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Help please with J.J. Audubon Picture

Nov 6, 2009 8:14 PM
Hello. I am hoping someone may be able to help. I have searched several sites featuring Audubon prints, and I cannot find any that look quite like this one. The print on mine is different than the others and I cannot find any to compare it to. Any idea what type of "print" this is or where I should go to look for info. Thanks for any help you can offer.
Jen
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Re: Help please with J.J. Audubon Picture

Nov 7, 2009 1:03 AM
Hi, bn,

From The Birds of America ,,, by James John Audubon, Philadelphia, 1832:



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It's also known as the Mottled Owl. Yours appears to be from The Birds of America, the Amsterdam Edition (not the Havell Edition).

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The plate size should measure 24 1/2 x 19 7/8 inches and overal measurement is 26 3/4 x 39 7/8 inches (approx).

If this were an authentic hand colored Havel, the paper would be watermarked with J Whatman and would be plate 97. To look for a watermark, hold it up to the light. Also, compare the plate size and overall size to this one:

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Here is the Havell Edition of Plate: 97 (XCVII) "Mottled Owl" on the site of a well-known dealer in Audobons:

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Hope this helps.

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Re: Help please with J.J. Audubon Picture

Nov 7, 2009 9:22 AM
Hi. This one appears to have been cut for framing, then mounted on artist's board. It measures approx. 20" x 25.5". Where would the watermark be, i.e. center, edges, etc.? Thanks so much.

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Re: Help please with J.J. Audubon Picture

Nov 9, 2009 7:26 AM
Hi. Does anyone know where a watermark would typically be found on this type of picture? I'm just wondering if they are normally placed on the outermost edges. Thanks!

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Re: Help please with J.J. Audubon Picture

Nov 9, 2009 8:50 AM
If this is in fact an Amsterdam print, there should be a Schut & Zonen watermark along the long edge of the paper (as far as I know).

If the sheet was trimmed for framing it may have been cut off.

If the sheet is mounted it may not be visible, even if present.
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Re: Help please with J.J. Audubon Picture

Nov 9, 2009 8:52 AM
p.s. You do not have an original vintage Audubon print. At best, it is a trimmed and mounted Amsteram edition (modern reproduction).
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