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Please Read Product Descriptions Before Buying Vol 2--8/15/06

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Please Read Product Descriptions Before Buying Vol 2--8/15/06
Aug 15, 2006 05:03 PM
From the original thread: fritzwm-k (982 ) View Listings | Report May-28-06 08:35 PDT An underlying theme that seems to pop up with dissatisfied buyers is the issue of mislabeling of quality. Some mislabeling is just bad sellers but some is not reading the description. If the book is a hardbound, but the description says "paperback ed." Don't buy unless you will be satisfied with the paperback. (International ed. of textbooks are almost always paperbacks.) In another case, it seems to me that if the seller says something like "... dust jacket may have tears ...", then the buyer needs to understand that the seller HAS NOT SEEN THE BOOK! The dust jacket will probably be torn. EXPECT IT! Also if the seller lists themselves as shipping from ML (multiple locations), they are probably a drop shipper and are at the mercy of whomever they buy from as far as condition. Generally, they HAVEN'T SEEN THE BOOK EITHER! In most cases, if you contact these sellers, they will refund if you return the book, but, if you need the book on a time line, you're going to be stuck. There are a lot of good sellers out there, and some are even drop shippers, but, please, take a second to read and think about the description before you buy. It may be worth a buck more to get what you really want.
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Please Read Product Descriptions Before Buying Vol 2--8/15/06

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Please Read Product Descriptions Before Buying Vol 2--8/15/06
Aug 15, 2006 05:03 PM
From the original thread: fritzwm-k (982 ) View Listings | Report May-28-06 08:35 PDT An underlying theme that seems to pop up with dissatisfied buyers is the issue of mislabeling of quality. Some mislabeling is just bad sellers but some is not reading the description. If the book is a hardbound, but the description says "paperback ed." Don't buy unless you will be satisfied with the paperback. (International ed. of textbooks are almost always paperbacks.) In another case, it seems to me that if the seller says something like "... dust jacket may have tears ...", then the buyer needs to understand that the seller HAS NOT SEEN THE BOOK! The dust jacket will probably be torn. EXPECT IT! Also if the seller lists themselves as shipping from ML (multiple locations), they are probably a drop shipper and are at the mercy of whomever they buy from as far as condition. Generally, they HAVEN'T SEEN THE BOOK EITHER! In most cases, if you contact these sellers, they will refund if you return the book, but, if you need the book on a time line, you're going to be stuck. There are a lot of good sellers out there, and some are even drop shippers, but, please, take a second to read and think about the description before you buy. It may be worth a buck more to get what you really want.
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by mlsestak (529 ) View Listings
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Please Read Product Descriptions Before Buying Vol 2--8/15/06
Oct 16, 2006 03:12 PM
nalasgma can i ask yo ua question?? i was looking at your history and since 2001 youve made at most 149 sales and yet you appear to spend a lot of time complaining about other sellers and posting your complaints at this forum. why do you do that? it would seem like a waste of time for someone in your position. are you just the worlds biggest busybody?
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Oct 16, 2006 03:36 PM
zzee2006, give it a rest.

nalasgma, is it time for Vol 3?



New and Used Video Games, Atari to XBOX

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Oct 16, 2006 03:49 PM
ok thanks diskounters and thanks nalasgma!
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Oct 16, 2006 05:55 PM
zzee....

I would have replied to your posts earlier...but I wasn't on the board...

If you read the OP on this thread you can see it was written by someone besides me....
I just organized it by board request, because the thread had become unwieldy.
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Oct 16, 2006 07:58 PM
As a fellow busybody of nalasgmaand the original poster, let me chime in that I love her, love her work, wish there were a dozen like her. If you have a business with management that communicates as poorly as the management here, it's a blessing of unparalleled magnitude to have someone as caring and helpful as she is.
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Please Read Product Descriptions Before Buying Vol 2--8/15/06
Oct 17, 2006 06:05 AM
thanks nalasgma for everything you do and good point from fritz. but may i contructively suggest that you point your barb at whoever is running half.com rather than fellow sellers. i have a seller who took my money three months ago and never responded to emails and i never got my money back from half (at least as of now)--theyre the true rip-off artists. thanks for everything you do!!
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Please Read Product Descriptions Before Buying Vol 2--8/15/06
Oct 17, 2006 06:28 AM
Half.com has a large responsibility in the textbook scam fiasco....However, if someone has the intention of defrauding another and setting up a scam they are not neccesarily blatant about it. From the Textbook Advice thread..... those were some things to think about before you buy. It might have saved you a bit of money, if you would have had the tools to know what to look for before you clicked the buy button.

When I buy textbooks, I follow those same guidelines. Look at the sellers you bought from, would any of the points in the advice thread have made you think twice before clicking the buy button?

If you would have read many of my posts, instead of reacting to them...you would know I am not a HDC cheerleader. That being said, I like this venue. I and many other folks who post on this board want this place to be successful (for our own financial gain), we want HDC management to take a more active role in the scam/bad seller situation, and we want this to be a safe place for buyers to make purchases.
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Please Read Product Descriptions Before Buying Vol 2--8/15/06
Oct 17, 2006 06:33 AM
Perhaps, you should go on the Trust and Safety board and read the HDC thread regarding fraud over there...

Please don't presume to know how I feel about HDC management.

Please don't presume that my politeness on the boards means anything other than I have manners.
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Please Read Product Descriptions Before Buying Vol 2--8/15/06
Oct 18, 2006 06:46 AM
I recently sold a hardcover 1979 Stephen King book. It had not yet been removed as I am only up to the letter H in going through my inventory. It was a book club edition hardcover. In looking at the other copies available it appeared that all others were BCE with the exception of three paperbacks listed under the hardcover listing.

I reported the three paperbacks but left the BCE's there. At the very least they are all hardcovers. And I am not sure if the book ever was released as an official hardcover. I did not bother checking at the other websites to clarify that.
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Oct 21, 2006 06:35 PM
I'm coming into this discussion very late, I realize, and have probably not read every post (my hand is starting to hurt from working the mouse[smile]). I probably need to clean my inventory-if I'm reading right we aren't supposed to list a variant of a category (different cover, issue, etc.) right? But I have a BUNCH of books that aren't in the catalog. I tried the "add" procedure and nothing ever happened. Am I missing something?

Thanks
muchcat
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Please Read Product Descriptions Before Buying Vol 2--8/15/06
Oct 21, 2006 07:13 PM
muchcat...
covers may be different as long as the ISBN and edition are an exact match.

Sometimes it is muze's error on cover or author...then click on details and follow through on the correction form



wish, I had better news for you.
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Please Read Product Descriptions Before Buying Vol 2--8/15/06
Oct 22, 2006 06:24 AM
muchcat
As to the Add procedure for MUZE, the consensis is that you can't. There's a two or three discussion threads on the failures of this catalog. Your best bet for the item not in the catalog is to find another site to list them on. Be careful of going to eBay with them as the fees can eat you up on lower cost or slower moving items.
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Oct 22, 2006 08:55 AM
Yes, I've experienced that. Ironically, I was never an EBay seller until I picked up a 1906 Ed. of Oscar Wilde's Salome and a couple of other treasures at a garage sale for 50 cents each. Salome was my very first listing, and it sold on EBay for $219 and two of the others went for $30-$60 and I've been addicted ever since. Now I can't hardly GIVE away a book on EBay. I've checked out Amazon (is that what's referred to here as "The River"?) and it looks like THEIR fees would eat me up for sure. Just vexes me that Half can't do better with older books.
muchcat
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Oct 22, 2006 09:39 AM
Azon is the river....

on some boards your posting might be removed if you mentioned a competitor site....

it doesn't happen as often now, but the term was "invented" for that reason
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Please Read Product Descriptions Before Buying Vol 2--8/15/06
Nov 21, 2006 02:01 PM
After you read the product description, please take a second to think about it.
This is an actual description for a 1984 paperback:
BRAND NEW FACTORY SEALED. 100% personal customer service support. in stock and ready to ship anywhere in the USA. Order it today and we will ship it today first class. Wholesale orders are now WELCOME. Our Reputation is our Legacy. DELIVERY 5-7 DAYS
Start with a 1984 paperback "Factory Sealed"? Go to a 1984 paperback available in "Wholesale" quanities? Then pick up on the 1st Class delivery taking "5 to 7 days" if shipped "today"?
Somebody was just too lazy to change their stock listing which probably means they don't have a clue what the book looks like.
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Jan 4, 2007 11:35 PM
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Feb 12, 2007 03:32 PM
It figures. I knew it was too good to be true. A book from my wishlist finally became available at an unbelievable price for it's purported condition (like new!). After checking feedback (99.4%), I bought it. Just received it....ex-library book with lots of acid marks ( from when labels weren't acid-free)bleeding through pages. Just chafes (chaps?) my hide! ]:)

Deb


LionessDeb http://shops.half.ebay.com/Lioness1964

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Please Read Product Descriptions Before Buying Vol 2--8/15/06
Feb 13, 2007 05:10 AM
Lioness-
I assume you've contacted the seller to start the refund process. If not, do so. There have been postings from sellers who admitted sending the wrong condition book out by mistake. Hopefully that was the case with yours. If that isn't the case, contacting the seller is the first step to filing a claim.
Good Luck.
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Feb 13, 2007 05:40 AM
Fritz,

Thanks, I wrote the seller through Half.com. No response yet (not everyone checks their e-mail as often as I do...haha). I think the 15th is the earliest I can file a claim.


LionessDeb http://shops.half.ebay.com/Lioness1964

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Please Read Product Descriptions Before Buying Vol 2--8/15/06
Sep 6, 2007 10:57 AM
Since half doesn't care about listing descriptions (we've been told often that buyers are NOT expected to read them), and now half is penalizing sellers for giving accurate descriptions when half changes the guidelines without actually notifying sellers and now the seller is accurately describing a condition violation, I've come to the sad conclusion that the only safe thing to do is as diskounters suggests, always email the seller (and for sellers, perhaps the only safe description is "email me if you would like a full description of this item"). If the seller does not respond or does not give a good description of the item for sale, don't buy it.
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