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dogthebountyhunter
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No Thanksgiving meal for county jail inmates

Nov 26, 2009 1:57 AM
No Thanksgiving meal for county jail inmates


Inmates who will spend Thanksgiving Day at the Cleveland County Detention Center should not expect a traditional holiday meal, Cleveland County Undersheriff Rhett Burnett said.


Burnett said preparing turkey dinners with all the trimmings is too expensive. Last year, it cost the county government about $1,800 to cover meal expenses, Burnett said.

"It would be out of our budget right now," he said.

The Cleveland County Sheriff's Department was forced to let go of several employees in September due to a shortfall in the county's budget, according to officials. Those who were cut were assigned to the administration division or support staff.

Burnett said he was unsure if this was the first time that a sheriff has decided not to serve turkey dinners on Thanksgiving Day.

Cleveland County Commissioner Rusty Sullivan who represents District 3, said the county's budget board sets the annual budget and gives money to various departments.

"We don't micromanage any department," Sullivan said.

He said the decision not to serve jail inmates a Thanksgiving meal was made by Sheriff Joe Lester.

"The jail is under the supervision by the sheriff," Sullivan said.

Burnett said CCDC inmates will be fed Thursday. Thursday's lunch menu includes two turkey hot dogs, mustard, corn chips, white cake with chocolate icing and black cherry Kool-Aid.

At dinner time, inmates will be served spaghetti with meat sauce, green beans, a breadstick, banana and lemonade, Burnett said.

Burnett said Lester had a few words for anyone who wishes to eat a Thanksgiving meal Thursday.

"If you want a good Thanksgiving meal, don't be in jail," Lester said.

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Re: No Thanksgiving meal for county jail inmates

Nov 26, 2009 3:47 AM
"If you want a good Thanksgiving meal, don't be in jail,"


Words to live by..

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Don't worry, it only seems kinky the first time..
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Re: No Thanksgiving meal for county jail inmates

Nov 26, 2009 6:37 AM
No, No, No! We need to work this out in a sensitive and PC manner:

2nd Amendment says we have the right to bear arms.

The almost certainly means we have the right to bare arms.

And if bare arms, why not bare thighs?

And what's a bare thigh, other than a drumstick?

So, you see, we're denying those poor inmates their constitutional rights an' all!

Where's a dang lawyer whn you need one?
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dogthebountyhunter
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Re: No Thanksgiving meal for county jail inmates

Nov 26, 2009 6:55 AM
That jail is so full they are having to ship them out to another county.
Unless you are in for murder, rape or armed robbery, they are kicking them out of jail with a signature bond.

Even the people that miss court are getting kicked back out.

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Re: No Thanksgiving meal for county jail inmates

Nov 26, 2009 6:56 AM
"If you want a good Thanksgiving meal, don't be in jail,"


Words to live by..


My daughter's ex should read the above words, before 11/15/2009, when he committed B&E into my daughter's house.

But his granny put up the money yesterday for his $10K bond, for burglary-1 felony. He broke into my daughter's house, which afterwards he met my daughter's boyfriend, who put him to the floor and out the window he came in, then arrested by the local PD.

I was hoping the SOB would spend the holiday in jail.

I asked my daughter if he was sweet on someone in the jail, 3rd time in it since 03/2008. B-)

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Re: No Thanksgiving meal for county jail inmates

Nov 26, 2009 9:03 AM
{ He broke into my daughter's house, which afterwards he met my daughter's boyfriend, who put him to the floor and out the window he came in, then arrested by the local PD}


I just love a happy ending :^O
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Re: No Thanksgiving meal for county jail inmates

Nov 26, 2009 11:02 AM
Gee JR , he sounds like my Ex husband:( Must be related :O

As they say, can't cure STUPID! :^O


""If you want a good Thanksgiving meal, don't be in jail,"

Put down the pipe, get a job and do as your are told.

Doesn't sound too hard to me.:^O


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Re: No Thanksgiving meal for county jail inmates

Nov 26, 2009 11:49 AM
Significant difference in fundamental rights.........from being in Jail and being in prison. Jailed inmates are for the most part not convicted of an offense;they have merely been charged with an offense therefore they are presumed to have a "presumption of innocence". They are either at Trial, or are awaiting trial.

Housed in that same jail are inmates who have been "found guilty" at trial, or through plea agreement, or who are awaiting transportation to a State or Federal Prison. Under law these inmates cannot be housed (confined) within the same cell, or module with those persons who still carry their presumption of innocence. This is where the system breaks down and inmates are released. It has nothing to do with the class of offense, it has to do with the "status" in terms of established guilt: or whether the presumption of innocence still attaches.......

Last Thing: The jail is not full of Murderers, Rapists, and Robbers. The jail is full of drunk brawlers, drug users, auto thieves, domestic batterers, and those who violate traffic laws.

The jails, prisons of America, continue to be one of the few growing industries. Eighty percent of all prison, or jailed inmates, are there for drug offenses. Not for drug related offenses. But for either the distribution, or use of a prohibited drug, this includes those distributed by American Pharmacies.

So what do we have? Do we have a populace of people who are inherently more evil?

Or do we have a Society, comprised of Legislators, who have managed to impose sanctions on virtually every aspect of our lives.

Whether it in the form of "new law", "new taxes", new permitting restrictions, or licensing fees, listing fees, selling fees:

How many of you have ever run afoul one way or the other of Ebay Policy....and done so without intent or the will to create a wrong? Not hard to do Right? Well it is this same dynamic in Society at large. Laws, Ordinances, codes, come on the books by the thousands, in every jurisdiction, municipality, and State

From my perspective each passing day, each of us, draws closer to being in violation of some "ordinance", "code", or "law."

I say Everyone deserves a moment of recompense and Thanksgiving.........If that means having a Turkey Dinner then so be it; In all of this that presumes to Separate us, Surely there is som much more to bind us in what is proposed as a "Christian Nation". And I don't mean that in a denominational sense. I mean that in the sense of brotherly love, and Charity and forgiveness for those who are the downtrodden; It is called Compassion. I personally would like to see all jailed who can be demonstrated, to have not shown compassion. It is the lack of compassion from which these behaviors Spring.

Until we depart from the Puritanical Instinct to Punish, and move to a more Universal precept to correct and instruct and be compassionate in all our intentions...........We will continue to reap what we have. And folks whatever side of the fence you sit, where we are, and what we have seems to lose a bit of it's luster every day.

So though this is a day for thanksgiving it should also be a day for cognition; Though we have much to be thankful for and we should be; we should not be complacent and compartmentalized. We should truly be concerned about being elevated, and elevating all around us. Thanks for letting me Preach. Good Day..

For God sake give them some thing to smile about, and a Turkey Dinner..............What have we become?
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Re: No Thanksgiving meal for county jail inmates

Nov 26, 2009 12:00 PM
If there is a judgment Day: We will be not judged by what we have done in contravention of Man's laws: But by a Greater Law.
We will be judged for "offenses of the Heart"........How did we feel how did we act with regard the least amongst us."

We won't be judged upon what a great citizen we might have been, how much money we made, the toys we amassed; we will be judged on the merit of our heart. How that heart beat to, if not a Greater Purpose, then at least to a real care extended to our fellow humans...and the acts carried to them in that spirit.

Thanksgiving....Thanks..giving....Giving...thankfully.
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Re: No Thanksgiving meal for county jail inmates

Nov 26, 2009 12:37 PM
Sorry I alreasdy gave them a free public defender


the majority of people in jail belong there through there own actions and no one elses. Laws are laws if you cant afford to do the time then dont do the crime

also render unto ceaser waht is seacers dont complain about the three hots and your cot when law abiding people starve

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Re: No Thanksgiving meal for county jail inmates

Nov 26, 2009 2:05 PM
"As they say, can't cure STUPID! :^O"

If they gave out trophies for being stupid, this ex of my daughter would get first place.

He is the dumbest POS I have ever met and don't know why she married him.

He is now whining and snivaling to all those that will listen that it's my daughter's fault he was put in jail.

Not true, he pissed off the cops several times, they were out to get him. My daughter, nor anyone else involved, never filed any complaints against him.

This boy is just plain stupid and he has a twin brother. I think the twin must of got the majority of the brains when the egg split. B-)

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Re: No Thanksgiving meal for county jail inmates

Nov 26, 2009 2:31 PM
Oh I almost forgot.

Here in Az turkey is priced at $.37 per pound, there is no other meat product that is priced even close.
Dressing is made up of onions , celery and cornbread.......... some of the cheapest items in the store. Yams are qiute cheap too.



The Undersherrif is just looking for his 15 seconds of fame, at the expense of the inmates and of the taxpayers.

Hot dogs cost more than turkey.
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Re: No Thanksgiving meal for county jail inmates

Nov 26, 2009 3:17 PM
Have to agree with 56_two_ten there!
I would think you could get one of those bloody turkey TV dinners about 2 fur a quid.

or

Cheap as turkey is, you save up your left over toasted bread for a week, couple dozen eggs, some onions and how expensive can some chicken broth be?

A dozen cans of green beans, some massed up sweet potatoes and Bob's your uncle!

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Re: No Thanksgiving meal for county jail inmates

Nov 26, 2009 3:38 PM
"If you want a good Thanksgiving meal, don't be in jail,"


Words to live by..



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Re: No Thanksgiving meal for county jail inmates

Nov 26, 2009 3:59 PM
Fudgester you have to remember most of those blokes haven't been convicted of anything yet.

I don't think that's the problem here.

They wanted to make it a budget issue....
But was it?


We used to write several bonds a day at that jail.
We have written 1 in the past 6 months there.
Why? Because they are releasing the people with just a signature there because of overcrowding.
They are currently building a huge facilty at a different location as we speak.

It was one of my employees and the only reason we did that is so he could get right back to work. It was written before he even arrived a the jail.

If somebody had asked me,I would have written a check for the whole shooting match. What better advsertising can you get? $1800 bucks would have bought a whole lot of future good will.
Most any bail compnay would have paid for that meal.

I think I'lll hit em up to pay for Christmas dinner.

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