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So, What about the new rule---Buyer to destroy "non-Authenic" items??

May 11, 2009 3:25 PM

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Better be careful about selling anything that a buyer could decide isn't authenic.... And, yes, it is, apparently, at the Buyer's whim.........

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"What happens if a buyer believes an item is not authentic?
When buyers file a claim alleging that the item is not authentic, we require the buyer to destroy the item. Once a buyer confirms destruction of the item, we will reimburse the buyer or provide an eBay coupon."

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Re: So, What about the new rule---Buyer to destroy "non-Authenic" items??

May 11, 2009 4:20 PM

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Can 'you' say lawsuit? Most anyone could not know if an item is authentic, only diehard collectors could. What if the seller 'said something wrong....will the retaliation then be the destruction of the item? This is a really dumb move. JMHO.

Re: So, What about the new rule---Buyer to destroy "non-Authenic" items??

May 11, 2009 4:22 PM

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I just thought about this again. How can Ebay, or anyone else, tell someone to destroy something that isn't Ebay's item? That just cannot be legal. Who thought this up?

Re: So, What about the new rule---Buyer to destroy "non-Authenic" items??

May 11, 2009 4:51 PM

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One could argue that Ebay is advocating the destruction of evidence if the item is, in fact, "non-authentic" !

Re: So, What about the new rule---Buyer to destroy "non-Authenic" items??

May 11, 2009 4:55 PM

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Yes, Yes, and Yes!!!

Those are exactly my thoughts, too. Couldn't BELIEVE they would make such a dumb rule!!

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Re: So, What about the new rule---Buyer to destroy "non-Authenic" items??

May 11, 2009 5:41 PM

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It's not dumb, it's illegal! Well...it's both.

Re: So, What about the new rule---Buyer to destroy "non-Authenic" items??

May 11, 2009 5:54 PM

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Its in the new policy - and when you keep selling here you automatically agree to abide by it. There won't be any lawsuits - there haven't been any so far and Ebay is quite accustomed to dragging sellers around by the nose simply because the sellers keep taking it!

* For covered claims that meet the conditions and are not excluded, buyers are required to destroy an item if they claim it is not authentic. Once a buyer confirms destruction of the item, eBay will reimburse the buyer.

* For covered claims that meet the conditions and are not excluded, sellers agree to not hold buyers or eBay responsible for the destruction of an item if it is not believed to be authentic.

As long as sellers keep selling here we're all captive to whatever hairbrained policy they wish to lay on us. That's the truth!

Re: So, What about the new rule---Buyer to destroy "non-Authenic" items??

May 11, 2009 6:08 PM

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Which is probably why I'm not listing anything, here. Well, that, and the fact that nothing much is selling........

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Re: So, What about the new rule---Buyer to destroy "non-Authenic" items??

May 11, 2009 6:47 PM

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> Its in the new policy - and when you keep selling here you automatically agree to abide by it. There won't be any lawsuits - there haven't been any so far and Ebay is quite accustomed to dragging sellers around by the nose simply because the sellers keep taking it!
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> * For covered claims that meet the conditions and are not excluded, buyers are required to destroy an item if they claim it is not authentic. Once a buyer confirms destruction of the item, eBay will reimburse the buyer.
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> * For covered claims that meet the conditions and are not excluded, sellers agree to not hold buyers or eBay responsible for the destruction of an item if it is not believed to be authentic.
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> As long as sellers keep selling here we're all captive to whatever hairbrained policy they wish to lay on us. That's the truth!

That's not true, there is no seller being forced to do anything, period. What is true that these rules will take effect.

Nothing has changed other then more weeds are going to be pulled and from my perspective that will be for the better.

If one can prove that an item is not authentic and yet was sold as authentic then the buyer was defrauded and the item should not go back to the perpetrator for resale, if the item is authentic then there is really nothing to worry about, only those that have pulled this sort of thing will be affected, therefore lets all give ebay a clap clap clap for doing what is right.

Re: So, What about the new rule---Buyer to destroy "non-Authenic" items??

May 11, 2009 6:51 PM

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There are more sellers that are above board then there are sellers which are nothing less then weasels, these new rules will only affect those that mislead in their advertisement, bids are based on a lot of factors and are based on trust when a weasel violates that trust then they deserve the harshest remedy possible because in essence they have robbed the buyer.

Re: So, What about the new rule---Buyer to destroy "non-Authenic" items??

May 11, 2009 6:53 PM

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One welcomes the rule change just as one welcomed the ignore button, it takes the argument out of the wind.

Re: So, What about the new rule---Buyer to destroy "non-Authenic" items??

May 11, 2009 7:01 PM

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It is one of the dumbest policies eBay has made to date.
It may be the number one far above all the others.
I haven't made a list to compare.

I haven't read the full policy yet.
Is documentation required from an expert authenticater?
A seller listing an authentic rare item might be highly irritated if the item is destroyed.

It does place a stronger burden of authentication on sellers.
Meaning, a lot of what-nots can't be sold on eBay anymore unless the seller wants to take that chance.

I would not feel confident about buying on a web site with that kind of policy because it is so dumb, imo.

Not legal sounds right,
destroying evidence last I heard is not a cool thing to do

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Re: So, What about the new rule---Buyer to destroy "non-Authenic" items??

May 11, 2009 7:29 PM

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I see it as allowing buyers to run rampant. Most are honest but the dishonest ones are going to have a shopping spree - all at the sellers' expense and under Ebay's protection. I doubt it will affect us much here, in arts, but anyone selling a name brand item is at risk under this new policy.

Say I want to sell grandma's Tiffany brooch - its genuine and has been in the family for years. I put it up on ebay and it sells. Well, it seems the buyer only needs to contact ebay and tell them the brooch is a fraud. Ebay says destroy it...the buyer "destroys" it by pinning it to her shirt. Then buyer says "I destroyed it Ebay" and Ebay then refunds the buyer's money and hits the seller with a bill for the refund! They've come a long long way from the old "level playing field".

Re: So, What about the new rule---Buyer to destroy "non-Authenic" items??

May 11, 2009 7:30 PM

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"It does place a stronger burden of authentication on sellers. "

Doesn't look to me like they even give seller the chance to prove its authentic.

Re: So, What about the new rule---Buyer to destroy "non-Authenic" items??

May 11, 2009 7:34 PM

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What a bunch of horse %@#$!!!! We need to petition, if it will help.

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