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commanderkang
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Description Search "glitch" is NOT a glitch. ALL READ THIS !

Oct 12, 2008 11:59 PM
The so-called "title and descriptions" search glitch has nothing to do with a "glitch." This is all an intentional action, done by eBay. I searched title only, for two generally used keywords, both words preceded by an attached + to make them required terms, and limited the search to a specific sub-category. By these limitations, I was only seeking a few specific results. The number of results returned was 13. I studied all 13 listings, in detail. Then I verified that all 13 listings also contained the same two keywords in BOTH the title and the description text. I then repeated the search with the "search title and descriptions" checkbox turned on. The number of results was 11. Then I compared both result lists and was not at all surprised at what I found. The only difference between the two lists was that the common-folk's listings were not included in the second search results. Only the PowerSellers' listings were returned the second time around. Only the PowerSellers were getting their listing descriptions read in the search. I have shared my findings with multiple persons, investigating independently, with only my findings as a base pattern for their own methods. All are in agreement that this is not a "glitch" and will attest to the same. We (all persons involved in the investigation) each possess extensive programming backgrounds in ANSI C, C++, Java, Perl, TCL, Borland, Pascal, HTML, Unix, Linux, WinBlowz, you name it, and are very experienced in both writing and maintaining large search engines.

The reason I was prompted to look into this situation was that my own sales began to drop off sharply after I recently rejected an offer from eBay to join their PowerSellers storm troopers. Even my listings' visibility had dropped below those of sellers with much lower status and reputation. My prices were consistently lower, my quality consistently higher, my customers consistently happier, and yet my visibility was consistently dropping. It is still unclear as to whether this is a global search structure modification or simply an added flag for common-folks, such as myself, who decided to reject the PowerSellers' offer. Logic drove me to investigate greed-driven eBay's abuse of its self-proclaimed power. It is an entirely narcissistic creature and as such can be broken by its own emotional frenzies. Greed is pure emotion, i.e.; never knowing when to stop, never having enough. The only emotion I have in this matter is IRE. Since I can't make money here any more, I'm posting all of my findings no matter how it offends eBay. The members deserve the truth and eBay can't do much more to me than they've already done with their tactics, so let them sit and spin...

The scope of this maliscious and perhaps even punitive abuse is so grand that it affects ALL eBay members. My potential (and past) customers are now being directed to sellers with lower quality products, higher prices, and slower shipping, having never even seen my latest listings among their search results. It's not just happening to me, it's happening to you too! This investigation will inevitably lead to another, and yet another, until many of eBay's skeletons are out of the closet. Chances are, their stock values will then take a nosedive, just as my sales did, and eBay will be court ordered into corporate restructuring, allowing a regulatory body to maintain and ensure a fair business platform.
It is unfortunate, but eBay has become a Dictatorship. Members (especially sellers) are merely peasants, being despoiled repeatedly in turn by both the taxing monarchy (eBay) and their collecting police body(PayPal). With rules inside of rule-sets, policies within policy-manuals, in chapters which do not exist in the light of day, and a support system that seems to vanish when the truth would cost them money. eBay believes they know everything and have the right to force everyone to conform to their idea of how better to pay eBay money. eBay cares nothing about anything other than itself and has lost its way. eBay needs to be scrapped and its executives fined for every dime they have, or imprisoned, or BOTH. Yet another Class Action Lawsuit has now taken shape above and perhaps this one will take them down permanently. Now that the truth is available for all to see, in the light of day, its own population can smash the dictatorship. That is how all dictatorships have been crushed in the past. Not with the bang of gunfire, but with a whisper from lips to ear, just before the blade quietly falls.

Knowledge must always be, just as the truth will set you...FREE !
Lookin' out for the folks and heading to the Amazon Marketplace to be treated fairly...
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rubberandfelt
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Dec 3, 2008 8:26 PM
What was my offense Kommander? Listing time says Dec-01 01:33. Click on ad. Starting time: Nov-30-08 19:33 Same goes for the items I listed at 19:34, 19:35, 19:36, 19:37 01:34, 01:35, 01:36, 01:37. Exactly six hours. Exactly.

I don't have the lowest price and no customer service. But I will "play ball" like a good little mindless drone. So why was I delayed 6 hours?
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natasha402
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Dec 4, 2008 12:04 PM
We had the same experience as Harley. We did a search of title and description in October because our items were going off with no lookers or bids. Using exact title and description, all items showed up as “0” listings. We asked “live help” to find one of our 30 day Bin with free shipping. They told us it wasn’t indexed yet. It had been on for 2 weeks, not indexed? Following week still not “indexed”. Page said “0” listing for our item.

8 emails later with no answer to our specific questions and being cut off 3 times, we removed the rest of our auctions. We have one more billing from eBay and then we are gone for good after many years, good feedback and 4.9/5.0 stars.

They don’t want good sellers, they want the big boys with bad feedback and even worse customer service. Now that’s something eBay can relate to don’t you think?

Nat
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faustus1962
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Dec 6, 2008 3:10 PM
In case anyone wonders, none of this is truly news. eBay has been playing games with its users since Day 3 (I'll give them credit for the first couple of days.)

As a user since 1998, I've seen most of it.

Bit by bit by bit, they do this kind of stuff.

They don't care.

They never have.

They will block every attempt at making things fair, unless it costs them money.

No customer support, canned answers, hackable "security" systems, purposely misdirecting programming, anything you can name. They get away with it because they are bigger than you, they are stronger than you, and they hold the power. For now.

eBay is a terrible, terrible company, and has been since....well, again, Day 3.

Just please be aware of that and proceed accordingly.
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twofrien
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Dec 6, 2008 6:20 PM
SAME HERE.. what gives?? I ALWAYS had a 100% selling rqate, NOW I am lucky to find a bidder, this is crapola to the nth degree! WHAT on Heqaven's name are they trying to do, THIS is ludicrous, coupled with the latest DSR bullcrapola, why am I even still here???
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miroad
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Dec 7, 2008 9:49 PM
Don't feel alone. I'm a gold powerseller and don't receive any better support from Ebay than I did when I wasn't. It's patently true that neither Ebay nor Paypal care about the ideas or complaints of Ebay members; the only motive is profit. Ebay's child programmers are continually subjecting me to beta testing of their infantile "new search experiences" and "new listing formats", all of which are poorly conceived and executed. They actually make it harder for me to find items I'm looking for, not easier (their supposed intent). Their only goal is increasing revenue. In truth, Ebay demonstrates little or no interest in buyer or seller rights or its own integrity, most especially when it comes to its ever-increasing apetite for more revenues. Eventually, and hopefully, the feds will break up this monopoly and create some legitimate competition. The more unresponsive Ebay becomes the sooner this will happen. I can't wait.
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commanderkang
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Jan 22, 2009 5:11 AM
Although the 6-hour flu continues on some targeted listings, the rest has become as foreseen;
Disabled until they decide to start it up again with the so-called "glitch..."

I (and others) have relentlessly continued compiling the research into the DSR Manipulation and abuse with very successful results. Some of the evidence would make most hysterically laugh as to how ridiculous the manipulation is carried out. It can be visually tracked and recorded from nearly moment-to-moment in many cases. This usually took place shortly after the system update in the early hours (approx. 10:00 GMT). Then a short period would usually follow where the numbers continued to drop a few points across the board until reaching their new "common" low point for the day. It has also become nearly impossible to rise above certain "common" high points. Seems eBay has placed a nice "cap" on the ratings for many sellers to keep them "under eBay's control." Unless a buyer hits you with really low ratings, which put your ratings in the tank for days at a time. The low ratings are still worth their old stock values. It's just the good (yes, even 5-star) ratings that have dropped in value (like eBay's stock continues to do). Sellers have had single days where they received 10 or more positive feedback plus 5-Star ratings in all cases without a single increase of .01 in any category across the board. The ratings then continued to drop the following morning in the usual pattern of ratings theft performed by eBay's "seller maintenance" gurus.
Such a fair system that it makes me cry with tears of justice.
(That last sentence was just flippancy.)

There is nothing to speculate about concerning any of the evidence. We now have over 4500 consecutive, time-stamped, full detail screenshots of various Seller Dashboards being manipulated right before their eyes. All were captured with painstaking accuracy and have been maintained throughout the group so that all involved would have the full set of screenshots rather than just their own. The screenshots were taken along with those of the feedback and ratings at the same time in each case. So there's a lot of images involved. My personal collection has exceeded 720 to date. The sellers have made direct email contact with over 90% of their buyers prior to the posting of feedback to ensure that they could accurately track the ratings as they were posted.

Even when there were no expiring ratings that would be due to "drop off" from the 30-day calculations, the numbers still drop as eBay seeks to cheat sellers out of their earned discounts. It is almost like watching would-be liquor store thieves planning their assault in front of the building as the police car pulls into the lot from behind them.
Oh well, not only is it usually driven by greed, but crime also makes you stupid.

eBay is probably too busy trying to stop all of the computer crashes caused by the new "My eBay" (yeah, My eBay, what a joke!) to busy themselves with little details. Like doing a better job of hiding their criminal activities.

I am certain that a great deal of sellers will now have cause to reflect on their recent suspicions with renewed motivation and updated ideas. Sellers reading this should employ their own research and analysis to enjoy a new dashboard experience;
"The experience of being cheated in broad daylight like trying to find that Red Queen among the 3 cards held by the street urchin."

How's that for a "bump" in the thread? :)

--CommanderKang
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ezrider327
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Jan 22, 2009 5:25 AM
Interesting reading...
This has made me want to ask one question -

Since when is an INTENTIONAL ACTION a GLITCH????
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commanderkang
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Jan 22, 2009 5:33 AM
LOL - You have to buy the "eBay" dictionary. :)
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ezrider327
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Jan 22, 2009 6:42 AM
FOTFLMAO have to get that from go-daddy.com Ebay search won't find it
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Jan 23, 2009 4:40 AM
"" Lookin' out for the folks and heading to the Amazon Marketplace to be treated fairly...""

Don't agree with ya there though, just two days ago I was shopping on Amazon BUT due to Amazon raising the price almost $70 from when I put it in my cart to when I was paying for it, they LOST the sale from me - this was on a $225.00 item, + $70 is a big amount to just ad on a customers purchase from putting it in the cart to going to pay for it. So thanks Amazon for raising the price and taking off the free shipping when I went to pay for items ALREADY IN MY CART at lower costs. Amazon's loss not mine, you would think as bad as the economy is companies wouldn't try play games like this and appreciate customers.

AND I got it cheaper from another supplier, a little aggravating but they did save me money LOL but unfortunately for them they lost the sale completely. So to Amazon THANKS for saving me money, sorry you didn't get any of it.

The internet is a BIG place and just about ANYTHING can be found on it, for as little as you want to pay OR for as MUCH as you want to pay.

This purchase I made is a fine example of just that, Priced from $200 - $600 depending where I went, the ironic part is Ebay was the higher end of that price range

So why do these idiots keep "shooting themselves in the foot" ????? KEEPING CUSTOMERS is what it is ALL ABOUT, whether it be by low prices, just keeping them happy, or BOTH. Without your customer base YOU DO NOT EXIST.
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commanderkang
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Jan 23, 2009 5:48 AM
Well, I was referring their treatment of sellers and buyers alike and you needed to look at the shipping to see what the qualifications were. But, I'll get off that subject completely since you should be posting it on Amazon. :)
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ezrider327
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Jan 23, 2009 2:13 PM
Yes, I did when It was put in the cart ship was free but when I went to pay the price went up and shipping was now $23 and it has been posted over there too.

SORRY for getting side tracked on a great post


free bump up
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