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NoN paying eBayMotors buyers

Nov 1, 2009 8:05 PM

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To most selling on eBay motors it is a Business. Even those who are just private sellers experience the hardship of Non-paying bidders.

We need help from eBay. After doing a lot of research I came up with a solution that might work. Many auction houses make a buyer put a small deposit to bid on a car. I see no reason why eBay can not require a bidder to leave a small deposit to show that they have an interest in really purchasing a car. This will weed out the zero bidders, the fake bidders just wasting time and the bidders who email after 5 days that their dog hit buy it now or the 2 year old was playing with the computer or the best on I heard was that I thought this was an online gaming site. I checked him and he won 18 cars in one week. What a game.

I know we get our final value fee back and if we re-list we will sometimes get our listing fees back, but I do not think that a 20-50 deposit per car bidding would be out of range, Or at least a credit card on file and if they do get a non-paying bidder on an item then the listing fees are paid by that buyer as just payment for our trouble.

To me this is a business. I sold 6 cars last week and actually delivered 1. All the other buyers had some lame excuse that they did not pay. I am out time and money for this listings. Now I have to re-list the car and hope for a serious bidder this time.

Tell me what you think.

Just an idea, any improvements to the suggestion are appreciated

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Re: NoN paying eBayMotors buyers

Nov 1, 2009 8:17 PM

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I think your idea is prudent and logical.

Therefore it probably has ZERO chance of being implemented by eBay.

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Re: NoN paying eBayMotors buyers

Nov 1, 2009 10:49 PM

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Yes, they should require everyone who wants to bid on anything to have a credit card or cash deposit on file- and for big ticket items, Ebay should automatically transfer the seller=specified deposit out of the buyers account and intop the seller's. Non-refundable.

Buyer backs out...seller keeps the deposit, out of which to pay Ebay fees, and can keep what's left over for his trouble.

See how fast the NPBs would disappear!

The fact that Ebay lets this continue for years, and even takes away our ability to leave them neg feedback, while they can leave it for us, is proff that Ebay wants NPB's here...probably because it makes the sell-through rate look higher than it is, because NPBs are not taken into account in those statistics.

Re: NoN paying eBayMotors buyers

Nov 2, 2009 5:36 AM

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" Many auction houses make a buyer put a small deposit to bid on a car. I see no reason why eBay can not require a bidder to leave a small deposit to show that they have an interest in really purchasing a car."

Let me start by saying I do NOT condone recreational non paying bidders.

Next, you are exspecting Ebay to be the same as an auction house or vehicle auction, it is not.

It is an On line venue, period.

It is no different than if you place an ad in the newspaper and get calls saying the person will be over to look at and buy the ride and they never show up.

Ebay is not going to scar off potential buyers by asking for a credit card and dinging the card for a deposit if the bidder fails to follow thru. It simply is not going to happen.

There several things you can do to cut down on your non paying bidders.

1. require immediate payment Link

2. screen your bidders as they bid.

This means as you see a 0 or low FB bidder, go look at their bidding history. Are they bidding on 6 similar rides as well as your? If yes then cancel and Block their user ID.

3. For 0 or low FB bidders , pull their contact info and give them a call to feel them out.

If the phone number is invalid, then report it, cancel and block.Link

Call the buyer and feel them out. Do they sound serious, ask them if they have any questions regarding the vehicle you could help them with. You can tell if a buyer is serious or just playing during a quick phone call.

4. Set your buyer requirements/seller preferences to exclude those who do ot meet your requirements.

5. 0 FB bidders who are registered in a foreign country when you only sell to USA bidders, can easily be found by taking a quick look at a bidder's feeback page and or setting your buyer requirements.

Non Paying bidders can not be totally eliminated, but sellers can reduce the number by using the tools Ebay gives you properly.

Ebay now allows you to file the UID(Unpaid Item Dispute on day # 4 after the auction has ended, instead of waiting 7 days post auction.Link

Pick up the phone , call the buyer and see if they intent to pay or not. If it is clear they will not, then go to your next highest bidder and Offer the Second Chance Offer via Ebay's message system.Link

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Re: NoN paying eBayMotors buyers

Nov 2, 2009 5:47 AM

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vpauto, your "$120.00 Ebay Administrative processing fee :_|

" in addition to the dealer fee, all the other additional fees are more likely causing your Non Paying bidders!

You can and should be charging only the dealer Doc fee which should include all the fees.

You can not charge a separate "$120.00 Ebay Administrative processing fee " on top of the Dealer fee.

Your bidders are not scrolling down reading all that is written , are bidding and then after winning realizing the additional fees and bugging out on the deal.

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Re: NoN paying eBayMotors buyers

Nov 2, 2009 5:53 AM

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"Our fees are as follows:
$120.00 Ebay Administrative processing fee
$100.00 Documentary fee
125.00 for 3 month 4500 mile engine and trans warranty. (optional)
$10.00 for a 30-day Pennsylvania temporary in-transit license plate (For out of state residents) Pennsylvania residents must pay the above fees plus: 6% sales tax ,and applicable state fees.
$25.00 Fee for any overnight shipment of paperwork. (DHL/FEDEX etc)

You are listing high mileage,older vehicles with no reserve and socking the bidders with additional fees on top of the Dealer Doc fee of $100.

You will get more than your fair share of non paying bidders with this and the average bidder who wants these rides is not going to read every word of your listing.

Fact: Bidders do not read, they skim listings :_|

Your fees are towards the bottom of the listing, which most bidders never look at until the auction has ended and they go to pay.

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