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The BSB - highest failure rate in recorded history?

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The BSB - highest failure rate in recorded history?
May 4, 2012 04:15 PM

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I've been here ten years.  Okay... not ten years... nine years, eleven months and about thirty-six hours.  In that time, 21,411 people have come to the BSB professing the unbridled desire to be booksellers.  They come from the corners of the country, from the cities and the farms - 28,446 of them in ten years - with the burning desire to be booksellers.  We see them here every day; they drive to the BSB with all they own in hundred dollar cars, with their hopes and dreams rattling around in a brown paper keyboard.  The faces are new each day, but the stories are always the same - 33,508 stories - all different, but all the same.  Cowboys, drunks, Christians, Catholic and squirrels - 36,988 of them - all wanting the same thing.

 

In those ten years - of those nearly 41,000 posters, only two have become booksellers - Melanie and lyceumdreams (whose name we still don't know, despire his having been here 24 hours a day for several decades).  Two, out of more than fifty thousand.  We are abject failures.

 

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The BSB - highest failure rate in recorded history?

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The BSB - highest failure rate in recorded history?
May 4, 2012 04:15 PM

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I've been here ten years.  Okay... not ten years... nine years, eleven months and about thirty-six hours.  In that time, 21,411 people have come to the BSB professing the unbridled desire to be booksellers.  They come from the corners of the country, from the cities and the farms - 28,446 of them in ten years - with the burning desire to be booksellers.  We see them here every day; they drive to the BSB with all they own in hundred dollar cars, with their hopes and dreams rattling around in a brown paper keyboard.  The faces are new each day, but the stories are always the same - 33,508 stories - all different, but all the same.  Cowboys, drunks, Christians, Catholic and squirrels - 36,988 of them - all wanting the same thing.

 

In those ten years - of those nearly 41,000 posters, only two have become booksellers - Melanie and lyceumdreams (whose name we still don't know, despire his having been here 24 hours a day for several decades).  Two, out of more than fifty thousand.  We are abject failures.

 

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(48 of 72)
Re: The BSB - highest failure rate in recorded history?
Jul 29, 2012 10:29 PM

******************** BUMP time! ********************

(49 of 72)
Re: The BSB - highest failure rate in recorded history?
Jul 29, 2012 11:28 PM

This is a hard business. Probably it is not the only hard business, but this one is hard. Everytime the political climate changes so does the business. Sometimes it seems that if there is a passing of gas on the other side of the globe the buying pattern changes.  Needing to be able to sit on inventory, have working capital, get through the slow times, etc.  Having time to learn while selling and selling while taking the time to learn, and there is a lot to know.

 

It seems to me that there needs to be a great appreciation of books to stay doing this. There is a difference between the person who enjoys reading books and the appreciation of the book in its entirety.

 

I don't believe this thread offensive in any way, but really a thoughtful reflection of a period of time.  To move forward there must be a looking back--not to dwell in the past but use the past as a tool for the future.

m.

(50 of 72)
Re: The BSB - highest failure rate in recorded history?
Jul 29, 2012 11:53 PM
Thank you, Mary, for the excellent abservations!

M.

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(51 of 72)
Re: The BSB - highest failure rate in recorded history?
Jul 30, 2012 07:20 AM

I started here as a way to make extra money for medical bills.  I sell a few books, but still consider myself an amateur.  I learn quite a bit from members of this board, and plan to stay until eBay kicks me off (or I gain my sanity).

(52 of 72)
Re: The BSB - highest failure rate in recorded history?
Jul 30, 2012 07:23 AM

I haven't read then entire thread. This has probably been posted all ready...but just in case...

 

 

Nearly 41,000 people who love books enough to post here isn't failure.

(53 of 72)
Re: The BSB - highest failure rate in recorded history?
Jul 30, 2012 10:48 AM

Joe interesting thoughts from a rag dealer ( or maybe a paper recycler ) :)

 

as most people learn to sell books by buying and selling books . The board does offer some sage and tymly advise such as Mint is a herb, not book description .

 

As a devote drunk cowboy christian that entertained joining the Catholic Church and believes in the holy catholic church  and thinks tree rats taste like chicken  I just had to reply

all in good fun!

 

 

 

(54 of 72)
Re: The BSB - highest failure rate in recorded history?
Jul 30, 2012 01:48 PM

I like this thread. I am glad to see it on the first page once again.

 

There are so many wonderful responses. There are so many different viewpoints.

 

I reread the original post and the many replies. I thought about it a bit. I think I maybe understand the original intent a bit more.

 

And I will say this: All of you may never know what life you touched, what bookselling or other business you helped to foster, what learning you encouraged. You may never know that you "lit a fire" and created that "burning desire" coupled with the tenacity to succeed.

 

So--- keep teaching. Keep doing what you all do. Keep being successful and sharing your expertise. Your knowledge will touch someone, but you may not know when it happens.

 

I am always amazed by the wonderful sellers I see here.  

 

Some folks will come here and read your wisdom without ever mentioning the fact that they read what you wrote. Some will question, some will move on to other things. Some will become successful because of what they found. You may never know.

 

(55 of 72)
Re: The BSB - highest failure rate in recorded history?
Jul 31, 2012 10:14 PM

Everything tastes like chicken. Even squirrels.

 

Goodnite, Irene.

m.

(56 of 72)
Re: The BSB - highest failure rate in recorded history?
Aug 1, 2012 06:26 AM

Even roasted troll.


Life begins at the end of your comfort Zone.

(57 of 72)
Re: The BSB - highest failure rate in recorded history?
Aug 1, 2012 06:36 AM

Use Mint when preparing Roasted Troll or with many Squirrel recipes.

 

Liz

(58 of 72)
Re: The BSB - highest failure rate in recorded history?
Aug 1, 2012 08:18 AM

Are there any chicken types that cook up delicious with fresh basil?  We grow our own in the summer and SO delicious!  Rosemary and a few others, too.  Unfortunately, just about any fresh herb other than parsley or cilantro in the winter is pricey--coming in little hard plastic containers for 3 or 4 bucks each.

(59 of 72)
Re: The BSB - highest failure rate in recorded history?
Aug 1, 2012 08:22 AM

Who said I taste like squirrel???  No! No! No No NO!

(60 of 72)
Re: The BSB - highest failure rate in recorded history?
Aug 1, 2012 08:23 AM

oKAY. I quit for the day. It is supposed to say, Who said I taste like chicken?

 

I hang my head in embarrassment.

 

(61 of 72)
Re: The BSB - highest failure rate in recorded history?
Aug 1, 2012 08:35 AM

I like it the way it reads.

 

I can imagine that squirrel thinks he tastes like prime rib.

 

Liz

 

PS I grow sage. Great in chicken recipes and it winters over down here in Georgia. Not sure how it would do up in the far north.:)

(62 of 72)
Re: The BSB - highest failure rate in recorded history?
Aug 1, 2012 01:22 PM

Ottawa Canada isn't the Far North, but sage grows just fine here. I also have perennial (or selfsowing) mint, chives, oregano and tarragon. Plus Egyptian Onions.  And the temprature here has been over 30 every day for the past month. (Dont' know what that is in Fahrenheit.) Its pretty warm in Yellowknife today too.

I'll never open a bookstore, even in a city with three universities and two colleges, one of the highest levels of education in Canada and a solid economy based on government and high-tech, the costs for running a store are too high. Our family business (DH is a stamp dealer) costs over $9000 a month to run before wages for a staff of 10, and I doubt many independent bookstores could handle that. Although our next door neighbour is a chain bookstore and seems to have done fine for over 40 years in the same location.

But online selling reduces my overhead and increases my customer base. I don't put enough time into it, but I am sure that I will make a decent living wage when I go full time on this in 2014.So does my banker and my accountant. Meanwhile I am turning a profit over my 7 IDs and my three other online venues.

(63 of 72)
Re: The BSB - highest failure rate in recorded history?
Aug 1, 2012 02:29 PM

 

 

The Far North, for a Southerner like me, is any land above the Mason-Dixon Line.:^O

 

I have a mint plant that has been growing in the same spot in the yard for 25 years. Can't kill it.

 

Liz

 

PS I once knew this fellow who thought anything outside of Georgia was a foreign land. :)

 

 

(64 of 72)
Re: The BSB - highest failure rate in recorded history?
Aug 1, 2012 10:40 PM

1. What are Egyptian onions?

 

2. your neighbor IS a chain bookstore?  That I would like to see!

(65 of 72)
Re: The BSB - highest failure rate in recorded history?
Aug 1, 2012 11:14 PM

Evening, Mary (what are you doing up at this hour of the night morning?!):-x

 

Don't know about the bookstore.

 

But Egyptian Onions are often called Egyptian Walking Onions or even Tree Onions. Super easy and fun to grow.

 

More info here -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_onion

(66 of 72)
Re: The BSB - highest failure rate in recorded history?
Aug 2, 2012 06:04 AM

Thanks, Elyn!

(67 of 72)
Re: The BSB - highest failure rate in recorded history?
Aug 2, 2012 11:37 AM

Can I be considered a bookseller if I went to work for a book store and list for them....elsewhere?

 

Got my start here 7 yrs ago--first lurking, then learning to spar online with cantankerous booksellers, and finally  learning just how dirty my hands could get...

 

Still consider myself a novice, but half of what I know came from following squirrly bunny trails from here. Certainly kept me sane a few winters here in the "far north." 

(68 of 72)
Re: The BSB - highest failure rate in recorded history?
Aug 2, 2012 01:00 PM

Success?  Don't know - I started here to learn to represent the books honestly and sell honorably.  The generousity of other boardies has made that possible with ruffles anf riffs I'd never imagined.. 

 

I'm on a bookselling sabbatical and currently engrossed in digging fairly sophisticated holes in the ground,  but I still drop in and take copious notes for a blazing return. 

 

Success?  Sales - maybe not so much.  Acquisitions - OH YOU BETCH YOUR BIPEE!

 

With thanks to all who keep sharing the education.

 

 

(69 of 72)
Re: The BSB - highest failure rate in recorded history?
Aug 2, 2012 01:53 PM

Nice to see you, Riley & Dedra

 

Don't be such strangers!

(70 of 72)
Re: The BSB - highest failure rate in recorded history?
Aug 2, 2012 03:26 PM

Okay I thought I would chime in. I first discovered eBay after reading an article in the Wall Street Journal. (That was back in the day when this was still a good newspaper before Murdoch bought it.)

 

I noodled around and bought a book or two before I started to sell stuff. I started off around 1999 selling vintage magazines primariy Rolling Stone and MAD because I had saved long runs of both publications from the early sixities onward. Didn't know what I was doing and priced stuff way to low but had some pretty interesting results on some of those issues, primarily the early Rolling Stones, which ended up in bidding wars that drove the prices relatively high. (That was back when ebay used to email you whenever someone bid on one of your auctions. Remember that.)

 

At some point in time I started to sell books too, some out of my own collection but mostly what I picked up at book sales mostly the larger ones like the old Brandeis sales here in suburban Chicago and the Newberry Library Sale.

 

Been mostly selling books and magazines since then. Took a year off a couple of years back when I was selling my brother-in-laws collection of original, hi-grade underground comics. I had been selling undergound comics right along too.

 

Have picked up quite a few good tips from the board and have used the ask questions about any book a couple of times when I had some items that almost defied identification. One of the best tips, can't remember who it was, but they recommended creating a second eBay ID for purchasing. Great idea as I tend to buy a lot of stuff on eBay that I turn around and sell for a nifty profit.

 

Things have slowed down recently but I have stayed on eBay and have just started to sell my childhood coin collection which has kept sales active. (Really interesting to observe the difference between selling collectibles like coins and selling books. ) I have actually started to clean out shelves and cupboards to find more stuff to sell. My oldest son is getting married next year and would like to accumulate a few extra dollars to cover some of those costs.

 

I guess the biggest difference between what I do and other sellers might be that I do not make my living doing this. I work full time and for a long time had total responsiblity for several magazines which kept me exceedingly busy. Now I am working in the corporate world but take almost nothing home.

 

The bookselling community on eBay is great and there is really nothing else like it here.

 

Michael -- follow me on twitter #Bestpaperboy

(71 of 72)
Re: The BSB - highest failure rate in recorded history?
Aug 3, 2012 12:51 PM

Maybe, it is fine the way it is.

 

I personally miss satnrose, kw, and others.


Isaiah 41:10 Fear thou not; for I am with thee: be not dismayed; for I am thy God:
I will strengthen thee; yea, I will help thee; yea, I will uphold thee with the right hand of my righteousness.

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