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Ebay to include shipping in final value fee calculation
Mar 15, 2011 06:12 AM
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Ebay to include shipping in final value fee calculation

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Ebay to include shipping in final value fee calculation
Mar 15, 2011 06:12 AM
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by abbys135 (1116 ) View Listings
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Re: Ebay to include shipping in final value fee calculation
Apr 20, 2011 03:43 PM
I am not happy about this. I have never made money on shipping and actually refund extra shipping paid. Now to make up for the money I am losing I am going to have to charge more for shipping which now has to be included in the cost of the item. I have been selling regularly for 5 years now and am more than frustrated with the was sellers are getting screwed over and over. I am going to have no choice soon but to look elsewhere. Hopefully someone will come along that is both buyer and seller friendly. Ebay has lost all of its positives in my book!!!
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Re: Ebay to include shipping in final value fee calculation
Apr 20, 2011 04:36 PM
"Dear Buyers,
Due to Ebay’s recent decision to start charging Ebay Sellers a 9% final value fee on shipping charges, on top of the 3% we already pay on shipping payments made through Paypal (An Ebay company), I have no option but to increase my shipping charges accordingly. Ebay will now be making 12% on the shipping charges you pay."

You are not allowed to have any negative wording in your listings about shipping or Ebay TOS anymore either.
And to be honest, buyers just want to buy stuff and will move on to the next seller who is more positive. Unfortunately it sucks to be a seller here but if you are going to stay, my idea would be to try to get all the buyers you can, not put them off with negativity.

The Ranch, Betsy, Artflame....all looking good. If sellers could decide on one venue and go there, the buyers will follow. Sellers are buyers too...............
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Re: Ebay to include shipping in final value fee calculation
Apr 20, 2011 04:49 PM
I believe the ticket here is to buy as low if not lower than you ever have before to offset any increase from the middle man.
If I'm looking to buy from someone it says it best on my business card....I'm the dollar guy.
"Buy low sell high" as it's been since the beginning of time.
One more if I may...."adapt or become extinct."
(I meant that last statement in the nicest possible way)
--Von
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Re: Ebay to include shipping in final value fee calculation
Apr 23, 2011 01:03 PM
and they say they do this to encourage lower shipping price, which is exactly the opposite. people raise their shipping price to accommodate for the fee. This makes ebay less competitive compared to other places on ebay. I don't know what they are thinking.
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Re: Ebay to include shipping in final value fee calculation
Apr 23, 2011 01:56 PM
"Buy low sell high" as it's been since the beginning of time. One more if I may...."adapt or become extinct."



Von, I couldn't agree with you more.

I have no problem with whatever eBay did, or does. It is what it is! You either run with it, run from it, or get ran over, period!

(and I'm saying the above in the nicest possible way)


History is a set of lies agreed upon... ~Napoleon Bonaparte~

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Re: Ebay to include shipping in final value fee calculation
May 1, 2011 08:59 PM
I sorta understand the problem with the sellers who have "Buy it now" for 0.10 and then charge $30 shipping for a $25 item to avoid FVF. I'm not sure what the solution to that is (it's been going on a LONG time) but I would imagine there is software that would flag auctions that have super low prices with way above normal shipping costs and if this is what the seller is doing, remove those sellers from the system after a warning.

I'm like some others posting here who charge ONLY what the shipping costs me and if the estimated shipping is more that a few cents over what my actual cost is, I refund it when I return from the post office. I recently had to add a handling fee in because most items I sell are expencive (american indian artwork) and fragil and I can't ship in good faith with no insurance. Ebay won't let me charge for insurance or make it optional which I find silly. I lose money on the shipping supplies I have to buy like tape and bubble wrap etc making sure the items arrive safely. Plus what it costs in my time to package and deliver this stuff to the post office, sometimes I spend 30 minutes in line just to send the stuff off. i was OK with all this

Now I lose more money on shipping, so ebay can make a profit off the shipping they want me to NOT make a profit on? All this seems very counter productive to me.
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Re: Ebay to include shipping in final value fee calculation
May 2, 2011 09:16 PM
This is some complete BS. How can eBay expect sellers to be fair when eBay isn't being fair? We charge $4.95 on a flat rate box because that is what it costs us and the buyer knows it. You are taking money from the sellers in a poor fashion. If we increase the shipping fees to accommodate the new fees, the buyer will think we are shafting them on the shipping fees. This is a no win situation.
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Re: Ebay to include shipping in final value fee calculation
May 5, 2011 11:31 AM
I just got ripped of. I sold my first item for 9.99 and 9 shipping.
Shipping came out to be 9.37, which i expected as it was a heavy small box of knifes, but the surprise came from the shipping fees which basically was j/as identical to a FVF. WTF???
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Re: Ebay to include shipping in final value fee calculation
May 5, 2011 03:21 PM
That's it. I won't be selling anything with ebay from now on. Craigslist from now on.
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Re: Ebay to include shipping in final value fee calculation
May 10, 2011 07:55 AM
This is really a rip off by eBay. Shipping is a pass through, not something they should take a commission on.
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Re: Ebay to include shipping in final value fee calculation
May 10, 2011 10:29 AM
Hey, how do you spell E-bay....GREED! My wife and I both sell on here and have tried to make a living due to being unemployed. Now thanks to greed-bay, or fee-bay, which ever you prefer have have lost a lot of money that we did not have due to this new "unannounced" inflated "Final Value Shipping Fee". What a freaking joke! We are now both withdrawing, and canceling our e-bay accounts. I hope others will follow suit, and show the greed machine what happens when you get too greedy. What is worse we charged low, low prices on our merchandise, and we shipped with actual shipping fees not inflated ones. You just lost two very honest sellers crap-bay. BYE-BYE YOU SUCK!!!! With your new 50 free no posting fees I thought maybe, just maybe you were looking for out for your sellers just a little bit. I don't think anybody saw the knife in your other hand as you hugged us with one, and slit our throats with the other.
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Re: Ebay to include shipping in final value fee calculation
May 10, 2011 08:08 PM
It is obvious that Ebay is trying to force seller's to offer free shipping. This is an attempt by Ebay to compete with Amazon, Overstock, Walmart, etc. who offer free shipping or minimal shipping. It seems that Ebay is leaning towards a full retail type marketplace and is steering away from the auction part of the business.

For people who sell items that weigh over a couple pounds, free shipping isn't an option. In order to offset the new fees, we need to increase our handling charges or increase the cost of the item being sold. Higher item prices result in lost sales; increased handling charges has a negative affect on our Seller's Dashboard.

Inundate Ebay with your concerns about this terrible business decision; send emails, letters, phone calls; postings on discussion boards, etc.; we need to speak up and let our voices be heard.
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Re: Ebay to include shipping in final value fee calculation
May 11, 2011 10:27 AM
I was unaware of this until yesterday then I checked my account fees to see if it was true.Today I am a very angry person.As customers we are being treated no different than most other corporations treat their customers.
What comes to mind is the management at Enron bragging about screwing little old ladies then laughing about it.
Make no mistake,we the sellers,are the little old ladies.
Shame on you ebay.
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Re: Ebay to include shipping in final value fee calculation
May 11, 2011 12:54 PM
I too was extremely disappointed with Ebay's decision to implement the new fee on shipping costs. As someone else pointed out earlier, if they really wanted to stop the "99cent item, $50 shipping" sellers they could certainly have done so in other ways. It all boils down to greed/desperation. What upsets me most is the way they candy-coated the decision, presenting it as a way to save buyers money and enhance their buying experience. Do they really think we are that STUPID???

However, my spirits lifted yesterday when I received an email from R*by Pl*za, R*uby L*ne's sister store. Effective June 1st, it will be completely free to list there through 2012. No listing fees, no FVF, completely Free! They are doing this to try to build up the site, I have been on there since they opened April 2010 and I like it alot. I plan to list most of my things there, then when I want to sell auction style I will do so here on Ebay, but I also recently opened an account on "The Bid" site and will give that a try too.

I had considered trying an Ebay store too, until they pulled this shipping fee stunt X-( I think I will wait to hear seller's feedback re: how this new fee has effected them before giving that any more thought. Ebay store: a monthly fee, an insertion fee, a FVF, shipping fee, Paypal fees... :_| ... is there anything left after all the fees have been deducted???

Caroline
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Re: Ebay to include shipping in final value fee calculation
May 14, 2011 02:36 PM
final value fees shipping cost ?????
Its a joke god help me...
30.00 shipping cost - cost me 2.70 --- CRAZY...
The 866-540-3229 ebay number is no good
for dealing with anything... The OVERSEAS people just QUOTE ebay's RULES... NO COMMON SENSE REPLIES AT ALL...
Been with ebay since 2000 and yes I like them...
BUT just like the CABLE company and others now ebay is looking a little NUTTY charging fees on Shipping...
SO PAYPAL AND EBAY STICKING THE SCREWS TO US ... VERY SAD...
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Re: Ebay to include shipping in final value fee calculation
May 15, 2011 01:26 PM
I'm with Lukeone37, I'm on my way out too. I am a very small seller on Ebay, mostly a buyer, and when I get gouged for the shipping fees for a flat rate padded priority mail envelope that cost 4.95 to mail and that's exactly what I pay at the post office, I can't afford to lose anymore money than I do at Paypal already. The post office doesn't say, "aww, we'll give you a discount since Ebay robbed you." What the heck Ebay, can't you just leave well enough alone and put Ebay back to the way it was? Fun and inexpensive. Why do you have to ruin a good thing? You're in the business of providing an auction site, not a variety store for yourself to make money.
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Re: Ebay to include shipping in final value fee calculation
May 15, 2011 08:28 PM
I think you are right. I have noticed alot of sellers listing items for 99 cents and charging 25.00 shipping. There was alot of them. I never bought from them because it made me mad. I even emailed one asking why the shipping cost was so high and never got a response. It always happens this way, the people who are dishonest make it hard for all of us who are following the rules. I sold on Ebay for about a year and really enjoyed it. I haven't listed anything in quite a few weeks and don't plan to ever sell again. I am also having trouble with PayPal. I have provided a credit card for my sellers account, but they say that I need to provide my bank account information to continue using them. I'm spending all the money I have and then I will no longer use them. It just seems like it is more trouble than its worth and it is now longer fun for me. Too many problems and fees.
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Re: Ebay to include shipping in final value fee calculation
May 16, 2011 08:26 AM
Just got the 'Final Value Fee on Shipping' deal. What the frig?

Is that also on actual shipping costs?
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Re: Ebay to include shipping in final value fee calculation
May 16, 2011 08:42 AM
Yup

Next month they'll add a final value fee on your dinner too
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Re: Ebay to include shipping in final value fee calculation
May 16, 2011 09:43 AM
There should be new site going against ebay offering a completely free market place
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Re: Ebay to include shipping in final value fee calculation
May 16, 2011 03:06 PM
eBay is getting out of control. I'm still pissed off about the feedback system, and how a buyer can ruin my reputation if he is just bitter and without merit, but I can't leave negative feedback for deadbeat bidders. eBay's policies actually encourage bad behavior from buyers, and gives them the option to walk away from a transaction without punishment.

The new fees are unfair as well. I sold an item the other day for $42.00, which included shipping costs. By the time eBay took their cut from fees and shipping, I was depositing $22.00 into my bank account from Paypal. An almost 50% cut in fees make it pointless to sell anymore.

eBay needs to realize without sellers, buyers wouldn't exist, thus rendering eBay useless.

End of rant.

Member since March, 2000
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Re: Ebay to include shipping in final value fee calculation
May 16, 2011 03:09 PM
Just got the 'Final Value Fee on Shipping' deal. What the frig?

Is that also on actual shipping costs?


I also just got a final shipping fee charged to my account for $0.72 for two items I sold three weeks ago.

Can they legally charge me for a transaction that has already been completed. I mean I've been selling for over 11 years. Can they go back and apply a shipping fee to everything I've ever sold?

feeBay SUCKS!
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Re: Ebay to include shipping in final value fee calculation
May 16, 2011 03:09 PM
I have to assume that the $22 deposit was after you paid shipping, and eBay didn't get 50%....but more like $4 maybe???
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Re: Ebay to include shipping in final value fee calculation
May 16, 2011 03:18 PM
I have to assume that the $22 deposit was after you paid shipping, and eBay didn't get 50%....but more like $4 maybe???


They got a little over $10.00 with all fees combined. I paid about $8.75 in shipping.

The point is that they take way too much compared to years ago.

You can't honestly be siding with them I hope...
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