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pacificbrim
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How did that gay marriage election turn out? Ha :^O ha :^O ha :^O ha :^O

Nov 4, 2009 12:23 PM
Best news of the night. Sensibility reigned, even in a blue state.

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PORTLAND, Maine — Voters on Tuesday repealed the state’s same sex marriage law after an emotionally charged campaign that drew large numbers to the polls and focused national attention on Maine. With 87 percent of precincts reporting, the campaign to overturn Maine’s same-sex marriage law won with 53 percent of the vote vs. 47 percent opposed to Question 1, according to unofficial results compiled by the Bangor Daily News.

“Question 1 has passed,” Frank Schubert, campaign manager of Stand for Marriage Maine, announced in Portland. “It has all come together tonight and the institution of marriage has been preserved.”

About 40 people who worked on the Yes on 1 campaign cheered as they heard the announcement by computer hookup at Jeff’s Catering in Brewer.

“We went up against tremendous odds,” Marc Mutty, public affairs director for the Roman Catholic Diocese of Portland who has been on loan to the campaign, said from Portland. “We all know we were the little guy going up against the big guy, but we prevailed. We prevailed because the people of Maine — the silent majority — the folks back home spoke with their votes.

In a defiant speech to several hundred lingering supporters, No on 1 campaign manager Jesse Connolly pledged that his side “will not quit until we know where every single one of these votes lives.” (Oooooooooh, scary :^O )
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richie_blue
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Re: How did that gay marriage election turn out? Ha :^O ha :^O ha :^O ha :^O

Nov 4, 2009 10:01 PM
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C,mon lordbinford, how would you describe the people you're mocking in your post?

Redneck?
Knuckle-draggers?
Hoosiers?
Hillbillies?
Dumb?
Stupid?

No different than if I posted photos of 2 men or 2 women and the inferences you could make.

Prejudice cuts both ways, doesn't it lord?
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Nov 4, 2009 10:07 PM
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Anyone who doesn't stand behind our troops are free to stand in front of them!
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Nov 4, 2009 10:08 PM
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Nov 4, 2009 11:11 PM
Prejudice cuts both ways, doesn't it lord?

It may. The difference is that Lord, or anyone else, isn't collecting signature, spending money, making phone calls, and generally doing what ever he can to ruin these people's wedding day.

It's one thing to have a prejudice against a particular group, it's another to actually work to destroy their chance at happiness.

Those people in Lord's picture had their wedding and it was nobody's business but their own.

It's a shame right wingers don't share the morality that one should obey the golden rule.
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Nov 5, 2009 12:07 AM
Sadly, even the people that are for gay marriage only think about the sexual part.

Marriage is a lot more.

It is a special bond shared between two souls, who tie the wedding knot after promising to be companions for a lifetime. A spiritual union. Showing their love and commitment to eachother in good times and bad times.

Why would anyone want to deny someone this kind of a union?

The key to successful marriage is love, understanding, mutual respect, trust, commitment and togetherness.

A question for those opposed ...........................

Are your marriages threatened, if gays have the same privilege? Are your marriages only held together by the word "marriage"? Isn't there a lot more to marriage than just sexuality? Or are your brains really in a gutter, when you see a loving gay couple?

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Nov 5, 2009 1:34 AM
Prejudice cuts both ways, doesn't it lord?

It may. The difference is that Lord, or anyone else, isn't collecting signature, spending money, making phone calls, and generally doing what ever he can to ruin these people's wedding day.

It's one thing to have a prejudice against a particular group, it's another to actually work to destroy their chance at happiness.

Those people in Lord's picture had their wedding and it was nobody's business but their own.

It's a shame right wingers don't share the morality that one should obey the golden rule.


No it's a shame that left wingers don't share the "morality".

Just as in post 28, lefties won't hesitate to use "rednecks" or "hoosiers" or "knuckledraggers" to describe the people in those photos, but will get all offended when someone might disparage a group that they support.

What it proves is that Mr "Tolerant" lord binford isn't tolerant at all, and in essence, one side of the aisle is not any better than the other.
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laerley
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Nov 5, 2009 2:10 AM
I have no problem with gay partnerships, but do not think it should be called "marriage." But I would never rally against gay marriage if that was on the ballot here, nor would I make a fuss about it.

I feel much the same way about partnerships between a men and women (whatever you choose to call them).

Now, that doesn’t mean I am gay, or that I support gay “partnerships.” It just means that I believe that whether gay or straight, a “partnership” should be between the “partners” (NOT the public).

Now, I suppose I should add that if there IS a God, God may choose to be involved…But, it’s d@mn sure, none of the neighbors business, and none of the governments business.

I think it should be up to the individual involved as to who they choose to marry/partnership. If you want to marry someone of a different race, someone from a different country, someone with different color eyes..it should be NONE of the voters business. If you choose to live with someone, but NOT marry them, it should be NONE of the voters business!

What I object to, is my government, and my tax dollars subsidizing marriages of any type! In other words, I think income tax should be based on Income (NOT marital status).

Once again, I consider marriage/partnerships to be a “personal choice” (much the same as deciding whether to become a vegetarian, or a Mormon ;)!
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Nov 5, 2009 5:10 AM
Some people can live a long life, and not see that everything is not all black and white,
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Nov 5, 2009 5:18 AM
I've got no problem with legalizing gay marriage, but I confess to a bit of irritation when I saw some spokespeople blaming Obama for their defeat on this issue, claiming he hadn't done enough for them.

It seems obvious to me that the opposition to this measure probably comes primarily to folks who would see a strong Obama endorsement as another reason to vote against it. In fact it could have energized additional group of opponents.

Not to mention my vague recollection that this is not something Obama wholeheartedly endorses. So perhaps they were fortunate to get the "subtle" support they got.


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Nov 5, 2009 5:22 AM
Now that laerley has posted and told us what he/she thinks, we can consider the topic complete and decided.
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Nov 5, 2009 5:24 AM
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Obama has publicly stated he does not favor gay marriage and marriage should be only between one man and one woman.

Now, unless you one is saying Obama lied to the public, then we must take him for his word and that is he does not agree with gay marriage.
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Nov 5, 2009 5:35 AM
Obama has the personal belief that marriage is between a man and a woman, but he does not favor imposing his belief on others. He is against a constitutional amendment so defining marriage and will not challenge judicial or legislative findings expanding gay rights.

He hasn't lied to the public about that anywhere that I can see.

But I don't see how anyone could expect him to lead a crusade for something that does not agree with his personal beliefs.


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Nov 5, 2009 5:36 AM
Just because one doesn't favor something, doesn't mean he/she must forbid it for someone else. Not everything that is good for you is also good for me.

Why must one be so petty and not let someone else have the same privileges that one claims for themselves. It takes true character to allow someone else the same things that one claims for himself.

Are you really so insecure in your marriage that you need the WORD to keep it together?

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Nov 5, 2009 6:51 AM
Miarrage = 1 man + 1 woman.

Its a fact of life. ;)
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Nov 5, 2009 7:04 AM
A man made fact that can be changed.

Gay marriage is rare in history—but not unknown. The Roman emperor Nero, who ruled from A.D. 54 to 68, twice married men in formal wedding ceremonies, and forced the Imperial Court to treat them as his wives. In second- and third-century Rome, homosexual weddings became common.

Marriage’s primary purpose was to bind women to men, and thus guarantee that a man’s children were truly his biological heirs. Through marriage, a woman became a man’s property

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