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J.C. & S - Jos. Cook & Son(s) maybe? Also what are these stones? Cute Kitty

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J.C. & S - Jos. Cook & Son(s) maybe? Also what are these stones? Cute Kitty
Aug 3, 2012 08:10 PM

 

 

I posted this over on the Jewelry & Gems board and they suggested I try here and ask for CUTE KITTY...

 

I recently acquired this J.C. & S. pin.  It was worn on a Nova Scotia Tartan kilt for the longest time.  The little bit of research I did showed it might be a Joseph Cook & Son pin, but there is no hallmark.  I'm really out of my element (I sell women's pre-owned clothing and usually post over on the CAB board), so I'm wondering if anyone can offer any info.

 

I'm also don't know about stones.  Any help would be greatly appreciated. TIA!


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J.C. & S - Jos. Cook & Son(s) maybe? Also what are these stones? Cute Kitty

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J.C. & S - Jos. Cook & Son(s) maybe? Also what are these stones? Cute Kitty
Aug 3, 2012 08:10 PM
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I posted this over on the Jewelry & Gems board and they suggested I try here and ask for CUTE KITTY...

 

I recently acquired this J.C. & S. pin.  It was worn on a Nova Scotia Tartan kilt for the longest time.  The little bit of research I did showed it might be a Joseph Cook & Son pin, but there is no hallmark.  I'm really out of my element (I sell women's pre-owned clothing and usually post over on the CAB board), so I'm wondering if anyone can offer any info.

 

I'm also don't know about stones.  Any help would be greatly appreciated. TIA!


Women are angels. And when someone breaks our wings, we simply continue to fly...on a broomstick. We are flexible like that.

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by emerald40 (144 ) View Listings
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Re: J.C. & S - Jos. Cook & Son(s) maybe? Also what are these stones? Cute Kitty
Aug 3, 2012 08:27 PM

I believe Joseph Cook and Sons was Scottish or British.  If the piece were by them there would be the silver purity mark 925 with the appropriate hallmarks.

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Re: J.C. & S - Jos. Cook & Son(s) maybe? Also what are these stones? Cute Kitty
Aug 4, 2012 08:27 AM

Emerald is correct - if this is British, it would have 4 marks on it, in accordance with hallmarking law.  City, purity, year, and maker marks.

 

This site shows the J Cook & Sons mark to be different - the style of lettering is not the same:

http://www.illusionjewels.com/costumejewelrymarksj.html

 

And here's another piece on ebay where you can see the 4 stamps on it:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ANTIQUE-EDWARDIAN-SILVER-BRACELET-JC-S-J-COOK-SONS-BIRMINGHAM-1913-/190647968761?pt=Vintage_Costume_Jewelry&hash=item2c638123f9

 

I will look in my US trademark book on Monday, it's at work.

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Re: J.C. & S - Jos. Cook & Son(s) maybe? Also what are these stones? Cute Kitty
Aug 4, 2012 08:45 AM

Emerald is correct - if this is British, it would have 4 marks on it, in accordance with hallmarking law.  City, purity, year, and maker marks.

 

This site shows the J Cook & Sons mark to be different - the style of lettering is not the same:

http://www.illusionjewels.com/costumejewelrymarksj.html

 

And here's another piece on ebay where you can see the 4 stamps on it:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ANTIQUE-EDWARDIAN-SILVER-BRACELET-JC-S-J-COOK-SONS-BIRMINGHAM-1913-/190647968761?pt=Vintage_Costume_Jewelry&hash=item2c638123f9

 

I will look in my US trademark book on Monday, it's at work.

 

Thanks Owl, thanks Emerald, I really do appreciate all the info.  Will look forward to Monday to see what you find!


Women are angels. And when someone breaks our wings, we simply continue to fly...on a broomstick. We are flexible like that.

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Re: J.C. & S - Jos. Cook & Son(s) maybe? Also what are these stones? Cute Kitty
Aug 5, 2012 01:30 PM

http://www.morninggloryantiques.com/imagesLZ/Victorian/vict28065b.jpg

 

Found something interesting.  Was on the Morning Glory web page, and found this piece with the JC&S manufacturers mark and sterling, just like the OP's piece.

It does not have the typical British hallmarks.

 

 

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Re: J.C. & S - Jos. Cook & Son(s) maybe? Also what are these stones? Cute Kitty
Aug 5, 2012 01:56 PM

Emerald, the style of lettering in the maker's mark is different than the OP's, though, so we still can't say for sure who made it.

 

But that one on Morning Glory is a Cook & Son's, because that lettering is their mark.  I wonder if it was legal to make jewelry without all of the hallmarks if it was for export?

 

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Re: J.C. & S - Jos. Cook & Son(s) maybe? Also what are these stones? Cute Kitty
Aug 5, 2012 02:26 PM

Ebay is eating posts again.  I had made another post asking that same question OWL on whether pieces of jewelry for export to the States might not require the hallmarks.

 

I also thought that maybe an heir moved to the US to carry on the name and makers mark but then used our purity mark.  I found a john cook out of New York, but his mark is different.

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Re: J.C. & S - Jos. Cook & Son(s) maybe? Also what are these stones? Cute Kitty
Aug 5, 2012 08:08 PM

Lads and Lasses, this is a Scottish Dirk called a "Sgian Dubh. " pronounced " sci-an due ", a close effort at it. So one would think the firm you are looking for would be Scottish as it is a pretty piece that would also sell as a souvenir. J.

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Re: J.C. & S - Jos. Cook & Son(s) maybe? Also what are these stones? Cute Kitty
Aug 5, 2012 10:39 PM

Scotland has the same hallmarking requirements as England.

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Re: J.C. & S - Jos. Cook & Son(s) maybe? Also what are these stones? Cute Kitty
Aug 6, 2012 08:12 PM

Jacob Cohen and Sons Jewelry

 

So this could be Jacob Cohen and Son Jewelry.

This shows the lettering font is very plain, like your trademark, with no periods after each letter.

They were out of business by the time of my book, 1994, with no known adress.

 

There is a Jacob Cohen Sons listed in NY in the 1920 Jeweler's Circular :

http://books.google.com/books?id=t1UcAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA107&lpg=PA107&dq=jacob+cohen+and+son+jewelry&source=bl&ots=R-YZPGCHIN&sig=pq0EeZF6sN3FfdabzK5oZ2cxfHk&hl=en&sa=X&ei=6YUgUKb5KevpiwLl-YGICg&ved=0CEoQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=jacob%20cohen%20and%20son%20jewelry&f=false

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Re: J.C. & S - Jos. Cook & Son(s) maybe? Also what are these stones? Cute Kitty
Aug 7, 2012 03:56 AM

Thanks owl, for taking the time & trouble to research this for me, yes it looks as if it could be them.

 

Thanks to everyone for the interesting and valuable info, it really helped me a lot - you're all terrific!


Women are angels. And when someone breaks our wings, we simply continue to fly...on a broomstick. We are flexible like that.

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Re: J.C. & S - Jos. Cook & Son(s) maybe? Also what are these stones? Cute Kitty
Aug 7, 2012 11:53 AM

Good catch, Owl.  Those 3 little letters were bugging me too.

 

 I think it also underscores that for people asking for identification  of their makers marks, we need to see it.  I did not realize since I starting looking them up that many share the same letters, with just subtle differences such as placement, script, even a period, telling them apart.

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