I've recently found out (actually, I already knew it), that anything you say on the discussion board can get you booted.....anything.

Two reasons for that. 1) Someone who doesn't like you can report several of your posts within a short period of time, posts that in no way violate the rules and number 2) the Pinks won't even look at the posts before putting them all together and sanctioning you.

There could be a number 3 there too but, I doubt that's the cause. Some (and I did say "some") pinks are either young or just don't know how to read people at all, they simply don't know what they are doing. That, or they need the job and are seeing what they want to see in order to say, we're doing something to earn our money. Again, that stuff is doubtful but, possible.

Automation doesn't work on a discussion board, not the way Ebay uses it.

Also, you will get no help here on issues because the pinks know there is no excuse for what they do but Ebay is going to make them do it anyway. So, that coupled with the fact we are no longer stupid enough to buy spin, what would the point be?

That's why John has disappeared, the pinks and Griff and it ain't us that caused it.

One thing I've also noticed is, the boards did pretty well until John may have stirred thing up. Can't say for sure it was his fault but it sure got nasty around SC for awhile right after he came on board, then when every thing calmed down, and things were going just fine, he slaps a new, no OT rule on SC. No idea what that was about.

Anyway, at least no one is here insulting our intelligence anymore, gotta give me that.

I recently read that some Ebay workers feel we are a bunch of conspiracy theorists and maybe there are a few but, I think that's clearly understandable considering the circumstances. However, I think that is something they like to throw around as a defense and to help keep themselves in the dark over what's really happened to Ebay as a whole. They never bother thinking what has caused that issue. Some Ebay workers hide behind any little thing they see us doing wrong but refuse to see the big picture because the big picture is EBAY and how badly they treat people.......it's an undeniable fact.

Sorry if that was OT or a little bouncy on the subject matter but, just a few things I wanted to get said.

Thanks, Lucky. That's probably good for me, that way I ddin't make anyone too mad at me with that last post.

Did something happen of any interest, or did he just give up on us?

, gotta give me that

Should have been, gotta give em' that

Thanks for the update.

And what's worse than worthless is that he actually got my/our hopes up, even after we could see what was going on right off the bat. I guess wishful thinking can make the most cynical of posters not think straight.

From what you say, at least he learned something and has more of a grasp of reality than he did when he started..

I'd like to think his intentions were good and then reality crept in and ruined it all but, I don't know.

Plant, what bothers me the most is that John came here and worked so very hard to gain our trust.  The phone calls, the sticking in through threads that were thousands of posts long, the continued assurances of how "passionate" he was about the community.  He fought long and hard for our trust, and when he got it, he basically gave us the finger because it got hard.  A real man, someone who was truly passionate about the boards would have, at the very least, come here and said he'd failed.  If he had done that, I would still respect him.  Now, not so much.

See my page for frequently used eBay discussion board acronyms.

We are still "allowed" to post OT threads... and we can go off on tangents on any thread.

Disagreements are still thought to be interpersonal disputes...which is really dumb.

Bon mot boogie

If you want to talk about pizzing someone off, imagine my reaction when they announced no OT on SC, then locked ONLY PLU, and none of the other OT threads.  PLU, for Pete's sake!  If it was a person, it would be community personified.  Pizzed doesn't even come close.

See my page for frequently used eBay discussion board acronyms.

If you want to talk about pizzing someone off, imagine my reaction when they announced no OT on SC, then locked ONLY PLU, and none of the other OT threads.  PLU, for Pete's sake!  If it was a person, it would be community personified.  Pizzed doesn't even come close.

That pizzed me off and I didn't really post on the thread. John even ok'd that thread from the start. I sometimes think things are done here just to show "We have control and you don't" That's not going to keep *anyone* in line, it only makes posters angry and makes things worse. Or that is their only purpose, to Pizz us all off.

What I'm trying to say is there simply was no good reason to pull that or any OT on SC, nothing was out of hand. And I'm sure it was for the sake of experimentation to see if they could quiet things down and save a buck on moderation but, people, by nature, don't like being experimented with and things like that cause more trouble than they could possibly prevent in the long run.

Bottom line, they are trying to run the boards like they do Ebay, with minimal effort and all automation. Seems like they'd learn, it doesn't work there and it won't work here.

Burns, "another galaxy" kind of explains a lot of what goes on around here.

Examples of OT thread topics allowed (and even pinned without asking)

Now that was the good ol' days. the days when everyone was relaxed and worked together, we had no reason to do otherwise. Everyone was happy.

Maybe the pinks are trying to punish is for being angry with Ebay and they somehow have managed to surmise this is all our fault.

OT's here have always been nothing but a good thing. One thinks all kinds of stuff when someone does something as odd as getting rid of one of the almost non existent things that make people happy around here so, I have to wonder if they actually think we will calm down with the Ebay bashing with expectations of getting OT's back?

Yep, sounds crazy but around here you never know. All they'll do is make things worse, I mean they just gave folks something else to bash.

That or maybe the purpose is to get rid of some of the outspoken regulars? You know, instead of outright booting them, treat them like the sellers and make things to where they will want to leave on there own? Make things more boring?

Gotta say, some of these people are so angry with Ebay, the harder they try to get rid of them the more they will want to stay.

Once again, we didn't start the fire, Ebay did and it's up to Ebay to put it out.

Mudsharks maybe, any realatio to mudpuppies?  Certainly NOT bottom feeding catfish.

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