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Ebay's losing seller's and not gaining any new ones!
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Ebay's losing seller's and not gaining any new ones!
Apr 13, 2012 05:42 PM
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With the new rules and control Ebay and Paypal are trying to enforce on sellers, not only are they losing the long time seller's from when Ebay began, but thru word of mouth, would be new seller's do not want to go into this marketplace now. High fees, no regard for the seller who make's their money in the first place.
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Re: Ebay's losing seller's and not gaining any new ones!
Apr 13, 2012 07:09 PM
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Yes they are gaining sellers like BUY.COM etc. lol
They are loosing their core support base: small sellers with unique inventory that generate traffic for big sellers like Buy.com
Sellers with 100s of transactions have hard time selling with all these restrictions, PP holds etc.
Just think how hard it will be for any NEW seller to establish on this site. Mandatory PP money hold, strict selling restrictions (10/month for 90 days). eGreed is loosing sellers and new once are scared away.
Why would I buy something from Buy.com on ebay if they offer same price on their site?
I list on multiple sites, my fave is eBid. eBay sellers pushed out by eGreed will find a new home.
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Re: Ebay's losing seller's and not gaining any new ones!
Apr 15, 2012 09:24 PM
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Add me to this list - the Fees are getting ridiculous - and whatever happened to SELLER protection - especially Sellers with a proven track record!!! I find myself selling much less on ebay and doing more on Craigslist and other sites.
Its sad..
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Re: Ebay's losing seller's and not gaining any new ones!
Apr 16, 2012 04:55 PM
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I agree, I'm soo angry right now. After this case, I will be gladly deleting my Ebay account.
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Re: Ebay's losing seller's and not gaining any new ones!
Apr 17, 2012 02:53 AM
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And beside eBay's high fees, they obviously cater to the large commercial sellers who list stuff dirt cheap. I can't compete with Sellers pricing their stuff at less than what I pay for items. eBay has just gotten too greedy and does not care about the small sellers that made their site popular to begin with.
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Re: Ebay's losing seller's and not gaining any new ones!
Apr 17, 2012 02:16 PM
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Ebay and Pay Pal are like "Big Brother".
More new rules for coin dealers. It's a good thing there are other places to sell.
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Re: Ebay's losing seller's and not gaining any new ones!
Apr 17, 2012 04:41 PM
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This note pad that I am typing on is just an example of bad software and bad policy on eBays site. Just tried to turn off italics it keeps coming back so I will complete my thoughts and try ignoring the italics.
I sell mostly toy trains, my fathers hugh collection and some photo equipment used by my father and myself, usually only one each of an item. I know the field and technology in the catagories that I sell in. Recently I received the message from ebay that soon they will start favoring items in their search that contain Item Specifics. I do not know about all categories on ebay but in the area of Toy trains and Photographic equipment The item specifics on file with eBay are not nearly complete enough to be forced on the community. Take a simple item such as a 50mm F1.4 Nikon lens. There are around 30 iterations of that one lens and the TurboLister software tries to force you to accept specifics that do not match your item. This is a law suit looking for a place to happen. Last night I spent over two hours trying to get around incorrect item specific that were trying to force me to use them in order to upload my ad. I see other sellers especially low volume sellers and new sellers with incorrect item specifics as often as I see correct item specifics. Item Specifics are not saving me time rather they are costing me hours. If anyone from eBay is reading this, your data base is not ten percent of what it needs to be if you are going to require sellers to use it. Lets say that by some quirk you are able to fill in all the gaps you now have. That still does not relieve me of having to write a detailed description of all used items I sell. I will still need to take the time to search through your data base then write a unique description for my specific item. By the way, I write very accurate detailed descriptions with 5 stars for my descriptions. In the end you have cost me greatly, often doubling the time it takes to list an item. If you want to run off all the small sellers stop trying to legislate us out one new rule and one new fee at a time just say, sell 100K per month or get lost. If things don't move in the right direction soon I will get lost on my own. Fix TurboLister ! It sux ! johnacton2k
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Re: Ebay's losing seller's and not gaining any new ones!
Apr 17, 2012 05:34 PM
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@johnacton2k
"Recently I received the message from ebay that soon they will start favoring items in their search that contain Item Specifics."
eGreed is looking to become like Amazon. Here is some news for you ebay: a day late and a dollar short.
eGreed, take notes
1. Most items can be found cheaper and new on Amazon and other sites.
2. PP now reports sales to IRS (1099-K) if:
'$20,000 USD in gross payment volume from sales of goods or services in a single year AND 200 payments for goods or services in the same year'
both have to be reached link
https://cms.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/marketingweb?cmd=_render-content&content_ID=marketing_us/IRS6050W
this alone will drive sellers out. I could not imagine doing for example let's say a tax return for 1000 transactions with $25k in sales! pure madness,
eGreed cut + PP cut + Gov cut = GET A JOB AT McDonalds it will pay more per/hr!
eGreed fees and total disregard for small/med sellers, IRS and buyer is ALWAYS RIGHT EVEN IF WRONG = END OF eGeed RIP
for the love of god, eGreed spell checker dose not even recognize word eBay!
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Re: Ebay's losing seller's and not gaining any new ones!
Apr 17, 2012 05:42 PM
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just a follow up to new IRS rules:
quote:
How is the $20,000 calculated? Will it be calculated based on net or gross transaction earnings?
As required by IRC 6050W, the $20,000 will be calculated by looking at a seller’s gross payment volume for sales of goods or services. Gross amount means that any adjustments for credits, cash equivalents, discounts, fees, refunded amounts or any other amounts will not be netted out.
In addition, the reported amount will include any shipping and handling, sales tax or other fees which are included in payments you receive. We realize that these amounts may or may not be included in your taxable income, but we are required to report them. You should work with your tax advisor to determine how these items should be treated for tax purposes.
PP will not even remove fees!
1000 transactions, $25k in sales or 2000 transactions and $50k in sales, good luck preparing this return!
Get good accountant and Excellent lawyer!
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Re: Ebay's losing seller's and not gaining any new ones!
Apr 18, 2012 06:53 AM
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I have a Question. So I have been selling on e-bay since 2009 and have establish my store on e-bay. I of couse use Pay Pal as a method of payment and have just recently got Merchant Services and would like to add that to my method of payment along with the pay pal. I have a lot of people that e-mail me and do not want to use pay pal. How do I add this type of payment to my account.
Or better yet can I do it?
Onestopcelloshop12
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Re: Ebay's losing seller's and not gaining any new ones!
May 4, 2012 11:35 PM
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I think with the new Top Rated changes it is clear that ebay is moving towards large retailers and trying to make life difficult for the small guys . Their vision seems to be to become another amazon but I am pretty sure their sales are getting hit now.
Additionally , By allowing 50 free auctions they have created a situation of "me too retailers" competing against established sellers and thus screwing the profits of long time sellers .
I don't know who are the wise men behind the recent changes but I am myself finally fed up of ebay's changes and policies.
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Re: Ebay's losing seller's and not gaining any new ones!
May 5, 2012 06:42 AM
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I have been a long time seller and I am considering moving on. The feedback system is now put the seller at a huge disadvantage. The fees are high but the feedback is horrible. Ie..Buyer can leave negative for no reason what so ever and the seller can not leave anything but positive for them. You can try to have ebay reverse the negative but all the seller has to say is the they still want it to be negative and it will stay. Ebay even states to respect the decision of the buyer. This is simply wrong.
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Re: Ebay's losing seller's and not gaining any new ones!
May 5, 2012 08:47 AM
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eBay just does not care anymore. I have been a full time seller on eBay for nearly 15 years. Business is at an all time low. eBay at one time had great customer service. Now questions to eBay regarding problems, technical issues or this lack of business go unanswered. Have sent queries from the CEO to lower parts of the food chain asking for help regarding lack of customer service and have not gotten one response. They do not give a crap anymore. Two of the largest, longtime sellers in one of my categories have gotten sick of rotten business and lack of customer care have packed it in and moved on. Trying my best to hang on for business reasons, but not sure if we are going to make or even want to make it under the current conditions and the poor climate eBay is promoting with the sellers. Handwriting is on the wall and sadly it only seems to be a matter of time. Hope they get a clue before it is to late.
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Re: Ebay's losing seller's and not gaining any new ones!
May 10, 2012 09:15 PM
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AS ONE WE ARE WEAK AND PUSHED AROUND BY THE SCHOOL YARD BULLYS ebay AS MANY THEY WILL HAVE TO LISTEN WE NEED TO SCREAM OUT SHOUT LET EbAY KNOW WE THE SELLERS ARE TRIED AND WANT ARE RIGHTS TO BE LISTEN TO SO WE NEED TO UNITED AND GO ON STRIKE LETS PICK THE DAYS AND STOP LISTING UNTIL EBAY FEELS THE HURT AND CANNOT PAID THE LIGHT BILL
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Re: Ebay's losing seller's and not gaining any new ones!
May 10, 2012 09:16 PM
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AS ONE WE ARE WEAK AND PUSHED AROUND BY THE SCHOOL YARD BULLYS ebay AS MANY THEY WILL HAVE TO LISTEN WE NEED TO SCREAM OUT SHOUT LET EbAY KNOW WE THE SELLERS ARE TRIED AND WANT ARE RIGHTS TO BE LISTEN TO SO WE NEED TO UNITED AND GO ON STRIKE LETS PICK THE DAYS AND STOP LISTING UNTIL EBAY FEELS THE HURT AND CANNOT PAID THE LIGHT BILL
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Re: Ebay's losing seller's and not gaining any new ones!
May 13, 2012 09:24 AM
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At last my daughter has stopped selling her designer clothes on eBay. The last straw was:
Buyer won item and took three weeks to pay.
Item posted with tracking delivery
Abusive emails from buyer claiming she was being ripped off and she went complaining to eBay . She said that the parcel had not arrived. My daughter said to wait a few more days and if necessary she would give a refund.
After checking the tracking number my daughter found the postman had tried to deliver the item 3 days BEFORE the abuse began. eBay have seen the emails and the proof from the Royal Mail showing that a card was left at the buyers home stating that they had tried to deliver the parcel .
eBay customer service resolution were useless when contacted. Can they take the negative feedback off as it is a lie? NO. Can they penalise the buyer for the abusive emails? NO. So what can they do? Nothing they are totally useless and very often act as though they are doing you a favour.
But the good thing is my daughter is no longer a seller or buyer on eBay and has still managed to get good money from boot sales without the ripoff charges made by eBay and pay pal.
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(17 of 61)
Re: Ebay's losing seller's and not gaining any new ones!
May 15, 2012 09:54 AM
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Personally, I've already closed my store and moved my listings eBid. Depending on your products, there are quite a few other venues for selling.
The bottom line is STOP SELLING ON EBAY and just as important, STOP BUYING ON EBAY. It's the only power you have that will make any difference. In the long run, either eBay will change or you'll be happy with the new venue and you win either way.
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(18 of 61)
Re: Ebay's losing seller's and not gaining any new ones!
May 21, 2012 07:01 AM
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Thanks, just opened account on eBid.
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Re: Ebay's losing seller's and not gaining any new ones!
Jun 30, 2012 06:40 AM
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I have a credit score +680, seller for 8 years. +100K in sales/year. Never late on any bill.
Feedback 99%. Because of DSR low in shipping time (I ship within 24 hs) I was knocked off.
Competitors mafia overcharging customers and profiting $$$$$ want me out?? I bet they do and they kicked me out with their friends/paralel account leaving + feedback and low shipping time on DSR.
What a perfect crime my friends!
My response to Ebay:
A- Sellers are connected to hundreds of customer via social sites and websites.
B- Sellers know how to create and drive traffic to listings.
C- Amazon, Bonanza, Ebid getting the main traffic now.
D- DSR is not perfect and confusing. 99% of buyers don't understand it (the basis in user experience) and contributes to kick sellers out (just need 2 regular buyers/100 that might leave low DSR but + feedback an a seller is out).
As a seller:
1) I don't buy on Ebay since 2010. I buy on AMAZON and BONANZA.
2) I drove all my customers to my website and AMZN listings.
3) I always talk about AMZN to people and how amazing they are.
4) Ebay is losing traffic, income and advertisement... unlike my AMZN and my website.
Ebay, you never saw it coming.
Kind regards
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Re: Ebay's losing seller's and not gaining any new ones!
Jul 3, 2012 05:31 PM
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Just Quite Selling On E-Bay!!! I'm a Top Rated Seller with Nothing For Sale on E-Bay! Join Me!~
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Re: Ebay's losing seller's and not gaining any new ones!
Jul 4, 2012 07:02 AM
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ebay just sucks anymore i used to love this site my uncle was an antique dealer and showed me my way around swapshops and such its what i lived for my ideal life before becomeing a father was getting in a 60's vm bus hanging my grateful dead curtins in it replacing the vw emblem with a peace sign a effeniency size refridgrator a wall unit a/c with a wifi laptop and run my ebay as i traveled the country but truth be told the way zleezebay i mean ebay is anymore im no longer a proud member of ebay as i have had other accounts the last one i did o0ver 5k transactions on but because of my sons biological mother shut everything down and restarted so now im back to basics trying to make ends meet and support my 5 year old child without help and thanks to ebay and all their rules, regulations and fees unable to even make a buck cause it cost me more between my listing fees, item fees, packing fees (unless i use priority mail boxes) final value cost and shipping chances are im going to take a hit in the end anyways so to hell with ebay but for some stupid reason i still list a little hope everyone has a safe healthy and happy 4th
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Re: Ebay's losing seller's and not gaining any new ones!
Jul 5, 2012 02:49 AM
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As a long time seller on eBay, I agree with everything read here. I am a part time seller of found items and clothing and try to keep my prices low and pass savings on to buyers. With all the new fees (especially fee on shipping), I make very little profit. Then a buyer can threaten bad feedback if they don't get a refund for no reason OR more times than not - don't want to return item, but want refund. Then there are the buyers that think they can pay
whenever. These customers ignore all requests for payment and emails. They take days weeks to pay and this sceanario is becoming more common. I have resorted to canceling transactions after 4 days. I do not offer layaway-lol. Where else on the internet can you select an item for purchase and pay whenever with no recourse? I could go on and on. As far as eBay setting policies that get your listings shown more frequently, this has been going on for a long time with favortism toward large retailers. In the past I could have up to a hundred items listed and have a handful of buyers view my items. I am growing tired and sell about 1/2 what I used to on ebay. When I was called by customer service to see if I wanted someone to go over the new policies, I advised the caller "I could read" and understand what I read- I voiced complaints of fee structure and said if things didn't change would not be using eBay much longer. Was not rude just matter of fact and customer serv person said "whatever"!?
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Re: Ebay's losing seller's and not gaining any new ones!
Jul 5, 2012 02:52 AM
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Really, you think ebay cares? The large retailers make them more money in a day than a hundred small sellers in a week. They want the small sellers gone and this is how they push us out.
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