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Ask Griff - December 2009
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Ask Griff - December 2009
Dec 4, 2009 02:49 PM
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Hello all,
Welcome to the Ask Griff Discussion Board thread for December 2009. I'm Jim Griffith (known to most as Griff). I have been an eBay buyer, seller and employee since 1996. You can learn more about me on my About Me page.
It's been an extremely busy quarter for all of us here inside eBay, yours truly included. As a result, I have had less time to devote to Ask Griff as I did earlier this year. I don't expect this to change in the next few months. To that end, I have altered some of the "rules" below. Please read them carefully. Thanks!
Please read all of the following information before composing and submitting a question post.
Ask Griff Thread Posting Tips & Guidelines
- If you have a question about an eBay feature or policy, feel free to post it to this current month's Ask Griff thread.
- It can take several days for me to post responses to questions (see above). If your question or issue requires timely assistance, you should direct it to Customer Support. (Click the Contact Us link). You can also email your questions, account issues, etc to me at griff@ebay.com (using your regular email service, not My Messages). Include the phrase: "Ask Griff Thread Question" in the subject line and provide the User ID you wish to associate with the question as a "by" line. (For the thread, no anonymous posts please).
- Please only post here using an active eBay selling ID as opposed to a dedicated posting ID (an eBay account and ID used solely for posting on eBay Discussion Boards). Posts using what is clearly a posting ID will be deleted without response.
- Limit your post to no more than three specific, non rhetorical questions on a single topic that is directly related to selling on eBay. Use separate posts for separate topics and their questions, limited to one post per day. This is a new requirement for posting and I didn't come to it lightly. However, given the unavoidable reality of time and resourse constraints under which I currently find myself, I must ask for your cooperation with this new "rule." Thanks.
- When in doubt, summarize.
- I answer posts in groups roughly 50 (give or take 10). Depending on the volume of posts, I may close the thread temporarily after about 50 or so posts to provide time for me to compile answers. If the thread is locked, I may open it for a new session (unlock the thread) after I have posted a response post. If posting volume is slow, I will keep the thread open between responses.
- A response post will contain all of the previous questions and my responses in one, single (and long!) post. Once a response post is uploaded, I will delete all of the original posts (to save space and avoid duplication). If a post is not deleted, it is because I am waiting on more information and input before creating a response.
- If your posted question is not included in a response post, then your post:
- contained a question that was answered in a recently-posted group of responses, or....
- was primarily editorial, or commentary in nature or a conversation between two posters, or...
- contained only rhetorical questions, or...
- violated the general eBay Discussion Forum Rules and Policies. (For example, posts asking about deleted posts will, per the discussion forum general posting rules, be deleted without response.) or...
- requires more input from an eBay team or employee prior to a response. (If your post is still displaying after I have posted a response thread, then this is the reason it. Once I have the information needed, I will post a response.)
To conserve space (and your patience), I have moved the Ask Griff FAQ and Helpful Links here.
Happy Holidays,
Griff
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Re: Ask Griff - December 2009
Dec 4, 2009 04:12 PM
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I have noticed that instead of store items showing up after core items I'm now beginning to see International items.Am I losing exposure of my Store items while still being charged the same?
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Re: Ask Griff - December 2009
Dec 4, 2009 05:42 PM
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Last month you answered a question of mine: It is not a bug or glitch. How and which items are displayed depends on the number of returned items and the number available in Stores. For some searches where there are approx 50 items or less from eBay.com (non Stores otherwise known as “core’), we will display either matching Store items or, matching items from international sellers. I probably wasn't clear, but my question concerned the "see additional items from stores" link, rather than the displayed listings. On every other search on ebay that link appears (assuming there are store results), so omitting it indicates that are no other matching items on Ebay USA, thus completely hiding the store items that do exist. (why should anyone click on stores/bin to search since this search was "complete" except for international items?) So I guess my question now is-since it's not a glitch-does Ebay realize that it in effect kills any US store listings that do match the search and if so why would they do that? And do they plan to expand the policy to more than the 30-50 core search returns? I notice it now happens on a 52 search return also, hiding over 50 store returns. (search was flamingo towels) In the discussion on search this year/last year, much was made by Ebay pinks that Ebay wanted a buyer to be able to find all items on ebay that matched his search terms. This seems to be diametrically opposed to that (good) policy. But perhaps I'm missing something? Thanks for any help in understanding. Dorothy
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Re: Ask Griff - December 2009
Dec 11, 2009 11:39 AM
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Hello all. Thank you for your posted questions (and for following the guidelines for this particular thread). I will now lock the thread for a few days while I compile the questions and answers, which I will post here on Monday, at which time I will reopen the thread for new posts. Regards, Griff Jim Griffith Griff
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Re: Ask Griff - December 2009
Dec 15, 2009 05:41 PM
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Here is the first batch for this week.
I will post another response block later this week. If you original post is still dated Dec 7, 2009 11:45 PM and is still up but not included in this post, then I haven't yet received the information needed to create a response.
Posted by golfingaddict on Dec 4, 2009 3:45 PM
Messaging Changes in UPI Flow
My question is about the unpaid item process. I've had to file more unpaid items then ever before. It's an epidemic. In the last few months things have changed a lot. Now when I file a dispute, I cannot leave a message, nor can I see any response that the "winner" has left. Why can't I see a response? Can the buyer leave a response when they answer the dispute?
I asked the team in charge of the UPI process. They informed me that the new communication method is to leverage My Messages as opposed to the messaging back and forth in the Dispute Console for UPI. The goal of removing the communication channel for buyer and seller within the UPI flow was to consolidate the numerous communication methods into one – My Messages.
Why is the onus of unpaid items on the seller? I often have buyers tell me that they have changed their mind, purchased in error or don't want it anymore.
Since the consequences of a UPI impact the seller, we need that seller to report the UPI to us, much as the onus of reporting an Item Not Received or SNAD complaint is on the buyer. If a buyer tells you, post transaction, that they “changed their mind,” or “purchased in error,” or “don’t want [the item] anymore,” you should file a UPI, not a Mutual Cancellation. None of the three excuses are valid and, in order for us to accurately track repeat UPI buyers so we can take appropriate action against them, we need these reports!
It is then up to me to try to get my fees refunded and HOPE that I don't get the buyer mad by filing for my fees back. If they buyer initiates cancelling the transaction, why can't they file the necessary process to cancel the transaction?
A buyer should not be able to initiate a Mutual Cancellation without communicating with the seller first and the buyer should not expect a Mutual Cancellation for invalid reasons (like those above). If the seller cannot get the buyer to respond and pay via regular channels, then the next step is a UPI dispute.
I'm really confused about this new process and quite frankly, I don't like it at all. Most of all, I really unhappy with the spike in non-paying or slow paying bidders. (I sell on a couple of ID's and it is more prevelant on auction items)P.S.
Since UPIs volume is a fairly constant percentage of overall transactions, it is not surprising for some sellers to see a bump in UPIs, especially for those sellers who sell primarily in the auction format, with the increase in buyer activity in the weeks leading up to the Holidays.
Please do not tell me that I am doing something wrong and that is why they are not paying...
We have discussed the UPI issue quite extensively on this forum over the last year. I’ll summarize the issue and the challenges in eliminating them once and for all
- eBay’s transaction model is unique. It’s the only marketplace online where a buyer can purchase an item – that is, close a listing – without submitting payment.
- Fixed Price Items do have the benefit of Immediate Payment Only which eliminates the UPI issue but Immediate Payment Only precludes the benefit some sellers require for single invoice for multiple listing purchases from a single buyer (Shopping Cart will fix this issue).
- An Immediate Payment option for Auction Format listings presents its own unique challenges. For example, should we build a mechanism for instant payment transfer once an auction closes? How would this work in the future Shopping Cart?
UPIs cost sellers and eBay, enormous resources in the way of time and money. We are absolutely determined to eliminate them but recognize that doing so quickly is not possible or even recommended given the scope of the changes necessary to accomplish the end of UPIs.
Posted by lgroyer on Dec 4, 2009 4:43 PM
Reminder Notice for Answered Questions in My eBay
HI Griff, It is not a big deal, but-- the reminder notice on the myEbay page does not reset properly when I have answered a buyer's question. The system seems to reset immediately for number of items remaining to be shipped, for the number of payments still outstanding, and for the number of feedback waiting to be left. But it will be all day before the system recognizes that questions have been answered. This causes me to recheck it several times a day, just to see if a new question has come in. Thanks for all your help. Lois
I forwarded your post to the My eBay team for their attention. Thanks for alerting us!
Posted by sammyjewels on Dec 4, 2009 9:01 PM
My Messages Issue
Hi Griff...nice to see you back.
Some weeks ago I emailed you with a problem answering questions if auction ends in twelve hours and has a bid. You forwarded my email to the appropriate people and I received an email from "Office of the President"
The folks told me it was NOT a problem at their end, that it must be something I am doing. I insisted I have not done anything different than in all the years selling here. After some back and forth they emailed me and admitted it was a glitch on Ebay's end. My last correspondence with them was on November 16th and they STILL don't know what the problem is and could not tell me when it would be fixed.
This concerns me because I'm sure I am losing sales because of it, as well as having buyers thinking I don't want to bother answering their questions....this would make them think twice about bidding my items. since there is a lack of communication ..I know I would think twice! I feel my reputation is being tarnished because of this problem. After the auctions end I email the potential bidder (and of course they didn't bother to bid on my item) to apologize and explain WHY I did not get back to them.
So how long is normal time for Ebay to fix their problems/glitches. All I was told is that they turned in a "bug ticket" on it. I think I have been very patient regarding this problem and I do wish Ebay would FIX the problem.
Appreciate any answers....
sammyjewels
I spoke with David at the Office of the President, and he informed me (provided copies of the emails sent to you) that he told you that a: your report was accepted, tested, duplicated on your account and filed as a bug report for a fix and b: that we are in our annual quiet period where no changes or fixes are rolled out to the site unless they are major in scope and impact, and, since there have been no other reports of a similar nature from other sellers, that because of the of the current quiet period, the fix won’t roll until after the first of the year.
Posted by *golf-ne1* on Dec 5, 2009 12:52 AM
How The Reserve Price Feature Works
Hi Griff,
I have a suggestion for an update on the way bidding for a reserve listing is handled if the reserve is not met, but it actually was. The problem I have with the way it works now is that if I were to bid on an item and my bid is above the reserve amount, I can still not win the item. Let's use this as an example I bid on an item that has a reserve of $100.00 and the existing bid is $50.00, so I bid $105.00 in the last few seconds of the auction. The bid amount will go up the bid increment, and I will not win the auction even though I bid over the reserve.
I suggest the following a solution to this....
If the reserve is meet with a bid like the example above, then the buyer and seller should have a chance to finish the transaction. This could be done with an option where both bidder & seller are contacted and have a specified amount of time to complete the transaction.
The way a reserve feature works on eBay is not how you have described. If a bidder bids an amount equal to or greater than the (hidden) reserve price set by the seller, the current bid jumps to the reserve price with the bidder showing as the current high bidder. The only person who knows the actual reserve price amount on an auction listing that shows “reserve not met” is the seller.
You can read how the Reserve Price works here.
Posted by artistlea on Dec 5, 2009 4:51 AM
Serious Fee Avoidance Violation
Hi Griff,
I recenlty purchased a $1375 bag from a seller. Upon winning, they first requested for me to submit payment via PayPal but as a transfer of funds rather than a purchase, so that they wouldn't need to pay certain PayPal fees as a merchant. I did not agree to this just to ensure I received buyer protection and simply paid via PayPal/eBay.
I have received the item and sent her a message letting her know it has been received. A day later, the seller sent me a request to cancel the transaction. The reason on the cancellation was "other". I did accept the cancellation thinking somehow there was something wrong with the transaction and she wanted to reverse it. However, she sent me a seperate message via eBay messaging that stated the following:
"Glad to hear that. Just to let you know I will be cancelling the transaction on ebay. Everytime an item is successfully sold, ebay charges us sellers a final value fee. By cancelling the transaction, the fee is refunded to us. This will in no way affect your account's reputation or feedback history."
This is obviously fee avoidance on her part. I've sent an email to her advising of this and how she'd like to proceed as she knows I know this is against eBay policy.
I'm also trying to report it to eBay but it's a maze trying to send eBay an email for fee avoidance. I did find what may have been the correct "contact ebay" catagory, but it only allowed me to put in an item number without explaining the situation and being able to forward to eBay messages she sent me.
Griff, where do I report this properly.
Send the details directly to me at griff@ebay.com using your regular email application (not My Messages).
Posted by rdcomics on Dec 5, 2009 8:44 AM
DSRs Left For Mutual Cancellation Transaction
Hello, Mr. Griffith
I would like to hear the reasoning on why eBay devised the DSR system to accept feedback, specifically DSR entries, when a sale has been cancelled through the resolution center. If sale has been cancelled, purchasing id is no longer, legally, the buyer. Yet this purchasing id can rate seller on the four DSR fields. How can one rate in Item As Described, Ship Out Time & S&H Cost DSR fields, if item was never sent out? A buyer asks a seller to cancel a transaction, for whatever reason, and is allowed to rate the seller, who granted the cancellation, on services not rendered.
What's wrong with this picture.
Also, eBay has the capability of "switching off" a buyer's capabilities of leaving DSR's in a given situation (look at local pick-up as an example).
eBay chooses not to do so on cancelled purchases. Why?
Thanking you in advance for your and eBay's response.
We allow ratings and feedback to be left for a Mutual Cancellation since there may be non-neutral reasons for the buyer asking for a MC. For example, a seller contacts a buyer post sale and asks them to cancel the transaction because the description was wrong, or the shipping was not enough, or the seller refuses to sell to the buyer for some reason.
However, if a seller receives a mutual cancellation and the buyer provides a seller-no-fault reason for doing so (I made a mistake in purchasing this item. It isn’t the right size, model number, etc) and that buyer then leaves all 1 DSRs, the seller can appeal via this http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/report_problem.html through the section marked Feedback Abuse. I have seen several cases of this nature where we have removed the feedback.
Posted by buriedbybooks on Dec 5, 2009 9:10 AM
Recent Search Outage Communication
Hi Griff,
Question: Considering what I would call a catastrophic failure in communication on eBay's part during the recent "search" outage, have any new processes been put into place to address member concerns in a more timely manner?
Yes.
Explanation:
During the outage (which was a failure of search AND browse--not just search) the community had no communication from eBay management until AFTER the situation had been resolved. I find that completely unacceptable.
In addition, there are reports (from multiple sources) that Customer Service was giving out incorrect information including: that the outage was part of planned maintenance, that the outage wasn't occurring and members should clear their cache and cookies...
During the entire day, we had no meaningful status updates except a few posts on the Systems Announcement board which is NOT something that a casual eBayer would even know to check.
There were no posts on Twitter. No links on the home page. No message of any kind from anyone on the "communications team" until very late on Saturday.
I find it reprehensible that we did not hear from a member of eBay management until nearly midnight on Saturday/Sunday. Surely SOMEONE had emergency control of the company on the weekend and should have done something to communicate with the community.
It seems obvious to me that the entire eBay organization was completely unreachable on a Saturday. I would like some reassurance that steps are being taken to make sure this radio silence during a catastrophic meltdown of the site does not happen again.
The outage caught everyone by surprise. We had no information to provide during the day except what we posted on the System Announcement Board (it took several hours to locate the source of the problem which was software-related.).
Are you aware of any proactive steps being taken to improve eBay's responsiveness to future issues?
Yes. We are currently reviewing the communication plan in place for incidents of this nature in order to make improvements to communications.
Posted by mdes162nj on Dec 5, 2009 2:01 PM
Payment Reminders
Dear Griff,
Please ask "They Who Must Be Obeyed" to give us the opportunity to opt out of the the rapid and repeated payment reminders that are being sent to our customers. This dunning is offensive and an example of poor customer service.
Thank you
I have forwarded yours and all other posts on this topic to the team in charge. I stated my own opinion in recent threads on Ask Griff (I am 100% for an opt-in feature) and am working with the team in charge to that end.
Posted by mommywein on Dec 5, 2009 9:46 PM
Buy It Now and Reserve Price No Longer Showing
I listed an item with a Direct Buy price and also had a reserve price that needed to be met. The listing no longer shows my direct buy price or a reserve price. What do I do now?
Without an item number, I cannot say for certain but what most likely occurred is that a buyer bid an amount over the reserve. The eBay Help pages explain how Buy It Now works ( Why Did The Buy It Now Option Disappear After The First Bid ) and the How the Reserve Price feature works.
Posted by 1st-oliveoyl on Dec 6, 2009 4:59 PM
Unpaid Items
Hi Griff.
I want to know what Ebay plans to do about non-paying buyers? This month, 11.5% of my "sales" have been to folks who either don't pay at all, or pay only after getting a UPI strike.
That is an unacceptable number!
We agree.
What is Ebay doing to prevent NARUs from reregistering under a different ID?
The system uses software checks for all new registrations to determine if a new registrant is a previously suspended user (buyer or seller) and if so, flag the account for further review and possible action. The flags are not fool proof but they work most of the time. However, if a previously suspended user provides information upon registration that does not connect the user to their previous account, there is no way to determine and declare a connection.
Why does Ebay let NPBs still leave feedback and grade Sellers with stars?
Because there are some cases where a buyer has a legitimate reason for not paying (seller refunds for an “out of stock” item, seller changes the terms of the sale post the transaction’s close, etc).
How can Ebay be more proactive in weeding out both bad sellers and bad buyers?
With your help. The only way we know that a buyer is a chronic UPI buyer is through seller-filed UPI reports. Once we have filed UPI reports on record, we can track those buyers and take action when warranted (i.e., suspend a repeat UPI buyer). However, we cannot “proactively” weed out any member – buyer or seller - prior to their engaging in activity that violates an eBay rule or policy (a la Minority Report).
Yes! There are some bad buyers out there!
And we can only take action against the truly bad buyers – those who are repeated UPI buyers or who clearly purchase with the sole intent of defrauding sellers – once sellers report them. This is the same for bad sellers. Buyers have to inform us in order for us to take action.
Merry Christmas and Happy Eid, Hanukkah & Kwanza!
Posted by (mighty_quinn) on Dec 6, 2009 7:32 PM
Payment Reminders
Hello Griff,
Please add our voice to the others that have asked that the "automated payment reminder" messages be made optional.
We would like every one of our buyers to have a positive experience when they do business with us. We work hard toward that goal, and we're proud of the results. We can do this in large part because we understand our customers and the nature of their needs.
It is our considered opinion that, for our buyers, the automated payment reminders do not contribute toward a positive buyer experience - and may, in some cases, work against it.
If we are ever given the chance to opt out of this "service", we'll do so in a heartbeat. Please continue to do whatever you can to try to get us that chance!
Regards,
(mighty_quinn)
I have forwarded your email to the team for their consideration.
Posted by rdcomics on Dec 6, 2009 7:53 PM
Safe Payments Questions
Hi, Again! Concerning the Safe Payment Policy:
eBay allows 41 sub-categories (the 41-club as I like to call them) to state that they accept paper payments. They even still have the paper payment option when they create their listing (they need it, to state acceptance in listing). Why is it considered safe, or at least not in policy violation, to state that buyer can send a $100 money order for a car part or adult magazine, but not for a comic book or porcelan vase? In fact, as those affected sellers can still accept paper payments, as long as buyer first makes a request, this, in fact, makes the payment just as "safe" as the 41-club can do up front with their listing. Why is the difference between the 41-club and the rest of the eBay seller community?
The majority of transactions in the referenced categories (the top level categories are Motors and Business and Industrial. The sub categories are viewable here), are for items that are larger and heavier than most other items listed on eBay. They also tend to be more expensive than items sold in other categories, thus online payments, which often have a transaction limit, are not usually an option. Most of the transactions in the Motors categories tend to be local pickup by the buyer, therefore, we allowed for paper payments in those categories.
Real Estate transactions are also exempt (due to both the high final value of real estate and the fact that Real Estate transactions are non binding. Read more here.)
Accepted online payment options for the Adult Only category were not available until a few months ago (Sellers in Adult Only can now take PayPal). However, since the vast majority of the transactions in this category were paper based (unlike the rest of eBay categories), and due to special issues involved in trading in this category regarding privacy and contact information, we allowed for paper payments as an accepted option for this category as well.
The Accepted Payments policy has been in place now for over a year. I feel obligated to set realistic expectations regarding this policy. It is not subject to change.
Thanks in advance once again for your and eBay's response.
Posted by d-k_treasures on Dec 7, 2009 7:35 AM
Payment Reminders
Griff -
Please add my ID to that ever-growing list to opt-out of the automated payment reminders. As an aside, these are generated regardless of whether or not an invoice was sent. I hold items for combined shipping, and so do a lot of sellers that I deal with. If I didn't know that these were a function of trying to automatically ding the sellers communication stars, I would be upset if I received them also, as are a lot of buyers.
Thanks
d-k_treasures
I have forwarded your email to the team for their consideration.
Posted by di25535 on Dec 7, 2009 7:58 AM
Payment Reminders
I too, would strongly urge eBay to rethink automaticaly sending dunning notices to buyers.
I offer 7 day terms, and I wish to honor those terms. My buyers have every right to expect that they have 7 days to pay - since that's what it says in my listings.
Yet eBay has chosen - over my objections - to email MY buyers about payment 5 full days before it's even due.
I want to opt out of this - but of course I can't....
I have forwarded your email to the team for their consideration.
Posted by ricnok on Dec 7, 2009 12:52 PM
Seller Dashboard
Hi Griff,
Happy Holidays....
As you know, since the seller dashboard was rolled out in it's latest form, it has been impossible to change time periods and view scores without first clearing cookies, temp files etc from the browser. This requires sellers to have to log out and back in again.
Some say eBay accepts this in order to drive up unique visit counts and will not be making necessary changes to code to correct the issue.
Tools such as this which are rolled out but do not function properly are a constant cause of annoyance and frustration.
Any chance eBay will get around to repairing the code so that it is no longer necessary to clear out browsers in order to have a dashboard that functions properly on the first view?
I forwarded your post to the Tools team. They attempted, several times and under several different configurations, to duplicate the results you are seeing. They could not. Also, a search of the CS database turned up no other alerts or emails from other sellers complaining about the same issue. Feel free to email me screen shots and specific details (step by step navigation) and they can take a closer look but their verdict, based on their attempts at duplicating the results you are seeing leads them to believe this is an issue on your end (browser most likely).
Posted by marsull_inla on Dec 7, 2009 5:44 PM
A Specific Case
Hi Griff,
There is a thread on another board discussing an international buyer who had left over 60 negatives (and apparently won PayPal refunds) for non delivery.
The seller saw this trend in the buyer's feedback and covered themselves by shipping with tracking. The buyer filed even though tracking showed it was in customs already. Speculation was that the buyer would get her money from PP and then retrieve the item from customs.
Ebay NARU'd the buyer (thank goodness).
Why did it take 60 negs to catch this buyer? Those 60 sellers are probably out $$ they will never see again. Ebay tracks DSRs and many other aspects of seller's accounts.
Does ebay have any system in place to catch fraudulent buyers? i.e. negs left on a regular basis ?
I will be happy to send you the thread link.
For privacy reasons, I cannot discuss any single particular case with anyone not directly tied to the case. Feel free to send me the details in an email but unless you are a seller who has had a transaction with the buyer, I cannot provide you any details.
Posted by fortunesmom on Dec 7, 2009 9:37 PM
Payment Reminders
Can I add my voice to the buyers who are upset with the automated payment reminders? I just had a scenerio where I made multiple purchases (within the same day on ending auctions) from a seller, and when I asked for an invoice (all auctions said combined shipping), the seller wanted to charge MORE shipping than if I'd just paid immediately with all three auctions.
While I was trying to get some semblance of combined shipping from the buyer, ebay was sending me payment reminder (dunning) notices.
Certainly not a positive experience. The seller "combined" shipping and I've paid, but even though I knew the notices were coming from ebay, they sure didn't improve the situation.
I have forwarded your email to the team for their consideration.
Posted by rdcomics on Dec 7, 2009 9:42 PM
Allowable (Non Serious) Policy Violation Variances
Hi! Another one for you, Mr. Griffith.
I apologize for my number of postings, but I did not get to post in November as I thought it was going to be reopened.
No problem, but just and FYI: post quotas are not like “roll over minutes.” Proceed.
As maintaining current Power Seller Tier of Bronze, Silver, etc. depends more on dollar amount than volume of sales, why is there a difference in low-level policy violations allowable strikes against sellers?
For a Bronze seller (maintaining $1,000 a month or $12,000 a year) it is only 3.
For Silver/Gold seller (maintaining $3,000 a month, etc.) it is 4.
For a Platinum it is 5.
For a Titanium it is 6.
If some, in each PS level, are selling roughly the same volume of items to maintain their PS level, why is a the higher dollar PS user allowed more low level policy violations? Should it not be the same across the board for all sellers? After all, a policy violation is a policy violation. Dollar figures should not favor one seller over another, as I see it.
Also, in the PS & TRS requirements help page listing, their is no mention about allowable severe policy violations.
My account says that I am not allowed any, with possble consequences to follow if one is had.
Is this the case for all sellers whether they are a PS seller or not?
If not, again why is one set of sellers allowed more than another set?
Thanking in advance again for your ensuing reply.
My pleasure. The current requirements for each PowerSeller level include both a sales and and a volume requirement, both of which increase with each tier:

As a matter of fairness, we allow each tier to have more low severity policy violations to account for the larger volume (and the increased rate of violations this may cause):
- Bronze: 4 violations in a 90-day period
- Silver/Gold: 5 violations in a 90-day period
- Platinum: 6 violations in a 90-day period
- Titanium: 7 violations in a 90-day period
This is outlined on the PS Requirements Policy page:
http://pages.ebay.com/sellerinformation/PowerSeller/requirements.html
All sellers are held to the same standards. When you refer to not being allowed any policy violations, I assume you mean high severity policy violations. All sellers, regardless of size, may lose PS status for a single violation of any of the high severity policy violations, which include: Shill Bidding, Performance Manipulation (such as feedback padding) or Counterfeits. Both high and low severity counts (how many that seller has) and how many they are allowed are shown on the PS eligibility page in the Seller Dashboard.
Posted by jd9912 on Dec 7, 2009 9:53 PM
Payment Reminders
Hey Griff hope you've had a great Holiday Season so far!
Anyway....
Can you please ask eBay to quit trying to do us favors such as End of Auction notices and the not-so-friendly automated payment reminders? None of my buyers have openly complained about it (YET!) to me, but all of my DSR's have taken a "hit" this month and I haven't changed anything!
My suspicion is that my buyers may be subtlely retaliating against "the end of auction email / dunning game" by lowering my scores since they can't rate eBay for it. (How nice of eBay to "conveniently" insulate themselves from this little "problem"!)
You know how you feel when you paid that bill "on time" but the dunning notice from the 'lectric company or the credit card company just happened to cross in the mail? It doesn't exactly leave you with a good taste, does it?
Thanks for all you try to do.
My pleasure. I have forwarded your email to the team for their consideration.
Posted by kittenkat22 on Dec 7, 2009 11:45 PM
Violations of Insurance Policy
Happy Holidays.
My question:
Is ebay doing anything about sellers who are still charging insurance? I have run accross this a few times this week. The main store page says insurance is mandatory and charged on orders under a certain price. I had bought from one of these particular sellers once before and insisted they remove the charge. This was right after the new rule went into effect. They tacked the $2 insurance charge onto the shipping costs. They did remove it but told me my order was not insured and was I sure I wanted to do this- which we know is not the case- the seller is responsible. I see that two months later they are still charging insurance- it says it on their main page. They are not in the US- but I doubt this is a language problem. I even told them that ebay says sellers can no longer charge insurance and where the announcement was at- but they (tried to) charged me anyway. I think the problem with reporting a sellers storefront page is that there is no link for it. I did report them because at first they would not remove the charge. Nothing was done apparently. I was looking into gettng more supplies but don't care to haggle about insurance with them again.
thanks
If you have sent in a report of this activity and the activity continues, forward the seller’s User ID to me at griff@ebay.com using your regular email, not My Messages. Thanks
I will post another response block later this week. If you original post is still dated Dec 7, 2009 11:45 PM and is still up but not included in this post, then I haven't yet received the information needed to create a response.
regards,
Griff
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Posted by austiners on Dec 5, 2009 9:31 PM
Griff --
I have been buying recently, and am wondering, after all the discussion of eBay's new email notifications, why I have not yet received an email upon completing checkout and paying for the item? To me, this is the most useful email and I don't understand why I have not received one for any purchase. I have received the shipping notification email, but not the one for the completion of checkout.
As a seller I am continuing to send messages notifying buyers that payment has been received, since I don't think eBay's messages are working as described.
Can you confirm that eBay is actual sending a message upon successful completion of checkout? Is it possible for a someone to opt out of this message?
Thanks
Normally, if a buyer completes Checkout using PayPal or a credit card, he or she should receive what is called an Order Confirmation (which indicates that Checkout has been completed). At the moment, this feature has been turned off in the US for testing purposes for payments made with PayPal. No word on when it will be turned back on.
If you use PayPal to pay for an item, you should be receiving payment notification from PayPal and if the seller has set up to send automatic payment received notification, you will also receive those.
Posted by marsull_inla on Dec 8, 2009 5:33 PM
Partial Refunds
Hello again Griff,
There seems to be a rash of buyers who request partial refunds on items they purchased (they refuse to return for a full refund). Sellers are complaining that they believe this is a scam to get a lower price. Generally there is some vague threat about leaving a neg for the seller if a partial isn't given.
Would it be possible to have ALL partial refunds done only through a process on ebay? Or track how many are done/sent to specific IDs in Paypal? That would be a way to red flag
1) buyers who abuse the refund process and constantly ask for them
2) sellers who seem to have problems delivering what they promise
win, win, no?
Absolutely a win-win. Although, in many, if not most, of the cases that I have seen from my perch here at eBay, the request for a partial refund is usually the result of genuine dissatisfaction on the part of the buyer. Still, there is always the possibility that a buyer purchased with the intent of asking for a partial refund. We can establish that intent by two ways: out and out admission by the buyer (rare) or a repeat pattern of requests. Currently, we do track the number of transactions where a buyer has filed a dispute or where a seller has reported the buyer for possible feedback abuse (this is why it is crucial for all sellers who believe that they have been the target of feedback abuse to file a report here.. We can also track partial refunds issued to buyers via PayPal.
All of the seller-supplied comments and information filed by a seller in any dispute case, is stored and accessible later for determining repeat buyer activity including repeated requests for partial refunds. A buyer whose record indicates a pattern of requesting partial refunds faces sanctions, including suspension.
That said, although I am not promising anything concrete, it isn’t entirely ruled out that we might someday disallow all requests for partial refunds from buyers (an “all or nothing policy” in its place). But for now, at least on a case-by-case basis, a buyer can ask for one.
Posted by deltamaster on Dec 8, 2009 6:54 PM
More Partial Refunds
And to follow up on this one....
Question 1 : Why is it that eBay encourages buyers to request partial refunds in the help pages?
I searched Help extensively and could not find any text where we encourage buyers to request partial refunds. Feel free to send said reference to me.
Question 2: Why can eBay not do anything about those sellers that get bent out of shape and ding sellers ratings when the seller refuses to accept the request for the partial refund and instead offer to refund in full upon return of the item?
Because the request for a partial refund in and of itself, is not a violation of policy and we have to assume (as does the seller) that the request is indicative only of a dissatisfied buyer and not evidence of malicious intent. However, every transaction that ends up in a dispute, filed or not, has to be judged on its own. If there is evidence that the buyer regularly requests partial refund requests, we may take action.
Question 3: Can you speculate (or has eBay researched) on the reason for the increased number of postings relating to this subject over the past couple of years? Is it because more sellers are complaining about it or is it because more buyers are doing it?
We don’t measure an issue's impact or scope by the number of postings on that issue. The posts may often provide some textural context for a larger issue but "number of posts" is unreliable as a quantitative measure. We do measure verifiable reports of partial refunds and to date, there has been no overall, marketplace-wide marked increase in buyer requests for partial refunds.
Posted by rdcomics on Dec 8, 2009 9:17 PM
PowerSeller Evaluation Dates
Hi, once again.
To somewhat pick up from my last post. When eBay does a PS evaluation, a date stamp is given for seller to know when last one was done. Mine occurs on the 10th of the month. I have had occasions were a PS evaluation was given between the standard set date, and system would then date stamp it (ex: August 26th) until the next regular scheduled PS evaluation happens (September 10th in my case).
I have a recent email from eBay saying that PS evaluations are done on occasions without notifying seller that one was done. Specifically, there would be no new date stamp to let seller know that a PS evaluation was performed. If that is the case, why even have date stamps if last one showing to seller may not actually be the last one performed on his/her's account?
Seller may be looking at what is potential old information, as eBay's operating system is working off of the new evaluation that seller had not been notified on. Conversely, is eBay not obliged to display any and all dates that a PS evaluation was performed?
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The PowerSeller evaluation date for all sellers is the 18th. There are instances where the evaluation is defaulting back to the old, pre Top Rated program date of the 10th. There is a software fix on track for rolling the week of Jan 18th (after the holiday quiet period).
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Posted by elecgreg on Dec 8, 2009 9:40 PM
Payment Reminders
Griff
I admit that I haven't read the above questions. I've done that plenty in the past and I know it may or may not duplicate a Question. I'm just here to toss my nickle's worth in about the Automatic Dunning of my customers. You say that the language used in these Payment Reminders in no way indicates that the Seller is responsible and I fully disagree. If it were me, and I have purposely made myself a target of one, I wouldn't care who was responsible. I would consider it nothing more than what a collection agency does. Dunning.
Here is the actual Payment Reminder:

We may disagree, but to my eye and ear, the language in the payment reminder makes it clear that it was sent by eBay, not the seller.
I also have had a considerable slip in my Communication DSR rating since this idiocy began. I only revived it from it's low point by adding a message to my buyers invoice to ignore anything that isn't signed by me. Isn't it wonderful that we now have to tell buyers to ignore eBay?
Now, my questions are, Has any serious conversation taken place regarding the Option to Sellers to choose not to send these dunning messages to our customers?
I attended a meeting about this very topic last week to review the possibility of an opt in/out for payment reminders and it is looking like we will add an opt in/out but because of the depth of the current feature (it touches a lot of other features in the background), an "opt in/opt out" feature could not be launched until mid year 2010 . However, there are some short term solutions, including our changing the wording of the current Payment Reminder” to something more on the order of a “purchase reminder,” with reminders to the buyer to note the purchase and to submit payment per the seller’s instructions.
Also, I spent some time last week experimenting with a possible workaround and though it is definitely not elegant, it does appear to work. The following steps will prevent a payment reminder from being sent and will allow you to submit an invoice for multiple purchases from the same buyer once they have finished shopping. (note that I worked this out using Selling Manager Pro, not Selling Manager. I am not sure it will work with SM. Also, my testing was limited in scope to my own existing transactions. If you try the procedure below and notice conflicting results, please let me know!). So, here goes:
If you make an arrangement with a buyer to pay for a series of purchases over a period of time longer than 48 hours, follow these steps:
- If you are unfamiliar with the process, make sure to read the Help pages for Sending a Combined Invoice. You may want to return to this page after the buyer has finished purchasing to learn more about how to “send a combined invoice.”
- If you are not set up for providing shipping discounts automatically, read this Help page. You do not have to configure automatic shipping discounts. You can discount the shipping price on the final, combined invoice per the agreement you have made with your buyer.
- Before the buyer starts making purchases, make sure to shut off automatic “payment received” notices in Selling Manager Pro. Note that this setting is global in scope and effects all or none of your listings.

As the buyer completes each transaction, find it in My eBay > Selling Manager Pro > Sold and select “Mark as payment received” in the drop down box on the far right hand side of the transaction’s column in the Sold view.

Marking an item as “payment received” will prevent the automatic sending of a Payment Reminder to that buyer.
When the buyer informs you that they are finished purchasing, you can send them an invoice but only after you have altered the payment status for each item back to “payment not received.” You can only send an invoice for items if the status is “payment not received.” Unfortunately, resetting the payment status for a transaction isn’t as easy as selecting a menu option (it isn’t there). To change the payment status for a transaction marked as “payment received,” go to My eBay > Selling Manager Pro > Sold, locate the item and click the item’s record number:

Uncheck the box for “Payment Received On” (Under Payment Information in the Sale Status and Notes window.) Do this for all the items purchased by the buyer.

Follow the steps for Sending a Combined Invoice.
What Department of eBay is directly responsible for the decision to Dun buyers?
The Unpaid Item team oversees the management of the Payment Reminder email.
Is this a part of promoting the "Buy now, Pay Later" program?
No, absolutely not.
Posted by ted_200 on Dec 8, 2009 10:22 PM
Outage Questions
Hi Griff,
I have some questions about the "outage" and the handling of it.
The Outage Policy on the site seems to want to make a distinction between a "search outage", and an outage where the Item Listing Pages cannot be accessed. With New Search, even category browse is nothing more than a search that is run on that category. Since there was no way to get to the Item Listing Page to access it, this incident seems clearly to me to be the more severe outage where Item Listing Pages cannot be seen.
Yes indeed. It was an extremely severe outage with nearly catastrophic effect on the rate of buying activity on the site.
Given that, why weren't the procedures followed as outlined in the Outage Policy?
Actually, the procedures were indeed followed and then some. Here is The Outage Policy for eBay. Fee reimbursements were issued to all sellers per the terms in the policy. In fact, we went beyond the stated policy by indemnifying all sellers with listings that closed during the outage from receiving negative or neutral feedback and any ratings except 5’s,. We also allowed sellers to decide whether or not to complete any transaction that ended during the outage, without risk or consequences.
Second, the communications with the community were unsatisfactory in my opinion. Too much time elapsed between the problem and any communication. Then, the communications appeared on the obscure "Systems Announcements" where most people will never see them. They should have been on the "General Announcements" right from the start, with the subject showing up in "Announcements" on everyone's MyeBay page. Then when the decision was finally made to allow sellers to back out of their auctions that ended during the outage, there was no on-site announcement at all. Instead, Lorrie Norrington sent a "personal" email to the affected sellers. The problem is, it was too late (2 days later) for many sellers to do any good - they had shipped the items already or did not check email before shipping. Not only that, not everyone got the "personal" email - I had auctions end during the outage, and I NEVER got any such email.
The decision to email sellers regarding the removal of fulfillment obligations for listings that ended during the outage was made on Sunday. Since we were moving beyond the actual terms of the existing outage policy, it was necessary to call a meeting with all executives to obtain buy in and approval. This took most of the day Sunday. Once all were in agreement, an email was sent to all sellers who had listings end during the outage. The email was sent to their regular email addresses as well as their My Messages Inboxes. The reason for detailed email instead of a general announcement is that not all sellers had listings that ended during the outage. After careful deliberation, we decided it would be less confusing if we directly messaged those sellers who had listings that ended during the outage as opposed to all sellers. Here is the text from that email.
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Dear [seller user id]:
By now you might be aware that between 9:45am and midnight PST on Saturday, November 21, eBay search was down with searches returning limited or no results.
We know this is a very serious disruption, especially as you are ramping up your sales for the holiday season. Because you had listings ending during or within an hour after the outage, I wanted to let you know, personally, what we will be doing to support your business and protect your eBay reputation.
First of all, this outage will not negatively impact your feedback or detailed seller ratings (DSRs) in any way. All auction-style listings completed during this time will be protected from negative and neutral feedback as well as DSRs below a five star rating.
In addition, we will not expect you to fulfill Auction-style orders completed during this time if you feel the search outage prevented you from realizing the full expected price from your auction-style listings that closed during the outage or within an hour after the outage. It's up to you whether you want to fulfill the item in the interest of good relations with your buyer or cancel the transaction.
If you do plan to cancel a transaction, we ask that you contact your buyer within the next 48 hours (by end of day Tuesday, Nov 24). For your convenience, we've drafted some language below that you can use in your emails to inform the buyer of your intention and let them know this cancellation was due entirely to an eBay issue and not you as a seller.
If you had Fixed Price listings completed during this time period, you would of course be expected to fulfill sold items as usual.
Second, in keeping with eBay's outage policy and doing what's right for sellers and buyers, we are taking the following actions for listings that ended during or within an hour after the outage (9:45am Saturday - 1:00am Sunday PST):
- We will refund all associated fees for Auction-style listings and refund pro-rated fees for all active Fixed Price listings during the outage. This refund should be reflected in your next eBay invoice.
- We will remove negative/neutral Feedback and detailed seller ratings (DSRs) lower than 5 stars given by buyers for affected Auction-style listings.
- We will alert the eBay and PayPal resolutions team in the event that a claim of item not received is filed for an affected listing.
- We will be sending a 10% coupon up to $100 off to buyers who won Auction-style listings during the outage for any inconvenience.
We fully understand the impact of an outage of this scope on you, our valued partners. We sincerely apologize for the disruption to your business. I want you to know that we are continuing to focus our teams and resources to ensure a smooth and rewarding holiday selling season for you.
Sincerely,
Lorrie Norrington
President, eBay
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Suggested email for notifying your buyer of cancelled Auction-style transactions:
Dear Buyer:
As you may know, for a period of time from Saturday, November 21 to Sunday, November 22, eBay search was returning limited or no results. Unfortunately, the item you purchased from me on [date] was offered through an auction-style listing affected by this technical disruption.
I wanted you to know that as a result of this issue, I am cancelling this transaction and any payment you made will be fully refunded. In addition, eBay will be sending you a 10% coupon up to $100 off for the inconvenience. Now that eBay search is fully restored, I will be relisting this auction [today]. I sincerely hope you will bid again-and win!
If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact eBay via the "Contact us" link at the top of the eBay homepage. Thank you for your understanding. I look forward to your future business.
Sincerely,
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Why weren't communications quicker, why weren't they put in a place where everyone could find them easily, and why were they scattered all over the place (email, Systems Announcements, and General Announcements)?
We acted as quickly as we could under the circumstances. We posted information as we discovered it and we did so in more than once place – including email and both the System Announcements and General Announcements - so that everyone could find it (not everyone reads just one channel on eBay’s site.)
Finally, I will ask a multiple choice question.
The outage was caused by:
a. A surge in new listings that overwhelmed our systems.
b. A software problem on our back-end systems.
c. We still really don't know.
d. It is proprietary, and we aren't going to give anyone a clear answer.
As we announced, it was b., a software issue which, once located, was remedied.
One other interesting action that resulted from this outage: Since the experience was a bad one for buyers as well as sellers, we decided to issue $10 eBay coupons to any buyer who had conducted any activity on the site directly before or during the outage.
I have one or two more, but will not exceed my daily limits. Thanks as always!
Posted by decoratingyourself on Dec 9, 2009 7:33 AM
Unpaid Items
I would like to second this post...there has been a rash of non paying customers in the auction items and the onus is on the seller. These buyers are really clogging the system and should get the message that if they bid and win then they need to pay. I am also a buyer and pay right away. There seems to be a change in the message the buyer is getting. They seem to think if they win and don't pay then nothing will really happen to their buying status. I have also seen more warning messages on seller's auctions that they would like only "serious" buyers to bid. This move of the sellers part shows the weight of this problem. I don't believe in putting any such messages on my auctions. I treat buyers with respect, I only will they would do the same to sellers.
The ideal (and future) solution: the option to make all formats “immediate payment required.” The current, albeit, imperfect action: report all UPI buyers, and make sure to utilize all available Buyer Requirements.
Posted by krafty-kitty on Dec 9, 2009 2:41 PM
Buyer Claims Items Not Received
I have a problem and I need some kind of guideline or just plain help. I have sold two coins to two different buyers.
The first was paid with an echeck through paypal, it took 7 days to clear and I mailed it the next day. Before the echeck cleared I get a message from the buyer wainting to know where is the coin. I explained that when the payment cleared I would ship it. I did not include any insurance in the shipping cost but pay for that myself to be sure. The next day after clearing paypal I sent the coin insured.
The second coin I mailed the next day after receiving payment and insured it also.
Now the buyers are saying they have not receive the coins. Some of the messages are just plain mean but I explained that I did insure and that I have checked with the PO concerning this. The PO says that I have to wait 21 days after mailing before I can file the claim. I have explained this to both buyers and that as soon as the required time has passed I will file the claim and refund their money at that time. One buyer is just plain rude and saying he wants his "refund" now. The other buyer I have expalined the procedure to also and he today send a message wanting a refund.
I have again ask both to be patience as the PO will find the coins as they were insured. I am beginning to feel like this is some kind of scam. They are in a way "demanding" that I give them a refund NOW! So what suggestion do you have for me on this.
Any help that anyone can give to me is most appreciated.
I would really not like to file a claim and then find out that they had received the coins and were not telling the truth. Would that not make me an accessory to Mail Fraud? Anyway, I can't file a claim until after the 21 days, so what do I do?
Thanks, so much, R
There are two separate issues for which you need to be concerned. The first is the apparent non-receipt of the items by the buyer, the other is filing an insurance claim with the carrier (USPS).
Without the details of the transactions (don’t post them here, send them to me directly at griff@ebay.com using regular email, not My Messages), I cannot provide specific assistance but in general, a seller should always send them via a mail service that provides tracking or delivery confirmation and for high value items (specifically, over $250 in value), the seller should obtain signature confirmation. This will help protect you in a case where the buyer files an Item Not Received dispute with eBay or PayPal.
As for the insurance you purchased: Insurance on a shipped item protects you, the seller, in cases where you might have to refund the buyer for an item not received, either willingly or as a result of a ruling in favor of the buyer in any disputes filed by the buyer with PayPal or eBay.
Posted by buyalot! on Dec 9, 2009 2:59 PM
Fee Credit For UPIs
Griff,
I e-mailed you about this issue on 11/23 and you never replied.
I do apologize. I searched my ginormous Inbox, found your email, unopened and unanswered. It was purely an oversight on my part.
I had an unpaid item (fixed price) due to deadbeat buyer from Italy. I went to relist it and the form said it was not eligible for a free relist. I asked customer support and they told me that fixed price items aren't eligible for any free relists (not even for unpaid items).
I know this is not how it used to work. I should get all my fees back for unpaid items, but eBay changed it. Does that sound fair to you? Shouldn't I get a free relist regardless of listing type if there was an unpaid item?
We have never issued insertion fee credits for fixed price listings that didn’t sell on the first attempt. The insertion fee credit, from its inception in the early days of eBay to today, has only applied to auction format listings, either the pure auction format or the auction format with Buy It Now and for those, we credit the second insertion fee only and only if the item sells on the second attempt.
Posted by pltbowie on Dec 9, 2009 4:15 PM
Change in Status
Griff,
I seem to be behind times? The day before billing I went from a 20% discount to NONE? I see nothing in my dashboard to cause this unexpected, unpleasant change.
I don’t have an answer on hand. I purposely do not have access to member accounts (I used to but voluntarily gave it up in order to avoid any appearance of a conflict of interest.) Email the details to me and I will forward it to CS for their response.
Posted by deltamaster on Dec 9, 2009 4:44 PM
How Top Rated Seller Status is Evaluated
Question: Why are discounts afforded as result of a snapshot instead of an average of ratings during the rating period?
It would be a more accurate view of a seller's satisfaction rating (and the true sense of rating at all) if those rewards were afforded as a result of an average of all the ratings accumulated over the last month. The snapshot method merely focuses on one moment of one day chosen at random (?) near the end of the month and in no way offers a true sense of the seller's rating and should not be used to calculate any rewards a seller may receive for satisfying their customers.
I asked my colleague, Dawn Sullivan for a response. Dawn oversees the Top Rated Seller and PowerSeller programs. Her response:
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The evaluations are on the 20th of the month for Seller Performance status which dictates discounts – this is what is on the “Last Evaluation” tab. The “Current Evaluation” tab shows how a seller is trending toward the next evaluation period. Concerning the 20th date, hoping I can explain this one clearly, but please let me know otherwise. The old way evaluated was based off of feedback received during the last 30-days for discounts – and we averaged the DSR’s based on when the feedback was received, not when the transaction occurred. In today’s system, we tie feedback back to the date of the transaction, and look at full calendar months of transactions (the most recent three calendar months for high volume, and twelve for low volume). Since feedback generally takes two to three weeks to be left, we evaluate the most recent calendar months on the 20th of the month, to allow the most recent completed transactions to receive feedback. The process of evaluation and updated statuses for Top-rated only happens monthly – on the 20th – so the evaluation isn’t “random” as the member describes… perhaps it the current evaluation that the member sees that gets confusing… the dashboard isn’t a intuitive as we’d like, but improvements will be made to the Dashboard in 2010.
Hope that helps! And, happy holidays!
-Dawn
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Posted by instantvideogames on Dec 9, 2009 6:12 PM
Promotional eMails Featuring Free Shipping
Hello Griff,
Could you explain to me what the promotional email with the subject line: "Free shipping on the season's hottest toys" is supposed to mean?
It means that there are listings of the season’s hottest toys on eBay that also offer Free Shipping.
The body of the email says: The toys on their wish list ship free What does that mean? I don't see any kind of rebate terms, or offer or anything else related to The toys on their wish list ship free. Is this just a non-statement that means nothing?
The links in the email point to searches for listings of the hottest toys that also provide Free Shipping.
What concerns me, is that directly below that, are my items, and they don't have free shipping. Is eBay trying to get buyers to harass me for free shipping? Neg me for bait and switch? I just can not think of an upside to this. If eBay wants to tell me there's free listings and charge me double, that's fine. We have a business relationship, and I am a big boy. I know that every offer is misleading at best. Fine. But the consumers? We can't be treating the consumers the way we treat sellers. I thought eBay treated the sellers the way they do because they considered the consumers the real customer, but if eBay starts using the same unqualified superlative exaggerations on the consumers you're doomed.
I asked a member of the marketing team to provide some insight into the email and specifically why your items were appearing in the email sent to you.
Hi Griff,
I’m sorry to hear about the seller’s frustration and confusion. That was certainly not our intent. The references to toys with free shipping had to do with the main merchandising content of the email. The images and text links of toys all linked to search results filtered for free shipping. We were trying to communicate that eBay has the hot toys with free shipping.
Some users received an extra section of dynamic personalized content in the email. It was either 2 recently viewed items, 6 items similar to what they last looked at or 4 items similar to what they last purchased. I can see where someone might get confused by this section of content since it could very well not be toys or free shipping. We look at how to best address this in upcoming emails.
If your items were appearing in the email you received, it would be because those were the items that you last viewed. (Not every recipient of the email is seeing the same items in that box).
Posted by rdcomics on Dec 9, 2009 7:46 PM
Missing Announcement and Insurance Policy Compliance & Enforcement
Hi again! About the Fall Seller Update:
On September 22, Mr. Lathi announced the implementation of the first round of updates. This was done with no User Agreement in place. That is, the one that was then current (ending Sept/28) was not available to the whole of the eBay.com user community, since at least mid-August, and remained so until the new one took effect Sept/29.
This message by Mr. Lathi has, since mid-October, been been erased from the announcement boards. As eBay has stated that they do not erase announcement board messages, why was this one deleted? (recalled?)
Thanks for pointing this out. I too recalled a Sep 22 announcement post from Dinesh and was concerned to find that it was no longer viewable since we definitely do not delete announcements. A little digging uncovered the post in an archive but unlinked. It had not been ported over when we moved from the old to the new Announcement Board format back in early November. It is back up now.
Also, and this is extremely important, Mr. Lathi has not yet annouced if the enforcement of the line "not responsible for uninsured items" is in place nor if the Best Seller Practices policy is in place. Why is that as he has been listing all other Fall Seller updates implementation and not these two? This is very important for a seller to know the exact dates these policies will come into place as it may result in violation strikes. A very serious matter for a seller. Finally, about that insurance line above, eBay's system, while flagging the banned line when a seller is in the process of listing an item, still allows the item to be listed. Why does it not halt the listing, as it does with mention of paper payments, and refuse its submission until seller makes corrective changes? If this thread is to be closed I am also putting in this..
Happy Holidays to you and your family and friends.
Thank you! And a very Happy Holiday to you and yours as well! I spoke with Trust and Safety and the enforcement of the Insurance policy is, because of the sheer number of violating listings, in a steady, but slow, ramp up process. Currently they are focusing on Top Rated Sellers and pressing enforcement with them, first with a demand for editing the offending text and, if the seller does not comply, we are ending the listings. This is also the case with the Seller Practices policy.
Trust and Safety is purposely not announcing a date for full compliance by all sellers but will do so well in advance. In the meantime, all sellers should be taking this opportunity prior to the requirement for full compliance to edit their listings, both for the insurance policy and the Seller Practices policy.
Posted by ted_200 on Dec 9, 2009 9:08 PM
Outage Questions
Hi Griff,
Two more questions about the "outage", and I will leave you be for the month.
After the 1999 incident, Meg and Pierre issued a pretty straight-forward apology (without the qualifiers and provisos we saw this time). In it, they promised a fully functional back up "hot site" that would prevent any future prolonged site outages. As someone who has worked in Risk Management, I can tell you that this is something required of even medium-sized companies who only rely on computers for peripheral functions like accounting and inventory control. As a large corporation that relies on a computer network as their entire business model, it is unimaginable such a back up plan was not in place. That was over a decade ago now, yet it would appear a functioning back up system is still not in place.
Is there still no functional hot back up site in place? Or, was there some internal command and control issue that prevented it from being placed into service in a timely manner?
Unlike the famous 1999 outage (I remember that weekend all too well), this recent outage was due to software, not hardware (it was an errant line of code). The physical network and platform for eBay was radically changed after 1999 and is now “backed up” with layers of redundancy that extend around the globe. Software issues, like the one that caused this outage, are extremely rare anomaly and impossible to predict or detect until they happen.
Lastly, there were board posts indicating there were issues in the very early a.m. hours in the Central and Eastern time zones, and other posts indicating issues well into Sunday. How was it determined the "outage" was from 0945 to 2359 on Saturday?
Our own extensive and extremely detailed eBay network logs which indicated when the problem started and when the fix kicked in.
Thanks for your patience and dedication, and Merry Christmas to you and yours!
Thank you and the same for you and yours as well!
Posted by celtictwo on Dec 10, 2009 1:43 AM
Help from PayPal and eBay
Griff;
Is there a central "help" available if one in unsure if the issue involves eBay of PayPal?
Case in point - My last several shipments using PayPal shipping are not updating my Selling Manager pages. Items shipped through PayPal still showed as Awaiting Shipment in SM. My real concern is that it appears my customers are not getting the Shipped notices from PayPal and I am rated on communication.
I've had similar issues in the past and both parties (i.e. - eBay and PayPal) blame each other and nothing gets accomplished. If there is no central "help", would it be something that should be considered?
You should be able to obtain help on this issue regardless of which part of eBay you approach for help. For now, feel free to send the details to me at griff@ebay.com (using regular email, not My Messages) and I will forward it to the appropriate team for review.
If you have shipped the item, you can change the status in My eBay >Selling Manager from “waiting shipment” to “shipped.” That will also indicate to the buyer the item shipped.
Posted by cmrhode on Dec 10, 2009 6:58 AM
Buyer Claims Items are Not Functioning
The buyer claims that the item (web camera) is defective. I have sold 5 of these units and he bought 2. None of the others had any problem and I used it lately and it worked fine. He claims NEITHER work.
He took the camera apart to "inspect it" which seems inappropriate. I offered, before he told me that he took it apart, to pay for the return and to refund his money. But now the story seems too weird.
His company sells these things and so I don't know what I will be getting back since he opened it up and now claims that there are problems.
He is also threatening my 100% good rating. What do I do with someone like this?
Tell him to ship the items back to you in the condition in which they were sent, and that you will issue a refund once the items are back in your hands. Once you have the items, issue the refund. Then either relist the items or, if they are indeed not working, discard them and move on to the next customer.
A tip: If the item you list has a unique identifying mark, in this case, a serial number for example, take a photo of the serial number and indicate it as a part of the text description as well. This will discourage any buyer who intends to “switch out” a non functioning item for your working item. Another preventative: if the surfaces of your items will not be marred by them, consider using tamper proof labels. If the item is of high value, and you often sell high value items, consider custom made tamper proof labels.
Posted by rdcomics on Dec 10, 2009 9:37 AM
Top Rated Seller Program
Hi! I get to do one more.
After expressing concerns over how eBay initiated the TRS program in early October, eBay, in an email exchange, finally admitted that some sellers were given PS and TRS status without meeting the minimum qualifications needed for attaining PS status. The reason given was, basically, that they were close enough so eBay did it as a courtesy to them. I find this hard to believe that eBay would be giving preferential treatment to some sellers over others.
What was the reduced criteria used to allow these privilege users to attain PS status?
I asked Dawn Sullivan who manages the Top Rated and PowerSeller programs, and she replied:
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Hi Griff!
This is inaccurate. We announced the new lower criteria for PowerSellers back in July – there was never a “close enough” evaluation. Here’s the link to the July announcement and content that spells out what we did (see below).
Thanks!
-Dawn
http://pages.ebay.com/sell/July2009Update/Details/index.html#1-2
New eBay Top-rated seller status:It's not sales volume that distinguishes quality of service. That's why, starting in October, a new PowerSeller status—eBay Top-rated seller—will highlight and reward those sellers creating the best buyer experiences.
- eBay Top-rated sellers will earn top rewards: 20% fee discounts, exclusive promotion in search results for Fixed Price listings, exclusive ability to purchase Featured First, and a prominent Top-rated seller badge on their item pages.
- PowerSellers of all levels, from Bronze to Titanium, can qualify as eBay Top-rated sellers if they have at least 100 transactions and $3,000 sales in the past year, and low DSRs (1s and 2s) on no more than 0.50% of all transactions with U.S. buyers on each of their 4 DSRs.
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Conversely, if that is not the case, as the TRS program is tied into the PS program, when the TRS program was initiated, did it not also activate the PS program that was suppose to only take place in April 2010? As a result, automatic PS invites were sent to sellers who met the April/2010 qualifications.
See the above, “PowerSellers of all levels, from Bronze to Titanium, can qualify as eBay Top-rated sellers if they have at least 100 transactions and $3,000 sales in the past year, and low DSRs (1s and 2s) on no more than 0.50% of all transactions with U.S. buyers on each of their 4 DSRs.”
Also, as eBay may have been aware of this conflict, did eBay put a halt on releasing those sellers who had loss their PS status, a short time before start of TRS program, so that these sellers would not be invited back into the PS program at the start of October with the APR/2010 qualifications?
I apologize but I don’t understand this question.
eBay did do unscheduled PS evaluations just before the first monthly TRS evaluation was initiated OCT 20/21, removing all those "outstanding" loss PS sellers who were "AT RISK".
That is not correct. See above.
Posted by flapjackluvr on Dec 10, 2009 5:22 PM
Feedback Removal
Hey Griff,
My question is can a feedback be removed or changed?
Changed as in “edited”? No, it cannot. Removed? Possibly. The criteria for feedback removal can be found in our Help pages by searching Help for “feedback removal.”
Posted by trueboy on Dec 10, 2009 7:01 PM
DSRs, Customs Issues and International Buyers
Hi, Griff:
As the poster in #9 raised certain questions about DSR's, that's my concern as well.
Specifically, I had an international buyer who was notified twice about her customs charges. She refused to pay her customs charges and never received the item.
It was her own fault she didn't receive her package and ebay allowed her to post fraudulent information (to quote her, "THERE ARE NO CUSTOMS CHARGES ON USED CLOTHING! RESEARCH YOUR FACTS!") on my feedback.
My problem is this: She refused to pay duties to her country, she never received the package--so how can ebay allow her to rate my DSR's when she never saw the items through no one's fault but her own?
It's a frustrating concept, and I would certainly appreciate any information you could offer.
Thank you!
Two points you should be aware of (and will be happy to learn I am sure):
Although it was announced that it would start in April, DSRs left currently by international buyers for US sellers do not count in the qualification calculations for either Top Rated Seller or PowerSeller.
Currently, we will remove negative feedback and low ratings left by international buyers where the feedback contains a reference to customs fees, hold ups, duties, etc, but only if the seller has followed the specific guidelines stated here in the Help Pages.
Posted by bcbookkeeper09 on Dec 10, 2009 9:05 PM
Unpaid Items
Same here I have had more nonpaying bidders in the last two months than in all the years I've been selling on eBay. Most are new buyers or snippers. I have also noticed that my DSR's take a hit when I file a claim and force payment.In the past I have had items damaged or SNAD claims after forcing a buyer to complete a purchase they ,for whate ever reason, don't want. I'd rather cancel the sale and relist but if I do that it leaves me open to neg feedback from a buyer who hasn't paid for an item and has not answered any of my emails to them.
Don't tell me I'm doing something wrong. Alllistings are detailed, shipping cost and all fees are in the listings. I have a (no reason needed) 14 day return policy. Why can't I just cancel a sale to a nonresponsive bidder after a set number of days?
The best way to handle a nonresponsive bidder or buyer is to file a UPI. If the buyer doesn’t respond, you can close the dispute and the buyer will be blocked from leaving feedback or ratings.
Why does a nonpaying bidder have the right to leave feedback/ DSR on a canceled sale?
There may be valid reasons for non-payment or a buyer asking for a cancellation. For example, the seller adds more shipping post sale (I had an email from a buyer this morning about a case like this) or the seller may have requested a cancellation because he didn’t like the final price of an auction listing. In cases like these, the buyer had the opportunity to leave an appropriate feedback reflecting their experience with the seller.
Posted by xanreads on Dec 11, 2009 7:34 AM
Buyer Requests a Buy It Now Price
Hi, I am new to Ebay. I posted an item for bid and someone sent a message they want to know final price to pay today... Is that allowed. If I respond, how do I ensure payment. And do I send the item before or after payment. Can I sell it to this person right away before a bid is entered, due to thier interest?
Welcome to eBay!
A buyer can ask such a question but a seller does not have to oblige. You can list an item as an auction format with a Buy It Now price but there are restrictions if you are a brand new seller with a feedback score of less than 10. You can read more on our Help pages by searching on Buy It Now.
In addition, you can list a Fixed Price item (there are some restrictions for new sellers which can be overridden by following the steps here. Look on that page under the section for “Requirements.”) with a Best Offer so that buyers can submit an offered price, which you can accept, ignore or respond with a counter offer. You can learn more about Best Offer by searching our Help pages on the words, Best Offer.
For this listing, you would have to end it early and relist it with the Fixed Price format. If you are restricted by your lack of a 10 or more feedback score, there are ways to override the restriction. You can read about them on the Buy It Now Help page, in the section marked “requirements.”
Thank you!
Posted by rdcomics on Dec 11, 2009 7:48 AM
Top Rate Seller Program
I guess I get to do another one. Looks like I'll be using up my alotment for 2010 with this month.
Concerning the TRS program.............
How is it possible that eBay does not know how unfair it is being to the seller community, who are paying to use their service, by giving one set of sellers an advantage over another set just because one set happens to sell more items, volume or price-wise, over another set?
Many sellers (myself included) actually have better percentages than some sellers who have a TRS badge. Our listing show ABOVE those with TRS badges in searches, and at times are ABOVE all the TRS sellers in that particular search, yet the TSR seller has this showing when buyer checks them out...
All other things being equal in a Best Match sort, a Top Rated Seller will receive advantage in ranking. But keep in mind, the single biggest factor is relevance, not seller status. So it is entirely possible for a seller not in the Top Rated Seller program to have their item ranked over a Top Rated Seller.
On TRS sellers feedback page they have these wordings associated with their id....
Consistently receives highest buyers' rating
True.
Ships item quickly
True.
Has earned a track record of excellent servive
True.
Also, when placing cursor over TRS badge, they get this....
Get fast shipping and excellent service when you buy from eBay Top-rates seller.
True.
Sellers, with better feedback/DSR scores and no TRS get this...
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Nothing.
If a buyer is indicisive over which seller to buy from, who do you think they will choose? The one will eBay's "seal of approval" or the one with no seal.
We would hope the Top Rated Seller (with the badge that indicates previous buyer’s “seal of approval” as provided by eBay.) That is, after all, the whole point of the program.
As the TRS is strictly used for billing purposes and somewhat for better search results, why have it showing to the buyer? It should only be internal between seller and eBay.
I couldn’t disagree more. The Top Rated Seller program was created to recognize and reward those sellers whose buyers leave them the highest ratings (and the lowest number of 1 or 2 ratings). As one of the rewards, those sellers receive a 20% discount on their fees. As another reward, the TRS badge is intended to alert buyers that a seller displaying the badge has earned recognition as a Top Rated Seller by the high ratings previous buyers have left.
At the same time, a TRS seller who loses status due to loss PS status or one or two low DSR's, will now have all that freebie verbiage missing in their listings. A buyer may question, "What happened to this seller that he/she lost eBay's seal of approval?. I think I'll pass on this seller for the time being.".
Yes, that could happen.
Pleae explain eBay's reasoning. Thanks.
The eBay Top-rated seller status is intended to recognize PowerSellers who consistently provide the best experiences to their customers. The program differentiates sellers by their relative performance and offers incentives and rewards for providing great buyer experiences. The Top Rated Seller program helps elevate the level of overall buyer trust in the eBay marketplace.
Posted by msfmx on Dec 11, 2009 8:22 AM
Using Buyer Requirements to Reduce the Incidence of Unpaid Items
This seems to be an on going problem, i have 8 out of 10 auctions that i am still waiting for payment.
help us out griff...
Are you utilizing all of the available Buyer Requirements?
What are buyer requirements?
You can block buyers from bidding on or purchasing your items by specifying buyer requirements. You can block buyers who:
- Don't have a PayPal account
- Have unpaid items recorded on their account
- Are registered in countries you don't ship to
- Have reportedly violated eBay policies
- Have a Feedback score lower than the number you specify
- Are currently winning or have bought '1-100' of your items in the last 10 days (you can specify the number)
I checked your listings and it appears you are not using the requirement that requires all buyers to have a PayPal account. That one is important. Using it can reduce a seller’s rate of UPI buyers by up to 17% or more.
To djbkg and dorothysew: I will post answers to your questions about Store Inventory Format in Search Results as soon as I have it (I am still awaiting final answers from the Search team).
In recognition of the Holidays, this will be the end of the December Ask Griff thread. We will start a January 2010 thread the second week of January.
This is also the end of the first full year of the Ask Griff project (I started it back in January of 2009). I thank everyone who has participated to date and hope you will rejoin us next year we start Year Two!
Until then, enjoy the Holidays with your friends and family. Drive safe, cherish the season and those you love. Here's looking forward to a happy and prosperous eBay New Year!
Regards,
Griff
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