I called customer service this morning and talked to a supervisor from some foreign country. I have paid my Ebay fees and cancelled my listings for Ebay's unfair practices of holding funds for 21 days. I was downgraded below standard for being a powerseller for many years. I had one negative feedback from a customer who did not pay and left me negative feedback and lower seller dashboard ratings. I have sold on Ebay since 1999 and have had thousands of satisfied customers. I suggest other sellers do the same. Ebay needs sellers for buyers and I will not participate in these unfair practices. I will just own my own shop. I hope others will do the same. I AM FINISHED WITH EBAY

Hello,
I copied and pasted the sentence from my listing, and my understanding was that the "receiving cleared payment" meant the cleared payment from the buyer to myself, so that I could use the funds to ship the goods. I have been on the phone for over an hour today with Paypal and Ebay begging to get the funds released to me so I can buy FOOD. The packages for this listing have been shipped, and my listing specifies no returns, so I expect that my funds should be in my account by now.
I have tried the representatives on the phone and only received the repeated 'you won't be paid until 3 days after the buyer receives their goods'. This makes no sense to me on this particular item purchase.
Ebay takes their fees out immediately, and keeps my money to profit from without making a timely payment to me.
I have a house full of items from my parents' 60 years of marriage, and had planned to use eBay to sell, but now I will use other methods since their  practices are unfair, and the following statement in your own shipping instructions states this:

Will usually ship within 2 business days of receiving cleared payment

It should say 'after the buyer receives the goods' to be truthful. The way it is stated here, it definitely makes a seller think that they are going to get their money immediately. I understand I am a newer seller, but the fact that I communicated lots with the buyer, and he understood there was no return, should make the funds available to me immediately so I can afford to ship and get the money owed to me.
I am livid at eBay and don't plan to use your services any longer. You have made lots of money off of me, but no longer.

Linda

I have just been through Hell for the last 2 months due to ebay and paypal freezing my funds!  The first person I had to file a claim to get paid in the first place...then she said the item was a fake and not what the pictures showed (a lie) and wanted her money back.  I told her I did not refund shipping (in my listing) and to ship the item back in the same condition.  She never shipped back the item and then filed a "unauthorized chargeback" with paypal.  Well that took over a month but they did side with me.  Unauthorized?  Please, she paid it.  But my account was frozen for over a month!!!  The second was an overseas buyer who filed a claim with ebay because they never received their item..  The tracking clearly shows it was mailed the next day (due to ebays new rules for 1 day shipping!)  I clearly state in my listings that I am not responsible once an item has shipped but nooo....they filed an ebay protection claim...well ebay protection is not insurance as you may think!!  It is seller refunding money and also loosing the product they have sent!!!   They take the money from you and not from some backup insurance plan!!!   I got an email today stating that they refunded the buyer for the item and took it from my paypal account and it is no longer frozen and my funds are now available for use!!!!   Yes out the money and out the item!!!  Buyer protection my @@@.  Sorry but I am mad.  I have been selling since 2003 and it just gets worse and worse.  I have not listed anything new for over a month.  I am afraid to.  I keep paying higher and higher fees to ebay and paypal. You have to list your item for a higher price in order to make a "slight" profit.  It is not even worth it anymore.  I am a small time seller and used to make enough to offset my kids private school tuition and get the extra things for them that I cannot otherwise afford but now it is too much hassle.  I wish there was another site that could compete with them.  I am not sure if I will continue selling.  All the rules have changed.  I am still not over the negative feedback thing: buyers can leave negative but a seller can't!   I have had more and more buyers who do not pay and I have to file a case to get paid (IF I DO)  You have to wait to see if you will get paid to get your final value fee and then relist and see if your item sells and then wait again to see if you get paid again.....Then you have to ship within 1 day or lose your best match and chance being dinged for shipping...but you still dinged for it...on and on and on....sorry!

What other outlet have you been using?  Have you made good sales?  I have tried other websites and have not sold one item. I really want to know.

Talked to E-Bay customer service today regarding Final Value Fees for shipping and how E-Bay doesn't disclose charging these fees anywhere on the website.  The representative stated that upper management knows about this, but haven't decided on an action yet.  Seems illegal that you can charge fees and not disclose them.  JUST DESPICABLE!!

Looks like we need to get one going in Florida as well. eBay/PayPal are in breach of Florida Law, 560.208 Conduct of business section 5

(5) Shall, in the normal course of business, ensure that money transmitted is available to the designated recipient within 10 business days after receipt.

http://statutes.laws.com/florida/TitleXXXIII/chapter560/PARTII/560_208

eBay/PayPal polices do not superscede state laws on commerce!

that is SO not the point and not the way a court would see it.  The court willook at the business practice not whether or not a seller "has" to use ebay.  get a clue or are you paid by ebay?

& remember to opt-out, so you won't be stripped of even more rights that ebay has already taken from us!! I have copied & pasted what I received...

"Updated provisions governing how disputes between eBay and eBay users are resolved.

The User Agreement contains an Agreement to Arbitrate, which will, with limited exception, require you and eBay to submit claims to binding and final arbitration, unless you opt-out of the Agreement to Arbitrate by November 9, 2012. Unless you opt-out: (1) you will only be permitted to pursue claims against eBay on an individual basis, not as part of any class or representative action or proceeding and (2) you will only be permitted to seek relief (including monetary, injunctive, and declaratory relief) on an individual basis.

Opt-Out Procedure

You can choose to reject this Agreement to Arbitrate ("opt-out") by mailing us a written opt-out notice ("Opt-Out Notice").  For new eBay users, the Opt-Out Notice must be postmarked no later than 30 days after the date you accept the User Agreement for the first time.   If you are already a current eBay user and previously accepted the User Agreement prior to the introduction of this Agreement to Arbitrate, the Opt-Out Notice must be postmarked no later than November 9, 2012 .  You must mail the Opt-Out Notice to eBay Inc., c/o National Registered Agents, Inc., 2778 W. Shady Bend Lane, Lehi, UT 84043.

The Opt-Out Notice must state that you do not agree to this Agreement to Arbitrate and must include your name, address, and the user ID(s) and email address(es) associated with the eBay account(s) to which the opt-out applies. You must sign the Opt-Out Notice for it to be effective. This procedure is the only way you can opt-out of the Agreement to Arbitrate. If you opt-out of the Agreement to Arbitrate, all other parts of the User Agreement and its Legal Disputes Section will continue to apply to you.  Opting out of this Agreement to Arbitrate has no effect on any previous, other, or future arbitration agreements that you may have with us."

I'm having a problem that stims from ebay holding funds partially

for I am a victim of joining ebay in the middle of the month so my billing cycle is at the very end of the month "DO NOT JOIN EBAY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MONTH FOR THEY WILL NOT ALLOW YOU TO CHANGE YOUR BILLING CYCLE" I have contacted them multiple times about changing my billing cycle which ebay does not do for they do not actually try to make their structure realistic for customer use.  I have funds waiting tho the item I sold is overseas which I don't mind selling overseas had a pleasant trasnaction tho my money will be avaiable on the 31 I got billed by ebay on the 30th even tho the buyer already recieved the item and left positive feedback weeks ago, so anyone that wants to help let me know and as far as paypal's hidden fees ebay is paypal and they continously add more hidden fees so tell your credit card company to have the transactions go directly through them you never give your credit card number tho alternate number to validate yourself.  The credit card company can have the transactions go thorugh your debit card of your bank and there is no need for access fees the credit card company gets more customers and the customers do not get hidden fees works so much better that

paypal is ebay's scam

Type in your search column of the internet "file a people claim" and file a claim to get your funds they are holding plust INTEREST for the days they're holding them. I've been a power seller for years, have 100% feedback, always have had a good record, and because a couple of people left low dsrs on item not as described - WHICH WAS A LIE - they're holding my money.  It's just a little bit of money but it's the PRINCIPLE of the thing.  No seller should let them get away with this crookery. They are probobly collecting interest on our money and using any excuse to hold it.  I'm done with eBay. I've sold a lot and bought a lot but I will NOT be buying or selling on eBay any longer because I refuse to deal with an unfair unjust rogue outfit such as ebay has become.  Used to be good but I think they've lost their minds.

Oh,one last thing,if you have a small business, yo you you you didn't build that,some one else helped you to build that business,

 these words ring out across the country to all small business',

  Vote your heart in November,things will only get worse if we stay this coarse

eBay tends to forget that some of us are specialty sellers. eBay no longer protects the rights of the sellers at all. I sell high dollar collectible items(reborn dolls) and I have a really difficult time even selling on eBay. I will list the doll, let it run its course, get very few views(which I find very odd for a 10 day auction) and then when it doesn't sell, I'm told to relist. If I don't relist, I have to pay the fees. If I do relist and I change my auction, I have to pay. If I relist and I don't change my auction, I still pay. Since eBay does not protect the seller at all, if I do sell to someone who chooses to defraud me, I'm out of hundreds of dollars. It hasn't happened to me yet, but its happened to a lot of other people. Someone bids on and wins a doll, pays with a credit card, doll is shipped and received, postiive feedback left, in some cases, then suddenly here comes the chargeback! Mind you, they don't return the doll to the seller but the seller has to return the money. How is this fair? It isn't. I try not to use eBay for my sales but, to be fair, they have the higest exposure to the masses than any other site. So, I get desperate and list. My last sale, I figured out between eBay and PayPal, I am paying over 12% in fees. That is absolutely ridiculous. The items I sell takes a long time to create. Sure, some people make them very fast and sell fast, but I'm the type of artist who believes in taking the time necessary to do the best job possible so I'm lucky if I get one listed a month, sometimes longer. So because of this, I could not come up with 25 US sales totalling over $250 every 90 days and they keep my money. Why do they keep my money? I'm a proven seller. It doesn't take that many sales to know if I ship items out I sell. So because of this, I'd have to restrict my international sales causing me to lose more exposure and more sales because there's simply no way I could afford to ship overseas out of my own pocket because eBay and PayPal have chosen to keep the money until its received. Oh, and I take the risk of never receiving the money because selling internationally is not covered in Seller Protection! Well, I only list on eBay now when I need the exposure(but even this isn't guaranteed) Otherwise, you can find me on etsy under this same username.