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The BSB - highest failure rate in recorded history?
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The BSB - highest failure rate in recorded history?
May 4, 2012 04:15 PM
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I've been here ten years. Okay... not ten years... nine years, eleven months and about thirty-six hours. In that time, 21,411 people have come to the BSB professing the unbridled desire to be booksellers. They come from the corners of the country, from the cities and the farms - 28,446 of them in ten years - with the burning desire to be booksellers. We see them here every day; they drive to the BSB with all they own in hundred dollar cars, with their hopes and dreams rattling around in a brown paper keyboard. The faces are new each day, but the stories are always the same - 33,508 stories - all different, but all the same. Cowboys, drunks, Christians, Catholic and squirrels - 36,988 of them - all wanting the same thing.
In those ten years - of those nearly 41,000 posters, only two have become booksellers - Melanie and lyceumdreams (whose name we still don't know, despire his having been here 24 hours a day for several decades). Two, out of more than fifty thousand. We are abject failures.
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Re: The BSB - highest failure rate in recorded history?
May 4, 2012 04:59 PM
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I've been here ten years. Okay... not ten years... nine years, eleven months and about thirty-six hours. In that time, 21,411 people have come to the BSB professing the unbridled desire to be booksellers. They come from the corners of the country, from the cities and the farms - 28,446 of them in ten years - with the burning desire to be booksellers. We see them here every day; they drive to the BSB with all they own in hundred dollar cars, with their hopes and dreams rattling around in a brown paper keyboard. The faces are new each day, but the stories are always the same - 33,508 stories - all different, but all the same. Cowboys, drunks, Christians, Catholic and squirrels - 36,988 of them - all wanting the same thing.
In those ten years - of those nearly 41,000 posters, only two have become booksellers - Melanie and lyceumdreams (whose name we still don't know, despire his having been here 24 hours a day for several decades). Two, out of more than fifty thousand. We are abject failures.
I don't sell thousand-dollar+ books, but I post here and I'm NOT a failure.
Do you realize how many people you have offended?
Thanks for everything you have given over the years to the board, Joe. You are a treasure.
I'm gonna take my hundred dollar car and exit.
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(2 of 72)
Re: The BSB - highest failure rate in recorded history?
May 4, 2012 05:01 PM
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Sorry to be one of the disappointing thousands, Joe. At this point in my life I don't know if I'll get beyond enthusiastic amateur status. It's probably not much consolation, but I have learned a lot from you all and I really appreciate the time and knowledge you all share.
Just this morning before all the hullabaloo, I was thinking of the amazing patience you and the others show in approaching each new hopeful with your message about the Trade. It's gotta get old to watch it fall on deaf ears.
Jane
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Re: The BSB - highest failure rate in recorded history?
May 4, 2012 05:06 PM
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Kate - reread the post, please. You didn't come here with that unstoppable urge to be a bookseller - you came here as a bookseller wanting to improve your abilities - and stayed to help others along the way. This isn't about whether we, collectively, have helped others sharpen their bookselling tools - it's simply about the fact that so many people come here wanting to learn from scratch, just because they "love books" - and disappear as quickly as they appear, like some scene from a poorly-produced staging of Faust.
Do we collectively act as a whetstone for booksellers who come to the Board? Absolutely... but as firestarters, we stink out loud.
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Re: The BSB - highest failure rate in recorded history?
May 4, 2012 05:08 PM
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kilfoil wrote:
Sorry to be one of the disappointing thousands, Joe. At this point in my life I don't know if I'll get beyond enthusiastic amateur status. It's probably not much consolation, but I have learned a lot from you all and I really appreciate the time and knowledge you all share.
Just this morning before all the hullabaloo, I was thinking of the amazing patience you and the others show in approaching each new hopeful with your message about the Trade. It's gotta get old to watch it fall on deaf ears.
Jane

You're certainly no disappointment, and if I had any sense, I'd just report the original post.
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Re: The BSB - highest failure rate in recorded history?
May 4, 2012 05:54 PM
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So what?
Every year, thousands of people express their burning desire to become actors, but they don't have the discipline or the intelligence to do it. They see what they think is the glamour. Or they played one of the the shepherds in the 4th grade Christmas pageant and loved the attention they got when they mugged to the audience. Or they've always had a crush on Ken Branagh or Emma Thompson. Or they want to hear someone say, "Oh! With your looks, you'd be wonderful!" Or... I could go on and on. Their "burning desire" is merely a sunburn -- skin deep, no deeper, and fading fast.
And it's the same for most of the people you're talking about who come here.
I am glad to see you backed off and granted that Kate and many others who post here are successful booksellers and worthy ones. Otherwise, I would have to have smacked you. Either that, or showed the squirrels that bit of loose siding that provides direct access to your attic.
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Re: The BSB - highest failure rate in recorded history?
May 4, 2012 06:06 PM
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I want to ensure that I'm not part of the 21,411.
Although I'm "new" here, I've been watching for years and my part-time casual selling has improved immensely by my lurking (as well as the mountains of stuff I've ingested at bookthink). Now that I have a burning and unbridled desire to be a bookseller, I will continue to post and learn and hope you all will continue to give freely of your time.
Adam
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Re: The BSB - highest failure rate in recorded history?
May 4, 2012 06:06 PM
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maxine*j wrote:
I am glad to see you backed off and granted that Kate and many others who post here are successful booksellers and worthy ones.

I didn't "back off" in the least. Lots of people here are successful booksellers - but only two of them weren't booksellers to begin with, having come here yearning to be (God knows why) booksellers.
maxine*j wrote:
Otherwise, I would have to have smacked you. Either that, or showed the squirrels that bit of loose siding that provides direct access to your attic.

Stone houses don't suffer from "loose siding," and the one squirrel in residence would never allow another little nut-scrounger within 12 parsecs of the place.
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Re: The BSB - highest failure rate in recorded history?
May 4, 2012 06:08 PM
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shakhammer8u4s wrote:
I want to ensure that I'm not part of the 21,411.
Adam

Stay awake! It's over 65,000 now.
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(9 of 72)
Re: The BSB - highest failure rate in recorded history?
May 4, 2012 07:38 PM
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D'ja ever figger that over the years many have posted repeatedly under assorted noms de plums so as to periodically enjoy the warmth of your attention, to milk the depths of your amazingly cyclopedic knowledge, to read what you have writ so well, and to chortle along with yer subtile cleverness?
Not that I've ever dun secha thing, but it's bin tempting.
I continue to hope that yer notes and scribbles here and elsewhere are being saved and will someday appear in a book of yer own makin'.
Here's to ya!!
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(10 of 72)
Re: The BSB - highest failure rate in recorded history?
May 4, 2012 07:42 PM
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#9 is, of course addressed to GoodOle Fine (I caint member his last name, sorry 'bout dat).
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(11 of 72)
Re: The BSB - highest failure rate in recorded history?
May 4, 2012 07:53 PM
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You may not count me since I don't sell high end books but I DID come here as someone who wanted to be a bookseller (a lifelong desire not yet expressed) and learned how from this board and have a small satisfying bookselling business.
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(12 of 72)
Re: The BSB - highest failure rate in recorded history?
May 4, 2012 07:53 PM
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I don't know if I rank as a "bookseller" as opposed to someone who sells books online, but I'm pretty sure that at the start of my business I came here and asked a lot of questions. It was a long time ago so my memory may be faulty, but I think there are many more like me out there.
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Re: The BSB - highest failure rate in recorded history?
May 4, 2012 07:58 PM
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Cibola and Keziak - I assumed you were both already booksellers when you arrived here. Bookselling is bookselling - it's not what a bookseller sells, but how they sell that turns the tide.
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Re: The BSB - highest failure rate in recorded history?
May 4, 2012 08:02 PM
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gismas wrote:
D'ja ever figger that over the years many have posted repeatedly under assorted noms de plums so as to periodically enjoy the warmth of your attention, to milk the depths of your amazingly cyclopedic knowledge, to read what you have writ so well, and to chortle along with yer subtile cleverness?
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Skip - never even for a moment have I thought that - I'm just a regular arrogant egocentric, not a conceited arrogant egocentric.
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Re: The BSB - highest failure rate in recorded history?
May 4, 2012 08:09 PM
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Count me in as one who truly and deeply appreciates the lessons being taught here. I eke out a living selling used books, but the real reason I stick with books is because I love reading and handling them. It's innate in me. For whatever reasons I never went throught the traditional routes of school and college, but if there is one gift I gained from those who put my first book in my grubby little paws it is the love for the printed word.
So, ultimately, if you love what you're doing, it is never failure.
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(16 of 72)
Re: The BSB - highest failure rate in recorded history?
May 4, 2012 09:25 PM
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Someone once said..."you never know how these things are gonna turn out."
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(17 of 72)
Re: The BSB - highest failure rate in recorded history?
May 4, 2012 10:43 PM
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We are abject failures.
Not at all ... the BSB is the equivalent of literary boot camp.
Those 65,000+ desertions simply got tired of hearing, "THE COPYRIGHT DATE MEANS NOTHING!!!!!!!!"

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Re: The BSB - highest failure rate in recorded history?
May 5, 2012 12:05 AM
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For what it's worth...
I've become a bookseller by (inter multa alia) watching
what Joe does,
not what he says ...
(and, believe it or not, while I was busy learning, I don't think I even knew that this board existed).
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This ... and what Maxine said about "burning desire"...
Indeed, burning desire has little (if not negative) correlation with success.
What does have something to do with success is unbending will ... and a small matter of one's ability to access, process and utilize information.
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(19 of 72)
Re: The BSB - highest failure rate in recorded history?
May 5, 2012 02:58 AM
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Does anyone have the code for a smiley face holding their hands over their mouth shaking no, no?
lol
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(20 of 72)
Re: The BSB - highest failure rate in recorded history?
May 5, 2012 04:45 AM
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I don't know. Maybe I could have become a bookseller. Maybe not. But I'm not proud. I'll still attempt to sell a book or two if I can buy it right.
Otherwise, I'd rather make a few dollars and have money in my pocket
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(21 of 72)
Re: The BSB - highest failure rate in recorded history?
May 5, 2012 07:47 AM
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lux-et-umbra wrote:
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For what it's worth...
I've become a bookseller by (inter multa alia) watching
what Joe does,
not what he says ...
(and, believe it or not, while I was busy learning, I don't think I even knew that this board existed).

Okay... now I'm a a conceited arrogant egocentric.
Mark - I'm speechless.
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(22 of 72)
Re: The BSB - highest failure rate in recorded history?
May 5, 2012 08:39 AM
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"THE COPYRIGHT DATE MEANS NOTHING!!!!!!!!"
Go ask Disney about that.
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(23 of 72)
Re: The BSB - highest failure rate in recorded history?
May 5, 2012 09:06 AM
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When I started reading and posting on the BSB I was a newbie. I was too ignorant to even know how ignorant I was. The only thing I had going for me was that I used to be a journalist and so I knew how to put a sentence together. I think the generous souls on the BSB made me into a bookseller. So I dunno Joe, but I might be third on your list.
I let a couple of trolls chase me away from here, which was probably cowardly but I had more than enough stress on my plate at the time. I have checked back from time to time in a lurkish sort of way, though, so I continue to learn.

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