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Ask Griff - June 2009

May 31, 2009 3:22 PM
Ask Griff - June 2009

Hello all,

Welcome to the Ask Griff thread for the month of June, 2009. My name is Jim Griffith (known to most as Griff). I have been with eBay since 1996. You can learn more about me on my About Mepage.

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Jun 8, 2009 7:01 AM
Please note: If your recently asked question is not included below but your original post is still displayed, then I haven't received the information yet that I need to provide a response to your question.

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Posted by buckarooandco on May 31, 2009 4:31 PM

UPI Process Suggestion
Dear Griff,

When ebay used to 'allow' us to accept alternate forms of payment other than paypal (or whatever the other ones are), 7 days to file a NPB was not that unreasonable.

Now, though, it is.

I expect to be paid in a reasonable time frame.

I just had 2 NPB's. Neither have a legitimate phone number on file.

Yet I had to wait 7 days to file a NPB. And now I have to wait 7 more 'just in case' they may pay me?

Are the powers that be planning on taking this into consideration?


3 days to pay should be sufficient, unless contact has been made. We should be able to file an NPB on that day.

If there isn't a reply the 4th day we should be able to close it and relist our item. AND we should get ALL our fees back, not just the FVF, since it was ebay's fault for letting someone who is a deadbeat register and bid on our items in the first place.

Has this been addressed? PLEASE PLEASE it needs to be.

As I have posted in recent AG threads as a response to previous questions identical to your: Yes, we will be streamling the entire UPI process including shortening the time required before filing.





Posted by hawgryders on May 31, 2009 5:09 PM

Recent eBayInk Blog on Feedback Testing
My question was originally posted to the Brian Burke Blog and according to Richard Brewer-Hay there may be an answer there but I would like your feelings on this since I assume you were a part of the team that came up with these new feedback options

Mr. Burke's reasoning for using only high volume sellers (I translate that to Diamonds)

And that would be incorrect. There are not enough Diamond PowerSellers to constitute a viable test segment. There are plenty of high volume sellers in every tier of the current PowerSeller program.

was that "Second, by using higher volume sellers they won’t be negatively impacted by any “lost FB”. A low volume seller who misses out on receiving all 5s may be adversely impacted, it is less likely to adversely impact a large seller if they miss a few buyer’s leaving them all 5 DSRs."

And my problem with this was (as posted there) ...

The reasoning you use for not using low volume sellers is why you should be using them. Any system established needs to be geared towards those who can least afford the possible negative impacts of the proposal … unless your intent is to eliminate them

The statement Brian made was with regards to the test environment, not the existing feedback system. The risk in a live test situation is that unforeseen consequences (like a low rate of received feedback) need to be avoided so that those sellers in the test are not adversely affected as a result.

The feedback system as it existed for 10+ years did not need fixing or revamping. It worked adequately in nearly all cases (I would guess abuse was less than .1%)

The previous feedback system was driving honest, repeat buyers off the site. Left unchecked, the system would have eventually (and quickly) resulted in the unsustainable loss of buyers. And your guess regarding the rate of abuse (and the use of Mutual Feedback Withdrawal for “removing” buyer left negatives left in retaliation was abuse, plain and simple) was way off.

The new system seems to have raised the abuse factor immensely (my opinion on this is from reading Seller Central)

And that would be an incorrect assumption. The rate of actual feedback abuse has declined, significantly.

I agree it did need a bit of tweaking. Now I seem to remember the only complaint was retaliatory feedback was being used by a few sellers to keep buyers from leaving negatives - so the changes began with how to stop that.

Interestingly enough, that could have been solved by inserting a few extra lines of code to stop a seller from leaving a negative for a buyer who paid them.

No it could not, not then and not now. Your solution could not take into account offline payments (checks, money orders, etc) which are still allowed in some categories.


Then a real appeals process could have been used to protect sellers from abuse.

Problem solved …

Instead, the Draconian Response to the issue has led to an adversarial relationship between sellers and buyers, and now most eBay users anticipate a problem on every transaction

That is not an accurate assessment. Yes, some sellers might “anticipate a problem” on every transaction, but the reality is that most do not.

I know I drifted slightly off-topic here … however, I hope my intent was not lost

So my questions to you are two-fold

First ...

[Do you feel the new proposals do anything to lessen the damage a malicious buyer can do to the small sellers ?]

No rating system is going to guarantee every seller that they are going to garner the highest ratings possible on every transaction. The purpose of testing these various versions it to determine if they are effective in getting more buyers to leave ratings by making the entire process easier to complete and to understand. We are also taking the suggestions we have received from you, sellers, regarding a wider spread (a 1 – 10 scale as opposed to a 1 -5 scale) to see if it results in greater differentiation between sellers. (the 1 – 10 scale was and is, the overwhelming choice among sellers by the way).

As far as “damage a malicious buyer can do to the small sellers,” what is a “malicious buyer?” I have seen sellers here accuse a buyer of being “malicious” just for stating their opinion in feedback. You asked below for my personal opinion so I will give it now. My personal opinion is that a buyer that gives their opinion about a transaction is not acting maliciously.

The majority of small sellers on eBay have excellent feedback and ratings, even low volume small sellers. They do this by providing great service to all their customers. And the vast majority of these sellers don’t view each potential customer as someone out to “damage” them. They view them as potential valuable business assets: a future loyal repeat customer.



And second ...

[Given the choices shown which one do you personally favor ?]

And yes I am asking for your opinion here as a member of the eBay community ... not as a Senior Manager working for Brian Burke

I don’t yet favor any single one over the others. I haven’t seen all the test results. However, I am a strong proponent of simplicity so I would tend to lean to support the one that is the simplest.

BTW, Brian and I are colleagues (we go back a long time at eBay. He started in early 1999). Though we have worked together on many projects over the years, I don’t report to or work for him. Not sure if I have ever shared this here but apropos of nothing, I have been here longer than any other employee.








Posted by ozzie3 on May 31, 2009 5:45 PM

Shipping Costs Using A Third Party Packing and Shipping Service

As you have perhaps noticed that the sellers now are hesitant to list and sell high priced items, due to the inability of sellers to tell good buyers from bad buyers,

Really? “The sellers” as in “all sellers?” I have to disagree with you there. Sure, “some sellers” maybe hesitant but we have definitely not noticed any overarching trend of seller hesitancy to list high value items on the site. Cases in point:

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and as the recent changes have made the sellers more responsible for satisfying the buyers ,

which was indeed the intention and is a good thing for everyone.

what would you say to the sellers that would encourage them to continue to list the higher priced items?

I would advise sellers (as I have always advised sellers) to research the actual trends on the site before jumping to conclusions based on only the reports of a few individuals (See the links above). I would also throw in that I personally have had good to excellent results listing high value items on eBay both in the past and currently and will continue to do so.

As eBay radio has an advertiser ,PakMal, and as that company charges quite a bit more for their services than the average seller, would you advise a seller to list PakMails charges on the listing, even though it will get hit wilh and excessive shipping charge notice in most cases?

It depends on the item and the business practices of the seller. Many sellers of higher value, rare and fragile “hard to ship” items will use a service like Pak Mail and either estimate the cost up front or will offer free shipping and subtract the cost of shipping from the profit. For example, like many sellers, I offer free shipping on all the items I list (within the US). If I know up front that I can reasonably expect to realize a certain price for an item and if would be smarter to have it packed and shipped by a third party who specializes in the service, then I believe (as do many sellers) that the service is well worth the cost to me (free shipping, remember) in order to guarantee that the item arrives intact (with tracking) at the buyer’s location. The result? I have a steady 5.0 DSR for shipping cost and no disputes about items arriving damaged in transit, at least not since using a third party. (I did have a very expensive wooden Italian altar candlestick smashed by a USPS truck into splinters three years ago. I was able to remedy the situation quickly – a full refund - and I later collected the insurance from USPS. That was the last time I used USPS for shipping anything antique, high value and fragile). However, the assumption that charging a shipping cost for this service for appropriate items will result in a seriously degraded shipping cost DSR or a “charge of excessive shipping” is unfounded. Buyers are high priced antiques and collectibles (and pottery and glass) are most concerned that their purchase will arrive intact even if that means paying extra for the guarantee in the way of employing a professional packing and shipping service). What is important in these cases is that the seller provides as much information about the method of packing and shipping and the costs, if any, in the item description.






Posted by signature-athletes on May 31, 2009 6:27 PM

VeRO Violation and Policy Compliance Levels

Hi Griff,
On April 6th I was accused of a trademark violation - unauthorized item by a VeRO member. I sell only eBay approved, authenticated items, but unfortunately, a competitor did not approve of my items, so I was turned in. Now, I don't agree that these items can be deemed counterfeit by pictures (especially when they are authenticated by some of the biggest companies), but apparently there is no argument that eBay will deem appropriate with a VeRO issue, so I am done complaining about that.

Sorry to hear this happened. Your competitors did not turn you in for VeRO violations. The only person or entity that can do that is the actual rights owner (VeRO member). Please take a moment to read up on eBay’s VeRO program and the federal law called the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) which requires us to remove listings when a rights owner demands we do so.


As for my policy compliance, how is it that I can go from "High" to "Very Low" with one issue? This must mean there really is no "Low" or "Medium". As a PowerSeller with 99.9% feedback as well as very high DSRs (4.86-5.0), can't eBay use a little better judgment in rating their sellers based on one unfortunate incident? Luckily, at this time, my discounts, DSRs, etc. are not affected, but I sure don't think it is fair that I am on pins and needles wondering when another competitor may decide one of my items is not in compliance and therefor, undoubtedly lead to a suspension (after 2 incidences).

Please help me understand how one goes from "High" to "Very Low" so easily. Thanks a bunch!

VeRO violations are one of the most serious violations on eBay. Unlike other violations which could result in lowering of compliance to a median level, a report by a VeRO member of infringing items will always result in a seller’s Policy Compliance level dropping immediately to “very low.” However, if the seller can convince the rights owner that their “takedown” demand was not warranted (the seller has proven to the rights owner that the item is authentic) and the rights owner informs us directly of the reversal, we may remove the policy violation from the seller’s account which could result in the Compliance level rising (no other extenuating circumstances like other violations, etc)



Posted by celt13 on May 31, 2009 6:34 PM

An Unusual Situation With Another Buyer/Seller

Hi Griff,

I really need your advice and help on this one.This is a very unusual situation (I know you've never heard that before ). I have a buyer that seems to be in violation of several eBay policies.
I had a motorcycle part listed with the Best Offer option.
The BIN price was $25.
An eBay member made me an offer of $15 which was automatically declined.
The same eBay member then made me a $20 offer that I let expire.
Finally, this same eBay member made me an offer of $22.50
For some odd reason, call it a whim, call it intuition, but I decided to check out this potential buyer’s feedback and see what they might also have for sale.
Turns out this that eBay member has the exact motorcycle part with a BIN of $150 (compared to my $25 BIN), AND this eBay member copied my title and description- exactly to the letter! They used the same type and size font, the same colorized words and had the same typo’s that my listing’s description and title had. (I have sold several of these items using the same exact wordage for the past six months, so there is no question over where this, what now seems to be a, rival seller stole my exact wordage.)
Seeing that this potential buyer was using my description got me rather upset.
I work hard on my descriptions and I really hate it when someone steals one of them.
I decided that later that day I would report this member for Description Theft ( i.e. copying my listing), but right then and there I declined their offer and put them on my Blocked Bidder List.
The next day, I received an eBay message from him asking “do you want to sell it or not?”
I did not respond to this message.
Three hours after receiving the eBay message another buyer purchased the item with BIN.
Hang on, this gets better...
You know how whenever someone leaves you a best offer you can see what their zip code is? Well, low and behold, the buyer has the very same zip code as the person whose offers I did not accept, who stole my description and who was placed on my blocked bidder list.
It is not a stretch to realize that the member whose three offers I declined or ignored and who is on my BBL got a friend to purchase my item.
I am now afraid that if I report the seller who stole my description (whose offers I did not accept) it will be pretty obvious who reported them and I will be heading into receiving a negative and getting single stars across the board.
I have done nothing wrong and am well within eBay policy to report this person for stealing my description, but how can I report this member when now I have to worry about the dreaded neg and getting my stars dinged?

Interesting situation. I suggest separating out the two main issues (borrowing of your description text, and the possibility of the ultimate buyer being the same buyer that you blocked) and dealing with them separately. Although I fully understand your initial anger at the seller for lifting some (if not all) of your item description, it is best to put that one aside at least for now and deal with the immediate issue at hand; and that is, are you going to ship this item to the buyer? Or are you going to refund the buyer and cancel the sale (which could result in a negative feedback).

Could it be true that the original buyer asked a local friend to purchase the item? Sure. But how are you going to prove it? If the buyer is not connected to the first buyer by verifiable data beyond zip code, then we (eBay) cannot rule that this was a case of a buyer subverting your blocking and unless you have access to communication records between the two buyers that proves the first buyer asked the second buyer to purchase the item on his behalf, then it would be inappropriate for you to accuse the first buyer of acting as an agent for the first buyer. Even if you are absolutely certain, what if you are wrong? You are going to anger the actual buyer and that could be counter-productive. Plus you have to ask yourself if a big reason for your anger is actually that he is trying to sell the same item for a much higher price. If this is even remotely the case, I would strongly urge you to let that one go. (Besides, your item’s price may be closer to reality).

My advice: Assume nothing without proof. Ship the item to the buyer of record and use a tracking option. Then leave the buyer a positive feedback. As for the borrowed description, I can only tell you what I would do which would be nothing, at least not immediately. If the buyer left me a positive (they might), I might then possibly report the other seller for borrowing my description. But actually, I probably wouldn’t.

It’s a matter of personal taste. I am not overly bothered if another seller lifts part of my description (it has happened) and I don’t think reporting him would be worth the risk of the seller harassing me with other accounts. But this is ultimately a decision you must make for yourself.

Finally don’t lose site of the most important aspect of this entire affair; you are making a sale, and you competitor isn’t (at least not at the moment). And making a sale is what really matters most.





Posted by chivasmomma on May 31, 2009 6:41 PM

Displaying the Country of a Buyer

I would like to know if you can at least reveal the country of buyers on ended listings. I understand wanting to protect your buyers. I just need the information as to where certain items are selling. I come across many items that sell internationally better than they do in the US. I used to market to those buyers. Now I can't tell who is buying what.

I will forward your request to the appropriate team for consideration but in the meantime, you may want to try using a research product like Terapeak.com which you can use to search individual eBay country sites by category and/or keyword.




Posted by ted_on May 31, 2009 7:42 PM

Authenticity Questions
Hi Griff,

Last weeks answers about the counterfeit items policy seemed to be saying those policies only apply to "name brand" or "trademarked" counterfeits.

That is correct.

This is completely news to me! What is the policy, then, for the "other" counterfeits? You know, fake coins, stamps, reproduction antiques, gemstones, and the like... Is this why listings for these fakes that get reported never get removed? And if the counterfeit policy (as regards to refunding payments) only covers "name brand" or "trademarked" items, why would PayPal (and soon, eBay) issue a refund on them? If the item in the picture is the item the buyer got, and the counterfeit item policy does not apply to the item, what is the basis for any SNAD refund?

With one exception (counterfeit currency) on eBay, the word “counterfeit” applies only to items that violate (infringe) on another person’s or company’s property rights (trademark or copyright). As for the categories of items mentioned above, unless an item is counterfeit US currency (A federal crime), the actual items are miscategorized and not in themselves violations of eBay policy. We are currently working on the Coins category, specifically, creating the final categories for reproduction before releasing the final policy about proper categorization. We can then accept and act on reports of coins that are miscategorized (for example, replicas in non replica categories).

I'm not trying to defend or stick up for the countless sellers of unbranded counterfeit items here, but there is also the problem of issuing SNAD refunds for buyer's remorse, and and I'm failing to see any difference in the two, now. Why not just come out and say it - "We will refund any buyer, for any reason real or imagined, whether or not they send the original item, a different item, or nothing at all, back to the seller."?

Because that is not the case and it would be grossly inaccurate for to make that statement. For example, in the case where a seller who appeals a SNAD case because the item the buyer sent back is not the item the seller sold and shipped to the buyer (and the seller has followed the required steps for an appeal), the seller may have a reasonable expectation that the dispute will be reversed. That buyer could in fact, be suspended from eBay. Yes, a buyer who pays with PayPal is covered by PayPal Buyer Protection but Buyer Protection doesn’t protect the buyer who we determine has defrauded a seller.

However, in no fault cases, we will reserve the right to issue a refund, our of our pocket and with no consequence to the seller, to a buyer at our discretion, in cases where we believe it is appropriate and the right thing to do.





Posted by chopsueysisters on May 31, 2009 7:47 PM

Upcoming Resolutions and Accepted Payments

Hi Griff,

Partly follow up from our email. I was thinking, if a seller brings their own merchant account and then will have to use payflows gateway. If there's a problem with them servicing a customers order, ie (fake or non communitive, etc) . will the merchant ever get charged or have to cough up monies? Seems to me if a seller uses their paypal account instead that the process allows for that money to be retrieved. Can that also be done with the payflow gateway? Do you see what I mean? Because if its one sided then wouldn't sellers want to get away from using paypal and hop on the merchant account/gateway? Where's the clawback for them when clawbacks happen?

The upcoming Resolutions policy will cover all forms of accepted payments, not just PayPal. So a seller using their own merchant account will be subject to the same possible consequences as all sellers in dispute cases. As for “clawback” (nice word. I assume you mean “charge back” but I get the point), that has yet to be determined.



Posted by adrian44 on May 31, 2009 8:21 PM

More Questions About “Authenticity”
Hello Griff,

I am totally confused about the "Authenticity Policy."

I believe I read somewhere on eBay that in certain cases the buyer would be told to destroy the item! Is that true

No, it is not.

and if it is isn't that really throw a wrench in things. I mean like any dishonest buyer can report not authentic on an item and be told to destroy it? Who determines if said item is or isn't authentic? Would that not give a seller legal recourse if a buyer was told to destroy their item? Please straighten me out on this issue.

Sure. Read the latest announcement regarding changes to the eBay User Agreement with regards to SNAD disputes about counterfeit items.






Posted by claypipe on May 31, 2009 8:42 PM

Possible Accepted Payment Policy Violations

Hello, I have some questions about sellers on eBay who are advertising and taking checks or money orders in "some" of their listings but not all. If a seller is found to have say 100 or even 1000 items listed and has say 10 items out of the 100/1000 stating they take checks or money orders will eBay cancel all their listings or just the 10? Would they not be violating policy 10 times or would eBay view it as a one time violation? Would the same situation apply to say eBay employee's who state in some listings they are employees but not so in others?

First, read the entire Link Payments Policy before determining if a listing is in violation. Pay close attention to the category in which the listing is placed and the list of categories that are exempt from the policy.

If some of a seller’s listings are found to be in violation, then only those listings that are in violation will be removed (unless the violation is a repeat violation of the same policy in which case we may, at our discretion, end all of the seller’s listings). The policy and its application applies to all sellers, including eBay Employees.





Posted by allure144 on May 31, 2009 9:16 PM

Negative Feedback For Item Not Received

Although ebay's "policy" in general advises buyers that sellers are not responsible for items lost or damaged by the USPS why is it that ebay allows buyers to leave negative feedback for a seller solely based on the fact that the USPS lost their item and will not remove feedback based solely on that issue. Ebay claims they will remove negative feedback if it is a "policy" issue and I do believe this qualifies as such.

In this particular situation, shipping insurance was offered - but not accepted by the buyer. On each occassion when the buyer inquired about the status of their item - We provided proof that the item was shipped the same day that payment was received, provided the tracking number, tracked the item ourselves and provided a copy of the status report, along with complete instructions & tracking information to enable them to track their package and to file a claim with the USPS. We also provided them with the links to information regarding paypal's buyer's protection. The buyer has not exercised any option of filing a claim with USPS or paypal.


Is there anything that can be done to remove this negative feedback and...why would ebay allow a buyer to leave feedback on that basis. Ebay should do more to protect their sellers from this type of "harrassment" feedback.

You are correct. We don’t block a paying buyer from leaving negative feedback for an item that they did not receive, regardless of the reason. However, this was not “harassment feedback.”

A seller in your situation can (and should) take steps to reduce the likelihood of receiving a negative in case of item lost in transit. Based on the details provided above, I think I can see the reason for the negative: Instead of offering the buyer a refund, you were requiring them to file an insurance claim. Consider the situation from their perspective. Not only are they most likely not going to receive the item that they, in good faith, paid you to deliver, but you, the seller, are making them jump through hoops filing an insurance claim (which might not even be possible since the person who purchased the insurance and sent the item is the only person who can initiate the USPS claim). When they made their purchase, they did not purchase the possibility of having to work to get their money back. You are making them work for a refund. How would you feel in their position?

My advice would have been to issue a refund directly to the buyer and for you, the seller, to pursue the insurance claim with USPS for “lost in transit.”

Feedback left is not removable by eBay unless it meets the criteria set on the site in the Feedback Removal Policy. Nothing shown so far would indicate that this negative feedback qualifies. Your only course at this point would be to follow my advice and offer the buyer a full refund. After giving the refund, then you might ask the buyer to consider feedback revision by following the steps in the Requesting Feedback Revision Help pages.








Posted by celtictwo on Jun 1, 2009 12:08 AM

Incorrect PayPal Information

Griff;
On my buying account I purchased 3 items from a seller in mid April. To make a long story short, in the end I was forced to start an INR dispute with PayPal. Because of a conflict in my schedule and the hours of operation for eBay/PayPal, I used the online process to start the INR process and eventually upgrade to a claim. The seller responded within hours to the claim by supplying a DC number. I used the online process to advise PayPal to continue with the claim.

After almost 3 weeks of seeing "being investigated by PayPal" on the claim status, I called the phone number for the "new dispute process" to inquire about the refund status. PayPal had the DC number which clearly showed the package being not delivered, though mailed 6 weeks prior from 2 states away.

The rep I talked to handled the claim, but also told me if a buyer used the online process for a dispute instead of the new phone process it would take at least 30 days to work the case. Is this true or did this particular rep give me bad advice? As I previously stated, it is very inconvenient for me to phone because of our respective working hours.

The rep gave you incorrect advice and information (and has been coached). The new resolution process (phone or email) was designed to facilitate a claim as quickly as possible. It won’t be instant in all cases, but most transactions will be resolved within a few days, and if it’s longer than that it will be at the buyer’s discretion, when the buyer is trying to work out a solution with the seller. In all cases, the seller can call us back on an 800 number and tell us they’re ready for a direct refund from eBay.

That said, we also have set up the system so that if there’s a willing buyer and seller, we will encourage the two to work together—we understand that in many cases, the buyer just wants their item (and the seller just wants to deliver it).






Posted by crlrmr78 on Jun 1, 2009 1:11 AM

Bid Shielding

Hi Griff,
Although I'm not making much money on ebay lately, I feel that in general, I've been a successful small seller without any major problems. I did however, come to discover that I may have been a victim of bid shielding, a term I've never heard of until I came to seller central to ask about it. 2 members bid on the same item until it reached a very high amount. A request to cancel the high bid came in the final hour. I cancelled it and the item sold to the second bidder for just a few dollars. I tried every which way to find out if these two buyers did this before, but that high bidder had private feedback which made it impossible to trace anything. Because of this, I want to be able to block bidders with private feedback. Why can't sellers do that if they choose? Why are sellers left in the dark about buyers' reputations? With all their perfect feedback, we have no red flags...nothing to help us. We are taking all the risk these days.

If you suspect that you have been the target of a bid shielding scheme, report it immediately to eBay using the options on this page. Trust and Safety will investigate and take action as warranted. As for blocking bidders with private feedback, I have requested this be considered as an additional Buyer Requirement.




Posted by westvirginiaborn on Jun 1, 2009 4:22 AM

Streamling UPI

Good Morning. Ebay took a couple months to implement a paypal only policy.

There are currently five accepted payment methods, four of which are not PayPal.

Why are they dragging their feet or refusing to edit the duration of an Unpaid Item dispute? 15 days to wait for a payment is utter nonsense. I don't want to close it early for fear of retaliatory negative feedback from the buyer which is much too common now.

As I have reported here in previous responses, the UPI process is currently under redesign. One of the improvements will be a shortening of the time necessary to complete a UPI report. However, for the current system set up, if it is clear that a buyer is not going to pay for an item and is not providing a legitimate reason for doing so, the seller should close the dispute. If a feedback is left, they can ask for it to be considered for removal.





Posted by bikerhal on Jun 1, 2009 7:43 AM

Choice Listings Continued

Griff:
Below is part of your response to a question I had on choice listings

“However, with the lot of Disney VHS tapes of different titles, they could not be offered as “choice” since once a buyer purchased one of the tapes, the seller could not offer that same tape to a future buyer from that listing. Thus, the seller cannot offer the same choice for all buyers.

To me, this response implies that if the seller had at least two of each title, then he could use the choice listing option. Is that correct?

It would depend on the original quantity provided in the listing. If the seller had two of each tape, they could list the lot of tapes but only with a quantity of two available for the entire listing. If they listed it with a higher quantity available, say, three, and a buyer bought two of one title, then they quantity available would be one but one of the titles would no longer be available (the one that the first buyer bought). This would make it impossible for the seller to provide the same choices to the second buyer as he provided to the first buyer.

Along the same lines, if a seller was offering t-shirts of different colors, say, then as soon as his inventory was reduced to one (or zero) shirt(s) of a particular color, he theoretically would have to cancel the listing. Is that correct?

Not quite. As soon as the seller’s inventory of one of the color choices was one less than the available quantity provided in the listing, the seller would have to end the listing. Rule of thumb: the listing is not in compliance unless the next buyer has the same purchase options as the previous buyer. If a seller lists a selection of t shirts with four different colors and the seller has 10 of each color, then the seller can only state a maximum quantity available of 10. Once the first buyer purchases a t shirt, the available quantity decreases to 9 available but the seller can still fulfill any possible second order (a second buyer could order up to nine t shirts of any combination of colors including nine of one color and the seller could fulfill the order.) Since the quantity available decrements for every subsequent purchase, the seller can still fulfill future purchases successfully until the quantity available reaches zero.

The rule: For a choice FP listing, list a quantity available of no more than actual quantity available for one of the provided choices.




Posted by dorothysew on Jun 1, 2009 8:07 AM

Change in Original Announcement Regarding Stores Categories in New View Item Page
"At the top of eBay's priorities for 2009: Reaffirm and strengthen our partnership with sellers. We're committed to keeping ebay the best, most profitable platform for your business. Toward this end, we're taking concrete steps to increase your efficiency, lower your costs and help you succeed"

Thanks for the answer about the listing frame, and the other things that will be added to the new page view in late June or July. However, referencing the above, could you pass on to the powers that be the # of questions you got and obvious consternation that sellers felt considering the above statement? Many of us WANT to believe the above statement; but the lack of communication between what is reality now and what is to be reality really hurt Ebay relationships with their sellers. Someone posted (rightly in my opinion) that Ebay missed a huge opportunity in their rapport with store owners since we were told point blank, no argument that there would be no listing frame (categories/header) in the new view last summer. It was a big issue to store owners.

When someone found the April statement that it was in the new view, there was a lot of confusion since people were seeing the new view without it. The usual “does the right hand know what the left hand is doing”? questions, derision, and distrust about Ebay were expressed on the Stores Board with no answers from any pink. That would have continued without the opportunity to ask you what the situation was. Obviously, you are providing a valuable service to both Ebay and sellers. Thanks.

It just seems like someone “in charge” ought to know about these problems/missed opportunities in light of Ebay’s desire “to strengthen our partnership with sellers.

The original design was for no listing frame for Stores categories. This was a mistake. We heard from many Store sellers and based on their input, decided to redo the redesign to include the category list instead. Prior to making any final announcement, the new frame in the new item page had to be tested (this is what some sellers were seeing in April).

Although the road to the change in the decision might not have been smooth (this was prior to our completely changing this year how we announce upcoming changes) we hope that it at least resulted in the outcome that a majority of Store owners wanted.





Posted by inmyparentsbasement on Jun 1, 2009 8:19 AM

eBay Photo Question

Griff,

I might not have been clear about my picture question in regards to the new listing formats but after talking to 13 people (literally) at ebay I got to the bottom of it. With the new listing pages all pictures uploaded from a local drive to the Ebay SYI form are uploaded at a 500 x 375 pixel format. Blackthorne uploads everything at a 400 x 300 pixel format. There is currently no fix for this problem in Blackthorne. The Blackthorne people are hoping this will be fixed in the late July release of Blackthorne.

Thanks for that information!

My new question is why was this so hard to find out. I had people describe supersize picture pack options. I had people tell me Blackthorne doesn't change anything. I had people tell me I didn't know how to look at properties of a picture and I was only uploaded 400 x 300 pixel pics. The guy who finally realized there was a difference between SYI form and Blackthorne uploads didn't believe me, but then he finds out its a known issue they are trying to address. Why wouldn't there be a simple memo so I could have gotten an answer on this?

Obviously, there wasn’t a memo available. We apologize that this bit of information was not picked up internally earlier (the discrepancy between uploads in Blackthorne and the SYI form).
Another question if I pay my fees to Ebay for Blackthorne and yet everyone I talk to refers to it as a third party software in which there is no support. Why did ebay buy this software if everyone acts like it doesn't exist.

I don’t have an answer. I have forwarded your question to both our tools team and our Certified Providers team for information.





Posted by joesbullionshop on Jun 1, 2009 9:31 AM

Extending Free Shipping Discounts for PowerSellers

Do you have any idea if Ebay will extend their Double Powersellers Fee Discount for Free Shipping beyond June 30th? And also the free subtitles for free shipping?

The word back from the team in charge of this particular promotion is that they are not ready to announce the future of the discount promotions for Free Shipping and Subtitles at this time but will do so in the near future.




Posted by buyalot! On Jun 1, 2009 9:35 AM

Large (and Small) Flat Rate Box Postage Availablity
Griff,

I've heard conflicting reports of the status of Large Flat Rate Box on PayPal.

Anar posted right after the announcement on 4/15 that "Small and Large flat rate box support will not be added in PayPal labels."

On a more recent eBay Radio, Jason Miner said the Large Flat Rate Boxes would appear at PayPal the same time they appear at eBay. Jason's answer makes more sense, since it seems like both label solutions would use the same backend, but I've learned over the years that it is a mistake to expect anything good to come from eBay or PayPal.

Could you ask around and verify who is correct here?

It's very important that I have Large Flat Rate Box at PayPal, so I can use Multi-Order Shipping and ship these boxes for off eBay purchases.

I asked Rich Matsuura and his is the final and accurate word: The small and large flat rate boxes will be, at least initially available only through the upcoming eBay Print Label feature, not PayPal. PayPal may add them in the future but, according to Rich, they won’t have them available at the same time eBay launches label printing.





Posted by unknown-shopper on Jun 1, 2009 10:08 AM

Download File Exchange

Why can we not download the content of our descriptions using File Exchange? We can upload but cannot download - makes no sense and creates issues.

I forwarded your suggestion for download ability for File Exchange to the team responsible for managing the product. Cannot promise it will result in a change to the product. (there may not be enough demand to warrant the additional feature).




I'll post response posts in the next few days and I will reopen the thread once we get everything caught up. I am on the road this week (John D. and I are meeting with a group of small sellers) and have spotty access to the World Wide Intraweb. Thanks for your patience.

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Posted by mpompadour on Jun 1, 2009 10:49 AM

Paging Back Issue

Hi Griff, Thanks for taking time to answer questions. Here is my issue: When scrolling throught listings and I see an item I am interested in, I click onto the listing, read to see if I am interested in bidding, etc. When I hit the back button instead of it taking me back to where I left off on the current page, it takes me all the way back to the top of that page. I never had that happen with the old listing pages. Is there a fix in the works for this? Its not a huge issue, but it is rather aggrivating to try to find where I left off looking. Thanks!

This is a common symptom of a browser with either a full cache (unable to store new pages) or a corrupt browser cached page. In normal operation, when you click to a new page, the old page and your position on it are saved in the browser’s cache folder. When you click the “Back” button, the browser serves up the previous page scrolled to your location on the page. Most browser caches use a “first in, last out” method of storing pages so if your inventory of past pages exceeds the capacity of the cache folder, the oldest pages are automatically deleted as new ones are added. However, i the browser cannot store the first page when you click to the second page (because the cache folder is full or corrupt and not deleting oldest pages to make room), then the browser looses your place on the previous page and has to serve up a new page scrolled to the top of that page.

The solution is to empty your browser’s cache folder of saved pages. For IE, go to Tools > Internet Options and click the Delete button for Temporary Files (or Browsing History on newer IE versions). Follow the instructions from there for deleting Temporary Internet Files. For FireFox, click Tools > Options and then the Advanced tab. Select the Network tab and click the Clear Now button.





Posted by lindaspostcardsandmore on Jun 1, 2009 11:29 AM

White Space in View Item Page

Why does ebay insist on making changes that destroy the look of our pages and then not even let us see what others see?

I'm getting multiple reports about my page having so much white space on it that the description is invisible.

I have been seeing the "old new page" for months now. I know that is not final because the left hand category bar does not show. But, the page looks perfect in what I see whether I am signed on or off of ebay.

How can I fix a page I can't see? And, how can you charge me fees when many of my customers are seeing a total mess?

Don’t panic. Your customers are not seeing a total mess. They are however seeing the information you provide placed below your Store category list in the old View Item page.




The category list and your description are rendering correctly in the New View Item Page


The reason for your description showing up under the Stores category list is due to the fact that your description is inside a template created in an HTML Table and the template description starts with a TR tag. Although the old View Item page is days from retirement (all buyers will see the new View Item page in mid June), I forwarded the anomaly to the product team in charge for their attention. Although the product developers don’t promise me it will work, they suggest editing out that specific first tag. This may not be a good solution if you have a lot of listings to edit especially since the New View Item page will be default in a week or so.

If the product team can create a quick and temporary fix for the next week or so, they will do so. In the meantime, those buyers still in the old View Item pool (a shrinking number as more are moved into the New View pool) will have to scroll down to the bottom of the category list to view the top of your description.





Posted by the-cash-man on Jun 1, 2009 11:39 AM

Should Feedback Be Allowed for Carrier Loss of Item?

Griff, lets say you ship an item out. The item is delivered according to the USPS.com tracking #; The buyer claims he never got it and files a dispute. You win the dispute. Should the buyer then be aloud to leave negative feedback?

Good question. I don’t have a hard and fast opinion. I don’t see any obvious reason for not blocking feedback in this scenario (as long as it is backed by verifiable tracking or DC) and perhaps it is a possible enhancement to the existing feedback system in the future. I say “perhaps” because my initial take might be missing something… like another possible reason for leaving negative beyond the buyer not receiving the item. I will bring it up again with Brian Burke and co when I see him (them) next week.

On a side note, I ran into Brian in the eBay Café last week and we had a long conversation about the in process redesigns for reputation and UPI processes. I asked if he would come on the show so we could continue our conversation in a public forum (yes, it was that interesting) and agreed. Look for him as a guest on eBay Radio in July for an entire hour.





Posted by hawgryders on Jun 1, 2009 12:02 PM

New View Item Page as Default



I see the old page most of the time except when I see the new page except when I see what appears to be a hybrid of old/new except when I see a page that falls off the edges of my screen except ... (I think you get my drift)

[When are your programmers going to get the final iteration of the new & improved page done so it becomes default ?]

Mid June




Posted by duds14 on Jun 1, 2009 12:09 PM

Enhancing Buyer Requirements

Hi Griff-
As I have been told by people in your seller "support" department ny ebay account is my business and it is a statement that I agree with.

That having been said I would love to know why since each seller is our own respective business why each of us can't set the buyer requirements to our liking and can only use the parameters that ebay sets for us to use which even setting each requirement as the highest level does not provide a significant service to the seller?

Setting workable levels and types for Buyer Requirements is a balancing act. We want to provide control to the seller to limit the type of buyer that can bid on or purchase their items but we don’t want to make it possible for sellers to block too many otherwise perfectly good buyers. That’s why we don’t automatically provide a wider range of options for blocking buyers (or allow seller to set custom levels). For example, many sellers if they could, would immediately block buyers with zero feedback. Any marketplace, eBay included, depends on new customers. If a new buyer were to find his ability to buy on eBay severely limited or restricted on the basis of his “newness,” that buyer would most likely leave and not return.

That is not to say we will not continue to refine and enhance the available Buyer Requirements and levels. We made some major additions last year and I continue to push for others (Block Buyers with Private Feedback and Block Buyers with x number of reports of UPI, Feedback Abuse, etc) These allow for blocks based on solid past activity of the buyer and not on the presumption of intent of a new buyer. But the chances of opening Buyer Requirements to allow for a very wide range of seller customized options and levels is extremely unlikely given the delicate balance required.





Posted by hightides_beach_shop on Jun 1, 2009 12:26 PM

More On eBay Refunding Buyers in No Fault Disputes

you mentioned eBay is refunding buyers at times with no consequences to sellers. I have to say this practice makes no sense to me at all. If the refund is not justified such that the seller has to refund (for clearly justifiable reasons only), then why encourage a buyer to continue by giving them a refund at all AND keep the item.

Frankly, I am puzzled by this. Even though it may not effect the seller... it will effect the sellers as a whole at some point.

No, it won’t. For no-fault situations where we refund the buyer out of our pocket, it will have no effect on the seller, either immediately or in the future.

Griff, this will effect the sellers wouldn't it?
Stores lose millions a year on shop lifting.
Invest millions to prevent it.
This is a major problem.

You are assuming rampant buyer fraud. We aren’t. However, we are not planning on rewarding buyers who may be abusing the system.

There are cases where a refund is the right thing to do. For example, seller ships item, item is lost in transit. Not the seller’s fault but more importantly, not the buyer’s fault. Rather than put the onus on the seller to refund (and be out the item and the money) or on the buyer to wait for the insurance claim to process, we will reserve the right to refund the buyer immediately out of our pocket in the interest in keeping that buyer (who I remind you was a paying buyer) on eBay shopping and spending and in the interest of not making the seller suffer a loss for an issue that was not within his or her control. Happy seller. Happy buyer.


It's now even easier to shop lift through Ebay.
What will Ebay do to prevent this and protect us?


Yes, this will eventually affect sellers. It has to.
If Ebay pays out of pocket those shop lifters, after time, all that paying will come back to us in much higher fees to compensate.
Wouldn't it be better for Ebay to invest in prevention now and if so, how does Ebay plan to do this?
It can't go on like it is now.
Getting new accounts is a snap so banning them under one ID isn't the solution.
IMO, Ebay is inviting those shop lifters in.
This in turn will eventually end Ebay.

As I stated in the paragraph above, we aren’t protecting shoplifters. We will reserve the right to provide a buyer with a refund when we believe it is appropriate and the right thing to do.

I am puzzled by your insistence that this is not the right thing or even a good thing for us to do. You are assuming that we will be rewarding buyers for committing fraud. That is not the case. We will not be refunding buyers who are attempting to abuse the system. However, there are many potential circumstances where a transaction goes wrong and it is the not the fault of either the buyer or the seller. In those cases, we will reserve the right to do the right thing for the entire marketplace and refund buyers out of our pocket. Not yours, ours. This is a standard business practice of all good businesses. I regret if a seller cannot see the obvious good reasons for our applying this business practice.






Posted by the-cash-man on Jun 1, 2009 12:52 PM

Seller Protection and Buyer Refunds

I had one more question that I forgot to ask as a follow up.

What happens if I ship the item and the tracking shows it's delivered and the buyer says they never got it. I'm going to assume that I'm covered under Paypal's seller protection.

If you have made sure the transaction is eligible for Seller Protection, then the answer is “yes.”

Does eBay refund the buyer anyway out of eBay's pocket, so that way I get to keep my money as the tracking shows the item is delivered and the buyer gets a refund out of eBay's pocket?

That is a possible outcome and a likely outcome in situations where the seller has a good past history, has used tracking and the buyer has no previous pattern of claiming non delivery. In those cases, we may refund the buyer out of our pocket with no consequence to the seller.






Posted by unknown-shopper on Jun 1, 2009 1:42 PM

Character Sets

Maybe she uses Linux OS or a Mac??

Character sets have nothing to do with operating systems and everything to do with the language the keyboard/computer was setup to use. I use linux - you can read my text, I hope. It's plain English in unicode. You use English in (probably) Windows-1252. Your CSRs computer was not setup to use Windows-1252 and you don't have any other character sets installed so your computer cannot interpret the stuff right so it showed it to you wrong.

What unknown-shopper said (Thanks!)




Posted by ted_200 on Jun 1, 2009 2:24 PM

Replica Coins Policy and Categories: An Update
Hi Griff,

Regarding our on-going attempt to REQUIRE Replica coin listings to be listed in only the appropriate categories, I found the following in relation to the April announcements...

"Coins & Paper Money

Replicas & Reproductions: we're placing categories for non-original coins and paper money in more prominent locations throughout this section. Please visit the Selling Currency policy page for more information about selling coins and paper money on eBay.
> Note to sellers: non-original coins and bills should not be listed in the regular denomination categories. "

Here is the link: Link

So, is this a policy change? Is that statement a requirement? Or, is it only a suggestion?

There is no mention of this anywhere else, including in the Coin Selling Policy. Until it is made part of the POLICY, it is useless.

How are we coming along on getting the actual policy revised?

The policy team is working on the final draft of the policy regarding the listing of replica coins (pending the all-important legal review) and it should be in place within the month.

As a side note, the Code of Conduct For Selling Coins and Paper Money link has led to a blank page for weeks now. What's up with this? Is there no longer any Code of Conduct?

I am not absolutely certain but I believe it was taken offline temporarily as the new policy is under construction. To be safe, I have alerted the team about the blank page.

Thanks, and feel free to have anyone from the "team" in charge of this policy contact me if they are having any issues figuring out what exactly we're talking about here.

Will do. I know this is an sensitive issue for sellers of non replica coins and we are eager to provide an ultimate workable solution.






Posted by buriedbybooks on Jun 1, 2009 3:39 PM

Local Pickup and Accepted Payment Policy

Griff,

You still have not answered this question posed to you last time:

Why does eBay require sellers to offer an electronic payment option on a pickup only item if the seller does not have to accept that payment method?


I'm not talking about something that can be shipped AND picked up. I'm talking about a pickup only item--no shipping. Sellers are required to offer an electronic payment method for those items.


And why would buyers who see a listing that shows Paypal as an option contact a seller for 'pay on pickup' when their preferred method is clearly offered in the listing?

Your interpretation of this policy still makes no sense to me.

Buyers will be increasingly disappointed to know that sellers listing pickup only items are only putting that Paypal option on there to appease an eBay requirement and won't allow them to pay via the method they thought was offered.

This 'implied' meaning isn't clear to me--and I'm used to the convoluted and grammatically challenged way eBay communicates.

To me (and to most people), that 'Please contact me for Pay on Pickup payment options' indicates additional payment options. Not some hidden way to tell the buyer that the advertised payment method isn't really a valid one.

Either an electronic payment method is required or it's not. Buyers and sellers shouldn't be dealing in hidden meanings and implied policy.

If only it was that easy. Unfortunately, it isn’t. Consider. Regardless of the option for local pickup only, all eBay listings are given at the very least, national exposure. And Local Pickup Only does not preclude the option for the buyer to have a third party carrier or company come to pick the item up for shipping to the buyer. So, since PayPal will not cover a seller for items picked up locally by the buyer and since a “local pickup only” item is not precluded from shipping should the buyer request or arrange shipping and the seller, we will continue to require that the seller on eBay provide one accepted payment option, even for Local Pickup Only. For instances where a buyer insists on paying with PayPal for local pickup against the seller’s wishes, we will back the seller in any resulting dispute.

We have provided some exemptions to this policy based on certain categories (items that are normally shipped by freight if at all). We may expand this list in the future. We may also find workable ways to simply the existing policy. Buriedbybooks, as you know I have stated previously that this is obviously not the most elegant of solutions and if it were my choice to make, I would probably eliminate the ability to list an item on eBay.com with Local Pickup Only (and move that option to a new classified format which is where Local Pickup Only really belongs. This is a very real possibility in the future) In my opinion, that would be the best solution. Asking a seller to state “contact me for local pickup only payment instructions” is definitely not an ideal solution as well. I acknowledge that this inelegant solution does have loopholes when it comes to seller protection. That’s why we will back up a seller who lists Local Pickup Only and ends up with a buyer who insists on using electronic payments for a local pick up. But for the reasons stated above, the current policy is and will remain, in place until there is a better solution.







Posted by nkyphotos on Jun 1, 2009 3:59 PM

Listing Start Time and Date in Selling Manager Pro

Ebay is removing the listing date "auction items" from the item itself. Store format items never had it.

Currently this information is available in MY EBAY in the sold section but if MY EBAY becomes Selling Manager how is a seller to obtain this information. I currently use Selling Manager Pro and the listing date is not available there.

I do not know about anyone else but I have used this information for inventory control on auction items. I am trying to figure out a system that is error proof but I have not been able to find one yet to replace the listing date which is disappearing.


I forwarded your post as a suggestion for a future addition to Selling Manager Pro. Although all sellers will be provided Selling Manager for free, I am pretty certain (I will double check) that Basic Selling view will still be available to all sellers as an option.

For example, one away to find this information now if you are using SMP is to change temporarily to Basic Selling view. Go to the Selling Manager Pro page and look on the left hand side of that page. There is a long column with links. Scroll all the way down to the Seller Tools section. Inside this section, there is a link for “View My eBay Selling (back to basics).” Clicking this link shows the Basic Selling View where a seller can still locate the Listing Start Time and Date. If you click the My eBay link on the top of the page, the Selling view will default back to Selling Manager.

Another option is to change your Notification Preferences in My eBay, specifically, set the option for receiving listing confirmation emails to “Yes.” Then have these emails automatically routed in your email application to a dedicated folder. The emails contain the item title in the subject and are sortable in an email folder by date received (which is usually the same as the date listed. They go out immediately after the listing is submitted live to the site.)






Posted by king-collect on Jun 1, 2009 5:59 PM

New Page View Questions

Howdy, Griff!

When I look at my own listings in the new page view,

* I cannot see any indication when the item has a question from a prospective buyer, nor any link to the question, nor any link to the feedback page of the person asking the question.

Although many missing functionalities will be returned to the top of the New View Item page in early July, I am afraid the indication that a seller has a question will not be. In place of this feature, sellers should rely on My eBay (which indicates new messages or alerts) and My Messages for any new communications from prospective and existing customers.

* I cannot see if a sold item has been paid with Paypal, or marked as shipped, or even who purchased the item, nor the feedback page of the buyer.

Some of this information will be returned to the top of the page in mid July. All of this information is currently available in the My eBay > Selling > Sold page.

* The Best Match bot seems to think I am wildly interested in buying my own item, so if I do look at one of my listings, it suggests a dozen or so identical items to the one I am selling or just sold.

This “merchandising” feature is separate from Best Match. It displays items that match those that you have recently viewed. Although not always perfect, it is getting better. I remember several months ago when I was searching for CDs by Bill Evans, the feature was showing me listings for currency (“bills”). It’s grown “smarter” since then. Now when I search for Bill Evans, the merchandise window shows other Bill Evans related items. The feature is intended to spur a buyer into more purchase and it does work.

Is there a rationale for removing any reference to my buyers in the listing? Even so that I myself cannot see it? When someone asks a question about one of my items, I almost always go directly to the listing, so I can see what they're talking about.

I would find it useful if this sort of information was still available from the listing itself. If you could pass that along to someone, I'd appreciate it. THANKS!

I have forwarded your request/suggestions regarding the inclusion of buyers and winning bidders on the New Item Page to the product team working on New View Item for their consideration.






Posted by ck_yaoguo on Jun 1, 2009 7:11 PM

PowerSeller Discount

Hi Griff,

I have a few issues here. I am a bronze powerseller from Singapore. I have not received my powerseller discount automatically credited into my account for 2 consecutive quarters now. I asked this question in March but eventually I still have to go through countless sessions with Live Help, before I get to know this guy named George, who is in charged of overseas powerseller discount. Immediately, he credited my discount to me. But this time round, same problem, but situation worsen. Live Help don't seems to be working, I don't know whose problem this is, the rep can't seems to see what I type, as a result, I can't ask anything.

Then I tried emailing. I have waited for more than 120 hours, as I am typing now, but there is still no answers. Didn't eBay promised a reply within 24-36 hours or 72 at max? The funny thing is, I received 3 separate acknowledgement emails for this email sent. The 1st came immediately after sending, the 2nd 13 hours later, the 3rd another 13 hours. Will I ever get a reply? And I am not supposed to send another email on the same issue, so what should I do then?

Griff, can you help me located George and help me get my well-discount discount?

I forwarded your request to PowerSeller support.

I would like to remind all sellers that if you have a personal account issue, it is best to email it directly to me so I can assist in a more timely manner than this thread allows (responses can take several days to post). You can email them to me at griff@ebay.com using your regular email (not My Messages). Thanks.


And the other thing here, the Live Help reps are very under-trained, I mentioned to them that I did not get my powerseller discount, and every single one told me and showed me a link that the discount is only for US, UK and Canada sellers! I have to dig up the link and show to the rep every time I go to Live Help. I don't know if the situation have improved since then, because I can't even ask a question now.

Next issue. I had 3 fixed-price store listings removed, because they were accused of circumventing eBay fees, choice listing being the reason. I will like to use a question asked by another user, bikerhal, in May, and your answer, as an example to illustrate my question.

The question, What if the shirts are identical except for the sports team name on the front?

Your answer, If the seller can provide the choice of “sport team name” for all possible buyers in that listing (along with the other choices offered, like size, color, fabric type, etc). then it would be allowable.

You further reiterate that, Use this rule of thumb: In a Fixed Price Multiple Quantity listing, the seller can offer a range of configurations only if the choice of configurations is available to all buyers and not limited or reduced once a buyer has made a choice.

I am doing rubber stamps, but the situation is exactly the same. I offered 22 designs of teacher's stamps, and I am capable of any configurations to the buyers, and not limited or reduced once a buyer made a choice. My store listings fullfilled all these conditions, but were still removed. The listings removed were 260298147942, 370061629580 and 260271154126. I am not sure if you can still see those listings, I believed probably not, because eBay will not leave any evidences that they made a mistake.

The problem here, is not that the sellers do not know about what they can or cannot do in a choice listing, but the eBay staff who are handling complaints! Their interpretation of the policies are always limited to the first line of text only, whenever they see choice listing, removed, end of story. And the seller do not even have a chance to explain or dispute the situation, even if the eBay staff is wrong.

Does eBay have a solution for this? And how can my listings be restored?

Email the details to me at griff@ebay.com Using your regular email program, not My Messages, and I will forward it to Trust and Safety for a response.




Posted by modelmax on Jun 1, 2009 7:12 PM

Quantity Available

Hi Griff,
Please answer me this. I just listed multiples for thirty days but I don't see the "quantity available" anywhere in the listing. It used to be that way. How will people know how many I have for sale in case they want more than one? Is this another change for the worse?

Actually, it is a change for the better. If a Multiple Quantity Fixed Price listing has more than 10 units available, the Quantity listed on the View Item Page will state “More than 10 available.” When the buyer clicks on the Buy It Now button, the actual number available is displayed on the next page. We discovered that showing a high number of available quantity on the listing page itself was discouraging some buyers from purchasing. Consider: If a seller has 150 items available, it tends to reduce the urgency to purchase on the part of the buyer who thinks, “Why buy now? There are certainly enough available. I will check back later.” By indicating “More than 10” instead of the actual number, the buyer is more likely to click on the Buy It Now button to purchase.




Posted by lucky_rare_finds on Jun 1, 2009 8:38 PM

Seller Relief

Hi Griff.

With the bad economy, slow traffic, and decreasing sale through rates does Ebay have any plans to give sellers any relief? I have been selling for 10 years and my Ebay fees are now much higher than my profits. If Ebay could give some help to its sellers and create some excitement with a TV marketing plan to drive some traffic to the sight it would be well received by most sellers.

You may have noticed several consecutive pricing promotions with low insertion fees and the upcoming consumer pricing (first five listings each 30 days have no insertion fees). It is no secret that the goal is to continue to reduce the upfront fees for listing on eBay and movement in this direction will continue.

There are no immediate plans for media marketing at least until the holidays. Our strategic decision was to put marketing dollars in loyalty programs (eBay Bucks, Cashback, etc) and so far, this strategy is working.






Posted by di25535 on Jun 1, 2009 9:15 PM

Information Now in My eBay

Along with King-collects comments
- no information about any offers in is available

That information is available now in My eBay.

-the shipping calculator is frozen on my zip for sold items - so I can't review what the buyer was charged by eBay. (ebay sends those verdammt notices and I don't know what they're charging the buyer for shipping because all I can see is what it would cost to ship the item to me)

That information is also available in My eBay.

-the hit counter -( for what its worth) it down at the bottom of the page - requiring me to scroll down to see it - it used to be on the seller's summary header - which apparently was too useful to survive.

The hit counter has always been directly under the item description (it was never in the top portion of the page

-If I don't clear cache and cookies about 6-7 times a day the item description page has several pages of white to reach the bottom, where the item counter is. Is eBay reserving that for ads?

Absolutely not. There are various reasons for extra whitespace in some views. For example, in the old view item for a Store seller (where the Store category box is on the top of the description), if the seller’s description is formatted inside a table with an extra TR tag, it causes the description to move down below the category box resulting in extra whitespace to the right of the category box. For New View Item Pages, if a seller has added extra or incorrectly formatted HTML, it can create a lot of unintended white space. Sellers will have to experiment with resetting their existing templates in order to display their text in their descriptions with a minimum of white space.




Posted by dallasreject on Jun 2, 2009 1:21 AM

My World Avatars Issue

When are they going to fix it so we can upload/change My World avatars again?

They are working on it as we speak and hope to have it fixed as soon as possible. Thank you for your patience.





Posted by kalabra on Jun 2, 2009 6:34 AM

Blocking Messages from Blocked Buyers

Since sellers are allowed to have a blocked bidder/buyer list, it seems sellers should also be able to block these same people from sending messages through eBay or posting a question on a particular item currently up for bid.

I am currently being harrassed with messages from a blocked bidder...nothing evil or threatening at this point....just harrassing me for blocking him and he'd really like to bid on a current item, yada-yada-yada. (He seems to have forgotten he gave me two retaliatory negative feedbacks because I filed an UID on him.)

I have no desire to communicate with this person whatsoever, yet I have to put up with receiving messages from him. Even worse and more disruptive, I see that I have a question posted on a particular item - I click to go to the question and voila...it's him ranting about being blocked instead of a legitimate question from a legitimate bidder. It's all quite disruptive and unsettling.

It stands to reason, if a seller has blocked someone from bidding, they probably don't want to get messages from them. And why should a blocked buyer be able to post a message on an item for which he is not allowed to bid? Makes no sense.

Thus, it seems only logical and fair for eBay to give sellers the option of also blocking messages/questions from folks on their BBL.

Good suggestion. I have forwarded it to the appropriate persons for their consideration.




Posted by ck_yaoguo on Jun 2, 2009 8:20 AM

Unacceptable Experience with Singapore Support Reps

Hi Griff,

I had a very bad experience over the phone with eBay Singapore on the 28th of May. The following is a brief illustration of what transpired.

I made phone call to eBay Singapore on the 28th of May around 2-3pm, and had one of the experience of my life regarding customer service.

The girl initially answered told me they are just a regional office and does not have any customer support. I asked her she can get me any form of help as I have exhausted all avenues of contacting eBay (Live Help doesnt work for me, the rep can't never see what I type). She kept insisting other than an email address, there is nothing she can do. Then I asked again, what work does this regional office does? She said she cannot said. I asked to speak to her superior then. That is where the real action starts!

As she was asking for a male colleague to the phone, I can very clearly heard her saying "it's a very rude customer!" Then I shouted over phone, what very rude, I can hear you!

Her male colleague was even worse than her! To keep things short, the highlight of his answers when I asked what the regional office does since there is no customer support? NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS!!! Can you imagine, an eBay staff answers his customer, none of your business? Then he proceed to say he don't have to answer to me because I am not the one paying him!!! I told him I paid eBay fees, and eBay paid you, so I am indirectly paying you, and this is the type of treatment I get! And he even said that whenever there are customers who tried to give them problem at their office, they wont hesitate to call the police. Before long, he said, I can't help you and YOU ARE WASTING MY TIME, I have to hang up. And he slammed the phone down!

Griff, may I know if this is the kind of people we have working for eBay? Asolutely no regards for the customer. If it is, it is no wonder then, our sell through rate is getting lower and lower. This fellow has no idea how he gets his paycheck.

I will like to know if there will be any investigation conducted and any appropriate actions that will be taken for this kind of misbehaviour? Or this type of behaviour is absolutely acceptable and within eBay's protocol?

I apologize that this happened to you. I take CS very seriously and can assure you, your experience was absolutely unacceptable. I forwarded your email to the person heading up support for his attention and he assured me that the appropriate steps have been taken to investigate the occurrence and to insure that it doesn’t happen again.




Posted by bookelph on Jun 2, 2009 8:39 AM

New View Item Page Issues

In your preamble, you wrote:

“New Item Page Information (Note: All the seller-facing links like Relist, Sell Similar, Mark as Shipped, Revise, etc will be added back to the closed and current views of New Item Page in early July. In addition, Store Category list will also be added back to the New Item page around the same time.)”

I am having problems on the NEW ITEM PAGE,
(And yes, I did use the“send us your comments” link on the page to do so, but since there are no replies and no forum to see if glitches are being worked on, the question is asked here)

1st problem is with "PRINT" function.

When I click on the "Print" icon (near right side of page, just under "Item location, etc)
it opens a blank page.

(This WAS working a week or so ago)

Interesting thing though - When I "switch back to the previous version", and try the "Printer version" at the bottom of the page, it also brings up a blank page.

HOWEVER, this seems to be just on the ebay.com pages...
I went to the ebay.ca pages, and both on the new version and the old version, the Print option brings up the pages.
So I am having to switch over to the ebay.ca page to print off the item info for my records.
Tedious. Annoying.

2nd problem with the NEW ITEM PAGE

When I hit the BACK button on my browser, it does not return me to the last page I viewed.
It just stays stuck on that page. Even if I try to go back 2 pages, I can't get back to the page I was previously on. Have to start over.

Big nuisance for me, sure…but I see this as a major problem for buyers - if they are looking at all my items, either on my sellers page or in my store, they will not be able to go back, so I've lost them!

( My browser is IE, and I cleared cache, etc.
maybe I'm the only one having this problem, but if I am, would appreciate help in resolving it in any case)


Will these issues with the New Item page be fixed in July (or sooner) along with all the other things you mentioned?
Does this refernce to JULY mean that Buyers will be seeing the OLD item page till then?

Can there be a post somewhere by the team working on the New item Page to show what glitches are known and are being worked on?

I have forwarded this post to the team working on New View Item for their attention. They are looking into the situation. UPDATE: the team is unable to duplicate your experience with the Print link on the new item page. They asked me to ask you to send the details (including screen shots) to me for forwarding to them. Send them to griff@ebay.com using your regular email (not My Messages).




Posted by postcardsnstuff on Jun 2, 2009 9:41 AM

Blocking Specific Individual Countries

Hi Griff,
Would it be possible to add more choices to the countries which we can ship too. From Canada I can choose only UK,Germany and France in Europe, or all of Europe.
This morning I added a bidder from Netherlands to my exempt list who asked to buy. I wonder how many more I am missing that don't ask to be exempt. After a few lost packages in Spain I had to stop Worldwide shipping (we won't even get into the DSR problem for shipping time).
I would love to be able to ship to
Ireland
Scandinavia(Sweden,Denmark,Norway)
Benelux Countries(Luxembourg,Belgium,Netherlands)
and many, many, many more.
I hear that New Zealand is in the Asia group. How can we tell which countries are included with each continent or grouping.
That said, I think that the more country choices we have, more people will ship internationally. Putting lots of countries under one group is more likely to make me not choose that group because there could be one country in there that I will not ship too.
Thanks for your time and efforts.

It’s in the works (blocking individual countries) and more will be announced in the next Seller Release Announcement in mid July.



Posted by hawgryders on Jun 2, 2009 9:57 AM

eBay’s Excellent Help System

Here is one I would like you to pass on to the programmers ...

When attempting to use the on-board help system I find it to be the most unhelpful one I have ever used

Example - type in free listings - now in a logical world one would expect to see the new eBay feature of Free Listings as the first entry ... instead there are 117 entries with little to no relevance to what is being asked (Now that I think of it this seems to be very familiar to the new search algorithm eBay has instituted)

So the question is ... (and this is dead serious)

[How does your company expect a user to be successful when even the simplest function (help pages) is so inherently unusable and brings up only irrelevant answers ?]

Inherently unusable? Sorry, I strongly disagree. You’ve found a specific example where the phrase used doesn’t bring up a relevant help page. The reason? First, the specific feature has not been released yet, only announced. It does not yet have a Help page entry. Once the special First Five Listings No Insertion Fees feature launches, it will have an entry in the Help pages. Second, this will not necessarily be referred to as “Free Listings” since it is only the Insertion Fees that are waived, not the Final Value Fees, so technically, “free listings” as a descriptor would be inaccurate. However, it might still be included and indexed as a search phrase that will return the relevant page, once that page has been added.

Having said that (and as someone who uses the Help pages continually in the course of a day to double check his answers to most questions, I find that nearly every single one of my queries returns relevant results. However, feel free to provide examples of search strings that you find that do not result in relevant results and I will gladly forward them to the team that manages the Help pages content and navigation.





Posted by lurch-deeann on Jun 2, 2009 11:06 AM

Seller Protection and Resolutions

At the end of the April thread, you stated: "That catches us up. I will open a new thread tomorrow for June"

It actually doesn't completely "catch us up" - I'm still waiting to hear about the SPP being ported to eBay, particularly in relation to the new INR claims process. And within that, specifically, if someone ships outside of their stated handling time, but still within 7 days, will they be covered under SPP in an INR claim, or is SPP changing to require shipping within your stated handling time to qualify for SPP.

Has anyone provided you info on the SPP under eBay? This had to be thought out in advance, right?

Yes it has.

If we have no information from the seller about handling time or seller shipping method (and consequent expected transit time), we will tell the buyer to wait 7 days after payment before filing an INR claim with eBay.

If we do have handling time and shipping method, we will use the sum of handling time, plus expected transit time for the method used by the seller, plus an additional cushion (usually three additional days). So if handling time is 3 days and expected transit time is 7, we’d ask the buyer to wait 13 days after payment. We may adjust the cushion to a longer period in certain instances (such as Media Mail, or cross-border). Note that this system does not specifically enforce that sellers ship within their stated handling time.

Also, as with PayPal seller protection we will require proof of delivery in INR (Item Not Received) cases in order for Seller Protection to apply to that transaction.






Posted by tabbmbcmb on Jun 2, 2009 12:34 PM

New Seller Questions

Ok..I am new to this selling thing and I just have a few questions.

1. What is a second chance offer and how does it work? Can you use that after someone has paid?

Second Chance Offer is a feature that sellers can use to sell an item to any of the underbidders in a closed auction format listing. For example, if the winning buyer backs out, the seller can choose to offer the item, through Second Chance Offer, to the next bidder in line. Or if a seller has more than one of an item, they can offer the extra items to the underbidders. To learn more, click the Help link on the top of the page and type in Second Chance Offer into the Search Help box. Our extremely efficient Help page will bring you links to relevant pages on Second Chance Offer.

2. How do you know what to start a bid out for? Example: Having a wholesale lot of used clothing.

The best way to determine a good starting bid is to research eBay for similar listings and see what other sellers have used for starting bids, especially those that resulted in successful sales. If all else fails, keep in mind that the lower the starting bid, the more likely you are to garner bidder interest (and bids). However, there is always a risk that the item could sell for less than you expect or need to realize for the item.

3. How do you determine the shipping costs? Do you go by weight?

Yes, weight and sometimes, dimensions of the package. You need an inexpensive postal scale. Then you pack the items into the box you will use to ship the item. Weigh the item and the box and measure the box for height, width and depth. Write this information down. When you list the item, you will find a Shipping section on the form into which you can enter the weight and dimensions. You will also select at least one carrier and service (for example, USPS Priority Mail). That’s all you have to do. The costs for shipping are calculated automatically for shoppers prior to purchase by using yours and the buyer’s zip codes. The cost is added automatically to the winning buyer’s total.

I just want to make sure that I am not losing money on this. Some of the items that I thought would go for more went for little. I want to make sure that I am starting the bidding off right instead of under cutting myself. The same thing goes for shipping as well.
I would apperciate any and all suggestions.
Thanks in advance.

You may want to view the information, tips and tutorials in our online education and help pages. Hover your mouse pointer over the Help link in the upper right hand corner of any eBay page and click the link for Learning Center.




Posted by hawgryders on Jun 2, 2009 1:48 PM

A Buyer’s About Me Page Question

There is a thread here on SC that originally started on the Feedback Board about a buyer who has embraced the new eBay attitude ... here is the link to the thread

Link

[Do you think this buyer is justified in his attitude, his threats, and his lack of civility towards other community members ? Is this the type of buyer eBay wants to be identified with ?]

Justified? How would I know? I am not privy to his past experiences with sellers and he doesn’t provide specific examples. It sounds like the buyer has very particular views on his relationship with sellers. If you are asking whether we would take action against this member for his particular attitude or tone, the answer is no. His tone is a bit strident (Typing in ALL CAPS never wins friends or influences people) and his attitude is definitely not one of rosey goodwill towards sellers, but there is nothing in the text to indicate violations of eBay policy or intent to violate eBay policy. I am not absolutely certain what it is you are suggesting eBay do about this buyer (we would do nothing based on his About Me page) but I would be very surprised and alarmed if anyone here were to suggest that we should start to take action against members because of their “attitude.”

And that is all I will say about that.





Posted by hawgryders on Jun 2, 2009 2:02 PM

Griff’s Listings Question

One more for this week ...

I noticed you started putting Immediate Payment Required on your BIN's which, although perfectly acceptable under eBay rules, seems to imply you don't trust your bidders to follow through on the deal in a timely manner

[Did you do this because of NPB's ?]

and

[Do you recommend we do it too ?]

Thank you for this opportunity to promote a fantastic eBay feature called Immediate Payment Required.

I have used Immediate Payment for my Fixed Price listings since the feature was made available several years ago (I most definitely did not just start doing so). I do it because it means I am paid immediately when the buyer buys the item, which is how all ecommerce operates (and how eBay will operate someday in the not so distant future.). And yes, this completely eliminates the UPI problem for fixed price items. I’ve been pretty lucky. I have had only one UPI in the last three years (for an auction item).

And of course I recommend that every seller at least consider using Immediate Payment, especially sellers who are experiencing a regular rate of UPI transactions. As I said, I have been doing so since the feature was launched several years ago. I recommend it hear all the time whenever a seller complains about a high rate of UPI. I recommend it my book. I recommended it in eBay University classes. And I recommend it here.

Thanks again for the opportunity to promote this valuable eBay Feature! You can learn more by using our most excellent Help pages. Click the Help link on the top of any eBay page, enter keywords related to the term or topic of your search (immediate, immediate payment, etc) and click the Search Help button.The most relevant pages will be displayed as links in the returned result list.





Posted by kelnrob71 on Jun 2, 2009 5:34 PM

UPI Buyer

What do you do when a buyer does not pay , won't respond to messages ? I got the members contact info from e-bay to call the person only to discover its a fraudulent phone number and address. After several messages to ebay trying to get an actual customer service person all I get is a automated response that does not solve anything....Any suggestions?

File an Unpaid Item report. You can do so 7 days after the listing closes. You can get to the process through many channels on eBay. For example, you can use our extremely helpful and effective Help pages.

Click the Help link on the upper right hand corner of any eBay page, and enter “unpaid item,” or “non paying buyer,” or “buyer didn’t pay.” Doesn’t matter which one you use. All of them will return relevant links that explain how to file a UPI (Unpaid Item) report with eBay (Yes, eBay Help pages are that good!). In the report, you will also have the opportunity to report the buyer’s inaccurate contact information.





Posted by bookstew on Jun 2, 2009 5:41 PM

A Bug Report

Hi Griff -
Not a question, really - kind of a bug report if you don't mind forwarding it (because I don't have much confidence in the "was this page helpful?" box at the bottom of the pages).

On the Help pages Link the drop-down menus don't work in a FireFox browser any more. I have to open (shudder) IE to read the examples. Here are some screen shots so you can see what I mean:

In Internet Explorer, the arrows are visible, and when I click on them, more information is revealed:

No so in FireFox (yes, I have the latest version). No arrows, and nothing is clickable.

And (I guess I do have a question after all) What is the most efficient way to report bugs or page issues? I know it isn't really a Seller Advocate kind of thing, but you seem to be the closest we can get to the eBay Machine these days.

The issue was addressed and fixed shortly after it started to occur. The drop down menus are now all working in FireFox.





Posted by teddybeartwin on Jun 2, 2009 6:35 PM

Possible Feedback Abuse

Griff why is a buyer's negatives allowed to remain when the neg's were left just two hours after the buyer hit buy it now?

Two different sellers have received neg's from this buyer and both neg's were left within hours of the auction ending.

The sellers are reporting it but are not getting any help from ebay. What can they do?

These may be removable. Send the details directly to me at griff@ebay.com using your regular email (not My Messages). What you are describing sounds like feedback abuse and should be investigated. For anyone interested, I am a proponent of providing all sellers a window of time (one week) before a buyer can leave feedback or ratings.




Posted by emeraldgoddessgarden.. on June 2, 2009 7:07 PM

Checkout and Support for PayPal Merchant Services

Griff:
I am not a frequent poster, but try to lurk and follow the Boards often.
I do have question.

I am curious as to why eBay's Payment Gateway is not supporting Pay Pal's Website Pro Merchant's Service? I enrolled in this back in Jan, with the understanding that it would soon be intergrated for use on eBay..however...6 months (and $180.00 in monthly fees later) it still isn't and I was recently told by Pay Pal CS and eBay live chat that there are no short term plans to make it usable.

I am losing several sales each week to customers that don't want to register with Pay Pal or any other payment service, or give their card numbers out over the phone. They just want to enter their credit card
info directly into the check out as they are accustomed to doing on other sites. I don't understand why eBay seems to be so unwilling to provide this service to buyers when it could easily be routed through Pay Pal via the merchant account program. I have waited for your thread to reopen to ask this question before ending my subscription to the service. I actually like it and it is convenient, but I have other onsite services for my B&M and can't justify the continued fee if I am never going to be able to intergrate into eBay.

I am also unable to figure out what merchant service will work through the eBay Gateway. When I tried to intergrate the one I have for my B&M I was told that the settings within eBay are outdated and unusable. The merchant service rep laughed when I asked about eBay intergration.

Good news. The integration of PayPal's Payflow (Website Payments Pro ) gateway into eBay’s checkout flow will occur in July - exact date in July is still to be determined.





Posted by purchasejlp on Jun 2, 2009 7:37 PM

New Ask Griff Boards

Please take a moment to read through them. Also, you may find an answer to your question there. In addition, read through previous Ask Griff threads. Your question may have been previously asked and answered there.
>

Griff, while this link in your posting works to find your archived 'ask Griff' threads, the archive forum does not appear on the Discussion Boards page anywhere that I can find.

The eBay hosted Discussion Board hub page doesn’t have the link.

The newer Discussion Hub Page that is hosted by Liveworld does.

The older page is about to be retired and the newer page will be the default. In the meantime, use the link in that post to reach the new Ask Griff discussion board area.





Posted by caddlecat1 on Jun 3, 2009 3:09 AM

PayPal Payment Question

Hi
Can I place in the body of my listing to sell an item, that I will only accept paypal if they don't use their credit card to make the payment? Just recently a buyer tried to pay me using credit card through paypal and paypal wanted to charge me 2.4% plus 30c for his priviledge. Had he paid using his savings account through paypal, there'd be no charge to me.

A seller who accepts PayPal payments cannot block or refuse to accept PayPal payments funded with a credit card. And the information about charges is not correct. If you are using a PayPal account to accept payments for sales, then your account must be either a Premium or Business level PayPal account (upgraded from a Personal PayPal account). All payments received to a PayPal Premium or Business level account are charged 2.9% of the payment amount plus .30 regardless of how the payment was funded (credit card, eCheck or PayPal balance).




Posted by buriedbybooks on Jun 3, 2009 9:03 AM

Echecks and Order Details

Griff, the order details screen is not showing the echeck clearing date as the payment date. Instead, it shows the date the payment was originally sent.

For buyers who don't realize (or remember) that echecks can add as much as 2 weeks to CLEARED payment, this could appear as a lengthy delay between payment and shipment!

For example: the echeck I recently received shows this as the payment date:
Paid on May-26-09 via PayPal

Except it didn't clear until late evening on Monday, June 1st.

So now, when looking at the order details screen, this buyer will see a payment date of 5/26 when in reality, cleared payment was not received until 6/1. 6 days later.

The 5/26 date also appears on the top of the item page and in the alt text in My eBay when you hover over the $.

Why isn't the Paypal clearing date being shown? And is there any way to fix this?

Coincidentally, I believe it just was. There was an upgrade to the PayPal Order Detail pages on Wednesday night that includes information on pending payments (echecks). I haven’t received word yet if this upgrade changes the date the buyer sees from date payment made to date payment cleared but once I receive verification either way, I will post it here.




Posted by king-collect on Jun 3, 2009 9:34 AM

Fee Suggestions

Hi Griff!

Would eBay ever consider any of the following tweaks to the fee structure?

* Allowing sellers to choose between a low posting fee with a high FVF, a high posting fee with a low FVF and a medium posting fee with a medium FVF

Possibly.

* Basing a seller's FVF on the total sales for an entire month, rather than each individual listing? So, selling 100 items for $5,000 would have the same FVF as selling 1 item for $5,000?

Maybe.

* Allowing sellers to earn FVF discounts for something beyond high stars and free shipping? For instance, if they have a high sell-thru percentage?

Unlikely.

* Allowing sellers to offer real discounts (not just shipping discounts) for multiple item purchases or repeat buyers? For instance, if you buy 5 items from me and your total purchase is over $100, I could offer 20% off the purchase price, or if you make a purchase from me today, I could offer you 10% off your next purchase from me within the next 30 days.

Very possible. In fact, very likely in the future

* Applying the FVF discount to the next month's sales, so that the discount is predictable? (Alternately, basing the FVF discount on an entire year's worth of DSR's). I see a lot of frustrated sellers tearing their hair out each month because a single dinged star could ruin their discount. Yet, if they knew in advance they were getting a 20% FVF discount, they might post like crazy for the entire month.

Possibly.

Now an explanation around the short answers. This is a topic into which I am loathe to delve too deeply. I am not an expert in this field and it would be extremely inappropriate for me to provide even mild speculation or commentary on a topic as sensitive as pricing. It would also be inappropriate for me to speculate in detail about the suggestions. However, I did copy and forward them to our pricing guru (Brian Hsu) for his consideration.







Posted by postcardsnstuff on Jun 3, 2009 12:03 PM

Blocking Specific Countries

Griff, With reference to post 49, this is the response I got from ebay with the exact same question. The question/suggestion has not been answered. Help!

"Hello,

Thank you for writing to us here at eBay. My name is Jessica and it
would be my pleasure to assist you with your concern.

Looking to your preferences I see that you have a buyer requirement set
up to block buyers which;

"Are registered in countries to which I don't ship"

I can first suggest to remove this if you're willing to allow more then
what you're able to select within the create your item form. Choosing
World Wide is also an option for you to ensure all Countries are
available to for your buyers.

I can understand the slow shipping concern to over seas Members. I found
out that ground shipping can take up to 78 days to arrive to the
recipient. Therefore, as a Seller myself I stopped offering ground
shipping to that area of the world. Members are still able to request
this for me, however they absorb all the risk of slow arrival times and
not being able to file any claims or leave any Feedback. You're free to
post a disclaimer like this to help your sales!

I hope this helps, but if you need further assistance, Live Help is
available 7 days a week from 7:00 AM to 8:00 PM PST. You can join us in
Live Help by clicking on the link below:

Link

Or, please simply reply to this email and Ill be happy to address any
other questions or concerns that you may have as soon as possible.

I appreciate the opportunity to assist you with this information and I
thank you for writing to eBay and wish you continued success in your
future transactions.

Best Regards,

Jessica F. D.
eBay Customer Support Team"

I provided a response (and some good news) regarding this ability in a response above. The ability to block specific countries is on the roadmap and will be part of the next group of seller update announcements scheduled in July. I trust you took up Jessica F.D.’s offer to reply and that you let her know her original response did not address your specific question.




Posted by karl551 on Jun 3, 2009 12:07 PM

Partial Refund Requests

Hi Griff,

I recently had a little problem with a buyer,to make the buyer real happy and receive positive feedback I needed to send them $10.

Their response to my refusal to do so:

Dear karl551,

All I asked for was a $10 refund and than you just offered to reimburse me shipping costs + a full refund. Shipping to your zip code of xxxxx from my zip code is about $12.50. So you are actually going to be paying more.

I don't want to go through the whole return process so all I'm asking for is the original $10 I asked for earlier and than I will leave positive feedback and be happy with my purchase.


The feedback manipulation policy contained in the UA is pretty clear on the subject.

My question is,What is eBays stand on this?

This buyer is pushing the envelope of what is acceptable. To me, it is pretty clear that the buyer, in stating he will leave positive feedback “if,” implies that he will leave negative feedback otherwise.

eBay’s stand on this is that it is a gray area. There could be a legitimate reason for the buyer wanting a partial refund. However, I believe we should make it very clear to all buyers that, although a buyer if free to ask for a partial refund, the seller is obliged only to provide a full refund and only once the original item is sent back to the seller, at the buyer’s expense. This would help educate buyers about a seller’s actual obligations (some buyers believe sellers are obliged to accept their demand of a partial refund. We need to disabuse buyers of this false notion).

Do this. Email the details to me (include all correspondence from the buyer – did he ever supply a reason for wanting the refund?) and in the meantime, report the incident as possible feedback extortion using this Link

I cannot promise that if he leaves the negative, it will be removed but I will work on your behalf to reach a resolution.





That catches up for last week’s questions. As I am on the road this week with only intermittent internet access, I will reopen the thread on Friday for new questions and post responses when I am back next week.


Regards,

Griff
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Re: Ask Griff - June 2009

Jun 10, 2009 5:44 AM
One more... (took a while to get a response)



Posted by carcie on May 31, 2009 3:29 PM

Netherlands and Seller Protection

Griff hi,

I read on the Dutch eBay board that seller protection will become available when using PayPal starting from June, details are yet to follow.

My question to you:
Do you have any knowledge wether this will be valid when selling on the .nl site only or also on the .com ?

Thank you so much for your answer.

Seller Protection will be valid for all sellers, (.nl included) when selling on any eBay site. It is still scheduled to come in June. When it is live, we will let sellers know with an announcement
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Re: Ask Griff - June 2009

Jun 15, 2009 10:53 AM
Hello all,

Back from my road trip. Ask Griff is now open. Please review the posting rules at the top of the thread.

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Jun 17, 2009 11:51 PM
> * Brand New: Item has never been opened or removed from the manufacturer's sealing. Item must be in original shrink wrap.

While we're at it, many BRAND NEW CDs, particularly in Ireland, or from small publishers, are not shrink-wrapped.
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Jun 18, 2009 12:35 AM
Griff;
I have a serious concern about the new search function.

Suppose I am searching for a certain book by keywords within the title and only a few show up in auctions. I am looking for the rarer hardcover edition of the book and only paperbacks are on auction. Let's also suppose that there are 10 items in eBay stores. Because the only books on auction are softcovers, that is the only choice in the Refine Search column on the right side of the page. I can tell that there are a few hardcover editions in stores because the covers are different between the 2 formats and the gallery photos verify this. However, if the covers are the same in both formats, I must physically open every store listing to search for what I want. This can't be good for a buyer, as it's very, very frustrating.

As an extreme example, a few days ago I was searching for one of my own fiction books to compare pricing with others. It honestly took me over 1/2 hour to find it! And I knew it was listed.The primary reason was that the only one on auction was a non-fiction book and once search gets stuck in the non-fiction category, it's almost impossible to get out. I couldn't refine my search to search for hardcovers, 1st editions, of any other logical refinement. If I was a typical buyer I would have given up way before the 1/2 hour it took for me to find a book I knew was listed.

Even though I don't agree, I understand that stores are secondary in search. But, could not the refine search column include a full set of refining options that included ALL ebay items. This could result in more sales that would help eBay and Sellers, and more importantly, a buyer would find what they wanted a lot easier.

BTW- I know that I can tweak the search using the Preference option to Include Store Inventory. But honestly, how many buyers (especially Newbies) would go through the trouble?
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Posted by hawgryders on Jun 15, 2009 11:38 AM

Blocked Buyer List
If a user changes their ID does the BBL [Blocked Bidder List] automatically pick it up and add the new name to the list ?


No, the name on the list does not change (the list is static) but since the old User ID is connected to the new User ID in the member’s ID history, the change of User ID doesn’t override the block (the buyer would still be blocked from bidding/buying).


Are user names from the same IP included when a single entry is added to the BBL ?


I have answered this one in the past. The Blocked Buyer List is static. User Ids are not automatically added based on any criteria (including IP address). They have to be added manually by the seller.




Posted by mygift2u on Jun 15, 2009 11:48 AM

Immediate Payment & Buyer Requirement Questions


I like the idea of immediate payment. Is there a way that shoppers could use that feature from an individual seller and pay for multiple items at one time? Or do that have to make immediate pay on each item separately??


Not currently. However, that functionality is planned for a future enhancement on eBay.


What if I use Immediate Paypment on some items and not all of my items? What happens when a Buyer trys to pay for some that require immediate payment and some that don't at the same time? Do they have to make separate payments?


Also Immediate Payment might work well with items with free shipping but what about items that have shipping costs with "each additional item" costs. Any suggestions? (I don't want to offer free shipping on everything.)


My concern is what if a Buyer wants one of my items with free shipping, which requires Immediate Paypal payment, but also wants to add another item that has DOES have a shipping cost that does not require immediate payment?


Does a seller need to make ALL their items Immediate Paypment for them to be paid for at one time and one payment from the Buyer?


That cannot be done. This is unfortunately, a drawback of the current Immediate Payment feature. It only works for individual items, that is, a buyer has to finish each Immediate Payment transaction (pay for them) separately. They cannot be aggregated into one “shopping cart” that can be completed with one payment.


A somewhat related problem I had last week... in the last 2 days I had two separate sales from separate buyers who did NOT have a U.S. Paypal account but wanted me to ship to someone in the U.S. I do not sell internationally so my Paypal account is set to block buyers with Non-U.S. Paypal accounts for obvious reasons.


I am confused. That is not possible, that is, sellers cannot “block” a buyer on the basis of where their PayPal account is registered. Sellers can block buyers who do not have a PayPal account and sellers can block buyers who are registered in countries to which they do not ship. See Buyer Requirements for more information.


Unfortunately, this blocking DID NOT prevent a buyer from ending the listng from me. (I heard this was happening to some sellers but I thought the glitch had been resolved. It happened to me this week.) All my ebay Preferences are set to NOT accept payments from Buyers in Countries I do not ship.


The Buyer Requirement block for buyer location blocks buyers from bidding or buying if they are registered in a country to which you do not ship However, this block only works if the seller has also indicated to which countries they will ship (or if the seller selects the “no international shipping” option.)


But international sales are still getting through even though I have my eBay Preferences set to NOT allow buyers from countries I do not sell in.


One was sale had a APO/FPO shipping address which should be ok BUT he had a NON US Paypal account! There is no way to block those BEFORE they make the purchase. The other Buyer WAS registered in a foreign country (Brazil) with a Paypal-Brazil account. That one should NOT have been able to end my listing but they did. NOw I am left to try to re-coup my ebay fees even if we mutually agree not to complete the sale.


If you don’t ship internationally, make certain that the option for International Shipping in the SYI form is set to “no international shipping.” Any other setting will allow international buyers to bid on or purchase the item. And then select the appropriate Buyer Requirement. You can set your Buyer Requirements for each item or globally (for all items by default) using the Site Preferences area of My eBay. Go to My eBay > Account > Site Preferenes > Buyer Requirements.



And, by the way, there is no user friendly way to do a Mutual Agreement any more. I had to file an unpaid item request and when it goes to the buyer, even though we have agreed not to complete the sale, ebay starts the dispute process and I cannot get my fees back for at least 7 days now unless the Buyer responds.


I have posted in these threads previously (many times in fact), that the UPI process is about to improved and streamlined. Stay tuned for news in the next Seller Update announcement which will be made in July (for September release).


That is crazy. I should be able to get my fees back immediately. I also fear that one or both of those buyers will leave me Negative feedback because they could not purchase the items. Would that be grounds for feedback removal?


It depends. If your listing states that you do not ship internationally, then yes, it would be grounds for removal. However, you really must follow the instructions above to use Buyer Requirements and the “No International Shipping” option to block international buyers.


Separate question. I use Paypal to ship ebay labels as well as Paypal shipping labels for sales through other venues. Will I still have the capability to print my shipping labels through Paypal?


Yes. PayPal label printing will continue to be available (it is not going away).


Will all ebay shipping labels have to be printed through ebay or can we do an "either or"???


You can use either one or the other.


Posted by buriedbybooks on Jun 15, 2009 12:12 PM

Cross Promotions


Can we PLEASE have cross promotion connections back? For all sellers--not just store owners? More sellers would opt in to the related items and services tab if they knew they could control which sellers appeared there.


I will forward your request to the appropriate person for consideration.


Posted by buriedbybooks on Jun 15, 2009 12:17 PM

MasterCard Promotion Question


Since the new item fpage went live this last week, I've noticed a mini-banner ad promoting eBay mastercard at the bottom of the active listings. It is ABOVE the 'seller assumes all responsibility' disclaimer and is not marked as a 'sponsored' ad or flagged as eBay-provided content.


I can assume based on eBay's pattern of behavior that other, non-eBay advertising is soon to be displayed in that area. Can we please forward the suggestion that the 'seller assumes all responsibility' disclaimer be ABOVE any advertising and closer to the description area?


And can it be made crystal-clear that any ads displayed in that area are provided by eBay and have not been approved by the seller?


I will forward your request to the appropriate person for consideration.




Posted by buriedbybooks on Jun 15, 2009 12:19 PM

PayPal, Payment and Local Pickup


Do the customer service reps AND Trust and Safety know about your interpretation of these policies?


They were not my interpretation of the current policies and their application. They are eBay’s interpretation and yes, T&S reps are acutely aware of them.



Can we be sure that eBay will back a seller in cases where a buyer insists on paying for a Pick Up only item with Paypal in terms of the UID, negative feedback, and any seller non performance reports?
Yes. If this wasn’t the case, I wouldn’t have posted it.




Posted by buriedbybooks on Jun 15, 2009 12:24 PM


ISBN Number Question


While researching a policy question, I stumbled across yet another fine tuning of the search and browse manipulation policy.


Listing an item with product details from our catalog, but then describing a different item in the description. For example, sellers can't use an ISBN to identify a paperback book, but mention in the description that it's an audio book with the same title but different ISBN.


What--exactly--does this mean? For example: a Book Club edition book has the same ISBN as the publisher's edition. But a book club edition is VERY different from a publisher edition in terms of value. This seems to be a very intrusive thing for eBay to be doing.


The policy means that a seller cannot use one ISBN number as a product detail and then indicate a different ISBN number for the item in the item description. The example was for two separate ISBN numbers, one for the print and one for the audio edition. They have separate ISBN numbers. And “value” isn’t the point. The ISBN number is. If a Book Club edition and a Publishers edition share the same ISBN number, then a the seller has nothing about which to worry. They can indicate in their description or custom product details that one item is a Book Club edition and one is a Publishers edition.




Posted by bikerhal on Jun 15, 2009 1:33 PM



Various Sanctions Questions


What is eBay’s policy on removing strikes given to buyers?


It’s posted in the Help pages. You can read it here.


How many strikes can a buyer get before being suspended or NARU’d?



Generally, buyer’s are suspended on the third strike. You can read the policy here.


What are the specific criteria for a seller to be suspended or NARU’d relative to
a) Negative and neutral feedback?
b) PayPal issues (INR, SNAD)?
c) Non-performing seller reports
d) Other reasons- (e.g., VERO violation) please define?
If you can’t answer specifically, why should buyers and sellers not know the specific criteria?


There are no set criteria for issuing suspensions for the above violations. We reserve the right to review each case individually and apply sanctions, including suspensions, as warranted. We also do not provide absolute quotas or number of violations for triggering sanctions. Setting absolutes in this area would not be fair to any seller. We believe that every case can only be judged on a case-by-case basis (and this is the reason we are moving disputes from PayPal to eBay in the new Resolutions program).




Posted by bikerhal on Jun 15, 2009 1:44 PM



Choice Listing Questions


On a previous response to a choice listing question concerning a listing of various Disney tapes, you responded as follows:


“It would depend on the original quantity provided in the listing. If the seller had two of each tape, they could list the lot of tapes but only with a quantity of two available for the entire listing. If they listed it with a higher quantity available, say, three, and a buyer bought two of one title, then they quantity available would be one but one of the titles would no longer be available (the one that the first buyer bought). This would make it impossible for the seller to provide the same choices to the second buyer as he provided to the first buyer.”


The response seems to me to imply that a choice listing of Disney tapes with different titles is okay given no quantity issues. I seem to recall in an earlier response that you implied similar tapes of various titles were not okay for choice listings but here it seems they could be. Please clarify.


If a seller wants to provide buyers a choice between say, separate VHS tapes with different titles in one listing (for the same price), the seller would have to have a quantity available for each separate title (or choice) equal to the quantity indicated in the “quantity” field.


The rule of thumb: In a choice listing, the seller MUST be able to fulfill the buyer’s request for any combination of choices in the quantity indicated at the time the buyer makes their purchase. (The quantity will decrement as buyer’s purchase items).



Posted by dogscene on Jun 15, 2009 3:21 PM



Vacation Mode for Fixed Price Listings


When will store owners be able to put core Fixed Price 30 day/GTC listings on vacation (hidden) like we can store inventory?


This feature is a MUST and should be given max priority! I moved the majority of my store inventory to core fixed price listings. While this has been working for me, it is unrealistic to live with in the long run.... In order to close up shop for a few days (hospital stays, vacations, emergencies, etc), I have to physically end every listing and then pay relisting fees to open back up. And that is if I am lucky and know about it in advance. I can't even guess what this does to the sales history of the items. Not to mention when relisting it goes back to the initial inventory amount and not what was remaining (what a headache). Ok for just a few items, but when you have hundreds....


Now that we have the handling time in every listing, and our DSRs are so important, we risk everything to leave them open if we can't ship as we promised when we initially listed it months prior. eBay must implement some sort of feature to enable store owners to put fixed price listings on hidden vacation. Anyone who doesn't think this is a priority must not sell much on eBay or doesn't have any kind of real life hassles!


I have forwarded this suggestion for extending the “vacation” ability to all fixed price listings to the appropriate teams. There is no word if this extension will be provided.


I appreciate your time and energy spent answering all these questions!


Thanks!




Posted by maize_dancer on Jun 15, 2009 3:41 PM



Auction or Store?


Hey I have had auctions on e-bay in the past and was wondering. Which is better auction or store?


Hard to say. One is a format (auction) and one is a selling tool (eBay Store). Which format to use depends on the item and whether or not an eBay Store will work for you depends on your goals as a seller. As a general guideline, the auction format works best for items that are rare or in high demand. The fixed price format works best for items that are otherwise readily available but are compelling based on their fixed price. However, this is not a hard and fast rule. Many sellers use the fixed price format for rare or expensive items and other sellers use the auction format for readily available commodity items.


One reason many sellers use the auction format is to help gain more exposure in a Best Match sort for an item, and by connection, to their other items. Auction items are ranked in Best Match by Time Ending Soonest.


An eBay Store offers a centralized, fairly customizable location on eBay to which a seller can easily direct customers. Stores also come with a list of useful features and tools like Markdown Manager, Vacation mode, and Email Marketing. An eBay Store also provides a seller with the least expensive (to list) format: eBay Store Format, which is also a fixed price format with the difference from regular Fixed Price in that it costs only .03 cents per month.


You may want visit our most excellent Help pages to read up on Formats and eBay Stores before making a decision.



Posted by cenafan on Jun 15, 2009 7:03 PM



DSRs and International Sales


I have a question about international sellers and DSRs.


I am located in Canada. I am constantly fighting to keep my DSRs above the 4.0 restriction level because buyers don't seem to understand that my items need to cross an international border before getting to them


I put a blurb in my auctions giving worst case scenario (2-3 weeks) and I send an email up on shipment stating the same information. And yet I still receive lower than 5 stars. Is there any plan to help international sellers with this skewed rating?


We currently remind buyers, at the point of leaving ratings, if a transaction is international and to take that into consideration when deciding what to leave. We are looking at other possible options but there is nothing decided at this moment.




Posted by ted_200 on Jun 15, 2009 8:42 PM



New First Five Listings Pricing Information Availability



The 5-free auctions... I've seen nothing about this yet, if I've missed it I apologize. How does re-listing work with this? If it doesn't sell, are you going to charge for the re-list (or count it again against the 5-free)?


The First Five Auction Listings Free (no insertion fees) pricing started this week. You can read the Announcement Board post HERE and more details HERE and a detailed FAQ HERE.



More Choice Questions


On the "choice" questions, you've basically said that if one of the choices wouldn't be available after a purchase, it doesn't qualify to be used. The multiple Disney videos of different titles was used as the example. But you then used the t-shirt example as something that would be allowed. Well, what happens when one of the sizes sells out? Say you've got a small clearance lot of 2-XL, 3-L, 3-M and 1-S sizes. Someone buys the size S. Now the same choices aren't available anymore. How is this different? Or, even if you had 2-S? If you sold them both, do you have to end the listing, or what?


The example you used above would not work as a choice listing of multiple quantity and would thus not be eligible for posting as a choice listing. In order for it to be eligible, the seller would have to have the same quantity available for all choices. Thus for a listing where a seller had choices of sizes in XL, L, M and S, the seller would have to have on hand each size in the quantity indicated as the initial quantity available in the listing. Let’s say you have 2 XL, 3 L, 3 M and 2 S. The initial quantity available could only be 2. It is the only quantity that will work for fulfilling all possible orders. If someone buys the 2 XL shirts, the listing will end. If a buyer buys only one of the XL, then the next buyer will only have the option of purchasing one shirt and all initial sizes are still available. (this is why your example won’t work as a multiple quantity listing. Since you only have one S size, you couldn’t indicate a quantity of 2 since you could not provide the first buyer the option to purchase TWO of size S.)


If a seller has only one of each size, I suppose they could list it as a Fixed Price with a single quantity and a choice of XL, L, M, or S but it might be smarter in that case to list four separate listings.


BIN/Reserve Questions


Along those same lines, the auction with a BIN... There's a link to a stale DB about some categories where the BIN goes away with the first bid and other categories where it won't go away until the bid exceeds 50% of the BIN price. Now, someone has posted to SC that their BIN is still there even though the bid is over 50% of the BIN. Can you help explain the excess complication and ambiguous policy? I actually tried a BIN on my auction once, but since I didn't figure out how it works right it just turned into a free gift for eBay and a useless expense for me.


According to the thread posted HERE the BIN / Reserve feature was changed back to the “old” formula last week but apparently, there were some glitches. I don’t know the status today but have inquired. By the way, the Help page for BIN and Reserves links to this discussion however, it would be better if this information were included in an appropriate Help page. I have forwarded this to the appropriate team for their consideration.


Immediate Payment


Last week's answers implied immediate payment for everything would be coming here sooner or later. For those of us who frequently sell multiple items to the same buyer and give shipping discounts, this is going to be a real problem. Further, if I sell 10 items to someone, I don't want to be paying PayPal 10 x 30¢ for the ten payments. Even if you intend to force sellers into Free Shipping on everything (no response to my allegation is necessary), some of us may want to give discounts to these buyers anyhow. And the PayPal issue is going to be a headache beyond the cost - 10 charges on my buyer's credit card, 10 line entries in my PayPal account,... this just isn't going to cut it. Have you considered these issues at all?



Let me clarify: The goal is to eliminate eventually, the ability for buyers to “buy” an item without paying for it. This means providing an immediate payment option for all formats along with a shopping cart (where the items could be combined into one payment). In this ultimate scenario, there would only be one transaction fee (if PayPal is used) since the buyer would be making one payment (not several). However, immediate payment for all formats and Shopping Cart is still a ways off from launch (next year at the earliest) so it is too early at this point to go into detail. I will forward your concerns to the team that will be working on it for their consideration.


New Item Page


The new Item Listing Page is having issues. Some buyers reported not being able to enter bids - the page just froze up! Many of the listings I'm seeing still require horizontal scrolling to read them - this is beyond annoying. And I sometimes see pages with miles of white space in them, and sometimes there is no description visible at all! Not a single "improvement" rolled out here in the last year has worked worth a darn, requiring several weeks of "tweaking" to get it functional. I assume I do not have to explain why this is an issue... can you please pass along our disgust, and pleas for relief, to the powers that be?


I would be happy to do so.


Sorry for the long post, and your consideration is always appreciated. Thanks!




Posted by mygift2u on Jun 16, 2009 8:46 AM



Deleting A Guide


How do I delete a GUIDE I have written?


Unfortunately, there is not “Delete” function for deleting a guide. You can go directly to one of your guides and click the “edit this guide” link (you have to be signed in as the guide author to see the link). Then try deleting all the text and submitting it.




Posted by carpe_dinar on Jun 16, 2009 8:52 AM



Bidding Question


Is there any possibility eBay might consider allowing bidders to choose whether they want their bids registered right away or "scheduled" for the final minute of an auction (in other words, an eBay snipe option)?


I sure hope so. I have been championing this for some time now. It could happen (but not this year).


Many bidders don't know about the sniper services available out there so for them it's either they're sitting at their computer during those final few minutes or they don't bid. Any potential bidder that doesn't bid costs sellers, and eBay, money. There has to be a better way to deal with this.


I know many fellow sellers and we can all tell stories about receiving post-auction emails that say something along the lines of "Carp! I meant to bid during the last minute but I had to deal with my kid/I forgot/my computer hiccuped/etc and didn't bid! If the high bidder doesn't pay, I want the item!!". How I hate those emails. Had far too many of them. And imagine how many times it's happened but I didn't know because no one sent an email...


I think failed snipe attempts cost us all, big time. Why can't eBay offer timed bidding to its bidders? Shouldn't any service to make buying/winning easier be seen as a positive? Don't we want as many bidders/buyers as possible?


Yes. I am a big proponent of this feature and it is something that could be created in the future.


PayPal eCheck Question


Also, why is PayPal still using the intentionally deceptive wording on its eCheck emails? (...Pending/Instant Payment... - the word "Instant" does not belong anywhere in that email) You said this was being addressed months ago.


Which emails? If this is the email alerting the seller that the payment is pending, then yes, that needs to be corrected. Email me a copy of the email if you have one. Keep in mind that an eCheck can be instant. If a buyer pays by bank account funding and he has a second funding option on their account (a credit card for example), PayPal will forward the funds immediately (instantly) for the payment out of PayPal’s pocket.




Posted by all*about*horses on Jun 16, 2009 8:56 AM



Related Items Content


I am finally able to see the new listing page from a buyer's view so I now have a question about the Related Items tab ... how does Ebay make the decision on what will be shown on that tab, providing the seller has not opted out of showing other seller items on it?


Keywords, mostly.


I was recently looking for horse magazines and was a little annoyed when looking at the Related Items tab to see magazines like Parade, and magazines about Britney Spears, etc. My search was VERY specific (Appaloosa Journal) so I should not be seeing JUNK about BS.


I just now searched for “appaloosa journal” and selected Completed Items (so I was viewing only closed listings.) I clicked on several and the Related Items area showed ONLY other “appaloosa journal” listings.


I cannot say why exactly you saw these results. It might have been the category in which you were initially searching (or if you were searching the entire site). However, it may have been that the Related Items content was showing you other “magazines” (the keyword). It is entirely possible that there were not enough or any other “Appaloosa Journal” items to show so the engine that picks out the items filled it in with items matching the one keyword – magazine – of which there are plenty of other examples.




Posted by hawgryders on Jun 16, 2009 8:58 AM



Seller Protection and Signature Confirmation


I am reading more & more about sellers losing PayPal claims where they do have DC that shows the package being delivered but because the transaction was over $250 and they failed to get Signature Confirmation (a rather obscure rule that most casual sellers know nothing about) the buyer was refunded anyway ...


The Signature Confirmation requirement for items over $250 in order to qualify for PayPal Seller Protection eligibility is clearly spelled out in several places on PayPal, most importantly, in the Print Postage and Label flow:



Why isn't there an option on the invoice page for signature confirmation (just like there is for insurance) that has a "required for transactions over $250" statement to keep sellers from being cheated by these less than honest buyers ?


Thank you for your suggestion. I have forwarded to the appropriate team for their consideration.




Posted by bikerhal on June 16, 2009 9:13 AM



Feedback UPIs and Misc


A seller states in his listing that payment must be made within 3 days from sale date. Buyer does not pay by then so seller relists on day 4. Payment is made on day 5 and seller refunds it. Brian Burke answered a previous question saying a seller could relist if the buyer did not pay within the stated time period. He also said the buyer could give negative feedback.


If the buyer paid after the stated time period and the seller refunded that payment and relisted:


1. If the buyer did give a negative stating he paid within 7 days but seller refunded, under what conditions would eBay remove the negative?


It would depend on what the buyer stated in the UPI dispute, not in the feedback comment. If the reason for not paying on time was not legit, then the chances are good that the comment would be removed.


2. If the buyer filed a NPS, would eBay accept it and ding the seller?


No.


3. If the seller filed a UPI, would eBay give the buyer a strike?


Yes, if the case was ruled in favor of the seller.




Posted by everythingporsche on Jun 16, 2009 10:06 AM



Suggestion: Adding a New Photo on ASQ


I would like to see ebay setup on the respond part when an other ebayer asks a question and they need an other picture that on the respond there would be a place to put extra pictures to show them if need be thanks partsheaven


Thanks for that suggestion. I have forwarded it to the appropriate persons for their consideration.




Posted by buriedbybooks on Jun 16, 2009 11:51 AM



Lots Information Not Showing On New View Item Page


I am having a difficult time locating where on the item page a listing is shown as being a 'lot.' I know how to list an item as a lot--my only active listing is correctly listed as a lot of 4 items--but I cannot see on the new view item page where that fact is visible. Am I missing it or is it just not there? If it is not there, are they going to restore that information?


You are not missing it. It isn’t there (in the new version of View Item). I will ask if it can be added back into the new View Item page.




Posted by sir.shawn on Jun 16, 2009 3:11 PM



Specifying Countries For Shipping


I am extremely aggravated. I have spent at least a couple hours trying to figure out how to specify the countries I will ship to. At one time, I must have set it to U.S. only. I have looked through the answer center and here on the discussion board. Nothing helps.


I have tried modifying Buyer Requirements and my Item Listing. Nowhere do I ever seen any option to select Countries/Regions.


From the number of times this question has been asked, I am far from alone in being aggravated on this issue. Is there any hope?


You can specific to which countries you will ship in the Sell Your Item form in the Give Buyers Shipping Details section:




Later this year, seller will have more options for selecting (or not selecting) specific countries.




Posted by menagerie1 on Jun 16, 2009 4:05 PM



Unusual Third Party Authorization Question


Under my Site Preferences : Third-party authorizations, this is shown: eBay Selling Manager Pro (created Apr-21-09)


I am not subscribed to SMPro, never have been, and (best of all) am not being charged for it. I've experienced sporadic glitches with Preferences before, but this one is different; it requires more than just a simple On or Off setting that can spontaneously change. I'd imagine.


Is this authorization related to my ebay Store, where it wasn't in the past? Such as, pertaining to the EOA Email (remember the invoice vs. not-an-invoice bug?), or something else contained within the Stores' settings that now makes use of SMPro functionality?


I hope that I'm being clear.. has the programming changed in such a way that ebay Store functionality makes use of SMPro functionality, which thereby requires SMPro authorization? If so, Store owners need to know this.


I asked someone to look at this and they are not sure why you are showing as authorized for SMPro (you are not on record as ever having subscribed to it.) Is it possible that you were once authorized for some other product? In the meantime, they are delving deeper into the code to see if there is some anomaly . In the meantime, send me an email at griff@ebay.com with a reminder to track back on this one.


While I'm on the subject.. those global options would be a great place for settings such as Return Policy, Shipping Time, etc. Dontcha think? Sure would have made compliance a lot easier for some sellers. Still would. Many have yet to make those changes. Prolly more changes to come, too. Maybe you could drop a hint along these lines to the appropriate party?


I will do so.




Posted by di25535 on Jun 16, 2009 4:26 PM



TurboLister Release Notes


Why does Turbo Lister never give its users the courtesy of release notes? We never know what's been done with the mysterious updates - at least not until it trashes our listings, causes errors, or other mayhem. At the minimum, we aren't able to utilize whatever "improvement" may have been included, since we have no idea what it was.


I have forwarded your request for Release Notes for TL to the Tools team for their consideration.



Posted by lindaspostcardsandmore on Jun 16, 2009 8:52 PM



Feedback Left For Buyers


Can you please pass on to someone in charge of all the changes that they have broken the feedback portion of my ebay?


It refuses to show that I have left feedback for two buyers. This makes it look like I haven't left it unless the person goes in to actually check. One already emailed me and was upset that it wasn't showing in his my ebay page.


You need to send the details to me in an email (including the item numbers). Griff@ebay.com using regular email, not My Messages. Thanks.




Posted by buriedbybooks on Jun 17, 2009 12:02 PM



Help Page for USPS Updating


Can you please forward this to the appropriate team for updating:


I reported it via the 'was this page helpful' thing at the bottom months ago and the page is still up. Specifically, the table shows USPS shipping methods that haven't existed since May of 2007.


I have sent this to Rich Matsuura who heads up the Shipping team. He is on it. Thanks for alerting us.




Posted by modelmax on Jun 17, 2009 1:41 PM



Linking To Facebook


In the past did we ever have the ability to share a listing of ours on facebook? I thought I remembered seeing that feature but can't find the littlr " f " link. Thank you for your answer. modelmax


That specific functionality has never been provided on eBay.




Posted by digisbeads on Jun 17, 2009 3:33 PM



International Displayed Shipping Options Concern


I had a question about listing with international visibility. I offer first class and priority for international, and the first class is the first option. When looking on the international site for items the shipping is correct at the first class rate (2.00) when scrolling and searching.


When the item it clicked on or the person goes into my store, the shipping rate changes to the priority rate. Now to buyers this seems confusing and seems to indicate I am charging 13.95 shipping on a $6.00 item. This has to have affected sales and makes ME-- not eBay-- look like I am unprofessional and a scam artist for charging so much for shipping. Who buys from someone who charges shipping at four times the cost of the item? Unless the buyer asks, they will never know, and of course not buy.


I have had four international customers question this. I spent much time with customer service to learn that the higher postage always shows over the cheaper on the eBay UK site for US postings. I only learned on call # three by the way. Calls #1 and #2 were very nice people, who attempted to help me, but did not know that this was the policy and practice. Therefore all guidance they offered was a bit skewed by this lack of knowledge.


I would have thought this would have been pointed out to me when I created the listing with Priority shipping available and indicated I planned to pay for international visibility. Given that shipping charges are a hot topic for buyers, sellers, and eBay, my questions:


Why is eBay not posting the listing accurately as created by the seller? If first class is the first option, it should be shown that way. Again, sellers, buyers, and eBay wins if the items sells. Correct? I then had to attempt to use bulk edit to delete the priority option from all 170 listings so it would show the first class postage so I did not look like a crook. Is the bulk edit feature broken??? It took hours because of repeated error screens and it was miserably slow. I did try Turbo Lister, but was so frustrated over the whole ordeal... I could not handle it for fear of damaging my laptop as it landed onto my lawn.


I have forwarded your post to Rich Matsuura for his attention. The Bulk Edit tool is scheduled for a major upgrade in the fall. For now, sellers should use TurboLister to make bulk edits.




Posted by di25535 on Jun 17, 2009 4:03 PM



Flat Rate Item Quantity Suggestion


There's a bug (or at least a serious disconnect) with the way eBay figures the shipping on these. I sell a widget that will fit nicely in a USPS Priority Mail Flat rate box. One widget will fit - and because it's heavy, the USPS Priority Mail Medium or Regular Flat Rate Box - You know the one that has been around the longest -offers the best shipping cost value for my customers - so I offer that as the shipping option.


The problem is that I can't offer multiples of this item on a listing, even though I have multiples. Why - because eBay, in its wisdom, has decided that an INFINITE number of these widgets will fit in a Priority Flat rate box. If a buyer wants 2, eBay has decided that they'll fit in the same box. (They won't). If a buyer buys 50 - eBay has decided that they'll fit in the flat rate box. (Only one will fit - and I can't change the laws of physics)


So, in order to avoid the problems that are cause by trying to save my buyers money I either have have to charge shipping using the higher cost, variable weight options, or list each individual widget on its own listing. Which is expensive and a waste of time.


There is a difference between flat rate shipping (same $ to all regardless) and a flat rate box. Is there some way we can indicate in the shipping calculator how many can fit in a flat rate box? I can't be the only one that's gotten bit having to ship a second item for free because of this....


Thanks for this information. I have forwarded your request and suggestion to Rich Matsuura (shipping team) for his attention.




Posted by marsull_inla on Jun 17, 2009 5:42 PM



Sneak Peak?


Sneak peaks at the Fall 2009 release:


(of course, this is subject to change):


• Merchant credit card in eBay Checkout (using IntegratedMerchantCreditCard)
• Ability to exclude countries you don't ship to
• Revise more data in multi-quantity fixed-price listings even after they have sales
• More support for shipment tracking information and specifying shipping carriers
• All pre-sale member messages intermediated through eBay for safety
I'm concerned about the last item.


How will this work? ebay does not allow ANY copy that resembles HTML. How am I supposed to give a detailed answer to a question with out using common punctuation that includes characters that appear to be HTML???


Too soon to say for certain (and I am curious, where did you see this “sneak peak?”) but it is extremely doubtful that we will allow HTML in My Messages.


Posted by buriedbybooks on Jun 17, 2009 6:56 PM


The item conditions for the media categories are:


* Brand New
* Like New
* Very Good
* Good
* Acceptable
The definitions for these conditions are:


* Brand New: Item has never been opened or removed from the manufacturer's sealing. Item must be in original shrink wrap.


* Like New: Item still in shrink wrap or looks as if it was just taken out of shrink wrap, no wear and tear, all facets of product flawless and intact.


* Very Good: No damage at all to jewel case or item cover (no scuff marks, no scratching, no cracks or holes), cover art and liner notes included, VHS and DVD box included, video game instructions and box included, teeth of disk holder undamaged, minimal wear and tear to exterior of item, no skipping on CD/DVD, no fuzzy/snowy frames on VHS tape.


* Good: Minor damage to jewel case (scuffs or cracks) or item cover (scuff marks, scratching, or cracks), cover art and liner notes included for a CD, VHS and DVD box included, video game instructions included, no skipping on CD/DVD, no fuzzy/snowy frames on VHS tape.


* Acceptable: Tear or hole in VHS/DVD box, video game instructions and box not included.


My problem with this? These are NOT the definitions for the item conditions re: books. They are for games, CDs and DVDs, but NOT books. Books have the same names for the conditions, but very different grading criteria.


A few books are sold shrink wrapped, but the majority are not. Anyone who has ever set foot in a bookstore would know this. So WHY was this released this way?


Thanks for this information and definitions. I have forwarded to the appropriate team for their attention.





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Re: Ask Griff - June 2009

Jun 18, 2009 2:46 PM
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Re: Ask Griff - June 2009

Jun 19, 2009 5:21 PM
Posted by buriedbybooks on Jun 18, 2009 11:03 AM

ISBN Numbers

Actually, Griff, the point is that the product information should exactly match the product being sold. Otherwise it inappropriately directs buyers to the listing that does not--in fact--resemble the item they are searching for. IE: it manipulates the search (and the buyer) into seeing an item that normally wouldn't appear if the item was listed correctly. And here's the problem with this: Listing an item with product details from our catalog, but then describing a different item in the description. For example, sellers can't use an ISBN to identify a paperback book, but mention in the description that it's an audio book with the same title but different ISBN.

The ISBN does not guarantee that the item being offered is NOT different from the item being described in the item details. Someone reading this could assume that as long as the ISBN matches, the other information contained in the product details are unimportant.

And here's why the Book Club Edition issue is so important-- Older BCEs used the same ISBN as the trade editions. But when you're dealing with BCEs of romance novels, for example, chances are likely that the FORMAT is going to be different. Most publisher edition romances are softcover. Nearly all BCEs are hardcover. Wouldn't it be better to dump the ISBN example (or UPCs for CDs, DVDs etc) and instead insist that the item cannot differ in any way (including cover art) from the item being offered in the matching product details?

No, it wouldn’t.

We absolutely rely on the code numbers (ISBN, UPC, etc) to provide a structured data matrix for the Media categories, (which by the way, is the industry standard for all retail online search engines for Media.) If two items share the same ISBN or UPC number (using the examples you have provided), then the seller should indicate the difference clearly in the title, description and custom tags so as not to confuse the buyer.

Keep in mind that the intent of the policy is to prevent a seller from manipulating eBay search by using the ISBN number for a popular item to draw buyers to completely different item. Apparently, there will be edge cases (two versions of one work sharing an ISBN number for example) but as long as the seller is offering the same item as the item tied to that ISBN number and indicating the actual version (or edition or other variance for the same ISBN number for example, “hard cover” “soft cover” “audio book” “ Book Club Edition” etc), then they are working within the rules and buyers are not misled.


And, following up on this, what is the consensus about lots? Is a seller allowed to use the product details if the product being advertised is contained in a larger lot?

As long as one of the items in the lot is the actual item matching the product details the seller has specified, then it would be ok (within the rules).



Posted by indiebiz on Jun 18, 2009 11:12 AM

First Five Listings and Multiple Accounts

Hi Griff,

Re multiple selling ID's and the FFF/30

The First Five Free thang - this is per Selling ID, right? Not per person?

Correct.

ex: If I have 5 selling ID's and I list 5 auctions under each of them will I get 25 auctions with no insertion fees?

Correct.



Posted by lesley_feeney on Jun 18, 2009 11:36 AM

First Five Free Question

Hi Griff,
Does eBay realize that sellers who can't (Mac users) or don't want to use 3rd party listers are going to flood the site with 5 free garbage listings (using one day auctions or ending them soon after listing them) just to get away from the final value fee price gouging?

It’s possible. We are watching of course to see what happens. It would be interesting of course to see what one seller might consider “garbage.” Most sellers don’t want to go through the work of listing five items with no possibility that they will sell but I suppose it is possible. Again, we will wait and see.

Surely this can't be good for eBay (unless your goal is to be able to report listing numbers are up), buyers or sellers. What's up with this ridiculous new option? Thanks.

Our goal is to increase sales, not listing numbers (which, if they don’t sell, actually costs us money). As for “what’s up,” this pricing was put in place after a lot of study and survey. Intended to provide insertion fee relief to sellers, it is one more step on the way to lower (and in some categories, no) insertion fees. This has been an ongoing request from all sellers. In fact, although only one example, here is a request that was posted on the February Ask Griff thread.



Posted by elecgreg on Jun 18, 2009 1:10 PM

Customer Support Issue

Griff

A few threads ago you mentioned that Customer Service was training and dispersing many Phone techs to bolster Customer Service to members. Has that class gotten over yet?

I ask because I have had a coupe of encounters in which the Customer Service Rep was pretty confused about certain aspects of the Selling Manager changes. the last one, yesterday, tried very hard to tell me how to change the color of the bars on the Summary Page, even though my problem was the data on the page was mostly incorrect. She tried and tried but I was unable to teach her enough english to solve my problem.

Sorry to hear this. If you want to send the details to me in an email (griff@ebay.com using your regular email, not My Messages), feel free to do so.


Posted by austiners (417) on Jun 18, 2009 3:29 PM

SmartFAQ Issue with Payment Options

Griff

There is a problem with the payment section of the new SmartFAQs.

One of the eBay supplied questions is: "How do I pay for my purchase?" And in my case, the eBay supplied answer is: "This seller accepts the following payment methods: PayPal, null"

Now, that "null" is my eBay approved ProPay account, which is one of the payment methods in each of my listings. Why isn't that being reflected in this eBay created FAQ? Is there a way to correct this information?

I confess, I don’t know why this is showing as “null.” I have forwarded your post to someone for their immediate attention.


Posted by adrian44 on Jun 18, 2009 4:40 PM

Soliciting Paper Payments in Buyer Invoices and PayPal Tech Issue

Hello again Griff,

A couple of things I would like to address.

Some sellers when sending an invoice through eBay have their banner at the top of the invoice. On that banner they are advertising they accept checks and Money Orders. Is this a violation or is it OK to do it this way?

It is a violation. Sellers may not solicit for unapproved payment methods in their listings or in their invoices to buyers. Said invoices, when discovered, should be reported directly to eBay.

Secondly, maybe you would pass this on to Paypal. It has happened to me twice and to my sister once. When trying to send money, not for eBay items, the page won't let you do it. I have tried and tried. Where it says to enter the ppersons email address the cursor will not stay there and you cannot enter the email addy. I emailed Paypal and got an answer that doesn't make much sense.

Here is what Paypal sent me:

Dear Adrian Simmons,
Thank you for contacting PayPal.
Business and Premier account holders receive Premium Customer Service,
seven days a week from our Business and Premier Account specialists. Our
team is specifically trained to accommodate the needs of premium account
members.
If you have any further questions, please feel free to contact us again.
Sincerely,
Gerald
PayPal Resolution Services
PayPal, an eBay Company
Original Message Follows:
------------------------
Form Message
customer subject: Won't let me send funds
customer message: Which auction website are you using?: 'Other'
If other, please specify the URL:
Additional Information: 'Clicking on "Send Money" when I get to the page
it won't let me input the sellers email. The cursor won't stay in the
email address so I can put in the address. I need to send it today!!!!!'

I have been unable to send money to my grandkids for their birthday and a couple of other things. As I said previously, others have also experienced this problem also.

I will forward this to a PayPal rep for his or her attention. However, I need your PayPal user id. Feel free to email it to me (don’t post it here!)


Posted by ozzie3 on Jun 18, 2009 5:33 PM

The Advantages of Last Minute Bidding

A seller who advocates sniping is a rarity indeed.

Not really. Many sellers support last minute bidding (aka, “sniping.”) After all, a bid is a bid regardless when it is made. And a bid made is better than a bid not made (forgot to place the bid, for example).

Most sellers that I am aware of much prefer that the buyers bid without the usage of sniping programs. Is there an advantage to sniping that works to the benefit of the seller?

Let me rephrase your question.

“Is there an advantage to bidding that works to the benefit of the seller?”

“Sniping” is last minute “bidding” and all bidding benefits the seller.

Most bidders, myself included, prefer to place their bids in the last minutes or seconds of an auction format listing. Some prefer the adrenalin rush. Some believe that by withholding their maximum bid until the last minute, it is less likely to be “tested” by another, more timid bidder who bids in single increments until they gain the “high bidder” position. Most experienced last minute bidders know enough that they will have once chance to win so they, myself included, still put their absolute maximum bid as their last minute bid amount. In the end, it isn’t necessarily the bidder who bids last who wins; it’s the bidder who bids the highest.


Would not buyer who bid their highest bid without resort to a sniping program be better for sellers?

Maybe, but not necessarily. Consider: I prefer to bid in the last minutes. However, I cannot be at every listing closing moments (I might be away from a computer or sleeping or on the road, or working, etc).Plus, I tend to forget some items on my watch list. The service I use actually has a FireFox plug in that opens a little window on the top of every eBay item page where I can quickly submit my maximum bid (I can also set how close to the end of the listing I want the bid submitted. The minimum is five seconds prior to the end). Now I never forget to enter a bid!
Finally, I have discovered that I win (read: “spend more money on”) many more items now than I did previous to using a bidding service. More wins means more spends. More spends means more money for sellers who might otherwise never have benefitted from my bidding.

Not that I win everything on which I place a bid. I have been outbid in the last moments by other last minute bidders more aggressive than me (Grrrrr….) A bidding service doesn’t guarantee the bidder that his bid will always be successful. But take a guess who does win every time in these situations, (and wins big if two or more bidders are bidding in the last minutes..)
That’s right. The seller!

Given my own experience as a buyer and my copious experience with live auctions and the psychology that drives the bidding on both platforms, on and offline auction format sales, I believe that making it easier for bidders to submit bids for last minute execution would result in more interest in auction format listings and subsequently, more bids and higher winning bid amounts. That is why I champion, as a seller advocate, an eBay Bidding Tool that allows a bidder to state when their bid will execute.



Posted by mygift2u on Jun 18, 2009 9:07 PM

International Buyers Getting Around Seller Blocks

Griff

A follow up to my earlier post where you said:

”If you don’t ship internationally, make certain that the option for International Shipping in the SYI form is set to “no international shipping.” Any other setting will allow international buyers to bid on or purchase the item. And then select the appropriate Buyer Requirement. You can set your Buyer Requirements for each item or globally (for all items by default) using the Site Preferences area of My eBay. Go to My eBay > Account > Site Preferenes > Buyer Requirements.

My preferences in My Ebay AND in my listings are set to Not Sell Internationally. Have been that way for over 8 years but a week ago, I had 2 sales that overroad my settings. Not only are my Site Preferences set to Block Internatioanl payments but ALSO my Paypal account is set to Block International payments. When the buyer tried to pay with Paypal (Paypal Brazil account), he emailed me and said my Paypal account would not accept payment from him. Not only did he have a Brazilian Paypal account BUT his eBay account was registered in Brazil! (Dec-22-08 in Brazil)

He was able to end my item but could not pay. Fortunately he was nice and agreed to cancel the sale through mutual agreement. Listing is 350168607185 if you want to let me know why this happened.

Could you go to the item number provided above and start the process for “Relist?” Don’t complete it (unless you want to of course) but on the first page of the SYI form for the Relist of the item, check the section that states: Provide Buyers Shipping Details and look at the International Shipping section.



Email me with what you see as the preselected option

Until recently, the default option selection was not “no international shipping” which was causing issues for sellers who did not want to provide an international shipping option and were not changing the default option to “no international shipping.”
If you are certain that the option selected was “no international shipping” email me and I will forward the post and the item number to someone for a closer look.



Posted by mygift2u on Jun 18, 2009 9:10 PM

Blocking APO Addresses

Is it possible to block payments from APO addresses? This is becoming a problem also. Some buyers are registering their ebay account in the U.S. then when are abroad (i.e. stationed in the service) they are apparently opening non U.S. Paypal accounts.
This is a problem

It is not possible to block payments from PayPal account holders with APO addresses, especially if the account holder has a home address based in the USA. You can however, block payments from account holders with non US Paypal accounts using the Payment Receiving Preference page in your PayPal Profile section:



Posted by ozzie3 on Jun 18, 2009 10:54 PM

DSR Opinion

Griff, you should know that the dsr's are just a symbol of something no-one, or I should say, few , really believe in!

Here is what I know about DSRs: I know that many sellers dislike them and would prefer they were discontinued. I know that many sellers in particular, dislike the Shipping DSRs (and not without good reason. Rating Free Shipping as anything but “very reasonable” is hard to justify and yes, I am advocating a change on this one). I also know many sellers – myself included - who appreciate DSRs in general as a way of receiving acknowledgement, by way of fee discounts, for providing excellent customer service. I also know that although they may be subject to change (simplification, streamlining, etc), seller ratings in some for or other, are here to stay.

I just left feedback for my sales , all straight 5's because it is easier than trying to leave something else!

Excellent.

Also, I don't want to hurt the sellers for doing nothing wrong, even though the shipping was slower, costlier, and packaging not up to my standards.

And I am sure some sellers here would sing your praises for leaving all 5’s even when you also believe they were not earned. However, speaking as a fellow buyer like yourself, what if I care about shipping speed, cost and the quality of packaging? How will I know if a seller is providing acceptable levels of service if previous buyers don’t leave honest ratings? And speaking as a fellow seller who, like you, prides himself on providing extraordinary customer service, why would you or I want to see another seller rewarded for providing a lower level of service than that which you and I provide to our buyers?

But I can never give anything less that 5s for those things relating to the item I purchase! As they are all described and if I leave anything less than 5s, it indicates I didn't read the auction.

What if a seller has left out information from the description regarding an important condition value for the item, something that you would not necessarily intuit as an issue otherwise? If that were to happen to you (and if your resulting dissatisfaction was not assuaged by the seller), would you still leave a 5 for As Described?

Anyone with a high school education knows that anything that reports that something is 100% satsifactory means that the reporting is skewed, although user and developers of the rating system think it is great. The Bell curve reveals the truth about all actions, does it not?

Sorry, I don’t follow. When I, as a buyer, am 100% percent satisfied with an eBay transaction (and I am nearly always 100% satisfied. eBay sellers are extraordinary that way), I leave a 5 because a 5 indicates, for me, 100% satisfaction. The vast majority of buyers on eBay feel the same. The vast majority of left ratings on eBay are in fact, 5’s.


Posted by bikerhal Jun 19, 2009 7:50 AM

Feedback

Griff

I am sure that you have seen numerous cases of obvious grossly unfair buyer feedback with the current system. For example, one where a buyer gave a negative for a bad $10 item that he claims he drove from Illinois (I think) to Connecticut to pick up – an item the seller still has because he never got paid. One of the main reasons eBay has given for not allowing sellers to give a Buyer a negative was that sellers left 8 times as many ‘retaliatory’ negatives. Therefore, I conclude the following:

1. eBay apparently has a way of identifying retaliatory negatives.

2. If that is true, then eBay should have a way of controlling or at least dealing with them and not have all sellers penalized

3. There will always be more retaliatory negatives from sellers so the 8x number is not very significant

Regarding the last point, feedback to a seller is extremely important. For a buyer it is relatively unimportant. Under the old system, a seller is unlikely to give a buyer negative feedback first for he knows a negative in return can hurt his sales and livelihood. A buyer has much less concern about that. Therefore the opportunity for retaliation was much higher for sellers – probably about 8 times higher.

Question: If seller retaliatory negatives was the main reason for the revised policy and if eBay can identify such feedbacks, why not institute a policy to control them and develop a more fair system?

We did. Sellers can no longer leave buyers negative or neutral feedback. I am not being facetious. If you keep in mind that we cannot adjudicate every feedback left and that buyer’s have one and only one obligation (which is to pay) and that we have a system for handling buyers that don’t fulfill this obligation, (and that this system is about to be enhanced, specifically with regards to non paying buyers and the ability to leave feedback), then the current system is the only one that works.

We have and we will continue to take action against buyers who are truly abusing eBay or sellers. But the ability for sellers to “rate” buyers with negative or neutral feedback is not coming back. It would be unfair and disingenuous of me to lead anyone here to believe otherwise.



Posted by carpe_dinar Jun 19, 2009 8:02 AM

More on Last Minute Bidding (aka, Sniping)

A seller who advocates sniping is a rarity indeed.

> > Most sellers that I am aware of much prefer that the buyers bid without the usage of sniping programs. Is there an advantage to sniping that works to the benefit of the seller? Would not buyer who bid their highest bid without resort to a sniping program be better for sellers?
Ozzie,


Theoretical vs practical.

Yes, it would be fabulous if everyone placed their highest bid, blah, blah, blah. But you know very well that will never happen. Bidders like to snipe. Period. So rather than leaving a very small window of time, during which anything could happen to prevent the sniper from bidding, why not allow the sniper to place a bid as soon as they see an item they're interested in. Just allow them to schedule their bid.

Some bidders will still want to have their bid shown right away; others will want it timed. As long as everyone who wants to place a bid actually places a bid, I'm good with it. I believe that too many bidders wait to snipe but then fail to launch that bid, costing us all money. I think that's the biggest problem with sniping. Not the sniping itself, but the failed launches. Most bidders wait til the end, and most of those fail to place their bid. Bad for sellers.

I'd rather work with reality than play the wishful thinking game.

Well said. Thanks!


Posted by westvirginiaborn on Jun 19, 2009 8:10 AM

eBay FaceBook Application

TO: MODELMAX and GRIFF ~
The facebook option is located under "Site Preferences" and looks like this:
Share your eBay items with friends Hide
You can share your items with other social networking websites.
Facebook

Oops. I should have checked that site preference availability first. Yes, the feature is there but the actual FB application that uses the feed (eBay Marketplace) is broken, and has been since January of this year. No estimate if or when it will be fixed. (that is why I assumed the preference had been removed as well. That old “assume” thing…gets one every time…)


Posted by postcardsnstuff on Jun 19, 2009 8:42 AM

Selling Manager Pro Authorization Error

Griff,

I am also showing third party autho for Selling Manager Pro as of 24th Mar 09 (site prefs). I have never had SMP.
"eBay Selling Manager Pro (created 24-Mar-09)"
Should I revoke this autho or is it being used for something?

Do nothing for now. I have forwarded these new reports of SMPro authorization to the appropriate team for their attention. If they respond with an action, if one is needed, I will post it here.


Posted by deals4u415 on Jun 19, 2009 10:21 AM

Verifying A Buyer’s Age

How can I verify that the buyer is 18 or older?

How can I verify that the buyer is 21 or older?

Technically, all account holders affirm that they are 18 or older upon registering. (there is no requirement for an eBay account holder to be or indicate that they are 21 or older) In reality, there is no way to absolutely guarantee that an account holder is actually 18 or older. A minor could obtain or be provided access to a guardian or parent’s account, either with their permission or without it (kid’s today are extremely tech savvy, usually more so than their parents).
One member posted a few years ago that there was a way to verify an eBay member’s age. (Something about sawing limbs and counting rings) but I don’t think that would be workable.

You can block PayPal Student Accounts in your PayPal Profile > Payment Receiving Preferences page.



Posted by buriedbybooks on Jun 19, 2009 10:26 AM

Selling Manager Pro Authorization Error

Wonder what happened in March?

eBay Selling Manager Pro (created Mar-02-09)
I am also not a current or former subscriber to SMP.
Could this have something to do with the new My eBay and bulk edit functionality?

Possibly. I have forwarded your post to the same person for her attention (Renee). They will respond when they know more.


Posted by menamartinez on Jun 19, 2009 11:09 AM

UPI - Time To File

Hey Griff,

I sold an item on the 17th (two days ago) and was really anxious to sell something as I have not sold anything on eBay for 4 years. I sent an invoice immediately after the auction closed, and did not receive a response from the customer. I sent another message yesterday, and still no response. Well, one thing I noticed about the buyer is that he was new to eBay and had no feedback regarding previously purchased items. Sure enough, I go today to send the buyer another message and see that he has one positive feedback on his profile now. I searched the item and it is an item similar to the one he won from me. I just really have a hard time accepting that I now have to wait 7 days to file an Unpaid Item dispute with eBay as I can clearly tell the buyer moved on and purchased another product. Is there anyways to resolve this issue faster?

The time to file a UPI will be shortened in the next upgrade of the feature. In the meantime, assume nothing until you do (or after filing, don't) hear from the buyer. If the buyer does back out (because they bought the item from another seller), you will win the dispute. In the meantime, if you do hear from the buyer before the seven days that he is not going to complete the transaction, you can relist the item at your discretion.


Posted be snappyauctions14 on Jun 19, 2009 11:48 AM

UPI and Feedback

Dear Griff:

Please note the following previous question (your response bolded) WRT our question below that:

A seller states in his listing that payment must be made within 3 days from sale date. Buyer does not pay by then so seller relists on day 4. Payment is made on day 5 and seller refunds it. Brian Burke answered a previous question saying a seller could relist if the buyer did not pay within the stated time period. He also said the buyer could give negative feedback.
If the buyer paid after the stated time period and the seller refunded that payment and relisted:

1. If the buyer did give a negative stating he paid within 7 days but seller refunded, under what conditions would eBay remove the negative?

It would depend on what the buyer stated in the UPI dispute, not in the feedback comment. If the reason for not paying on time was not legit, then the chances are good that the comment would be removed.


Q1 (in parts): According to the above scenario, why would the UPI be necessary to refer to? In fact, no UPI is actually even required, although clearly it is likely since that's the only way to get the fees back eBay automatically assesses (a whole 'nother argurment as to reasonability part 1). Once facts are reviewed, it would be clear that no payment was yet received at the 4-day point, and thus violated the sellers TOS. If eBay's position is that they wish to stewart the process (a whole 'nother arguement as to reasonability part 2), then why even allow a seller TOS? And finally, what constitutes a 'legitimate' reason for non-payment in eBay's collective mindset? If we are compelled to adopt a legitimacy standard, shouldn't we be advised of its details?

The process, like it or not, is required. We cannot make judgements or rulings in payment disputes without a consistent process in place. During the present UPI process, the buyer has a chance to respond to the dispute. If the buyer can provide a legitmate reason for not paying, (for example, "the seller has changed the terms of the sale,"), then currently, the buyer can leave a negative and it would not likely be subject to removal. If the buyer doesn't respond (or responds with for example, "I changed my mind," "I found it somewhere else," "I didn't bid on this, my dog did," etc), then any left feedback would be removed.

Regard post 26 above as another typical example to preceed the next question:

Q2: Given the requirement to mandate an electronic (instant when done) payment method, why is the 7-day waiting period (plus another 8 days to be allowed to freely relist to avoid any 'issues') still a requirement? Shouldn't that wait time be a seller preference? Buyers are told to provide 2 business days to allow sellers to respond to a communication. Yet sellers are required to wait up to 8 days for same, then another 7? How is that balanced?

It isn't. And it is about to be changed.
I have, on more than one occasion, posted on Ask Griff that the current UPI process is due for an upgrade this year and that the window for filing a UPI will be much shorter in the new version. This is why I politely request that posters please read through past response threads (where I have indicated subject matter with a header to help identify posts for easier finding) before posting a question.



Posted by bikerhal on Jun 19, 2009 12:27 PM

Choice Listings Question Redux

Griff
This is the third question on the same subject , which I believe you have avoided giving a direct answer. I promise, this is my last try.

Assuming NO QUANTITY ISSUES, can a seller list a number of VHS Disney tapes with different titles (e.g. Bambi, Snow White, etc.) under the choice listing policy?

I’m trying to use this tape example to better understand eBay’s meaning for the terms “identical items” and “configurations” in the policy statement..

Hopefully you can first provide a Yes or No answer and then elaborate as you wish.

Maybe. My apologies. I wasn't trying to avoid giving an answer (I have a sure fire method for that purpose). I misunderstood the question. You want to know if you can offer a choice for this particular category of items (VHS titles) and were referencing the Variations feature and policy. Variations are only available in the Clothing, Shoes, and Accessories and Home and Garden categories.

According to the Choice Policy as listed on the site, there is nothing that explicitly states your VHS listing example would be in violation (although they might be considered an edge case. It would however, probably be better if they shared a common theme, for example, all Disney releases.) But to be absolutely sure, I have forwarded this entire post to T&S for their final word. When they have responded, I will post the information.



Posted by ozzie3 on Jun 19, 2009 2:03 PM

Seller Advocacy

As the seller's advocate, are you in coflict with your duties, when you advocate changes to benefit the buyers?

No. Despite what some may think, buyer and seller interests are not mutually exclusive. Helping buyers spend more money on eBay helps sellers.

What changes have you recommended that will benefit the abilitly of the sellers to complete their deals without fear of fraudulent actions by the buyers?

Sure. Interestingly enough, no one has ever asked that question. Here's the list of the points for which I have been and am currently advocating, along with many of my colleagues, in no particular order:

  • Enhancement and simplifcation of the appeal process for all SNADs to make it more equitable for sellers
  • Clearer, more concise messaging from T&S.
  • Elimination all feedback and ratings for UPI transactions
  • Simplification of all aspects of Reputation (including DSRs and Feedback)
  • Eventual elimination of the UPI issue (Immediate Payment for all formats with Shopping Cart) ( next year)
  • Reduced fees for auction format listings (Insertion fees in particular)
  • Changing Best Match algorithm for Antiques, Art, Collectibles and Pottery and Glass (the "auction" prone categories).
  • Simplification of Sell Your Item form


There are many other topics where I provide input when requested but those are the main points that align with the input and feedback that most sellers provide to me and on which I have been working for the last six months.


Or is your position simply a position to assist, if possible, the problems of buyers and sellers?

It's both. I assist and I advocate. They work well together. I have enjoyed helping eBay buyers and sellers for 13 years now (that's why my email address is plastered all over the internet.) One roll informs the other. I receive about 25 to 50 emails a day from sellers (and buyers). Assisting with their issues, problems, complaints, etc provides me an invaluable perspective on what isn't working on our end and what needs to be improved or fixed.

Why would buyers need assistance in their transactions when they are protected both by eBay and by PayPal?

New buyers are often overwhelmed and need a hand with processes you and I might take for granted. Sometimes I have to walk buyers through the rules as they apply to buyers with regards to buying and payment. Buyers in general, just like sellers sometimes run into issues or disputes with sellers that, even though they are covered by eBay or PayPal, still require assistance from an eBay employee. Maybe it's how to best communicate with a seller, or why did they loose the bid on an item, or what they need to do to work out or resolve a dispute with a seller.



saynomorejoe on Jun 19, 2009 2:07 PM

Buyer & Seller Obligations

Reading the user agreement I see that the user agreement protects the buyers, OK,
But there is absolutely no protection for the sellers in the eBay user agreement, is there?
Why is that?

The User Agreement spells out eBay Purchase Protection, (not Buyer Protection). This section provides details of both the buyer's and the seller's obligations in an eBay transaction. It is not "buyer protection." alone.

Are the buyers and the sellers considered to be equals in eBay transactions?

The onus of responsibility, in any marketplace and in any buyer/seller transaction (but even more so in a transaction model where they buyer pays for an item before receiving it), lies with the seller, not the buyer. The buyer has one obligation: to pay for the item. The seller however, is obliged to describe the item in as much detail as possible, be avaliable to answer buyer questions about the item, package and send the buyer the item (on eBay, this usually involves a carrier), help resolve any post sale issues that might arise (item lost or damaged in transit, etc). So no, buyer and seller are not entirely equal with regards to transaction responsibility.


Posted by holidayshopper201 on Jun 19, 2009 2:41 PM

Feedback Notification Settings Ignored?

Hi Griff,

If a seller is using an eBay provided tool such as Selling Manager and has it setup to automatically send out Feedback Reminder Notices, why aren't Buyer's Notification Preferences for no Feedback Reminders honored? These reminders ARE being sent via the eBay platform and from eBay's own mailservers.

I wrote about it in this thread:

Link

Is that something that can be fixed? As a seller, I wouldn't want those going out to buyers who didn't want them.

I have forwarded your question and the post link to the appropriate persons for their attention.


Posted by buriedbybooks on Jun 19, 2009 3:09 PM

Griff,

I find this alarming:

All pre-sale member messages intermediated through eBay for safety

My Messages STINKS in the reliability and usability department. No ability to send potential buyers extra photos, often failing to timely deliver messages sent through the system, failing to forward My Messages stuff to email, lack of threading (a biggie for me).

As for 'safety' we all know this is about discouraging off eBay sales. But what do they think is going to happen when sellers aren't able to respond promptly or efficiently to buyer questions? Buyers are going to throw their hands up and walk away--taking their money elsewhere.

Why on earth is eBay so paranoid about 'off ebay sales' that they sabotage sales ON eBay?

It is premature to comment on this topic (although we did announce last summer that this feature was in the works). The complete details have not been ironed out. More news about all upcoming releases will be provided in the next Seller Update (mid summer)


goodsfromnana on Jun 19, 2009 4:04 PM

Cancelled Sale, Refunded Payment, How to Obtain Final Value Fee Refund?

Mr Griff,

I have not had this happen before. I sold an item (pair of convertible latches). The buyer returned them but before I could reply to emails (I was away for a few days) the buyer requested a refund via paypal. When I returned I ok'd that refund immediately.
How do I now receive credit for the commission to ebay / reverse the transaction in ebay?

Thank you in advance for the help!

You need to file a UPI report. But before you do, email the buyer and alert them. Tell them that you have to file the report in order to receive a Final Value Fee credit and that you will both select the option for "Mutual Cancellation." Assure them that there is no consequence for them in this process. Then go to the UPI reporting page to start the process.


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Posted by mygift2u on Jun 19, 2009 9:32 PM

International Shipping Settings Issue

Listing is 350168607185 if you want to let me know why this happened.

Could you go to the item number provided above and start the process for “Relist?” Don’t complete it (unless you want to of course) but on the first page of the SYI form for the Relist of the item, check the section that states: Provide Buyers Shipping Details and look at the International Shipping section.
Email me with what you see as the preselected option

Until recently, the default option selection was not “no international shipping” which was causing issues for sellers who did not want to provide an international shipping option and were not changing the default option to “no international shipping.”
If you are certain that the option selected was “no international shipping” email me and I will forward the post and the item number to someone for a closer look.

Griff


With all due respect. I already went through that process you described to check my listing before I reported it here. After 8+ years of selling, I certainly know how to check the preferences that were in a listing that ended.
I also gave you the listing number in my post: Listing is 350168607185

Do I need to send you screen shots of the preferences that were in that listing?? Certainly the technical team can see that they were set to "NO International Shipping."

Sorry but I could not assume that you have already checked this (I get into a lot of hot water here by assuming) so please my apologies if you were offended by my requesting that you go back to check it.

EVERYONE: This is why it is imperative that anyone using Ask Griff to ask a technical question provide as much detail in their first post or send it to me via email for quicker response/resolution. (at griff@ebay.com using regular email, not My Messages)

I have forwarded your post to the team responsible for shipping and the SYI form for their attention.



Posted by buriedbybooks on Jun 19, 2009 9:53 PM

SYI Issues

Griff, while they're simplifying the SYI form, can they make it work correctly, too? I never used the original form, but I can tell you that my listing speed plummeted when they switched from 2.0 to 3.0.
The page loads VERY slowly for me--and I'm on dsl. I shudder to think about those on dial up. Also--big pet peeve for me that was repeatedly ignored by the SYI team...

Catalog info and Sell Similar:

Can they please fix the flow when using sell similar and catalog information? I would appreciate a CHANGE button instead of a 'remove' button that would remove the previous ISBN info and allow me to replace it in one step instead of the 3 (or 5) steps it currently takes now.

Thanks!
Amber

I will forward your post to the team responsible for their attention and consideration of your suggestion for the SYI form for Category Info and Sell Similar. (One note: I use the SYI form from home to list items – on a Mac - and it always loads very fast for me. However, on my laptop, the page does load slowly (all over DSL). I determined that for the laptop, using IE, the browser security settings were set to scan pages for phishing site before completely loading them. I altered the security setting and page load sped up. I am not saying this is what is wrong on your end but you might want to check if this is security setting is configured in such a way that it is slowing down computer. )


Posted by buriedbybooks on Jun 19, 2009 10:09 PM

International Handling Time Indication Missing

Handling time:

I was under the impression that the required specified handling time was for domestic ONLY. And yet:
Congratulations! Your item just sold. You agreed to ship this item to the buyer within 3 business days after receiving cleared payment.
This was on my item sold email. My buyer lives in the UK.

Because I ship via First Class International, I have to take every international package to the post office. Domestic packages can be mailed from my home. As a result, it takes me a few days longer to get my international items out--especially in bad weather, which we frequently get up here in the winter.
And I'm sure I'm not alone in having a different international vs. domestic handling time. Now--there is no spot on the SYI form for international handling time. And the little help page that pops up when I click the question mark tells me this:
Domestic Handling Time

So: does our DOMESTIC handling time reflect both domestic and international despite the wording all over the place that indicates otherwise?

I do not know the answer. I have inquired.

And are our buyers being messaged with that same information??

I don't know the answer to this one either. I have inquired.

IE. are the domestic handling times being used to estimate INTERNATIONAL delivery times as well??

Inquiring about this one too.

If that is the case, I'd like to ask for a distinct international handling time field on the SYI form because I know many, many sellers need extra time to process those international orders.

Thanks for this information. I have forwarded this to Rich Matsuura for his attention and consideration as a future enhancement of the Shipping Details section of the SYI form.


Posted by buriedbybooks on Jun 19, 2009 10:26 PM

Structured Data

We absolutely rely on the code numbers (ISBN, UPC, etc) to provide a structured data matrix for the Media categories, (which by the way, is the industry standard for all retail online search engines for Media.)
Okay--I'm stumped. What does 'structured data mix' mean?

A “Structured Data” matrix as opposed to unstructured data matrix, simply means data that shares a common accepted standard for defining the data in a data model, in this case, ISBN numbers which, although not always perfect apparently, still provide consistent structure to data, for example, a data base with millions of book listings. User supplied data definers, like titles, are not always “structurable” since they are subject to inconsistencies. For example, “Harry Potter Goblet Of Fire” is harder to qualify to a single item since it could be associated with a book, a DVD, an audio book, a t shirt, etc. (and since categorization is also a user supplied field, it cannot be relied upon as a consistent data marker. ) Pre existing data definers, like ISBN or Serial or UPC codes, give structure to data that makes more successfully and consistently searchable.

(By the way, the lack of common recognized industry standard “numbers” or code for items in categories like Antiques, Collectibles, etc, makes them more difficult to structure in a searchable array. This fact is why some online marketplaces that specialize in items which can be structured by code or number do not provide categories for items like Antiques, Collectibles, etc)


As a clarification, I wasn't suggesting that eBay dump catalog info or its importance to search. I was suggesting that the Search and Browse policy example be deleted because it could lead to confusion when the ISBN on the item does not match the stock info provided by MUZE.

The policy is applied based on intent. If an ISBN number happens to associate to two different versions of the same title, the seller wouldn’t be held accountable since it was clearly not the intent of the seller to manipulate search or browse.

Some trivia for you:
One of the main reasons for the shift from a 10 digit ISBN (International Standard Book Number) to a 13 digit one was because they were starting to recycle the numbers. Which means there are several books out there with identical ISBNs that are completely different books. Muze picks the most popular one to assign the number to--most of the time.

Not surprising. I remember when eBay Item numbers where only 8 digits long and were lengthened for the same reason!
If your concern regarding the use of the ISBN example in the Search and Browse Manipulation policy was “false positives,” I assure you that the policy would not be applied in cases where it was clearly not the intent of the seller to manipulate the policy, i.e., ISBN number for two different versions of the item.



Posted by skylab2 on Jun 20, 2009 5:03 AM

Email Promotion Complaint

Hi Griff,

Yesterday I received a promotional email from eBay titled 'skylab2, recommendations just for you‏'.

I love these emails even though normally, when I look at these emails, whatever is being promoted there usually makes me wonder why the particular items being displayed are being shown to me.
But yesterday, to my amazement, there was actually something that I wanted. I was short on time, at that moment, so I made a note to myself to check on it a short time later after I wrapped up what I was doing.
When I went back and reopened the email about an hour later all the items that had been offered earlier were gone and different items were in their place!!
After a momentary GAH!, I hit refresh to see what would happen and low and behold, all the items changed again. I kept hitting refresh until the item I was interested in popped up again.
Here's my question, why isn't there something in that email that would allow me to scroll through all the items being showcased or at the very least warning me that if I don't click on the item that caught my fancy when I first saw it, it might be gone (and I don't mean sold!)when I come back to look again?
I can't help but wonder how many sales have been lost to sellers because buyers who get these messages would assume the item was no longer for sale when they went back to the email and a particular item was no longer visible.
A sloppy implementation of what should be a very good tool if you ask me.

The content in these emails is (obviously) dynamic and does change as the items on the site changes> I suppose it is possible that a reader who doesn’t click on an item of interest immediate to lose their place so to speak and either forget about the item or assume it is no longer available. However, just as many or more buyers are also more likely to click on the item of interest immediate, if only to put it on their watch list. Keep in mind that no marketing or promotion email will be 100% effective, 100% of the time, however, I have forwarded your comments to the marketing team in charge of these emails for their consideration.


Posted by webprofitplus on Jun 20, 2009 5:20 AM

Mutual Cancellation and the UPI Process

GRIFF,

When a buyer & Seller mutually agree to rescind a sale you responded to "goodsfromnana" :

"You need to file a UPI report. But before you do, email the buyer and alert them. Tell them that you have to file the report in order to receive a Final Value Fee credit and that you will both select the option for "Mutual Cancellation." Assure them that there is no consequence for them in this process. Then go to the UPI reporting page to start the process. "
If Ebay is being so buyer-centric why on earth is there not an option for a mutually agreed cancellation where the buyer can, with a single click BEFORE and as a condition of the seller refunds, indicate the mutually agreed to cancellation of the sale option and an automatic refund of seller fees ensues.
The way you want it we have to ding the buyer with a UPI and convince them there are "no negative consequences". ("Trust me - this won't hurt a bit.") And the buyer has to do something to comply with some bureaucratic nonsence and there is nothing in it for the buyer. Why is this necessary?
If a buyer returns something to a B&M store they get their money back right away without the B&M's sales staff calling them and convincing them that they were reported to the Credit Reporting Agency but "their will be no negative consequences!"

I completely agree, as does eBay. I have stated before that the entire UPI process (including options like Mutual Cancellation) are in the process of improvement and streamlining. The re-vamped UPI process will launch this year. More information as it is available.


Posted by webprofitplus on Jun 20, 2009 5:45 AM

Standard Flat Rate Shipping (No Carrier Indicated) and Buyer Address

Griff,

I live in the country. As our mail box was at the end of a very long drive, the bad guys would continually harvest the mail from these rural mail boxes. Consequently many of us have removed our mail boxes and gotten PO Boxes.
UPS, FedEx, etc deliveries are fine as they drive up to the door.

If something is being sent via USPS I give my confirmed PO Box. If by other means I give my street address. So what do I give when all the listings now say "standard shipping" or some such with no indication of being USPS or a 3rd party carrier.
If I give my street address and it's sent via USPS, The USPS charges me addl postage to forward the package to my PO Box. (A real hassel given the lines at the PO.) If I give my PO Box, invariably I get a message from the seller saying UPS can't deliver to a PO Box.
In order to help this I have to write note with each payment explaining the situation and what address to ship to. WHY? Why can't the listings just indicate whether its going to be shipped via USPS or some 3rd party delivery service?

This is, currently, a seller choice (to supply “Standard Flat Rate Shipping” as an option). In cases where a seller has not indicated the carrier or class of service, a buyer should email them prior to purchasing or bidding to learn exactly what services the seller will provide (or not provide) so that you, the buyer, know which address to provide the seller, post sale. Most sellers who use this option do so because they use a carrier or service that is not provided in the Shipping Calculator (for example, FedEx, DHL, Greyhound, etc)

Elegant? Nope. But for now, since we are not removing this option from the current list of seller choices for shipping, the only one that will work (in cases where the seller does not indicate any information about carriers, etc) Sellers who provide on the option for Standard Flat Rate Shipping should indicate at least one if not a choice of carriers in the item description Terms of Service.


PS: As a side note, Buy.Com won't deliver to a PO Box so I list my street address. Lo and behold any purchases sent via USPS and forwarded by USPS are automatically sent back to Buy.com by the PO as Buy.com prohibits the PO from forwarding to a PO Box with instructions on their label. When I called Buy.com's cust service they said "Too Bad that's the policy" and unless I was willing to pay for Priority Mail shipment they would cancel the sales. They cancelled the sales!

I checked Buy’s eBay listing Terms of Service and they state clearly “WE DO NOT SHIP TO PO BOXES OR APO/FPO ADDRESSES.” Have you asked your local post office clerk if they could hold mail sent to your street address? I have a street address and a PO Box for my Vermont home and the Post Office has always held my parcels addressed to my street address.



Posted by honeyspiderbeer on Jun 20, 2009 8:41 AM

Blocking Buyers Who Have Left Negative Feedback

Griff,

Yes?

I have a few of questions for you:

Fire away!

If ebay offered sellers an option to block bidders who have left negative feedback for a time period of say 30 days, what percentage of sellers do you think would use that option?

Too high a percentage to ever allow for implementation. I am serious. There are some ideas that, though they might sound like a good option to a single seller, would actually work against all sellers’ best interests. For example, a tool that allowed sellers to block buyers based on whether they have left negative feedback in the last, say, 30 days, would penalize buyers for the act of leaving negative feedback.
I will turn it around: Let’s say you are a buyer. What would you do if, as a buyer who had left negative feedback for a seller (we assume because you believe that they deserved it), you suddenly found you were not able to bid on or buy items from most sellers on eBay? Would you stick around? Would you shop in a marketplace that provides an option for you to rate a seller based on your experience only to find that there were severe consequences for using that option?


I, as a former ebay seller (as a hobby), would rather pay a flat fee to list something (even if it is higher than what the fees are now) and be able to control my sales as I see fit, not the way ebay sees fit. I have heard you say many times the only obligation a buyer has is to pay. Fine. Why don't ebay simply block ALL buyers from leaving feedback until the buyer can provide proof they paid? I would think if a seller only accepts Paypal, this should be fairly easy to do.

In theory, this would work. In practice, at least today, it won’t. Remember, the Accepted Payment policy lists several categories where online payments are not required. There is no workable way to verify payments not made online. However, as I have stated (over and over and over) in past responses, I am a champion of blocking all feedback for UPI transactions, regardless of the reason. I am happy to report that we are moving in that direction. More information as it is available.

Take this for instance, let's say I sell a CD to a buyer. the buyer receives the CD, listens to it and decides he or she does not like the music on the disc. They ask for a refund and I refuse (after all, I'm not a mind reader). Do I deserve negative feedback in this instance?

Uh… maybe. But the decision – whether you deserve a negative - isn’t mine to make: it’s your buyer’s. What you are asking for is the right to sell the item, possibly to a buyer who is subsequently dissatisfied (for whatever reason), the right to refuse to remedy the unhappy buyer with a refund, credit, or replacement, and the right to receive immunity from negative feedback from that unhappy buyer.

I think ebay's logic of all buyers should be made happy leaves way too much gray area. Thus, spreading the fear that many sellers today have.

Does eBay want you to make your buyers happy? Absolutely. Actively making buyers unhappy is a sure fire way to drive buyers away. I have a question for you to consider: If one of your buyers is unhappy with her purchase, for whatever reason, what possible benefit is there to you, the seller, in not providing her with some sort of out or resolution (return, credit, etc)? Why would you want your buyer (your possible future loyal repeat customer) to go away unhappy? If I was your competitor in the category, I would have two things going through my mind: I’d be champing at the bit to get this buyer’s business and I’d be distressed that your treatment of this buyer might have driven them off eBay


Posted by ranchonan on Jun 21, 2009 9:44 AM

FFF (First Five Free) Status in Seller Dashboard?

Hi Griff:

First Five Free Status

I know we can check our Seller Account Activity to see if our auctions were listed for free - but this only shows after the fact. Are there any plans to make the current status of free listings available in our seller dashboard? Something that shows how many more we can list with no insertion fees during the rolling 30 day period?

I don’t believe so, at least not at the moment but your suggestion is a good one. I have forwarded it to the team responsible for Seller Dashboard for their consideration.


Posted by ted_200 on Jun 21, 2009 2:38 PM

DSR and Restrictions

Hi Griff,

Hello.

This week's question is on a topic I never thought I'd be asking about: Seller suspensions.

I took a break from listing last month, and one of the last feedbacks I got left me a couple of "1"s for shipping DSRs (item shipped day after paid, for a buck-fifty, no less, but I digress...). Now, since I haven't sold recently, the good feedbacks are dropping off and my 30-day shipping DSRs are tanking. Even though my 12 month DSRs are still quite high, my shipping DSRs for the 30 day keep sinking and my search standing is now "Lowered".
As more drop off, I expect my 30-day will drop below 4.0, as these "1" ratings carry more weight in the averages. At that point, I expect I will receive a 30-day selling suspension. Here are my questions...

1.Will I in fact get suspended over this?

No. (By the way, sellers are not suspended for low DSRs. They are restricted from selling for a period of time. It may be a small distinction to some but it is a crucial one. If a seller is restricted on one User ID, there is nothing preventing them from using another User ID (account) to list items unrestricted. If a seller is suspended, then using another account to list is grounds for permanent suspension. So “restricted,” not “suspended.”

Back to your question (will I be “restricted”). No. If you haven’t sold in a month, or more precisely, if you haven’t received ratings for the last month, then your 12 month average is used to calculate status. Given the number of transactions in your 12 month average, a single transaction with a 1 or all 1’s will not lower your rating below the threshold of 4.1.


2. Will the suspension last for a full 30 days, or will I be reinstated when the "1" ratings drop off? (It will probably only be a few days between dropping below 4.0 and going back up when this feedback drops off.)

When a seller is restricted, (not suspended), the restriction lasts for 30 days or less if the rating rises prior to the 30 day period’s end date. So if a seller’s rating drops to below 4.0 for two days and rises to 4.1 or higher on the third day, the restriction is lifted on day three.

3. If I am suspended, eBay says I should raise my DSRs to comply with their standards. How am I supposed to raise my DSRs if I cannot list or sell anything?

You wouldn’t be suspended, only restricted from listing new items. If you have current items listed, they are still available for sale on eBay and any ratings you receive from those sales counts towards your ratings. So, if a seller is restricted and has current items for sale, they should work hard to provide the best possible service for any sales made from those items since resulting good ratings could shorten the time the seller’s ability to list new items is restricted. This is why it’s also a good strategy for a seller who believes that their ratings are trending lower, to list more items while they can and to adapt their current customer service practices with the goal of making their buyer’s happier (which could lead to higher ratings).

Your serious consideration of my questions is always appreciated. These issues are of importance to me (and countless others, no doubt), as I wish to maintain my selling account in good standing with the "venue". Please give me the most thorough and complete answers possible, or explain why you cannot. I consider this a serious situation, one that deserves a coherent explanation.

I trust my responses where coherent and answered your questions. Please tell as many other sellers as you can about the difference between “suspension” and “restriction.” Confusion between the two is apparently still widespread.


Posted by fmc123 on Jun 21, 2009 3:25 PM

Shipping “Caps” Question

Hey there Griff,

Hey.

Can you please tell me why e-bay is choosing to limit the allowable shipping and handling charges to LOWER than what the United States Postal Service charges?
After an absence from selling I just downloaded the updated TurboLister and there it is - USPS Priority Mail shipping is being limited to $4.00 when in fact the USPS is charging $4.95.

Are sellers now going to have to "eat" shipping charges?

The response I got back from customer service says:
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Dear Frances,

Thank you for writing eBay in regard to the Turbo Lister program. My name is _____ and I will be happy to address this for you.
Starting in October, limits on shipping and handling charges will be in effect for select categories. For more information on this policy, please visit the following Help page:

Link

Sellers can still use the shipping calculator to charge actual costs at or below the maximums or if their listings are not standard.
Please feel free to contact us if you have anymore questions or concerns.
Thank you for using eBay for your online trading needs.
Sincerely,
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(I removed the customer service person's name, as I realize they don't set the policies, they just repeat/enforce them.) I guess, according to the response I got, I could list everything I sell in a "non=standard format" and get around this, but WHY?

This really isn't fair to sellers, as we will end up burying the costs in the price....
Thanks,
Frances

Welcome back. Last August (2008) we announced a list of changes to the site. Many of these were controversial. One of the changes announced was a change to what seller’s could charge for flat rate shipping in the Media categories. The changes were put in place last October (2008) Click this Link to read more, including why we implemented these shipping cost restrictions. You can also find answers to the most common questions about the shipping “caps” on this FAQ


Posted by jd9912 on Jun 21, 2009 8:11 PM

An Example of Malicious or Unwanted Bidding and Consquences

Hey Griff...hope you are well.

I am very well. Thanks!

Back in February I sold an item and the buyer was dissatisfied and decided to leave a "Positive" rating with not-so-positive comments ---aka - a "false positive" which buyers can and do leave on occasion. (He probably threw in a few sub-par DSR's, too). The buyer didn't bother to contact me or try to work a resolution. Even though I had a "no returns" policy on THAT particular item I would have tried to accommodate him. I noted in my reply to his comments that I would have worked with him if he had only asked. I subsequently added his user ID to my BBL.
Fast forward to today and this is what I received from him thru "My Messages":
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Dear jd9912,
I see you blocked me from your sight for the positive feed back I gave you and your auction said not a return Item.This is not fair as far as I am concerned because I just described the item as I saw as I recieved it. I will now buy on my other sights and give you a negative feed back for blocking me for giving you a positive feed back. Now I think you need one for blocking me.
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So, my question is: If this guy goes thru with his plan to buy under another user ID and leave me Negative FB would it fall under "Feedback Manipulation"?

Worse, it would fall under “Feedback Abuse” as “unwanted or malicious bidding” and it could result in the permanent suspension of the buyer. (It would definitely result in the removal of any negative feedback this buyer might leave with a secondary account).

A buyer who has been blocked by a seller may not use a secondary account to circumvent the block. If this buyer is contemplating this action, it would be extremely unwise. Violating this policy risks serious consequences. Feel free to point the buyer to this post or send him my way if he has any questions.


Thanks, in advance, for your time.

My pleasure.


Posted by celtictwo on Jun 22, 2009 2:47 AM

Refine Search Option Suggestion

Griff;

This is a follow-up to my previous post (7) of 18 June, which I assume you are still awaiting an answer.

As a buyer I am wanting to add a first edition copy of a mystery novel by a popular author. I am withholding the name of this author because I don't want to embarrass the "sellers" if others reading this want to duplicate my search. However the name and title can be emailed to you if you wish to duplicate my results.
For my search criteria I typed in the full title of the book and the full name of the author in the book category sorted by Highest Price first (best match gives me almost all softcovers, audiobooks and lots). I am presented with a total of 193 hits. Of these hits I am given the Refine Search choices of 91 Textbooks, 72 Fiction, 12 Antiquarian & Collectable, 11 Audiobooks and 7 Non-Fiction books. Nowhere am I given the choice of hardcover or First editions.
The only legitimate choices for me are Fiction / Antiquarian & Collectable, so I open both of these sub-categories (an unnecessary extra step for a buyer). In the A&C sub-category I am presented with the options of Hardcover and First edition. In the Fiction sub-category I am only presented with the Hardcover option and Not the First Edition option.

So, after I borrow down in the A&C sub-category to the hardcover/first edition of this book that I am looking for I went from 193 results to 7 results. To make matters worse, every single one of these 7 results are NOT first editions, which I realize is not eBay's fault. One of these seven is properly disclaimed in the seller's actual description. Of the other six I am assuming that 4 are just unknowledgeable "sellers" but the other 2 are knowledgeable sellers apparently intent upon deceit.
As a note, I didn't even bother opening up the Textbook, Audiobook or Non-Fiction categories because I know my book shouldn't be in those categories. I know some of this search frustration cannot be fixed by eBay (such as sellers selecting the wrong categories). But some of the problems can be fixed by eBay by giving buyers the FULL choices of Refine Search criteria immediately. If I was given the choices of Hardcovers and First editions upon the first search results in the Book category, I probably would have found my book (including in the mis-identified Textbook and Non-Fiction sub-categories).

Thanks for your suggestion. I will forward it to the Finding team for their consideration. Please do email me with the example search (the book title).


Posted by celtictwo on Jun 22, 2009 3:37 AM

Pesky Best Offer Offers

Griff;

I just received a message from a "buyer" about pricing of one of my items. This "buyer" has contacted me several times with ridiculous low-ball offers and I have reported him at least twice before using this statement and link:
If the Make Offer button does not appear in the listing, the seller is not interested in receiving offers and you should not try to contact this seller through other means to negotiate price or terms. Doing so violates our Offers to Buy or Sell Outside eBay policy.
What are the consequences for a buyer when reported like this? Did he even receive a message from eBay that he is breaking policy? Does eBay actually do anything or am I wasting my time reporting him?
I did put him on my BBL after the first "offer" because I feel that a "buyer" that makes such ridiculous low-ball demands on the price is going to be trouble through the entire buying process (including feedback and DSR's). My only concern is that I don't have much time to waste, if it is indeed wasted.
BTW- Even though I don't routinely use the Make Offer option available, I do occasionally get them and will not report the first offer, but politely explain that I do not accept offers.

If any member is receiving repeated unwanted email from another member through My Messages, the recipient member can report the other member using the Report link in the body of the received My Message email. Although there are no specific absolute consequences for a member who emails a seller asking for a better price, (and we wouldn’t take action on the basis of a single emaiol from a buyer) repeated emails of this type, after the seller has clearly rebuffed the offers, could result in a warning at first and suspension if the activity continues.

Keep in mind that you are not obliged to accept offers. Although a seller is free to report a buyer who is making a pest of himself with repeated offers, a seller is also free to simply ignore and delete said offers or to have a cut and paste response ready to send for every offer received. Something along the lines of, “Thanks for your interest. I do not accept Best Offers.” After a buyer receives enough of these, he will eventually get the picture and desist. And if not, then report him.



Posted by lduba on Jun 22, 2009 12:15 PM

Trading Assistants

Please Help! I know there are local ebay sellers who will sell my stuff for me but I can't remember what they are called or find them here on ebay. How can I find these people? (the ebay answer center is crap!) Thank you so much.

They are called Trading Assistants and you can find them on the Trading Assistants Hub Page



Posted by vanna125 on Jun 22, 2009 1:07 PM

Not Selling, Need To Improve My Listings

I am not sure if I am doing this right, but I am gonna take the chance of posting anyway.

I have been selling on ebay for a few years now, mainly it is with things I have laying around the house and want to get rid of, and I have been selling on and off periodically. I am kind of disappointed how things are going. I know it is all about listing the item at the appropriate time, having a low starting price if it is in auction format, and waiting for that right buyer, but my things are just not moving. I am about to relist my items I think for the 4th time since mid May. I am spending more money on fees than I am getting back on sold things.
I was just wondering what is the most number of times that a seller has relisted the same item before it finally sells? And how do I get more bidding action even if the item is already at a low price? I just can't keep relisting an item and spending money on fees.
I will appreciate any suggestions and/or tips on how to get my items moving and sold within the first or second listing.

Yikes! I do not recommend relisting them a fifth time without some serious fine tuning and research. You do not want to waste money!
Early summer (June) is a slow time for retail everywhere (including ecommerce) and even more so this year as indicated in Link > this latest Daily News story, so you want to make absolutely certain that your listings are maximized for success.

I am happy to give my suggestions but nanartchik below makes a very good offer. There are countless expert sellers on the eBay Discussion Board (and especially on Seller Central) who are very generous and considerate in giving great advice and tips on how to make ones listings more successful. My own first suggestion would be to take a day and ask for other seller assistance here and on other threads.
If you want a Griff assessment, I would be happy to do so. Let me know.



Posted by vanna125 on Jun 22, 2009 1:14 PM

And how will I know if someone replies to my posting above? does it show up in my messages?

And answered expertly by skylab2 on Jun 22, 2009 1:33 PM

Vanna,

At some point in the future, Griff will close this thread and lock it while he formulates his answers, then come back and post them here.

Thanks skylab2!


Posted by nanartchik on Jun 22, 2009 2:01 PM

Finding Expertise

Vanna, another idea is to post a general question on this Discussion Board, asking for the Boardies to take a look at your listings, and offer suggestions.

Great advice. Thanks nanartchik!


Posted by devildog683 on Jun 22, 2009 2:56 PM

Live Help

Griff,

Where did live support/chat go? If it wasnt removed, why cant I find it easily?

It wasn’t totally removed, but access was moved to inside a general Contact Us flow and is presented to a member depending on the nature of their question. (For example, if you select the option for” I think someone used my account.” On the Contact Us page, the next page provides an option for Live Chat “Chat with Us.”)



That catches us up. Keeping the thread open seems to be working well this week so I will keep it open indefinitely (won't lock it for responses). If volume picks up, I may have to lock for responses but for now, we are open.

Thanks,

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Jun 23, 2009 12:56 PM
re: Question asked by ted_200 (6/21) about sellers being suspended/restricted due to low DSRs ...

You posted ...No. (By the way, sellers are not suspended for low DSRs. They are restricted from selling for a period of time. It may be a small distinction to some but it is a crucial one.

If a seller is restricted on one User ID, there is nothing preventing them from using another User ID (account) to list items unrestricted. If a seller is suspended, then using another account to list is grounds for permanent suspension. So “restricted,” not “suspended.”


But ebay states here ... (last paragraph) Link

Sellers are also required to resolve all performance issues on accounts that are not in good standing before buying or selling with other accounts.

Accounts that have been restricted or sellers who have a lowered search standing are not considered to be in good standing.

Sellers who are not in good standing are not allowed to register new accounts or use an existing eBay account to avoid buying and selling restrictions or other policy consequences.


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Posted by babybcp on Jun 22, 2009 4:08 PM

International Shipping Settings Not Sticking on Revision

I've been having a problem on the SYI form for ages. Under international shipping I have everything selected except for Mexico and Asia. But every time I go into the listing to revise or fix something I see that my 'ship to' countries have been changed. Just now I revised a listing and saw that not only had Mexico and Asia been added back in, but Germany, UK, and Canada had been de-selected! I'm constantly having to fix my listings! Is there a fix for this problem?

I asked Rich Matsuura (Shipping Team) about this and he was unable to duplicate the issue (starting from scratch with a new listing and then revising it). He asked me to ask you (and anyone else for that matter), to send an email directly to me, with the item number of any listing where this occurs. Thanks.

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Posted by saynomorejoe on Jun 22, 2009 4:10 PM

Return Policy for Media Items Redux

I find this response odd!

"Take this for instance, let's say I sell a CD to a buyer. the buyer receives the CD, listens to it and decides he or she does not like the music on the disc. They ask for a refund and I refuse (after all, I'm not a mind reader). Do I deserve negative feedback in this instance?

Uh… maybe. But the decision – whether you deserve a negative - isn’t mine to make: it’s your buyer’s. What you are asking for is the right to sell the item, possibly to a buyer who is subsequently dissatisfied (for whatever reason), the right to refuse to remedy the unhappy buyer with a refund, credit, or replacement, and the right to receive immunity from negative feedback from that unhappy buyer. "

Isn't that like saying a buyer can buy a book, read it, and then request a return, and get all his money back! And then eBay would approve the negative feedback because the seller wouldn't refund or replace?

Not necessarily (although that is possible). If a seller is clear about their return policy, for example, how much time the buyer has to return an item, like a book and if the seller also provides a clear description of the book, with photos and any condition issues (if it is brand new and unread, that would be important information and a stock photo would suffice), then if a buyer demands a return and refund and the reason given is "not as described" (assuming no buyer is going to say, "well, I read it and now don't need it.") then eBay would find for the seller, not the buyer.

This is why it is absolutely imperative that seller's provide a complete description of an item's condition (even a book or CD).


If fact, doesn't the new eBay user agreement specifically state that if the seller does not resolve the problem eBay will refund the money and bill and invoice the seller?

(All sellers with an open claim must work in good faith to resolve the claim, refund money and/or provide a replacement item, and accept a return of the item as explained by the eBay Purchase Protection Policy.

If a seller doesn't resolve a claim, the seller agrees to pay eBay the amount paid by eBay to the buyer in accordance with the eBay Purchase Protection policy. eBay will invoice the seller for these amounts and seller agrees to pay eBay in accordance with the invoice terms.)

The seller would only be invoiced the amont paid out to the buyer in a filed eBay Buyer Protection program claim. The Protection policy requirement states:

...Exclusions:
eBay Purchase Protection doesn't cover certain types and categories of goods or services, false, abusive or illegitimate claims, or purchases where you have been or may be compensated by another third party. The following purchases are excluded

...You make a claim to receive reimbursement from eBay for an item that you actually received (by claiming you did not receive it) or for an item that does match the item description (by claiming the item did not match the item description). ...


This is why it so crucial that sellers provide the most exhaustive description and photos possible. If a buyer of your book decides to return it, the only possible way for the buyer to win a claim in this situation would be to file and win a SNAD claim. If you can provide sufficient item description and condition information in your listing to refute the SNAD claim, you will prevail in the dispute.


Doesn't that kind of make a seller into a lending agency like a library or music store, with no possiblity of making a profit from the sale of the goods?

No, it doesn't. See above.

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Posted by devildog683 on Jun 22, 2009 9:00 PM

Cannot Access Live Help (Chat)

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nope, not there.......I just dont understand why this would be removed when it was such a great tool when you have a pressing issue and cannot wait for 48 hours for a vague, form letter, email response
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Are you absolutely sure? Did you follow exactly the steps I provided above?

1. Click the Help link on the top of any eBay page
2. Click the option button for Contact Us
3. Click the link for "I think someone used my account."

This particular pathway to Live Help is open for every registered user. If you followed these instructions and you are not seeing the following:



then email a screen shot of what you do see to me at griff@ebay.com using your regular eMail (NOT My Messages!)

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Posted by deltamaster on Jun 22, 2009 9:27 PM

Bidding Agents

Can eBay do something about these bidding agents that are middlemen for international "Bidders" that would otherwise be blocked from bidding. What these companies do is provide bidding service for overseas people to bid on items that are set up for US sales only. They win the items and then collect them at a warehouse on either coast and then send the item to places like Korea.

Some are better than others but for the most part they represent a large risk for the seller in that there is a degree of behavior which leaves the seller in a precarious position. About once a month I read about a seller that has run afoul to these agents.

The most recent one is the seller who listed for US sales only because the item for sale is not allowed to be imported in to certain countries. The agent wants a refund because the item can not be shipped to the buyer's country... DUH, that is why the item was for US sales only!

So... because of this the seller will be out the final value fee and the shipping charges and then will have to relist the item again.

Now this is just one problem these agents represent. Not long ago there were numerous posts regarding a company that required SPECIFIC handling of a package which was for the most part not disclosed until after the package shipped (because the seller was anxious to ship ASAP after payment) and these instructions did not arrive for several days after the sale.

Nex thing you know the agent (buyer) files INR and wins. Suspicion was that the postal carrier "neglected" to scan the item as delivered in many cases.

My questions...

Why should the seller be forced to absorb shipping fees, listing fees and FVF on an item that was never intended to leave the US and should not have been bid on by these agents?

They shouldn't. And they aren't. If a buyer located in the US is purchasing and paying for the item, regardless of the reason, including to ship to a third party, then eBay would consider them the buyer of record. If the item doesn't arrive at the buyer of record's location, then that buyer can file an INR claim. A seller that supplies a tracking number or DC number to the buyer of record's location is covered for INR, regardless of any "special handling requests" or subsequent destinations beyond the buyer's location.

As for the other case - buyer couldn't ship the item to their buyer's country - I don't know the details of this case (and we wouldn't publize them in any event), but if the seller shipped the item to the buyer at their indicated US address, and the buyer subsequently filed a SNAD claim based on the fact that he couldn't ship the item to HIS buyer, that claim would evetually be denied so I will assume that if this case was decided against the seller, it would have to have been for another reason.


Could eBay not implement a policy that these agents are responsible for these shipments?

Not really. We cannot create policies that subject any buyer to restrictions or responsibilities regarding what they can and cannot do with their eBay purchased merchandise post eBay sale. This includes buyers who are buying as agents for others and who are shipping said items to their buyers. Would you, as a buyer, agree to a policy that restricts or dictates what you do with your eBay purchases once you receive them (beyond what you would have to do in order to receive a refund from the eBay seller who sold you the item)?

and if they go bad for this type of reason then they should NOT hold the seller responsible for these activities?

The seller is not held responsible for what happens to an item that one of their buyers subsequently ships to another buyer outside of eBay. See above.

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Posted by circa1901 Jun 22, 2009 10:09 PM

Search Issues

Hello Griff, I hope I'm allowed to post here ...don't have an ACTIVE eBay selling ID (well, I do have a selling ID (10 year anniversary on ebay 6/16) with over 1500 pos. FB, 3 - 5.0s and 1 - 4.9 on DSRs, but haven't sold since March). This is an active buying ID though, which I hope counts for something.

There are a couple of major problems with the new search that aren't getting fixed by the search "team". Several threads on various boards have gotten no real results.

They are 1.) viewed links don't change color and 2.) clicking on the page # to go to the next page in a search results in the page you're on jumping back to the top and then it may or may not change to the new page. This occurs with both IE 6 and the latest Firefox, running Win XP Home, SP 2.

I have copied your post and forwarded it the appropriate team for their attention.

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Posted by the-cash-man on Jun 23, 2009 1:27 AM

PayPal and Feedback Questions

Griff, I have a paypal question

What happened to email addresses in emails when an echeck clears?

More specifics please. I don't know what you mean.

I also have some questions regarding feedback. I feel it can be extremely time consuming to leave everybody feedback and DSR's. Why doesn't eBay come out with a tool where everything is automated. Seller can set a preference where if a paypal payment is received feedback is automatically left with a customized comment, and buyers can checkoff a list of purchases and leave the same comment, and then they can select purchases where they had a negative experience. I just think they need to make it easier to leave feedback.

That very tool does exist. It is included in the automation features for Selling Manager Pro.

Also how accurate do you think the DSR's that buyers leave are that wait nearly 60 days to leave feedback?

I have no idea. "Accuracy" is determined by the buyer. DSRs and feedback, as are all ratings, entirely subjective.

Do you think that somebody who leaves feedback the day they receive their purchase is going to be leave much more accurate on how reasonable the S&H charges were and the shipping time than somebody who waits til the last minute?

Not necessarily. The vast majority of buyers have have sufficient memory and discernment abilities to know which feedback goes with which item.

What if somebody bought several similar items and then waited several days, couldn't they get the item that took a while to receive and the item they receive immediately confused?

Should we block the ability to leave feedback and ratings based on the memory skills of the buyer? How do we determine those skills? Do we make each buyer take a memory and apptitude test every time prior to leaving ratings? I am not being glib. Your questions assume that buyers are not capable of discerning which feedback and rating goes with which purchase. Sure mistakes are always possible. (we are all human after all, including buyers). But we cannot design the system to assume that all buyers make all mistakes all of the time.

Why not make feedback 30 days and/or eliminate the ability to leave DSR's for transactions that are 30 days or older.

What about items that take longer than three weeks to arrive? For example, an international sale funded with an eCheck could take a week to clear. It could then take three weeks to arrive. If you were that buyer, would you be happy to learn that you couldn't leave feedback because thirty days had passed? What about domestic transactions using Media Mail. Media Mail can take up to a month from one location to another. Do we penalize the buyer and the seller in that transaction? Remember, not leaving ratings or feedback after 30 days would mean that the seller could not receive a positive or high DSRs from that buyer. How well do you think that policy would fly?

Also an idea popped into my head. Somebody on a previous thread asked about being able to block people that have left negative feedback. I totally agree that this would be a bad idea, but what do you think of an option on one of the bidding requirements on listings to block people who have *already* left you neutral or negative feedback. This would help stop malicious bidding as now with repeat feedback a malicious bidder can negatively impact your score and percentage more than once.

Seller's have this option already with the Blocked Buyer List.

Also lets say somebody (and I occasionally see this but haven't seen it in a while), leaves excessive negative and neutral feedback. I'm talking they have 20 transactions in the past 2 months and they've left more than half of these people neutral or negative feedbacks. I've seen feedback profiles where people will leave lots of negatives, and then they will leave lots of neutrals that say things like "Good Transaction" or "Great eBayers". This is a very small minority of eBay buyers (probably less than 1 in 1,000) but I've seen them on eBay and I think the majority of sellers would embrace a feature like this. Maybe you could block people that have left at least 10 unique feedbacks in 90 days and 50% or more of them are neutral or negative. In the past these buyers would plummet to -4 and automatically get suspended, but that can't happen these days.

And with good reason. Yes, those buyers - especially if they were new buyers - would often find themselves quickly suspended. But consider: what if that buyer had actually had bad experiences 5 out of the last 10 transactions completed in the last ninety days? Should that buyer be subject to suspension as a result of leaving feedback to those sellers? Should that buyer suddenly find themselves restricted from a large number of sellers who adopt this new buyer requirement? What if you were that buyer? What would you do?

Your point - that sellers would immediately retaliate against buyers who left them negative feedback - is exactly why we eliminated that ability to neg buyers. The vast majority of buyers caught in this retaliation where only guilty of leaving what they believed to be honest and accurate feedback about their experience with the seller. Those buyers refused to continue to shop in a marketplace where this could happen to them. And I am not talking about "bad buyers." I am talking about paying buyers who would otherwise leave a clear majority of positive feedback.

As for the extremely small minority (and it is way less than 1 in a 1,000 by the way) of buyers whose left-feedback record shows a chronic pattern of abuse - for example, every left feedback is a negative or neutral or the comments indicate a clear misunderstanding or abuse of neutral feedback - we have and we continue to take action, including suspension, when those cases are brought to the attention of Trust and Safety.


Also some questions about feedback revision. When a seller goes through feedback revision, does the number of feedback revisions stay on your profile forever, or does each feedback revision roll off at the end of the year with all the other 12 month feedback? It would lower the value of using it as you would be better off just letting a negative roll off after a year than revising it and having that show up as a mark on your profile.

When a feedback is revised, it is revised from neutral or negative, to positive. Positive feedback, and the comments in that feedback, including any indication that the comment or feedback was revised, remain on that profile forever. (They don't "roll off.")

Also lets say a buyer revises a feedback and then gets suspended. Does the feedback revision go away?

No. The only feedback that is removed when a buyer is suspended is all left negative or neutral feedback. Revised feedback is positive feedback. It is not removed.

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Posted by quackers*** on Jun 23, 2009 6:37 AM

Sending Email To Griff

(((((Griff))))))

May I send you an e-mail please?

I can do this, I can do this!!!!

Of course! Send it to me at griff@ebay.com using your regular email, not My Messages. Thanks!

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Posted by buriedbybooks on Jun 23, 2009 8:39 AM

Media Listing Flow Suggestion

Thanks for the reply re: the SYI form slowness.

The page load speed is the least of my problems (and it's slow on both firefox and ie). The real issue is the sell similar/catalog info flow. When I complained about the change before the introduction of 3.0, I was basically told too bad and not to use the sell similar function--to use saved templates instead. Unfortunately, with listings that require stock info, that doesn't save any time.

Here's the actual list of steps required to list an item with catalog info using sell similar:

Click on Remove Product Details: Book
(page must then reload)

Click on Find your product: book
(page must load the ISBN screen)

Enter ISBN info and hit search

View Results and select the matching product(s). You have to click 'show details' if there are more than one to be sure you have the right product.

On 2.0, all I had to do was go to the ISBN screen and hit 'change.' It removed the product and allowed me a choice of matching products all in one step with their detailed info expanded so I could see at a glance which I needed.

I understood the original purpose of the 3.0 version was a single screen listing form--instead, there are just as many screens with multiple hidden areas, pop ups etc that drag down sellers' listing times.

If you could forward this post along with my previous one, I would appreciate it, Griff.

Thanks!
Amber

Consider it forwarded.

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Posted by doggiedudsbydeb on Jun 23, 2009 1:16 PM

Variations (Choice) Feature

I'm not sure I'm at the right place to ask this question but here it goes anyway...
I thought I had gotten an email from Ebay stating that their selling structure would be changing. I thought it said that we would be able to start listing multiple sizes/colors under one listing? In other words. One listing with the options of size and or color choices. If this is true, how can I read more about it and when will I be able to list using it?

Do you know anything about that? Thx, deb

The new feature is called Variations . It is currently available in a limited number of categories but will be expanded to include more categories in the future.

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Posted by osp1973 on Jun 23, 2009 2:06 PM

Immediate Payment Future, First Five Free (aka "FFF"), Bid Retractions

Hi Griff, I apologize in advance if this gets a bit long-winded; but I have three separate and unrelated questions. \

As requested in the Ask Griff Thread guidelines, you should post them as separate questions then but for now, go ahead...

First, you’ve mentioned several times the last two months about implementing a system where Immediate Payment would/could be required on all listings, not just fixed price listings. Is there any way you could expand on that or is it too early to give any details.

Too early. Way too early. I can only say that it is on the map for future design and release.

The thing is that IPR makes perfect sense in the context of a fixed price listing, until the buyer pays the listing stays live and can still be purchased by another buyer right up until time runs out. However, I’m at a loss to understand how this could be applied to an auction listing. An auction runs for a set length of time already, so I’m afraid I’m not comprehending how an auction can be “not considered sold until the buyer pays for the item”. Maybe I’m missing something simple, maybe not; this is why I’m hoping you can elaborate on this concept a bit more. I’m also curious as to whether this idea(whatever the logistics may actually be) will be something “forced” on us, or something that I as a seller will have the option of using or not using.

Immediate Payment for an auction format listing could be accomplished in different ways. The most obvious would require the immediate automatic transfer of funds from the winning buyer's payment account directly to the seller's account upon the auction's end. There would most likely be an opt in/out of immediate payment for auction format switch for sellers. There might be requirements for adding an Immediate Payment feature to an auction listing. Stated calculated or flat rate shipping, for example.

2nd, concerning the 5 “Free” listings each month. Having done the math, a listing would have to sell for under $25 or over $530 to not end up costing a seller more in the end than listing with the regular insertion and FVF fees would.

That is correct.

I honestly would like to know why ebay could not just eliminate the Insertion fees for those 5 listings and leave the FVF as is, or at the very least be more upfront about the fact that there are only certain situations in which this will save a seller a few pennies as opposed to costing him as little as a few pennies extra and as much as a few dollars more at the higher end of that spectrum.

Comment duly noted and forwarded.

Finally, a question about Bid retractions, invalid and otherwise. I understand and accept that ebay can not disclose the exact metric used to determine when to suspend or ban a buyer so this isn’t about exact numbers. What I’m curious about is why there are bidders out there with an insane number of bid retractions, I can point you to two that have been referenced in the Answer Center just today, one has 28 retractions this month(their first month as an ebay member), and the other has 271 for the last 12 months(but also the same number for the last 6 mos.) I realize that not all sellers report invalid bid retractions, I also realize that many bid retractions are perfectly valid; but 271 in 6 mos? In your opinion, should their not be a point where enough is enough regardless of whether the retractions are being reported or not?

Yes, there should be. Currently, bid retraction numbers do not contain a "trigger" that alerts Trust and Safety to a possible abuse of the retraction option. There could be in the future. For now, do report those that you find that are obviously excessive.

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Posted by honeyspiderbeer on Jun 23, 2009 2:18 PM on

Media Return and Refund Policy Redux & Griff Response Clarification

Griff, you said:

Does eBay want you to make your buyers happy? Absolutely. Actively making buyers unhappy is a sure fire way to drive buyers away. I have a question for you to consider: If one of your buyers is unhappy with her purchase, for whatever reason, what possible benefit is there to you, the seller, in not providing her with some sort of out or resolution (return, credit, etc)? Why would you want your buyer (your possible future loyal repeat customer) to go away unhappy? If I was your competitor in the category, I would have two things going through my mind: I’d be champing at the bit to get this buyer’s business and I’d be distressed that your treatment of this buyer might have driven them off eBay

You asked so here is my answer:

Using this same logic, and I am only applying this to media products (i.e CDs, Books, DVDs), should I be able to walk up to a movie theater, buy a ticket, then demand a refund because the film was to my liking?

Sure. Why not? Would you agree to have your right to request (demand) a ticket refund for this or any other reason removed? I've seen this happen by the way. Different theaters have different policies when it comes to "movie ticket buyer remorse" i.e., "This movie was dreck! I want my money back!, " but the theater were I saw someone make this request quietly received a ticket refund. And disliking the film is not the only reason a person might demand their money back. Movie goers purchase a ticket to view a film in an theater because it is part of the experience (otherwise they could simply rent or purchase the movie for home viewing). What if the theater was filled with gabby teenagers on cell phones and what if your request to the manager for enforcing silence during the moviet was either ignored or ineffectual and your entire experience was ruined?

Should I be able to walk into a book store, purchase a book, read it, then return the book for a refund because I didn't like it?

Maybe. Buying books is not the same as buying an experience like a movie ticket so it would depend on a lot of variables. What if you bought the book in the morning, took expert care of it (didn't stress the binding for example,) read it over lunch (maybe you are an Evelyn Wood graduate), and returned it with receipt and store bag in the afternoon saying, "I have second thoughts..."

Let me clarify a point here. I should have done this in my first response.

The only way a SNAD claim can be successful is if the buyer claims that the item described and the item received are significantly different. So it is safe to say that an eBay SNAD complaint based on the stated reason; "I didn't like the story" would not be considered a valid claim for demanding a return and would result in a finding for the seller, not the buyer. (If anyone has had a SNAD claim with this as the stated reason and lost that claim, let me know).This is why it absolutely crucial that a seller of any item, including books or CDs or DVDs, describe them as accurately and completely as possible, with photos. That way, a buyer who maybe didn't like the story will have a difficult time returning it on a SNAD claim (if you are not willing to provide a refund on return for an item because the buyer didn't like the content).


This isn't even touching on the fact that buyers can now purchase a CD, Book, or DVD off of ebay, read the books, burn the discs to recordable media, file a SNAD, send back the original CD and get their money back.

Sure, a buyer could do this but if the seller has described the item in detail and agrees to a return and the buyer sends back something else, the seller does have recourse. Currently, that recourse is filing an appeal with PayPal. In the near future, it will be submitting a response and supporting evidence with eBay Resolutions. And, if the seller has accurately and completely described the item, then they have significantly reduced the possibility of the buyer filing and winning a SNAD claim.

While I know collectors of more rare media items would want the original, the scenario I mentioned can still happen and sellers have NO way of protecting themselves from it. I find it bit disturbing that you would advocate a buyer being able to leave negative feedback for this reason. Their opinion of the media item itself has nothing to do with the seller. And yes, I know I am applying this to ONLY if the seller shipped the perfectly described item quick and the the letter of the item's description.

Feedback is an entirely different story. Currently, we don't qualify feedback prior to leaving it so it is entirely possible that a buyer might leave a negative or neutral feedback for a seller based on the content of a media item (for example, a neutral or negative stating "I didn't like the movie/book/CD" or "the story was horrible." Although it is extremely unlikely that a buyer would leave this type of comment (which is a review of the content creators or author and not the seller or that physical item), the current eBay feedback policy allows for this possibility and said comment would not be removed based on the criteria listed for feedback removal consideration. So I wasn't so much advocating for this as making a point that it is possible, if only remotely so, and if it does happen, is not removable.

Also, I am amazed at your response to my question about what percentage of sellers you thought would use the option of blocking bidders who have left negative feedback.

Too high a percentage to ever allow for implementation.

I understand you further went on to explain your opinion, but is this not an admission that ebay was/is fully aware that the changes they have implemented has caused paranoia among sellers? While I do see the logic in your explanation, I think it does indeed point to the fact that ebay was fully aware these changes would make it very hard on sellers.

Perhaps they should reword their policy to say we believe people are basically good, but for those who aren't, you, the seller, assumes all risk.

The current list of Buyer Requirements, except for the requirement to have a PayPal account, blocks buyers on the basis of past or current activity that may or actually does indicate bad buying activity based on unusual volume of bidding, or a volume of recent unpaid item reports. Leaving negative feedback, in and of itself, does not indicate a bad buyer so using left feedback as a metric for blocking buyers is an extremely risky proposition which would alienate too many otherwise perfectly good paying buyers. Think of it as a form of mass seller retaliation on a grand scale. Now that's not to say a Buyer Requirement that blocked on the basis of left feedback but with a threshold set extremely high isn't feasible in the future. (for example, a buyer who has left 100% negative feedback for x number of consecutive transactions where x is a significant amount, say above 25.) But, I have to be honest; any buyer requirement that blocks on the basis of left ratings or feedback stands very little chance of implementation. at least in the near term.

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Posted by buriedbybooks on Jun 23, 2009 4:07 PM

Media Return and Refund Policy Redux

If one of your buyers is unhappy with her purchase, for whatever reason, what possible benefit is there to you, the seller, in not providing her with some sort of out or resolution (return, credit, etc)? Why would you want your buyer (your possible future loyal repeat customer) to go away unhappy?

Why on earth would a seller want a buyer who is treating them like a lending library or rental store? A purchase is a purchase. Not a rental.

I can't think of ANY online retailer (or brick and mortar store) with the exception of Nordstroms--who we've already established has a much larger mark up to accommodate such lenient returns--that allows the return of media items that have been opened or used except for exchanging it for the exact same title.

Why would you want your buyer (your possible future loyal repeat customer) to go away unhappy?

Because if they do this once, they'll do it again. Why allow yourself to be treated as a library? Except now the ability to keep your doors open are dependent upon whether your "borrower" liked what they borrowed.

I can understand eBay (and even you, Griff) believing that buyers should be able to leave whatever feedback they feel like leaving. What I don't understand is how you can honestly say eBay and sellers should embrace the kind of buyer who not only leaves negative feedback because they didn't like the contents of the book (CD/DVD etc), but are allowed to return it as well?

Seriously? Someone buys a copy of the eBay Bible, reads it (as indicated by the obviously creased spine) and then demands a refund/leaves negative feedback because they thought the book was out of date, and you're not only OKAY with that but think the seller should welcome that kind of buyer back to the site?

The problem with this scenario, Griff, is that there ARE public libraries. If they want to read something and not pay for it, they should avail themselves of their local libraries. If they want free music, they should listen to the radio.

And as a former bookstore, I can say that our store had banned several habitual returners for abusing an already generous return policy AND often refused refunds for items with obvious signs of use. Media items in particular have very narrow profit margins.

See my comments and clarification to honeyspiderbeer above.

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Posted by quackers*** on Jun 23, 2009 4:40 PM

Thank you

(((Griff))))

Thank you

It was my pleasure.

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Posted by all*about*horses on Jun 24, 2009 4:53 AM

New View Item Page Status

When is the new View Item page going to be the default for everyone? I've been seeing it on my own listings as a seller for awhile now. Then last week I was seeing it on everyone's listings. Now this week I'm back to seeing everyones listings in the old format.

This is very frustrating and I know what is going on. Think what new buyers coming here are thinking if they keep seeing first this format and then that format. I'm getting seasick from all the changing and I'm sure buyers are getting frustrated.

Other sellers are frustrated because they need help with figuring out why their templates suddenly are not working in the new format but if we can't see what they see there is no way we can help them. So when will that change be permanent so everyone is on the SAME PAGE ?? Thanks.


The planned date for moving everyone over to the New View Item Page was rolled back indefinitely due to the need for further testing. Stay tuned to the Announcement Board for any additional information as it is made available.

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Posted by wearitsatvintage on Jun 24, 2009 6:39 AM

Several Questions

Hi again Griff,

I have a few questions for you.

Per the guidelines for the Ask Griff thread, you should post them as separate posts but for now, I will allow it.

1st:
I would think that one of the worlds largest internet sites would have better than average programmers.
I cant figure out why it is that when I browse categories and click to go to the next page, the page jumps back to the top of the current page before going to the next one. Also, when I am listing an item and have chosen my category and get to the listing details page I have to wait for it to jump to the middle of the page before I can do anything. Which is kind of annoying that I have to scroll back up to the top to start putting in information.

Although I was unable to duplicate what you are experiencing (working from a hotel room in Las Vegas), I have nonetheless, forwarded your post to the appropriate team for their attention.

2nd:
I was reading that the LMS sellers will now be getting the "key" to best match & how to improve their search standings.
Dont they get enough favoritism & perks already? So, is it safe to say that any last remnants of "fair & level playing field" been completely abandoned?

I am not sure where you read this and if it is accurate that only certain sellers will get some "key." There is a current project in the works to provide a feature of this type - A Best Match tool - to all sellers, not just one segment of sellers. The release date has not been set and it is possible that a subset of sellers might assist in any beta testing of the feature prior to full site launch.

3rd:
With the recent downward spiral of hits/watchers/buyers, is ebay planning to do anything in regards to advertising or something to draw people back to this site? When I say advertising I mean outside of the ebay community (ex. daily deals etc.) I mean media advertising. Or is it holding off until project catalog is fully in place?

Media advertising (TV, print, radio, etc) is on hold for now. We are focusing our resources and efforts on the site itself and buyer loyalty programs like eBay Bucks. There maybe plans for advertising later in the year and early next year. That is all I can say at this point.

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Posted by crlrmr78 on Jun 24, 2009 6:53 AM

Entering Tracking Numbers Issue

Hi Griff,
I notice now that the tracking numbers now appear in My Ebay both under items I sold/shipped and items I have purchased. It's a great feature, but my problem is that they don't work for me. I click on them and get the same message all the time:
Note: Tracking information may be transmitted with a delay. Please check back later to view updated information.
But when I go to USPS.com and manually look up the number, I get all the up to date information. I just wonder if these links are not working for my customer as well. They may think that I have entered a phony tracking number.

I do not have information on this currently but I have alerted Rich (Matsuura's) team by forwarding your post to them.

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Posted by westvirginiaborn on Jun 24, 2009 7:41 AM

eBay Resolutions Question

Good Morning, Griff


When ebay takes over the dispute process of SNAD'S and INR, etc., do you think it would be more efficient to investigate claims during the process, rather than after the claim is closed?

That is the whole point of Resolutions. As I have stated many times in past responses, the new dispute process will involve human eye balls from start to finish.

The process of refunding the buyer immediately, and having the seller suffer unecessesary hardship while filing an appeal, in my opinion, is cruel.

eBay's Resolution process will differ from the current PayPal administered Dispute process.

Do you think this process is hurting paypal's growth?

No.

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Posted by buriedbybooks on Jun 24, 2009 10:06 AM

Customs Policy Questions

Griff,

I have an issue with the policy as written. Specifically this:

Note: Reports of a request to falsify customs documents only will be reviewed by eBay if the listing description clearly and prominently specified who is responsible for paying any applicable customs fees, duties, import taxes, etc.

Now, my question is this: Isn't asking someone to violate international customs law wrong no matter what? So what if that information isn't in the listing? That practice shouldn't be allowed on the site--period.

I have no problems with issuing a warning or two to buyers in cases where that information isn't provided. Buyers who are familiar enough with international trade to request a lower value or to ask a seller to lie on a customs form are probably aware that the practice is illegal. But sure, give them the benefit of the doubt with a warning.

But to completely fail to follow up or warn buyers reported for this behavior because the seller didn't anticipate being asked to break the law seems a big ridiculous to me.

Sellers who follow the law and haven't encountered buyers like this before would have no reason to put such a disclaimer in their listings. Why should these honest sellers be penalized for illegal buyer behavior?

eBay could and should address this issue by putting that information somewhere in the transaction flow each and every time a buyer bids or buys something internationally. Why put the onus on the sellers when eBay could make sure every buyer sees this information?

eBay knows enough about me to try to redirect my buying and selling to ebay.com whenever I go directly to ebay.com.au or ebay.co.uk. Surely this same information could be put to use to better message buyers about this unacceptable practice?

And while eBay is now removing the obvious negs for customs issues, that policy requires the disclaimer as well.

Why won't eBay take the responsibility to stop this illegal buyer behavior by adding some messaging whenever there is Cross Border Trade somewhere in the transaction flow?

Thanks,
Amber

I have forwarded your comments to the policy team for their consideration. In the meantime, the reason for the requirement of said text is to help educate international buyers who might otherwise assume that asking a seller to falsify customs documents is not a big deal. We considered other alternatives and decided that the item description is the best place to reach the highest number of potential buyers located outside of the US. In time, the requirement of the text may be relaxed. For now, it is a requirement for all sellers who would ask for feedback removal for comments left that reference customs fees or delays.

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Posted by lindaspostcardsandmore on Jun 24, 2009 12:43 PM

New View Item Page Questions

Hi Griff,

Back to the new store page with the left hand navigation bar (category list).

Can you tell me why I sometimes see the page correctly and other times (on the same computer) I still see the description area hanging out at the bottom of the category list? I finally went in and just removed the navigation bar completely from my listings but I would love to have it back.

I thought the problem was fixed when i saw it correctly for several days, but then a few days ago they were all showing up wrong again. When I click to go back into them or refresh then they showed correctly. Shouldn't they show the same way (right or wrong) all the time? and to everyone?

Thank you for any help on this as I do love the category list and would like to put it back. I edited my template but when I relisted it kept the old one. Even with the coding as it was I sometimes saw them formatted correctly and then would see them wrong.
We have delayed the full release of the new View Item Page indefinitely while it undergoes further testing and enhancement. In the meantime, sellers may see some formatting differences depending on which view they are provided. Further information will be made, as available, on the Announcment Board.

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Posted by margarittm on Jun 24, 2009 2:46 PM

Unacceptable eBay Customer Service Experience

Griff i am beyond frustrated with Ebay Customer Service or lack of. I had a very important issue i needed a fairly quick answer to. I tried calling directly and it now refers you to live help. I have been trying to contact them on & off for 6 hours now and either sit there forever or get knocked out of the server. I do not have this amount of time to waste. I finally left an email to customer support because that was the only way i was going to get an answer and it said i would get a response in 24 - 48 hours. Are you kidding me? I have been is customer service for many years and have NEVER seen a poorer display of helping the customer that this company shows. Instead of wasting time with all these unnecessary changes why did they not concentrate on training a good customer service department that could actually help in a timely manner?

I understand that i am only a seller and obviously we are not considered customers any more by the new regime but is there any plans to maybe have a customer service department in the future that are properly trained and we could actually talk to in person? What could i have done differently to get an answer in lets say 1 hour which right now seems pretty good.

I apologize on behalf of eBay for your bad customer support experience. I don't have answers (I don't have the details.) Feel free to email them directly to me at griff@ebay.com so I can forward them to the appropriate CS manager for his or her attention. griff@ebay.com using your regular email, not My Messages. Thanks.

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Posted by chopsueysisters on Jun 24, 2009 8:59 PM

eBay Bucks Beta Program

Griff,

On my selling ID I see that I have an 8% off discount coupon. My Dads in the other room and his account told him he had a 2% ebay bucks discount. I log into my bidder account, I havent gotten a single promo, despite the fact that I bought 9 grand worth of merchandise on ebay last year. Now I looked at the fine print and one of them is in beta. But I'm just wanting to know... Are we using the term beta to justify why buyers are not getting the same discount? because in ebay speak betas last months if not years and one of them has been going on for a quarter.

eBay Bucks was announced a few months ago as a "beta" launch which in this case means an initial, limited release that will expand over the year to include all buyers.

The other question I have is, since this is obviously intended for only certain buyers at any time.. are certain sellers getting promos or other announcements in the accounts that others are not (even if both are opted into notification)?

I am not certain I understand the question but I will make an assumption that you are asking if some sellers are receiving promotion email regarding eBay Bucks? If so, the answer is, not that I am aware of. The current status of eBay Bucks is that only buyers are recieving promotional notifications and only those buyers who have been included in the ever expanding pool of buyers in the beta release of eBay Bucks.

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Posted by celtictwo on Jun 24, 2009 11:43 PM

Search Question

Griff;
An previously overlooked (by me) consequence with the search problem reported in my post 0f 18 June is this:
As stated, while searching a one of my listings I got stuck in the non-fiction category because the only searched title listed was listed as an auction. (Try it sometime, the only way to get out of this sub-category is select All Categories, then Books again, then fiction).

There is a very high incidence of sellers choosing the wrong category. If that one title mentioned above was listed in an incorrect category, then the buyer would not be presented with the correct book because a seller messed up. How is this fair to the buyer who may not find the book they wanted because of a seller mistake and eBay's search engine? How is this fair to the seller who in the name of better customer service, takes the time to research the listing to ensure the customer is given complete and correct information about the item?

Try this! Type in Harry Potter in the search and see the results. As of this writing there are 265 non-fiction listings (gee, boy wizards must be real), 13 textbooks (could I file a SNAD if I can't fly a broomstick after reading one of these textbooks?), and 11 Other (who knows?).

I reviewed your post and your email to me with the example, and I responded today via email. The issue you are seeing is not a "search problem," per se, it is how keyword search within categories works, specifically how the "Refine Search" feature works. And unfortunately, no search and category structure or feature will make up for or safely capture every possible case of seller miscategorization or poor keyword usage.

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Posted by modelmax on Jun 25, 2009 5:33 AM

Slow Loading Pages

Good morning Griff,

Do you have an answer for this phenomenon?

The problem of very slow (12 to 15 sec load time), jerky, freezing pages gets even worse (20 to 25 sec load time) every night between 8:30 to 8:45 pm eastern daylight time and stays that way until I log off around 10:00 pm. Additionally it effects the other tabs I have open. Huge pain to say the least. Who else has this problem?

Alas, no I don't. I am unable to duplicate your experience (in a hotel in Las Vegas using DSL) but I have forwarded your post to the appropriate team for their attention and if it is found to be an eBay based issue, they will investigate further.

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Posted by buriedbybooks on Jun 25, 2009 7:10 AM

Shipping Caps & Selling on other eBay Sites

Hi Griff!

I hope you're having a nice time in Vegas.

I did. Last week's eBay Radio Sixth Anniversary Party in Las Vegas was a smashing success. I met with about 150 small sellers over two days. My thanks to all who attended.

I'd like to follow up on something I brought up at a previous town hall. This was months ago, so I doubt you remember.

I asked about shipping caps and listing on international sites. The response I got was a) they aren't going to change it because it would be unfair to the seller (!) because higher shipping costs would result in poor best match visibility. and b) it would be unfair to buyers who would expect consistent shipping rates.

Finally, and I have to say it was quite snarky, several panelists concluded that 'some things just aren't worth selling and shouldn't be sold internationally.'

That response I received confirmed every suspicion I've ever had about eBay and the media categories--the people in charge do not understand media.

Take this item: 280357804157

It is listed on ebay australia. It is NOT my item. Take a look at the listed price. That is a US edition. The cover price is $7.99. The AU seller has it listed for the equivalent of $13.63. Now imagine that price difference multiplied across hundreds of books. Sure, my shipping would have been higher, but my overall price was often lower because I wasn't being forced--as I am now if I want to list there--to pay a FVF on the shipping.

Now--for my question. That eBay item shows up in search results here on ebay.com. In fact, eBay Australia is the only site left that I'm aware of where listings still receive exposure on both ebay.com and the home site--without an additional fee.

Why is okay for that item to appear in US search results with shipping that exceeds the caps when it is not okay for me to list on eBay AU with shipping that exceeds the caps?

Sorry, but I don't know why it is "..okay for that item to appear in US search results with shipping that exceeds the caps when it is not okay for [you] to list on eBay AU with shipping that exceeds the caps."

I do know that the current policy regarding shipping caps extends to all US sellers an applies to any eBay site upon which that US based seller may list. That is, the policy is not voided if the US seller lists an item on, say, eBay AU.


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Posted by buriedbybooks on Jun 25, 2009 7:17 AM

Unable To Obtain a Police Report. What Next?

Paypal rules now pretty much guarantee that all buyers are 'taken at their word' --per Monroe--and sellers are forced to accept a return. Regardless of pictures in the listing or details in the description. The only recourse left to sellers is an appeal and that is ONLY if the buyer has committed fraud. For items with a value that exceeds $199, Paypal requires a police report on official letterhead with an officer name and badge number.

What advice do you have for sellers who have been defrauded whose local police department refuses to take a report? What happens then?

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Posted by buriedbybooks on Jun 25, 2009 12:11 PM

Systems Announcement Board

I know this has been asked before, but we haven't heard any updates about it.

Can we please have at least a minimal archive of the systems announcement board so that we may direct buyers to it if a transaction is affected by an eBay or Paypal glitch? Having those announcements deleted a few days after posting is not helpful for those of us who would like to reassure buyers that the issue was caused by eBay or Paypal and not the seller.

I inquired. The Systems Announcement Board is intended to provide alerts about current system issues. There are no plans to provide for an archive, even minimal. Sorry.

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Posted by metootech Jun 25, 2009 10:29 PM

Hi, wasn't there supposed to be a roll out of the New Item Page for everyone on the week of the 15th of June??? Well the week of the 15th has come and gone and I don't see any "new item pages" on anybody's listings except my own. eBay wants sellers to get ready for these "forced" changes they are making and they hold our feet to the fire on deadlines for making changes, but they don't do what the say they are going to do, when they say they are going to do it... and not even post to say things were delayed or anything. I have my new listings ready to go, so eBay, were's the beef???

The full site-wide release of the New View Item Page has been delayed so that further testing and refinements can be implemented. In the meantime, New View Item remains in limited release to a segment of the buyer community.

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I was out of town most of last week and unable to compile responses. I will post another batch of answers to the most recently posted questions over the next few days. In the meantime, the thread remains open. ( I haven't locked it in well over a week now.)

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Re: Ask Griff - June 2009

Jul 6, 2009 1:03 PM


Posted by kind.sole on Jun 26, 2009 3:24 PM

UPI Transactions

Dear Griff
Non paying bidders seem to be coming out of the wood work. How is ebay going to deal with this?

Eventually? By replacing the current eBay transaction model with one that requires (by seller choice) that all buyers pay immediately upon buying a fixed price listing or winning the bid on an auction format listing. The first option – fixed price Immediate Payment Required – already exists and only needs to be enhanced to function with a shopping cart feature, (in the works for next year sometime). The auction format Immediate Payment would require the automatic transfer of funds from the winning bidder’s payment account of choice directly into the seller’s payment account of choice. This is obviously a lot more complex than Fixed Price Immediate Payment but ultimately, it can be done.

In the meantime, seller’s can greatly reduce the likelihood and rate of UPIs by adopting some or all of the available Buyer Requirements (with emphasis on the PayPal Account Required BR). And all sellers should report non paying buyers through the Unpaid Item (UPI) filing process.

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Posted by indiebiz on Jun 27, 2009 7:27 AM

Bid Cancellation Reprecussions

Hi Griff, hope you had a good weekend

This came up in another discussion and I thought I'd ask here because I've always wondered about it.
Q: When a seller cancels a bid (whether it be at the buyer request, or at their own discretion) is this action recorded somewhere in the sellers account history?

No. Not in the seller’s account history. However, all site activity is recorded and stored so the cancellations are accessible if needed.

And are there any repercussions if a seller cancels too many bids? In other words, can it come back on the seller in any way?

Possibly. If someone reports a seller who has continually cancelled bids, Trust and Safety might investigate closer to determine if the cancellations indicate other, prohibited activity, for example, the same bidders bids are cancelled over and over. But in and of itself, a cancellation carries no repercussions.

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Griff

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Posted by nanartchik on Jun 27, 2009 8:16 AM

First Five Listings Free Question

Hi, Griff!

I just got yet another email announcement from eBay touting the "Five Free Listings!!" that are being advertised as a great opportunity for Sellers.

I have seen many threads here on Seller Central, and other boards, which have "done the math" and demonstrated that this will actually cost Sellers more in FVF's, if their final sale prices fall within a certain range. My past sales have nearly all fallen within that stated range.

Yes, that is correct. The ranges where the First Five Free pricing provides optimal results are from $1 - $25 and $535 and higher.

I just reupped with Auctiva, just so I could avoid the "free" listings. (Of course, I could just bet that my art won't sell, which has been a good bet lately, LOL, and take advantage of the offer, but that would mean hours of my time trying to figure out the new SYI form.)

The current SYI form is not “new” and it is not really that difficult to “figure out.” You should at least try it, even if only to explore it without submitting a listing.

Why not just have successful Sellers who opt for the free listings pay the usual FVF's? This might get Sellers such as myself to actually try to master the new SYI form and list directly from eBay, rather than use a third party like Auctiva. If eBay wants to retain Sellers, and increase activity, this would be a much better business plan.

And of course, the downside of eBay's increasing FVF's for the "free" listings is that it took savvy eBayers about 15 minutes to figure out that it would cost more...a really unfortunate public relations gaff. eBay's image is tarnished enough right now.
New Sellers or Sellers who don't frequent the Boards might not figure out the glitch...at first. Which means that when they inevitably do figure it out, you will have some ticked-off Sellers.

Yes, I know some Sellers will be better off with the 5 "free" listings, but I submit that the bulk of auctions fall with the range that will pay more in FVF's.

Why would eBay do this? I can only see it as an attempt to make back the "free" listing fees at the end of the sale. The fair thing to do would be to inform Sellers of this, and let them make the choice.

We do inform sellers of this fact. Here is how the new pricing is presented on the site:
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Auction listing fees
Your first five single-quantity auction-style listings to be listed on the site in a 30-day period have an Insertion Fee of $0.00 for eligible categories.* (See Insertion Fees for more information.) These $0.00 Insertion Fee listings also have a Final Value Fee per listing of 8.75% or $20, whichever is lower.

We link a seller directly to this information from the Sell Your Item form (with which I understand you may not be familiar based on what you have told me). I don’t’ see how it could be any clearer.


I could take advantage of this - knowing that since I sell infrequently my Best Match visibility is nil - and use up a bunch of your band-width. eBay would lose money, and I'd lose time and effort.

And I have suggested that exact strategy to you several times now (it is easier to sell in your category if you have more, not less items listed, and especially if you only have one or two items listed.) The pricing is meant to encourage listings. That is its intent. So please, do feel free to “use up our bandwidth.” More items listed means more chances for you to sell an item, and for all of us, you and eBay, to make money.

We have been, for the past two years, upfront in our plans to make listing items less expensive. This auction pricing is a move in that direction. The point is to take away the risk of listing items (paying to list them) and move the fees to the back end (a seller only pays a fee if the item sells). We will continue to move in this direction.

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Griff

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Posted by sadiecbl on Jun 27, 2009 10:30 AM

First Five Free and Relists

I, too, am dismayed with the five free listings promotion. I list with Auctiva, which has helped speed up my listings considerably. When something doesn't sell, I relist using ebay's page to take advantage of the insertion fee credit if the lot sells upon relisting (which is a very common occurrance).

I did note during the past week that five of my relistings said listing was free - obviously this promotion at work. If these lots now sell, I have gained nothing and have lost money because my fvf's will be higher.

Why can't this promotion be optional? Sellers should be able to opt out of this, especially when relisting because there already is the possible insertion fee credit in play. The only possible gain for me is if the lot doesn't sell, and that seems like a very unworthy goal for both ebay and myself. Why would ebay want to make it rewarding for having items NOT sell?

Thanks for your input. I will forward to the pricing team for their consideration. In the future, there could be an “opt out” feature on the Sell Your Item page. For now, there isn’t so a seller relisting an item that doesn’t sell the first time, and who doesn’t want to use the First Five Free pricing, should use a second party tool to relist (TurboLister or a certified provider product that provides for listing and relisting items on eBay).

Is there a time limit on this ridiculous promotion?

This is not a promotion. This is a pricing change. It is not temporary.

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Griff

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Posted by carcie on Jun 27, 2009 1:58 PM

Solution to High Shipping Costs

Despite the expansion of the seller protection to countries like mine i still cannot use eBay because the high cost shipping to provide proof will not be paid by my buyers.

Griff, do you have a solution for that particular problem else than suggesting me, the seller, to eat the additional cost.
Typical example would be a $200 item needing a $125 fedex or ups or similar shipping cost. Buyer does not pay more than $25 for shipping.

Sorry, I don’t have a solution (Neither I or eBay control the fees charged by post carriers). I assume you refer to items shipped from your country (the Netherlands) to US buyers. If the actual shipping cost for an item is $200 (because of weight or dimension or value), then it is assumed that your buyer understands this and is agreeing to pay the shipping as stated.

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Griff

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Posted by heidisthe1 on Jun 28, 2009 1:40 PM

Promotion?

Hi,

I'm a seller and ebay posted a $10.00 off through Monday. I have a couple of bids and suddenly, it's disappeared! What do I do?

Heidi

I double checked and could not find any mention or announcement of a seller promotion over the past two weekends. Could you provide more details? (send them directly to me at griff@ebay.com using your regular email, not My Messages. Thanks.


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Griff

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Posted by oldwestgold on Jun 28, 2009 8:48 PM

Posting Unaccepted Payment Options

I noticed a seller that list he accepts checks and money orders in his eBay Store payment policy yet not in his auctions. I have sent repeated messages to trust and safety and power seller support for clairfication and have received nothing back. eBay will not do anything to get this seller to remove these banned payment types so am I to assume it is ok to do this?

I wouldn’t advise it. Send the details to me at griff@ebay.com (using regular email, not My Messages, thanks.). Please do not post the information here.


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Griff

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Posted by celtictwo on Jun 29, 2009 2:51 AM

General Questions

Griff;
This may seems like a rant, but it's not meant to be. I have a few serious questions and I feel it necessary to explain my position.

I have gone along with eBay and their many drastic changes over the last year in hopes that the environment for the seller would get better as promised. At the time of these changes I was having an average of $1500 in sales every month and was a long-standing Power Seller. I routinely received the 20% discount and occasionally the 15% discount. My customer service has not changed since day one, yet I am no longer a Power Seller, hence no discount, and my income has plummeted to 1/5 of my previous average.

My concerns, along with many other sellers, are justified. I would like to believe the drastic policy changes were designed with good intent. However, the implementation has had many serious flaws.

The feedback retaliation problem was a major issue, but it was eBay's making. Allowing Mutual Withdrawal of feedback to go completely unchecked encouraged the unscrupulous sellers to take advantage of it. I've only had 1 MW in over 10,000 transactions and it was an honest and legitimate mistake by the buyer. Surely, only allowing a very, very small percentage of MW's would have been a much fairer policy to both sellers and buyers.

I do believe that buyers should have an opinion on the transactions, so in theory the DSR's are not a bad idea. BUT, it is just wrong for eBay to use these opinions to punish a seller with reduced search placement or even suspension. It is a basic concept of any civilized society that punishment can only be sought if there is some evidence of wrongdoing. Opinions are not accepted in any legal system or any other selling venue (that I could find) as a means of punishment. This is extremely disturbing when the Shipping Time DSR is rated low by the buyer when eBay has proof (through PayPal) of when payment was made and when the item was shipped.

And on this point we will disagree. Any rating system can always benefit from improvement (refinement). However, using as metrics, the opinions buyers provide about a seller through an aggregate rating system is not a “punishment.” It’s a fair and effective way of determining who ranks higher and who doesn’t based on the aggregate rating averages left by each seller’s customers.

The forced S&H maximum shipping in the Media category is another problem area. When this policy was announced, eBay set up a special Q&A forum board to take questions. As expected, one of the first questions asked was will eBay keep up with USPS rate increases and change the maximum allowed. The moderator of the forum say eBay would increase the maximum allowed when USPS rate were increased. This hasn't happened and according to an answer posted by you last month, it won't happen.

Not at least for this recent USPS increase. Future increases, maybe.

The new search engine problems will require a many page monograph, so I best leave this issue alone.
The stock of eBay has fallen to the basement. The very month when announced that BIN was the future of eBay, the sell through rate of BIN completely reversed from 60% to 40%. In other words, it seems that every change is having the exact opposite effect than eBay expects.

So here's my serious questions. Can you give me any encouragement for future selling on eBay? Is there any indication that eBay will turn around and be profitable for me again? What hope is there?

How does eBay make money? By charging sellers fees. How can seller’s pay those fees? Only by selling items. Bottom line: if sellers don’t sell, eBay doesn’t make money. I cannot state it any simpler. So although it is often not apparent to many sellers, everything we do in the way of changes to the site, is intended to improve the success of sellers. And to that end, we are seeing encouraging signs that the changes are working as planned.

Although you didn’t call it out directly, I wanted to take this opportunity to talk about the economy. I am always perplexed when sellers state that that the economy has nothing to do with the current state of their business on eBay, or that it has very little effect, as though somehow their businesses are immune to this deep and drawn out recession, and that eBay is entirely or mostly to blame for their lack of sales. This is a dangerous discounting: All business are impacted by a recession. Every seller should at the very least, read the Monthly Retail Trade Reports that are compiled by the US Department of Commerce.

Is there hope? In so much as the worst of this recession appears to be behind us, at least with regards to retail sales and that we are seeing positive indications from the first round of changes to eBay from 2008, yes there is hope. Buyers are starting to spend more as their confidence slowly rises. Summer is also historically, the slowest season on eBay and online in general but every indicator to date points to increases in consumer spending for the last quarter of this year.

regards,
Griff

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Posted by greyhoundgreetings on Jun 29, 2009 7:46 AM

Invoice Contains Paper Payment Options

I would like to know when eBay will revise the seller invoice format to delete the mailing payment instructions. Paper payments were discontinued in October, but when I send an invoice to my buyer, payment instructions for mailing are still included on the bottom (after my custom message). I asked Help once before and they said they were "working on it". How long does this take?

Thanks--Sue

Can you provide more details please? Exactly which invoice feature are you using? (Selling Manager Pro for example, has customized invoice templates.) Could you email me a copy of said invoice showing the text? Send it to me at griff@ebay.com using your regular email, not My Messages. Thanks.

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Griff

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Posted by honoluludance on Jun 29, 2009 9:35 AM

International Buyers with US Accounts

heidisthe1, sounds like a glitch to me (not much you can do about it), but for a time-sensitive question it's better if you post a separate thread. Griff answers questions in batches.

On another thread, folks are discussing the number of non-U.S. residents who manage to register a U.S. account, defeating blocks that many sellers have in place. Inevitably, they want shipping to their non-U.S.addy in PayPal.

How do these members get registered as U.S. residents? And how best to counter them, if you really don't want to sell an item internationally? It seems that selling fixed price with immediate payment required might take care of these if the seller also blocks non-U.S. payments in PayPal. But if you're selling at auction, there's nothing.

A buyer located outside of the US, can register on the US site and supply a US address for their eBay account. This would show them as located in the US and thus the Buyer Requirement for blocking buyers registered in countries to which a seller doesn’t ship would not block them from bidding or buying. If your listing description is clear that you will not ship outside the US, then you are not required to do so and eBay will side with you in any subsequent dispute filed by said buyer who requests or demands that the item be shipped outside of the US.

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Griff

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Posted by bikerhal on Jun 29, 2009 1:13 PM

Excessive Shipping Report

"24.95 for a 9X12 print with $450 shipping is excessive! Been reported at least 10 times. Seller said $450 shipping is correct, because the widget is rare and starts with a low open."

The above is a quote from a recent posting on this board. There are numerous postings like this -- a $1 CD with $55 for S&H and reportings of this to eBay for fee circumvention are apparently ignored.

Do you have any comments?

Both examples would be considered excessive shipping and subject to action, including ending the listings. If a seller has been reported repeatedly with not action taken, feel free to email the details to me at griff@ebay.com using your regular email, not My Messages. Thanks.

regards,
Griff

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Posted by golfingaddict on Jun 29, 2009 2:34 PM

Shipping Cost DSR Question

My Question:
While I understand that eBay wants the detailed seller ratings to be "opinions" of the buyer, I cannot understand why a buyer is allowed to leave very low scores for shipping costs when the item was shipped for free.

Both the ship time and the ship time can be measured objectively and eBay can and should be able to ascertain that the seller shipped in the stated time (if eBay checkout and paypal shipping is used or even if the seller adds the tracking info into the system) and did not charge for shipping. Instead, eBay insists on a subjective rating system for those two ratings and it can be interpreted quite wildly depending on the buyer.

At the very least, why is there no appeal or rebuttal opportunity for sellers that receive these ridiculous ratings?
If I ship within 12 hours and I do not charge my buyers for shipping, then why am I receiving scores of less than 3 for those two dsrs? Do buyers need one more dsr to rate packaging? I get no complaints about my packaging (all new packaging and gift wrapped items) so it's hard to believe that buyers are rating down my packing. Why does eBay take the opinion of the buyer as the absolute truth and punish the sellers for those ratings without giving the seller the chance to defend themselves or remove those unjustified ratings?

I checked your DSR averages (the ones viewed on the site) and they show excellent scores:. 5.0, 4.9, 4.9 and for shipping and handling charges, a 4.9. You say you have received “scores of threes” for this DSR. Given that you seem to sell about 3 to 4 items a day, it doesn’t seem that “scores” of buyers are leaving you 3’s, at least not with a 4.9 average. What is your 30 day average for this particular DSR? How many 3’s to suspect you’ve received and over what period of time?

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Griff

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More responses later today. I will also open a new JULY thread tomorrow.
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