06:03 AM

Auction everything.  If it doesn't sell after a week move it to your store.

 

I'll try but it'll be a lot of fees !

 

 

(30 of 44)
Re: Summmer Slow down
Jul 25, 2012 06:14 AM

Has anyone noted the effects of the economic crisis on their sales ??

(31 of 44)
Re: Summmer Slow down
Jul 25, 2012 09:07 AM

Aren't book auctions free for listing (with 12 free photos)?  That's what it is for pottery and porcelain (what I usually sell if I ever sell anything).  ?:|Wendy

(32 of 44)
Re: Summmer Slow down
Jul 25, 2012 09:21 AM

Craig, take this for what it is worth, likely not much. This is my skewed view of the world and the Trade.

 

Collectors want to know they are buying from someone who has the ability to put together a coherent listing with properly identified details.This is an indication of service standards and knowledge of the product.

 

rubric, full title, author, publisher, copyright date (or any date present), physical description, collation, full condition statement, etc are all very important as you know.

 

In my personal opinion, a buyer wants every piece of information that a seller can muster the energy to provide and is entitled to it. So, even providing a lowly copyright date can go a long way to providing that comfort to the buyer that:

 

A) you have actually opened the book

B) you have some idea of the standard practices in the book trade and are thus able to give a proper condition statement (which I agree is a most important factor within this category of product)

 

You could argue that buyers of Easton Press do not need to know that the endpapers are silk moiré, or with bindings of leather accented with 22kt gold, or how many pages the books has or if its illustrated or the actual physical size of the book---that they should know.  Well, some people do not know, some people do not understand that Easton Press (and others) were issued often and with many variants. Customers may not know that often the variants can be understood and differentiated by binding as well as by the physical size. Maybe the difference in a customer choosing you over the other 1,000,001 people who sell Easton, Franklin,Folio, etc, is that you have gone out of your way to provide a proper, and full catalogue entry. 

 

Just because they are buying known books and the margins are low does not mean that we should not afford them the same cataloging services as provided elsewhere, even if it seems (or is) an empty exercise.

 

Regards,

Michael.

 

 

****My original remarks were given to someone that needs to learn the proper way to catalogue books. Whether they sell a Folio or two is not of importance, but rather, that we have armed that person with the knowledge to be a better book dealer. 

 

 

 

p.s.----Love the website------I check it out nearly everyday!!!  You sir, are a valued piece of this community and I for one wish to thank you for your efforts. 

(33 of 44)
Re: Summmer Slow down
Jul 25, 2012 09:28 AM

Aren't book auctions free for listing (with 12 free photos)?  That's what it is for pottery and porcelain (what I usually sell if I ever sell anything).  ?:|Wendy

 

Auctions are only free if you don't have a store.

(34 of 44)
Re: Summmer Slow down
Jul 25, 2012 09:34 AM

Collectors want to know they are buying from someone who has the ability to put together a coherent listing with properly identified details.This is an indication of service standards and knowledge of the product.

 

FULLY AGREE.

(35 of 44)
Re: Summmer Slow down
Jul 25, 2012 09:59 AM

Good luck Michael...

(36 of 44)
Re: Summmer Slow down / Fixed Price or Auction ?
Jul 25, 2012 10:01 AM

We're getting some advice here at least, now if anyone knows what items to put in fixed price and which in auction that'd be great !"

 

I think it probably depends a lot on what you sell and whether auctions are a proven effective way to move your product. I sell commodity books and find that auctions are not productive for me so I mostly auction lots. A bunch end up in my store anyway when they don't sell. My sell-through rate is not the best on this board but I've decided that using the Store is the way for me to go.

(37 of 44)
Re: Summmer Slow down
Jul 25, 2012 02:23 PM

I see where you're coming from, Michael, and of course you're absolutely right. Description consistency across the board, no matter what the book is, is the correct approach.

 

My difficulty with Eastons, I'd say, is that I ... loathe them. They look like the bibliographic equivalent of cartoon characters on a shelf. If you blow on them hard enough you can lift off the gilt. They're prone to foxing if stored in any but the most ideal conditions. Nobody reads them becase they aren't really books; they're decor. (And what does that make us clowns who sell them?) And Easton's title list, once heavily focused on classics, now looks like a Barnes & Noble remainder bin. Consequently, it's difficult for me to muster enthusiasm when presenting them for sale, and I usually short sheet the process. Or skip it altogether - in fact, I now have several dozen of them that I've been actively putting off listing, and the stacks are inching to the ceiling. At least the gilt edges make dusting easier!

 

Next time I list one I'll revisit this and perhaps sprinkle the description with a bibliographic mote or two and see how it goes. It might be good for me.

 

Thanks, BTW, for the kind words.

 

 

 

(38 of 44)
Re: Summmer Slow down
Jul 25, 2012 02:59 PM

Next time I list one I'll revisit this and perhaps sprinkle the description with a bibliographic mote or two

 

 

Wear eye protection.

 

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(39 of 44)
Re: Summmer Slow down
Jul 25, 2012 06:11 PM

Next time I list one I'll revisit this and perhaps sprinkle the description with a bibliographic mote or two

 

 

Wear eye protection.

 

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Or sprinkle the description with some Jim Beam ...

 

 

... and wear eye protection.

 

:-D

 

 

 

 

 

(40 of 44)
Re: Summmer Slow down
Jul 25, 2012 07:58 PM

Craig, I understand your apathy towards this most common of collectible book. I am not a big fan of them either, but what is nice, is that you know almost exactly what you will get out of them on the resale market. This makes life easier in regard to budgets and expectations of profit which is nice for some people.

 

In my experience, buyers (especially of Easton Press) will gladly give an additional 15-20% on the common titles for a properly catalogued title (in the $100 and under "zone")

 

One thing is certain, and we can't say this very often in this Trade, Easton Press titles always sell.  Always.

 

As to your comments on being a clown, I am reminded of Native American traditions where it is actually an honor to be the trickster, or "Coyote" as they would be known properly. They were typically keepers of the fire during ceremony, which is apropos to this conversation in that we as booksellers need to keep the home fires lit in regard to proper method (which I know you are a big fan of), and no mattter what, no matter what the product is used for or what gains are made or lost, we can take solice in the fact that we have provided the world a service and generally made it a better place in which to reside.

 

Anyway, continued good luck in your endeavors and if there is anything I can do to give you a hand please let me know.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

(41 of 44)
Re: Summmer Slow down
Jul 25, 2012 08:00 PM

Good luck Michael...

 

 

 

 

 

 

"Sometimes we owe a friend to the lucky circumstance that we give him no cause for envy."----Nietzsche

(42 of 44)
Re: Summmer Slow down
Jul 25, 2012 08:03 PM

Collectors want to know they are buying from someone who has the ability to put together a coherent listing with properly identified details.This is an indication of service standards and knowledge of the product.

 

FULLY AGREE.

 

With wisdom comes power.

 

The most important thing to remember is that you can always be better than you are. A better bookseller, and a better person. The hard part is to learn to strive harder once you have reached a roadblock or hinderance to those goals.

 

Best of luck.

 

(43 of 44)
Re: Summmer Slow down
Jul 25, 2012 08:08 PM

Re: Posts #38 and #39:

 

 

The Parable of the Mote and the Beam by Domenico Fetti, circa 1619

(44 of 44)
Re: Summmer Slow down
Jul 26, 2012 08:13 AM

Collectors want to know they are buying from someone who has the ability to put together a coherent listing with properly identified details.This is an indication of service standards and knowledge of the product.

 

FULLY AGREE.

 

With wisdom comes power.

 

The most important thing to remember is that you can always be better than you are. A better bookseller, and a better person. The hard part is to learn to strive harder once you have reached a roadblock or hinderance to those goals.

 

Best of luck.

 

 

 

 

Complacency is a part of Human nature, and sometimes we need outside motivation to remind us.  Keep a stack of old booksellers' catalogues or old Sotheby's and Christies catalogues at hand, and read through them now and again.  The not only serve to remind us, but usually teach us something new into the bargain.  I've probably learned more from Maggs 1930 catalogue 533 (Incunabula from 100 Towns) than anyone has a right to learn for free.

 

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