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****Safe Bidding Advice for Computer Buyers****
Oct 11, 2003 06:34 PM
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****Safe Bidding Advice for Computer Buyers****

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****Safe Bidding Advice for Computer Buyers****
Oct 11, 2003 06:34 PM
If you have some good advice to assist EBAY buyers and sellers in their quest to get a fair, scam-free deal, post it, or a link to it, here! I know some of you regulars have some great Me pages set up, so share them here, and maybe we can help keep a few people from being ripped off. Click the banner to go to my advice page.
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by qingeo (14 ) View Listings
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Re: ****Safe Bidding Advice for Computer Buyers****
Mar 23, 2009 08:52 PM
To invisiblemillionaire:

First...you must learn how to spell to be credible and/or believable in your business.

Second...

"We don't claim to be anything but an OPEN pc that can run any os"

Really?

Yet you have your current machine listed in Apple Computers and the fact that you've also listed it as a "HACKINTOSH" refutes your claim to be an open PC. It's bait and switch my friend.

Hey...there's room in this free market system in our country to exploit people's weakness to buy knock-offs. That's what you feedback from your costumers mean to me.

Bottom line: your MARKETING your product as a MAC CLONE. If components don't work properly, the computer HAS to get sent back to YOU and no one else outside of your network would touch it for fear of backlash.

Apple on the other hand REQUIRES any person INDEPENDENT from their system who wishes to repair and/or troubleshoot their product MUST be CERTIFIED AND QUALIFIED to do it. That means I can get certified and open my OWN store and sell Apple apart from WORKING in the actual store.

It simply means people can come to me because Apple certifies me to repair and troubleshoot their system.
(577 of 591)
Re: ****Safe Bidding Advice for Computer Buyers****
Mar 23, 2009 08:54 PM
To invisiblemillionaire:

First...you must learn how to spell to be credible and/or believable in your business.

Second...

"We don't claim to be anything but an OPEN pc that can run any os"

Really?

Yet you have your current machine listed in Apple Computers and the fact that you've also listed it as a "HACKINTOSH" refutes your claim to be an open PC. It's bait and switch my friend.

Hey...there's room in this free market system in our country to exploit people's weakness to buy knock-offs. That's what you feedback from your costumers mean to me.

Bottom line: your MARKETING your product as a MAC CLONE. If components don't work properly, the computer HAS to get sent back to YOU and no one else outside of your network would touch it for fear of backlash.

Apple on the other hand REQUIRES any person INDEPENDENT from their system who wishes to repair and/or troubleshoot their product MUST be CERTIFIED AND QUALIFIED to do it. That means I can get certified and open my OWN store and sell Apple apart from WORKING in the actual store.

It simply means people can come to me because Apple certifies me to repair and troubleshoot their system.
(578 of 591)
Re: ****Safe Bidding Advice for Computer Buyers****
Mar 23, 2009 09:22 PM
I must add something to buyers and sellers:

It's great to look for better prices and even alternatives for a new machine, but I must stress to ask yourself WHY you are buying a computer and what you really need it for. If anyone is look to buy a MAC system, but don't want to burn their pockets, there are tons of people here on eBay who are selling their previous generation machines that STILL RUN 98% of the apps that are out today.

I myself who edits graphics, STILL use my PowePC G5 as opposed to the new MAC PRO's. Do you need to get a Mac Pro? Depends on what you need it for.

Most people in my profession need those monsters because of the myriad of number crunching programs designed for high-powered systems. Plus 9 out of 10 times, those who buy these machines can either afford them, or NEED them for the above reason. If your spending your money to save on 1/4 of the price of a new MAC PRO, your best bet is to buy an iMAC (which the current ones for their price will give you a bang for your buck). They are powerful if not more powerful than your average PC desktop. Does that make Apple better than PC?

No.

Be wise and weigh your options INTELLIGENTLY when it comes to spending your hard earned money and knowing that if something goes wrong, you can be assured of the NETWORK of places that are qualified to repair your systems.

Remember...any computer be it APPLE, HP, IBM, DELL, ect...are made to last what it was built for and are made to meet or exceed your needs. If you must buy a knock-off, you might as well make one yourself.

Why?

If it screws up, you have no one else to blame. But hey...you'll learn one way or the other. Because if you buy a knock-off from anyone, your going to get what you pay for.

Period.

I'm addressing this to the average consumer and not to the person(s) who know the ins-and outs of computers.

Do your homework.
(579 of 591)
Re: ****Safe Bidding Advice for Computer Buyers****
Mar 27, 2009 08:18 PM
Last-don't buy ANY computer from ANYONE THAT DIDN'T TEST THE DAMN THING and KNOW what they are selling. I read through some of the listing and look @ the questions buyers have for sellers. Some buyers (who at the same time don't do homework) will ask specs on the system and responses I've seen from sellers are; "I think it's...blah blah blah".

You think?

You mean you don't know what your selling? If so, why should I buy from you?

Sellers don't need to know the ins and outs of what they sell, but are responsible to know that basics. I just don't trust ANY seller who post pretty pictures of their used computers (which can be Photoshopped these days) and state that they have little knowledge of what they sell.

Use your common sense and stay away from these fools.
(580 of 591)
Re: ****Safe Bidding Advice for Computer Buyers****
May 5, 2009 04:22 PM
Great advice


(581 of 591)
Re: ****Safe Bidding Advice for Computer Buyers****
May 23, 2009 05:06 PM
Hackintosh computers are on the rise again. We already had 1 faker here who was passing off "their" systems as good as a MAC. Careful! Some of these people have gutted an Apple Desktop G5 case and replaced it with PC parts and components.

Just remember what I've posted before: Your rolling the dice with these fools!
(582 of 591)
Re: ****Safe Bidding Advice for Computer Buyers****
May 25, 2009 08:47 PM
Just use common sense!
(583 of 591)
Re: ****Safe Bidding Advice for Computer Buyers****
Jun 8, 2009 09:57 AM
Thanx for that!!!!!!!!!!!
(584 of 591)
Re: ****Safe Bidding Advice for Computer Buyers****
Jun 8, 2009 12:28 PM
Hello
(585 of 591)
Re: ****Safe Bidding Advice for Computer Buyers****
Jun 24, 2009 06:25 AM
You may be interested in a documentary that was aired on PBS, by Frontline World called: "Digital Dumping Ground".

It is a documentary about how our computers are recycled by dumping our computers in 3rd world countries. This is not only an environmental disaster, but also a major security issue with countries participating in this immoral and unhealthy act.

My point to bringing up is this:

When you put your computer up for bid/sale, it would be wise for you to completely destroy your hard drive so no one will access your information.

Even some of the best erasing programs for your computers will not stop some enterprising people from gaining access to personal/financial information, to use for fraud.

This method would be cheaper than you spending untold amounts of dollars in lawyer fees to recover your credit and identity.
(586 of 591)
Re: ****Safe Bidding Advice for Computer Buyers****
Jul 11, 2009 07:28 AM
Hi, I don't know if this has been mentioned already, because I did not read the entire thread. If if has, it bears repeating.

Stay away from sellers that use stock pictures!

You want to know what the actual item looks like, not what it's supposed to look like!

I had to learn this the hard way.

Items were described as great condition, stock pictures were used and then it shows up looking like it was ran over by a truck.

Computers, like all electronics are delicate items and need to be handled as such.

Some people are not quite so gentle and if the item looks like it has been through a meat grinder on the outside, imagine what abuse the internals have taken.
(587 of 591)
Re: ****Safe Bidding Advice for Computer Buyers****
Aug 9, 2009 11:15 AM
"-Obtain and verify serial numbers, if possible. Notebooks are hot. Insanely hot. So, you need to be sure that the one you're buying isn't stolen goods. While eBay does its best to thwart sales of stolen goods, it can't track every sale of every item. I don't know if it has a verification system of its own for these things. To be safe, look it up with the computer maker. "

The above quote is from 6 years ago. Does anyone have advise on HOW to verify if a notebook is stolen?

Thanks!
(588 of 591)
Re: ****Safe Bidding Advice for Computer Buyers****
Aug 10, 2009 06:36 AM
Require products to be tested and certified tested!
(589 of 591)
Re: ****Safe Bidding Advice for Computer Buyers****
Aug 12, 2009 04:03 AM
1. I'm seeing quite a few used laptops for sale that are listed as "refurbished". Only the manufacturer or one of its certified repair facilities can refurbish a product. Ebay will not allow a seller to even use the word "new" in the listing if it is anything but BRAND NEW. Wording such as "like new" are prohibited, so why does ebay allow "refurbished" when it appears that most have just cleaned the item or maybe did a fresh install of windows.

2. Mentioned in earlier post, but very important. Don't bid on items where stock, blurry or indistinct photos are used. If you have something good to sell, you would want buyers to see that, and honest sellers will make you aware of any defects, right from the start.

3. I see some sellers putting some value on the Windows COA sticker. That COA is absolutely worthless if you don't have a compatible Windows Installation CD. You cannot use a COA with just any Windows Installation CD.
(590 of 591)
Re: ****Safe Bidding Advice for Computer Buyers****
Aug 12, 2009 02:43 PM
As always and like previously suggested, always check out the feedback. As it was said, a seller with 200,000 feedback and low-mid 90-something percent positive likely has thousands of negatives too, and you don't want to end up being another on the pile.

It all basically goes without saying but just follow the normal guidelines. Read the whole description, and be sure to ask any and all questions that you may have. And always ask and reply using ebay's messaging and not an outside email.
(591 of 591)
Re: ****Safe Bidding Advice for Computer Buyers****
Oct 30, 2010 06:53 PM
A common computer listing scam I am seeing - "the power adapter is lost or broken or bla bla bla and I can not power it on or try to power it on sooooo I have no idea if anything else is wrong with this computer". (These sellers typically fein total ignorance of computers).
I know that post failures can be a bonus for geeks vis a vis a novice but I am seeing so many listings with this type of come on that I think it is time to call out these listings for what most times they are - a computer with a known bad mother board.
But duhhhh, repair Geeks are apparently bidding these machines up to a point that they can not be repaired for a profit; so they are being played as greedy suckers by these sellers. Sad.
I recently bought a Toshiba A105-S4284 from a "mate" (that's what he called me). I got it in auction at a decent price. When I received it, he "forgot" to include the power adapter. I had an adapter, plugged it in, and the machine had no plugged in light - i.e. BMB - Bad Mother Board. Turns out this machine was involved in something like a lightening strike, he admitted. It had a bad MB and screen.
Is there any way to call these sellers out while the machine is on sale? Is not devulging known problems a violation of eBay ethics? Is it not a reason to trash a seller?
Geo
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