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Don't give feedback to sellers until they give it to you.......
Last Post Nov 16, 2009 12:25 AM by: ingeniouskha
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wlkngdshbg
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Don't give feedback to sellers until they give it to you.......

Sep 20, 2009 8:59 PM
Time and time again, I buy something on Ebay, I pay immediately with PayPal, and the seller does not give me any feedback until after I leave it for him first.

This is agains Ebay policy I am almost sure. A bit ago Ebay changed policy so sellers could not leave "retalitory" feedback, that is giving a buyer bad feedback who paid quickly, just because they gave well-deserved bad feedback for a good reason.

This ruined the feedback system for ebay, making it useless.

Now, apparently most sellers simply hold off on giving feedback as long as possible. Are they hoping the buyer gets tired of waiting? Are they hoping the buyer simply slips up and leaves it before they are supposed to?

Whatever the reason, there is no GOOD one for not leaving positive feedback for a buyer that pays lightning fast with PayPal. The buyers job is done at that point, and done very well.

Then it is up to the SELLER to pack the item well, ship it promptly, and have the item be as described in the auction.

If the seller screws up or sells something that is not as advertised, then they damn well deserve bad feedback so that the next buyer can be informed of the bad apple.

So in a nutshell, if you are a buyer on ebay, lets start holding that feedback back until the seller does what they are supposed to for a prompt-paying customer. And if they do not leave feedback, lets report them to Ebay so the feedback system is not compromised as it once was, and so buyers can be properly informed of a sellers performance when they are shopping.

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johnny9434
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Re: Don't give feedback to sellers until they give it to you.......

Sep 21, 2009 3:53 AM
i dont leave a feedback till i get what ordered and its in good shape, then i leave the feedback. i dont have any grief with that :). its all good. ive had sellers leave me feedback right off to which makes me feel good and i come back as a repeat as a customer. i guess its a judgement thing
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wlkngdshbg
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Re: Don't give feedback to sellers until they give it to you.......

Sep 21, 2009 5:59 AM
Of course a buyer can not really give feedback on a seller until they receive the item they purchased and can inspect it first hand.

Right now I have three items I bought in hand that I payed for instantly with PayPal weeks ago, and as of yet have not got any feedback from the seller for quickly paying for them.

One even sent me an EMAIL thanking me for quick payment, but did not leave feedback saying this yet.

And these three instances are very typical, at least every other seller does the same thing.

There is something amiss here that needs to be addressed. I follow the rules as a seller and as a buyer on ebay, and I think it would work best if everyone else did,
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wlkngdshbg
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Re: Don't give feedback to sellers until they give it to you.......

Sep 21, 2009 7:36 PM
Hepple:"Where does it say (in eBay rules) that a buyer should be 'rewarded' for paying for the item he bid on & won?
Last time I checked, paying was a requirement...
Feed-back is NOT."

Hep, no one was talking about that, Feedback for sellers is not for winning the auction, it is to reward the buyer for PAYING PROMPTLY, which is what they are supposed to do, get it now?

Hep said:
"Considering the present climate on eBay as to Sellers rights...I suggest you try walking in a seller's shoes BEFORE you post on a public forums condemning sellers for waiting to leave feed-back.."

I have sold a hundred items or so on ebay, and I have had no problems at all as a seller, it is all part of being intelligent, try it sometime......

Hep said:
"Actually from a seller's point of view, feed-back is useless...."

Great Hep, then quit giving it out, buyers will quit giving it to you, and when you are sitting there with zero feedback someday, that is not going to make any difference in your sales?

Hep, I would tell you to think before you speak, but you would not know what I was talking about........
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ilivewith3cavemen
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Sep 22, 2009 1:41 PM
OP - As a buyer, I totally understand your frustration.

But Feedback is, and always was, voluntary. Where is it stated that sellers must leave feedback first?

Are you buying an item or feedback?

As a seller, I don't leave it first anymore. The transaction is far from over just because the buyer paid "fast". If a buyer emails me and says "I received the item and it's great, blah, blah, blah, then yes, I will leave them feedback first.
Due to ebay and their ever ongoing rules, we sellers are not able to leave honest feedback anymore, so some sellers have given up on it.

Be thankful, not hateful
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adrian44
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Re: Don't give feedback to sellers until they give it to you.......

Sep 23, 2009 2:59 PM
ilivewith3cavemen wrote:
OP - As a buyer, I totally understand your frustration.

But Feedback is, and always was, voluntary. Where is it stated that sellers must leave feedback first?

Are you buying an item or feedback?

As a seller, I don't leave it first anymore. The transaction is far from over just because the buyer paid "fast". If a buyer emails me and says "I received the item and it's great, blah, blah, blah, then yes, I will leave them feedback first.
Due to ebay and their ever ongoing rules, we sellers are not able to leave honest feedback anymore, so some sellers have given up on it.


Ditto!



"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people". -- Eleanor Roosevelt
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rickmandick
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Re: Don't give feedback to sellers until they give it to you.......

Sep 23, 2009 5:43 PM
the feedback system here is starting to suck like on amazon. i make 20 sales and one will leave feedback. i have a new paypal account so they hold my money for 21 days. if no feedback is received then i have to wait 3 weeks for money. im glad i have 2 actual storefronts, craigslist and amazon to ease the pain of waiting
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ilivewith3cavemen
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Sep 23, 2009 8:20 PM
Rick- if you supply Paypal with the dc# showing the item was delivered, your money will be released to you.

Be thankful, not hateful
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dukeslayer
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Re: Don't give feedback to sellers until they give it to you.......

Sep 23, 2009 11:06 PM
I always give feedback automatic when the buyer gave to me... If i leave the feedback first.. And buyer received the item still gave me negative feedback i think i will cry..
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roknrik
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Re: Don't give feedback to sellers until they give it to you.......

Sep 24, 2009 11:31 PM
As a buyer I always leave feedback when the item is received. As a seller I used to give feedback when payment was received. Now, because so many buyers do not leave feedback, I do not leave feedback until it is received from the buyer. As a seller I can not believe how many buyers do not leave feedback.
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ningjin1688
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Re: Don't give feedback to sellers until they give it to you.......

Sep 26, 2009 5:16 AM
I am new on eBay, I post from Taiwan.

I agree with ilivewith3.

Early this year, I sold a set of very fine second hand sofa with very low price on Yahoo Taiwan.
After I dispatched the sofa for about an hour (the time the soaf was supposed to reache the buyer's hands), I called the buyer confirming if she had received the safa. She said yes, and happily thanked me for such good sofa with such low price.
So I left a positive feedback for the buyer, and waiting for her feedback.
But the buyer never left me any feedback.
I sent her an email remind her to leave me a feedback, but she kept slient.

After that, I was thinking maybe I should keep my feedback until a buyer give me a feedback feedback first.

Any way, I understand how wlkngdshbg feel.
wlkngdshbg, had you send emails or left any message to the seller to remind him/her to leave you feedback?
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lifeboatblue
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Re: Don't give feedback to sellers until they give it to you.......

Sep 26, 2009 11:17 AM
Hi there, I sell as well as buy on ebay and always leave feedback as soon as my item arrives and I am happy with my purchase, I think it is only polite to let sellers know items have arrived and are OK, most ebayers are small dealers not huge conglomerates, so this matters to them, As a seller I always wait until my buyer leaves feedback or lets me know they are happy with their item, as I dont believe my side of the bargain is complete until items have arrived and the buyer is happy.
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smartchip2009
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Re: Don't give feedback to sellers until they give it to you.......

Oct 3, 2009 5:50 PM
Thanks wlkngdshbg, it helps to me if sometime i want to look for feedback by buying items.
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kitkat6868
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Re: Don't give feedback to sellers until they give it to you.......

Oct 4, 2009 4:35 PM
SELLERS are getting screwed left and right, due to irate, angry, and most times deceitful BUYERS! A buyer will say he LOVED the item but shipping took tooo long, and WE AS SELLERS get punished!!! People like you are the REASON EBAY is going down theCRAPPER!!!!!!
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kitkat6868
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Oct 4, 2009 4:39 PM
as a seller, YOU ARE AN ASS....its people with ATTITUDES like youwho are ruining EBAY
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