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IRS taxes to come to Paypal & EBAY January 2011
Nov 15, 2010 06:39 AM
Once again the US Government is controling how much money people can make on the side by imposing TAXES on E-BAY purchases through PAYPAL.You can't have over 200 payments on paypal or the government will get you for taxes,nor can you make over $20,000 in a year.BIG BROTHER is now controling just how much the poor person can make selling USED items on EBAY.EBAY,an online flea-market sort o speak.
This is just another example of how the BIG BROTHER squashes the little guy,yes,you can be a entrapenure,and run a small business from your home,but BIG BROTHER,in all it's patheticness and dowright GREED now wants US,the little guys,to pay for their misgivings and over spending.
I for one have been enjoying selling on EBAY for quite some time,and now,that must come to an end.Why,EBAY won't even let us accept money orders from people,because they want those absorbent FEES from us for PayPal,plus EBAY wants us to pay a "percentage" of what we get for an item,so with all those fees and percentages being taken out,and now,BIG BROTHER wants us to PAY EVEN MORE of our hard earned money,it just isn't worth it anymore to sell on EBAY.
I for one will be seeking other,less obtrusive selling avenues,other than EBAY to sell my items,if not,I just won't sell anything again.
I refuse to be victimized by BIG BROTHER or anyone else.
EBAY and PayPal will be out of business within a year or less,because I feel I am not the only one outraged at this disgusting turn of events!
Comments welcome to me by other sellers at swordsbane@aol.com.
I'd like to hear from you.
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IRS taxes to come to Paypal & EBAY January 2011

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IRS taxes to come to Paypal & EBAY January 2011
Nov 15, 2010 06:39 AM
Once again the US Government is controling how much money people can make on the side by imposing TAXES on E-BAY purchases through PAYPAL.You can't have over 200 payments on paypal or the government will get you for taxes,nor can you make over $20,000 in a year.BIG BROTHER is now controling just how much the poor person can make selling USED items on EBAY.EBAY,an online flea-market sort o speak.
This is just another example of how the BIG BROTHER squashes the little guy,yes,you can be a entrapenure,and run a small business from your home,but BIG BROTHER,in all it's patheticness and dowright GREED now wants US,the little guys,to pay for their misgivings and over spending.
I for one have been enjoying selling on EBAY for quite some time,and now,that must come to an end.Why,EBAY won't even let us accept money orders from people,because they want those absorbent FEES from us for PayPal,plus EBAY wants us to pay a "percentage" of what we get for an item,so with all those fees and percentages being taken out,and now,BIG BROTHER wants us to PAY EVEN MORE of our hard earned money,it just isn't worth it anymore to sell on EBAY.
I for one will be seeking other,less obtrusive selling avenues,other than EBAY to sell my items,if not,I just won't sell anything again.
I refuse to be victimized by BIG BROTHER or anyone else.
EBAY and PayPal will be out of business within a year or less,because I feel I am not the only one outraged at this disgusting turn of events!
Comments welcome to me by other sellers at swordsbane@aol.com.
I'd like to hear from you.
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by lostnfound101 (7632 ) View Listings
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Re: IRS taxes to come to Paypal & EBAY January 2011
Nov 15, 2010 07:03 AM
They will tax you or simply give you a 1099MISC income statement as they should.


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Re: IRS taxes to come to Paypal & EBAY January 2011
Nov 15, 2010 10:00 AM
If you doing more than $20K it's probably not a hobby selling used stuff out of your garage. That would be a business and subject to take anyway. There's really no change here other than making it harder for people to cheat their taxes.
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Re: IRS taxes to come to Paypal & EBAY January 2011
Nov 15, 2010 10:01 AM
take - tax
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Re: IRS taxes to come to Paypal & EBAY January 2011
Nov 15, 2010 10:38 AM
not if you make more than $20,000,,, if you do more than $20,000 in sales,,,,,

I'm going to argue that I was bartering with cash as a medium since I'm unemployed and Items I sell are from personal collections.

theres a few other posts about this on other boards,,

I use my paypal card for all postage, supplies and business,,,, I'm using the term loosely,,,,, purchases.

Print paypal balance Jan1,
Print paypal balance Dec 31,,,,

If its more you made money, the rest is unprovable and the IRS has to prove things these days.
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Re: IRS taxes to come to Paypal & EBAY January 2011
Nov 15, 2010 10:52 AM
not if you make more than $20,000,,, if you do more than $20,000 in sales,,,,,

I'm going to argue that I was bartering with cash as a medium since I'm unemployed and Items I sell are from personal collections.

theres a few other posts about this on other boards,,

I use my paypal card for all postage, supplies and business,,,, I'm using the term loosely,,,,, purchases.

Print paypal balance Jan1,
Print paypal balance Dec 31,,,,

If its more you made money, the rest is unprovable and the IRS has to prove things these days.


The IRS does not have to prove you did not make a profit. You do.

The IRS just has to prove you have income or assets that you could not have on the reported income.

The IRS will tax you on every penny you receive unless you can prove you have a qualified deduction.

The change is not in what is taxable. Most of your ebay sales should be reported somewhere on your return any way.

The only thing that is changing is now the IRS requires ebay and pay pal to report the sales so they can make sure you are reporting what you were suposed to be doing any way.
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Re: IRS taxes to come to Paypal & EBAY January 2011
Nov 15, 2010 11:48 AM
Once again the US Government is controling how much money people can make on the side by imposing TAXES on E-BAY purchases through PAYPAL.You can't have over 200 payments on paypal or the government will get you for taxes,nor can you make over $20,000 in a year.BIG BROTHER is now controling just how much the poor person can make selling USED items on EBAY.EBAY,an online flea-market sort o speak.

You can make as much money as you want. In fact, the government wants you to make lots of money. They also want to make sure you are paying the taxes that you legally owe. Those taxes aren't new.

I for one have been enjoying selling on EBAY for quite some time,and now,that must come to an end.

Why? Because the IRS will find out that you have not been reporting all your income? That seems like throwing out the baby with the bath water.

I refuse to be victimized by BIG BROTHER or anyone else.

An admirable sentiment but how does that apply here?

EBAY and PayPal will be out of business within a year or less,because I feel I am not the only one outraged at this disgusting turn of events!

This isn't about eBay at all. It isn't even about PayPal. It is about all payment processors. It is a federal law. eBay and PayPal did not cause. You did. How? By not paying legally owed taxes on the profit you made selling.

I already claim all my revenue. Having it reported to the IRS won't change anything.


Faerie
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Re: IRS taxes to come to Paypal & EBAY January 2011
Nov 15, 2010 03:42 PM
I don't think it's a matter of the government controlling how much money you make, only you have control over that. You make the money, you owe the taxes. It's pretty simple fact of running a business, here in the U.S. or many other countries.

I claim my income from eBay sales, so nothing new for me either.
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Re: IRS taxes to come to Paypal & EBAY January 2011
Nov 15, 2010 04:04 PM
I would argue that we should all be mad about paying taxes WE OWE but.....

I like going to the bathroom INDOORS and want that and a few other services/infrastructures my tax dollars go towards keeping up to continue!

And I agree with Fairie.....I feel you are just upset cause you will get caught not paying on what you should have been paying for all this time.

By the way....I was once in a barter service club...that is taxed as well. Bad argument.


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Re: IRS taxes to come to Paypal & EBAY January 2011
Nov 15, 2010 08:40 PM
and now,BIG BROTHER wants us to PAY EVEN MORE of our hard earned money

Sorry, but income from garage sales, yard sales, and even bartering has been taxable for decades. Do not confuse taxable with enforced. The IRS is smart enough to realize that sending a $50,000 a year agent to collect taxes on a $500 once-a-year garage sale is stupid and not cost effective, so they don't. But that doesn't mean they won't asses income taxes if they have proof of income that is not showing up on your Form 1040.

And it's not even the government you should be mad at!! The IRS didn't make the law -- they only enforce the laws that are on the books. The law was created by our elected officials - US Senators and US Representatives, and signed into law by our previous President.

But you can't blame Congress and the President... they didn't dream this stuff up... they just bowed to the wishes of their constituents -- the people who voted them into office. Which would be you and/or your neighbors... and the folks down the street... and the next street over... and downtown... and...well...just about everyone.

Or at least everyone who takes the time to VOTE.

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Re: IRS taxes to come to Paypal & EBAY January 2011
Nov 15, 2010 10:26 PM
You mean we are BIG BROTHER?


Faerie
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Re: IRS taxes to come to Paypal & EBAY January 2011
Nov 16, 2010 05:50 AM
As Pogo Possum said, "We have met the enemy and he is us."


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Re: IRS taxes to come to Paypal & EBAY January 2011
Nov 19, 2010 06:59 PM
THE IRS WILL PUT EBAY OUT OF BUSINESS, THEN THE WILL GET NO TAXES, FROM EBAY OR THE SELLERS
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Re: IRS taxes to come to Paypal & EBAY January 2011
Nov 19, 2010 07:01 PM
I HOPE EBAY NOTIFIES THE SELLERS WHEN THEY GET TO 199 SELLS AND/or TO $19,995
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Re: IRS taxes to come to Paypal & EBAY January 2011
Nov 19, 2010 10:19 PM
eBay will not issue a 1099. Payment processors are the ones subject to the new tax regulation.


Faerie
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Re: IRS taxes to come to Paypal & EBAY January 2011
Nov 21, 2010 10:59 AM
the rules on taxation are not changing at all. some of us will simply get a statement of sales that have occurred. the taxes and generous deductions remain.
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Re: IRS taxes to come to Paypal & EBAY January 2011
Nov 22, 2010 05:48 AM
ebay will be out of business by june 2011
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Re: IRS taxes to come to Paypal & EBAY January 2011
Nov 22, 2010 10:09 AM
ebay will be out of business by june 2011

I've seen similar predictions since I started selling on eBay. Obviously none have come true yet.


Faerie
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Re: IRS taxes to come to Paypal & EBAY January 2011
Nov 23, 2010 10:32 PM
George Bush signed this into law July 2008.
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Re: IRS taxes to come to Paypal & EBAY January 2011
Nov 24, 2010 11:09 PM
I could be wrong. But, how can the money you make at a garage sale be taxable? If you are selling lets say baby clothes in your garage sale for a loss because they are used. Then you should be able to claim a loss, right?
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Re: IRS taxes to come to Paypal & EBAY January 2011
Nov 26, 2010 07:38 AM
If you need tax-related information, it's always a good idea to start w/the IRS, since they are the proverbial "horse's mouth." Anyone who's not sure about where they stand (is it a hobby or a business?) should go to the IRS website page Online Auction Seller Hobby versus a Business. You'll find a video, fact sheets, etc. Additionally, the IRS site has an Online Auction Sellers Tax Center for even more information. Finally, check out the IRS Small Business and Self-Employed Tax Center. B-) Sallie




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Re: IRS taxes to come to Paypal & EBAY January 2011
Dec 17, 2010 07:35 PM
"Faerie", I just love to hear holier-than-thou people like you spout off like you do. I'm sure you do everything right and proper in your mind, you don't do anything wrong at all and never have, right?

The argument here is about whether it's right for ebay/paypal to report our information to big brother, just as the fight going on where they are trying to force amazon and every other online or catalog vendor to do. Government already intrudes in our lives far too much. They tax us when we earn money, they tax us when we spend it, they tax what we own after we've bought it, even when it gets worn out or we don't need it anymore and want to sell it (at a loss) they want to tax it again. If we save the money they tax it, they tax any interest our savings may earn, if we then draw it out and spend it, the tax cycle starts again. The government taxes every dollar multiple times, and then are amazed that the economy is failing! Then add on non-tax taxes, such automobile registration, mandatory inspections, and licensing fees. Situation even worse...

Then, to top it off, they waste it on idiotic pursuits and come back with their hand out again, taking more and more when there's nothing left to give. Robin Hood, where have you gone?

You are such a big supporter of the gov't that you must be one of their "un-fire-able" clones, er I mean employees. That or you're way better off than the great majority of eBay'ers that are trying to make a little extra cash to pay the bills and scrape by any way they can. And yeah, check those bills we have to pay, there's gov't tax in there somewhere too.

Just keep spouting about how good the gov't is to you and remember that when they start installing video cameras in your house to make sure you aren't doing something they think you shouldn't do. Hear that noise? It's the jack-booted thugs marching up to your door...
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Re: IRS taxes to come to Paypal & EBAY January 2011
Dec 18, 2010 10:16 AM
"Faerie", I just love to hear holier-than-thou people like you spout off like you do. I'm sure you do everything right and proper in your mind, you don't do anything wrong at all and never have, right?

The argument here is about whether it's right for ebay/paypal to report our information to big brother, just as the fight going on where they are trying to force amazon and every other online or catalog vendor to do. Government already intrudes in our lives far too much. They tax us when we earn money, they tax us when we spend it, they tax what we own after we've bought it, even when it gets worn out or we don't need it anymore and want to sell it (at a loss) they want to tax it again. If we save the money they tax it, they tax any interest our savings may earn, if we then draw it out and spend it, the tax cycle starts again. The government taxes every dollar multiple times, and then are amazed that the economy is failing! Then add on non-tax taxes, such automobile registration, mandatory inspections, and licensing fees. Situation even worse...

Then, to top it off, they waste it on idiotic pursuits and come back with their hand out again, taking more and more when there's nothing left to give. Robin Hood, where have you gone?

You are such a big supporter of the gov't that you must be one of their "un-fire-able" clones, er I mean employees. That or you're way better off than the great majority of eBay'ers that are trying to make a little extra cash to pay the bills and scrape by any way they can. And yeah, check those bills we have to pay, there's gov't tax in there somewhere too.

Just keep spouting about how good the gov't is to you and remember that when they start installing video cameras in your house to make sure you aren't doing something they think you shouldn't do. Hear that noise? It's the jack-booted thugs marching up to your door...


Apparently there has been a post deleted from this thread, or you have completely missed the point...

Faerie has at no point defended either the government's tax policies or the means in question with which they hope to enforce them. He/She has merely pointed out that this has nothing to do with ebay & PayPal, & surely will not be the end of either. Frankly, from reading posts here & far more so on the Power Seller boards, (where dozens of posters have come forward on threads with hundreds of posts basically saying "now I'm going to have to pay taxes!"), I'd concern myself far more with whatever else the IRS might be doing.

If I were the IRS, I'd have someone reading these world readable ebay forums (or better yet, a bot collecting relevant posts), & building a list of seller IDs to subpoena from ebay.

What is being debated here is a non-event from an ebay/paypal perspective. Sellers publicly ranting about how tee'd off they are that they may have to pay taxes, on the other hand...


(so how about we kill these threads, before the IRS gets really smart;))
Mark
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Re: IRS taxes to come to Paypal & EBAY January 2011
Dec 19, 2010 12:18 AM
I have nothing to fear from the IRS, anything I owe I pay. That doesn't mean I like the way they do business, or the way the government wastes all they take from us. If they want to come after me, they can bring it on.

My point with Faerie is the tone of the posts that tries to paint anyone who doesn't agree with the policy as being dishonest or trying to get away with something. Many of us simply want the government to back off and give us just a little freedom.

When the economy is so bad and people are trying all they can to scrape by, that is clearly NOT the time to start going after things like flea markets, garage sales, and eBay. Oh well, after they stop everybody from making anything, we can all live on welfare and let Big Brother foot the bill.
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