Are ALL 4's the Same ? in Category-Specific Boards in Community

Last Post Nov 4, 2009 1:23 AM by: *_dash_*

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Are ALL 4's the Same ?

Nov 3, 2009 2:16 PM

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Hello - thanks for Looking --

Do the Top Row Keyboard Numbers and the Keypad Numbers ALWAYS represent the same Value ?

My Question here is in reation to Passwords - Macro Shortcuts etc .

I know some sites sign in's are case sensitive but not sure about Numbers and the keyboard location they are entered from.
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In Excel - when allowing the Autofill feature that if you have cells containing ABCDE - FGHIJKL that a new cell that you enter AV then backspace one Character and replace the V with a B so it now shows AB and Continue on CDE etc, will not apply the autofill. It Registers the Keystrokes and not just the Final Value shown.

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Re: Are ALL 4's the Same ?

Nov 3, 2009 5:14 PM

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The 4 on the top keyboard row is exactly the same as the 4 on the keypad.

Re: Are ALL 4's the Same ?

Nov 3, 2009 6:50 PM

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Thanks

I now know when Assigning shortcuts to Macros that Control + Keyboard 4 is Different that Control + Keypad 4.

The Reason I ask, one site that I sign in on has something strange happening.

I realize that I probably could avoid it by just carefully changing my password.

When I signed up, I chose - something like xyz123abc.

I entered it Once and then Copied and pasted it in a Second Time - then I pasted it into a file for the Record.

Now when I go to the site and sign in -- I cannot seem to type any combination in that works, even though it appears xyz123abc. When I go to my Recorded File and see it, it appears xyz123abc and works fine if I copy and paste it in.

I'm thinking that maybe I used Keyboard 1 Keyboard 2 and Keypad 3 ( for some reason ) or had a backspace in correcting a error in the abc ( typed abv backspace c to get abc ) or something of that sort.

I always hope I can learn something from these things -

Thanks

Re: Are ALL 4's the Same ?

Nov 3, 2009 8:06 PM

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... Woooops,

Yes, the keyboard numbers are different than the keypad numbers.

The 4 on the keyboard sends a '25' (hex) code and the keypad 4 sends a '6B' (hex) code.

The application software would decide whether to treat both 4s the same or different. The 'copy and paste' step could have treated them the same or not; and the pasting to a file could have treated them the same or not.

There is another issue with the first copy and paste. You may have inadvertently copied something, maybe a space, before or after the visible password.
Try entering the password as "xyz123abc (space)" or "(space) xyz123abc" and see if that works.

Good luck, and always type in the password both times when creating a password.

Re: Are ALL 4's the Same ?

Nov 3, 2009 8:42 PM

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Tried the Spaces - but no luck -- So I carefully changed the password - and now it works fine.

It doesnt even seem to mind if I Capitalize the First Letter etc.

Thanks for the Thoughts --

Learned something again today - WHoo Hoo

Re: Are ALL 4's the Same ?

Nov 3, 2009 9:49 PM

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Well it looks like you just worked out what I'd used my macro program to try to determine, only you worked it out better. It's help files refer to the 4 key as simply being the "4" key while it refers to the other as Numpad4.

So now I'll delete all the rest of the typing I did....... :_|

:_|

Re: Are ALL 4's the Same ?

Nov 3, 2009 10:39 PM

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Thanks Dash --

I just got impatient to go ahead and actually fix something.

I thought it was a pretty sure bet that a Password Change would fix it.

I had the need to see something work -
I'm so frustrated over my other Ebay Dilemma that I have Worked on for Months that Seems Unsolvable - ( the IMG / img thing ). Ebay Help and Turbo Lister Help have each Given up on me and refering me to the Photo / HTML board. Unfortunately the participants have lost the will to go on. The Deadline for a 30 day run of my store stuff with shipping time buffer for Christmas Delivery is fast approaching and with almost 2000 items sitting waiting for a fix, I'm out of time. I guess I will start preparing a small enough group of stuff that I can manage and Correct as I Syncronize.

Hope you have a good season -

Re: Are ALL 4's the Same ?

Nov 4, 2009 1:03 AM

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Have you tried removing all the crud from your image links?

For example, instead of

(a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank") (img src="http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f19/Mstuf/SunshinyDaysVHS001.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket") (/a)

Try
(img src="http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f19/Mstuf/SunshinyDaysVHS001.jpg")

That still should display the image on the page, and it might stop the code from being broken. You could probably leave the alt text in if you want to.

I replaced < & > in the above example with ( & ) as I can't remember the code to get < & > to display rather than be used as code.
I'll post this in your other thread too in case you don't come back here.
Sorry about the multiple posts. I'll get rid of them. I was trying to edit with the cat walking on my desk and something went a little wrong.

Re: Are ALL 4's the Same ?

Nov 4, 2009 1:23 AM

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I just noticed something else.
target="_blank"
The underscore isn't normal is it? wouldn't it usually be?
target="blank"

I just tried it and the image still displays either way, but maybe the underscore is confusing Turbo Lister?

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