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Graphic Novel Artists and Writers

Nov 2, 2009 8:50 AM
I just created a group on Facebook for anyone interested in or presently working on a graphic novel. I'm hoping it will attract enough members so we can critique each others work, offer tips, instruction etc. If you are interested, the link is Link

Cheers! Tracy
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Re: Graphic Novel Artists and Writers

Nov 2, 2009 3:13 PM
Thanks for the post, Tracy

When I think of graphic novel, I think of adult literature or close to it.

You mean Illustrated books?

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Nov 3, 2009 4:19 PM
Awesome winged rabbits.

Quite a project you got going.

I've had a couple graphic novels in mind to do for years, but finding the blocks of time to do them is so difficult.

Wishing you the best.
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Re: Graphic Novel Artists and Writers

Nov 3, 2009 10:48 PM
I just created a group on Facebook for anyone interested in or presently working on a graphic novel. I'm hoping it will attract enough members so we can critique each others work, offer tips, instruction etc. If you are interested, the link is Link

Cheers! Tracy



I am confused, with your novel, went to the site looking for some great expectation of a story, couldn't find it, the print was so small I gave up on eye strain. Not meaning to be critical but the print is to small for comfort.

Like do you have main characters in your novel with a story of sorts?
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Re: Graphic Novel Artists and Writers

Nov 3, 2009 10:52 PM
Thanks for the post, Tracy

When I think of graphic novel, I think of adult literature or close to it.

You mean Illustrated books?




I don't understand the difference between adult literature and just literature.
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Re: Graphic Novel Artists and Writers

Nov 3, 2009 10:54 PM
Thanks for the post, Tracy

When I think of graphic novel, I think of adult literature or close to it.

You mean Illustrated books?



according to web definitions a graphic novel is "A graphic novel is a type of comic book, usually with a lengthy and complex storyline similar to those of novels" is that what you are refering to?
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Re: Graphic Novel Artists and Writers

Nov 3, 2009 11:10 PM
Actually my long life dream is to make a graphic novel about old masters like Rembrandt ,Da Vinci, Goya or Picasso - they have very interesting life stories. A few years ago I created two pages about Picasso painting Guernica - can be viewed at Link - sorry it is in slovak language only. I realized I need a good writer to write the story properly in the comics style - until now I did not find anybody. If anybody was interested, try to contact me ;)
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Re: Graphic Novel Artists and Writers

Nov 4, 2009 5:31 AM
Michalart that is a really nice idea and awesome pages-you definitely have a talent for comic art!-graphic novels nowadays have anything and everything as their subject from historical biographies to adult to childrens-pretty well anything the writer or artist can think of and it would be wonderful to see you attempt even a first chapter and get it out there for some response. You'll know by the response whether it is worth proceeding-I think it is-what a great learning tool as well for schools etc.

I've often thought it is one of the few art areas that is experiencing growth and with a movement away from traditional comics and towards more unique looks, it seems that the market is only going to get stronger. A trip to the local comic store nowadays has a myriad of books, so many different styles and subjects it is mind boggling. Also alot of regular fiction novels are being turned into graphic novels. One of my favorites, "The Stand" by Stephen King, is now out as a graphic novel tho I wasn't that happy with the graphic novel but still its a major shift.

These things do take a long time esp. if you are doing them on your own. I've been working on mine for several years, have been through four rewrites and am now finally just beginning the inking stage.

Deep mentioned something about not being able to read the copy. Well dear, there is no copy yet on the one and a half pages I scanned to put up as examples so I'm not quite sure what you were reading. The copy won't be going on until they are completed. I do have to post a summary of the story tho and I do apologize for the blurred scans-haven't had much time for computer work-but again, the site I am hoping is going to attract people who are interested in beginning their own graphic novel or are presently working on one. Also Deep if you'd like to critique my story, perhaps you should wait until I've posted a summary as it is very long.

I'm hoping to have a peer group that we can reach out and help each other etc as these are big projects.

Adult literature vs. literature. Adult literature would be anything the under 18 crowd shouldn't be reading-a lot of sex or violence. There are many graphic novels today geared towards the younger crowd or to adults who prefer a good fairy or fantasy tale rather than gore and sex.

Sycamore: I know what you mean. I've spent several years on this project but it's been worth it-I work on it when I get scraps of time here and there-I've had to tell people SO many times that this is delayed or that is delayed-time is a precious commodity! If you are passionate about something whether it be a graphic novel, a painting, a musical instrument-anything-I think its important to make that decision to try it out!

Cheers! Tracy
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Re: Graphic Novel Artists and Writers

Nov 4, 2009 5:35 AM
One thing I did want to mention is that a Graphic Novel is not necessarily a comic. Graphic Novels are just that....novels...and have a long and often complicated plot/story line and are usually many pages.

Also the artwork varies considerably from the stereotypical dramatic perspective drawings of the usual comic book art. Many graphic novels do utilise the same form of illustration but many have ventured forth and are creating artwork that is truly new and unique. Personally I'm going with traditional animal illustration-it's what I like, my clients like and the target group enjoys so no photoshop etc. strictly handdrawn.

If anyone is interested in perhaps venturing into this area, I suggest you go to your local comic store one day and check out the wide variety of graphic novels that are now available. You will be surprised!

Have a great day! Tracy
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Re: Graphic Novel Artists and Writers

Nov 4, 2009 2:01 PM
Michalart that is a really nice idea and awesome pages-you definitely have a talent for comic art!-graphic novels nowadays have anything and everything as their subject from historical biographies to adult to childrens-pretty well anything the writer or artist can think of and it would be wonderful to see you attempt even a first chapter and get it out there for some response. You'll know by the response whether it is worth proceeding-I think it is-what a great learning tool as well for schools etc.
Tracy


Well, Tracy, I know that to create a comics about old masters is great idea, but unfortunately it remains on the level of idea only. I cooperate as an graphic designer with a few publishers in my country. I shared with them my enthusiasm about that great idea. They just noticed: Great idea, unfortunately nobody will publish it here. It would not earn enough for expenses...
So, after few years of hoping I gave it up, but true reason is I do not have proper texts, I would need somebody to write the script.
I wish you success,
Michal
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Re: Graphic Novel Artists and Writers

Nov 4, 2009 2:37 PM
One thing I did want to mention is that a Graphic Novel is not necessarily a comic. Graphic Novels are just that....novels...and have a long and often complicated plot/story line and are usually many pages.

Also the artwork varies considerably from the stereotypical dramatic perspective drawings of the usual comic book art. Many graphic novels do utilise the same form of illustration but many have ventured forth and are creating artwork that is truly new and unique. Personally I'm going with traditional animal illustration-it's what I like, my clients like and the target group enjoys so no photoshop etc. strictly handdrawn.

If anyone is interested in perhaps venturing into this area, I suggest you go to your local comic store one day and check out the wide variety of graphic novels that are now available. You will be surprised!

Have a great day! Tracy




Publishing a book costs a lot of money, and no publisher in the right mind will publish a book that they believe will not sellThat is not meaning to say that a or any book does not have merit, most just do not have a big enough market out there to break even much less make a buck or two.


Books are a great way to make an income if the book holds longevity, a dollar here and a dollar there over the years add up, that is what owning the copyright is all about,

And yes animal things do sell well especially if down in good taste.
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