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ratta2lee
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Re: Will Thinkpad T30 accept a 160GB Hard Drive?

Nov 3, 2009 4:59 PM
Generally, you just boot from the CD drive instead of the hard drive. For more info on this search Google "booting from a cd".
You may have to change the BIOS Setup to boot from the CD/DVD drive instead of from the hard drive.

If you have a brand new hard drive, Seagate/Maxtor/Western Digital will include a boot CD for setting up the new drive.

There are other methods, like booting from a USB drive or preparing your own bootable CD. Do you know how to get to the BIOS Setup on your computer to change the boot sequence, i.e BIOS needs to know that it should go to the CD/DVD drive.

Does that answer the question ?
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Re: Will Thinkpad T30 accept a 160GB Hard Drive?

Nov 3, 2009 5:57 PM
This site provides all sorts of information on Thinkpads. Link

Following the links took me here Link which gives a list of Thinkpads along with their most recent BIOS updates. The only problem there is that as far as I can tell the BIOS needs to be updated either from within Windows or from a floppy. If you don't have a floppy drive for the Thinkpad there's workarounds but it could get complicated.

It may be possible to tackle the problem from a different angle though. On the site I originally linked to I found this page Link which refers to a hard drive firmware update utility. This can be downloaded and when the downloaded image is burned to CD that CD can then be used to boot the Thinkpad. You'd do so with the hard drive you're intending to use installed, and the utility looks at the drive and updates the drive's firmware so it'll play nicely with the Thinkpad (as opposed to updating the Thinkpad's BIOS so it'll play with the drive).

Here's the link to the hard drive firmware update utility. Link
Here's the list of supported hard drives. Link
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Re: Will Thinkpad T30 accept a 160GB Hard Drive?

Nov 3, 2009 6:40 PM
I was looking at that myself, while you're still stuck with drives on the list, at least that's the way it looks even though the firmware updates states This utility will examine your system configuration and detect all 2.5 inch SATA Hard Drives (HDD) installed in your ThinkPad.

If nothing else you could try it with the drive you have now, no cost in doing so at least.

Keep in mind if you try updating the bios and make a mistake you'll end up with a door stop.

Make sure you read understand and follow the instructions to a tee before you start the process if you decide to go that route.
That and make sure you get the right bios update file for your exact type and model T30, don't guess.
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ratta2lee
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Re: Will Thinkpad T30 accept a 160GB Hard Drive?

Nov 3, 2009 8:19 PM
dash,

A USB floppy drive should work as long as the BIOS setup recognizes the floppy drive.

I'm fairly sure that I've updated BIOS using a $20 Sony USB floppy drive.
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Re: Will Thinkpad T30 accept a 160GB Hard Drive?

Nov 3, 2009 9:52 PM
ratta2lee,
I sort of figured a USB floppy would work but I wasn't sure if the OP had one and I didn't want to make any promises..... ;)

I've only had minor encounters with Thinkpads so I don't know all that much about them.
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Re: Will Thinkpad T30 accept a 160GB Hard Drive?

Nov 4, 2009 8:15 AM
OP -

Is this problem you're having occuring on both the T30s you won from the same seller? Have you tried the 160G HD in both systems?

Also, you mentioned a SNAD. The seller did say - on both auctions - that the system "boots to the BIOS" and doesn't elaborate on that. I would think that both systems would have problems not listed in the auction descriptions given that the seller only went so far with the booting of both laptops.

I've flashed BIOS on my 2nd ThinkPad (1st one had a floppy drive) using a USB floppy drive I bought for that system. I also bought a number pad/mouse combo set for it.........USB also. The BIOS flashed just fine using the USB floppy drive.

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ricobee
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Re: Will Thinkpad T30 accept a 160GB Hard Drive?

Nov 4, 2009 9:07 AM
Neko: So far I have only tried on one laptop. I will be able to give you more information tonight.
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Re: Will Thinkpad T30 accept a 160GB Hard Drive?

Nov 4, 2009 10:17 AM
lil*neko:
"I would think that both systems would have problems not listed in the auction descriptions given that the seller only went so far with the booting of both laptops."


I would think that'd be a pretty silly thing to think.
More likely they're ex-business laptops which were sold with the hard drives removed.
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lil*neko
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Re: Will Thinkpad T30 accept a 160GB Hard Drive?

Nov 4, 2009 10:30 AM
Thanks, OP, as trying both may help given that they are the same system. Both auction descriptions are identical so whatever is going on with the one you're working on could also be an issue with the other.

And again, I really doubt you have a claim for either of the systems because the seller stated they were only booted to the BIOS. That would tell me that anything beyond that is "iffy" at best and unknown by the seller.

If you could get both of them running you'd have a couple of pretty sturdy systems for a very low initial cost. I see you also bought some memory for them so I'm assuming you'd like to fix 'em up. I really wouldn't try a bigger HD than is already in there while you are trying to get the systems to boot property.......one less thing to think about while you concentrate on getting them to work.

The BIOS flash file should be listed on the Lenovo site under the serial numbers of both systems (probably use the same file). I didn't check the system enough to see if it has a floppy drive but if not maybe you could pick up one (they are cheap) or borrow one from someone who has one? I bought a good one (a Targus) given that the more new computers I buy the less floppy drives I have to work with and I've used this drive on now 4 computers that didn't come with floppy drives. I had no problems at all flashing the BIOS with a USB floppy drive and it did straighten out a couple of minor problems I was having with the 2nd ThinkPad. I also flashed the 1st one with the internal FDD without incident. Even my Ontrack Data Eraser worked with the USB FD.

You just need to make sure you have the right file for your system which has been mentioned here and is very important. I've also flashed external HDs, routers, and other assorted hardware and never had any problems. I just double and triple-check the file to make sure I've got the right one.

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Re: Will Thinkpad T30 accept a 160GB Hard Drive?

Nov 4, 2009 10:40 AM
lil*neko:
" I really wouldn't try a bigger HD than is already in there while you are trying to get the systems to boot property.......one less thing to think about while you concentrate on getting them to work."


Errrr.... bigger than already in where? Apparently they didn't come with hard drives.....

I'd be thinking the hard drive firmware updater is going to be more likely to fix the problem than a BIOS update. If a BIOS update fixed the problem there probably wouldn't be a need for the hard drive firmware update utility
It doesn't need a floppy drive.
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Re: Will Thinkpad T30 accept a 160GB Hard Drive?

Nov 4, 2009 12:01 PM
Did intel make a Pentium 4-M in "dual core" configuration?

Paid to much if its not dual core for that one IMO, borderline anyway.

That would be grounds for a SNAD claim if its not.
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Re: Will Thinkpad T30 accept a 160GB Hard Drive?

Nov 4, 2009 12:14 PM
I agree, a bios update will not help here and unless it fixes a specific problem and is listed as doing so, it is not recommended to do so.

Updating a bios can be risky even for those that know how, not like we're taking a "top of the line" machine here but doing so just "to do it" or just to "do so and hope it helps" is not a good idea. Especially if you have never done so, I lean towards you have not based on some of your questions/comments.

Before updating a bios the computer should be running at a stable temp and running with no errors.
If it has a memory problem you are not aware for example the bios update could and would likely fail.
The only "fix" for that if it happens, is replacement of the motherboard.
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ricobee
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Re: Will Thinkpad T30 accept a 160GB Hard Drive?

Nov 4, 2009 9:41 PM
Yes, I won two T30's from Abell, #1: model 2366-57g made in China, #2: 2366-42u made in Mexico. I receive the message: Invalid disk, replace and press any key to restart. Both laptops have been updated to the latesr BIOS:2006-06-16.
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Re: Will Thinkpad T30 accept a 160GB Hard Drive?

Nov 4, 2009 11:26 PM
ricobee,
Have you tried the hard drive firmware updater I linked to or did my post get lost amongst another lot of lil*neko's amusing anecdotes?
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Re: Will Thinkpad T30 accept a 160GB Hard Drive?

Nov 5, 2009 6:09 AM
Dash: Thanks for the follow-up. I did indeed miss it. It looks to be promising. I will check it fully this evening.
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