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steveh@ebay.com
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Aug 21, 2008 4:50 PM
I wanted to address all of the board posts regarding the expiration emails that were sent last night.

These actions were part of our continued effort to focus on delivering the highest quality buyer traffic to eBay via affiliate marketing. To that end, we’ve been analyzing our program closely over the last few months. I know there have been a number of requests to provide insight into all of the metrics via which we are evaluating affiliate traffic, but unfortunately there’s an active black hat community that is pretty effective at exploiting these insights so we can’t go into details on them. However, what I can say is that in addition to earnings per click metrics (EPC), we look at a variety of metrics to see how users are behaving when they come to eBay.com – how engaged they are with our site, and whether the affiliate link clicks lead to incremental buying activity. As we’ve done this, we have seen a big discrepancy in how interested and active the traffic is that comes to eBay from different sources.

Our responsibility in the affiliate marketing channel is to allocate our resources to best drive incremental demand to our sellers. To that end, we need to focus on partners who have had the most success in engaging users who become some of our best buyers on eBay. I understand that these actions do have a very real impact on some of our affiliates who have been working with us over the years. For that, I sincerely apologize, but these decisions are made in the best interest of eBay's sellers and the overall health of our affiliate program.

We want to be very clear. Affiliates who received these messages of expiration last night are not being asked to stop sending traffic to us due to fraudulent activity or violations of the terms of service. For those of you who received the message, commissions are not being reversed, and you will be paid for all valid traffic you have sent to us to date, and for the next 7 days.

Sincerely,
Steve
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Aug 26, 2008 2:14 PM
In his junior year, Gates left Harvard to devote his energies to Microsoft, I wouldn't exactly put in the the same class as a "dropout."


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Aug 26, 2008 2:17 PM
When I put hundreds of hours into doing what Ebay wants, only to find that they don't know what they want, and only to read in the news and hear on the news that they are changing their model, and that they are rapidly collapsing, and I can see it on Alexa, then to be lectured by them what *I* am doing wrong that is the cause of all the hardship they are suffering -- sorry, but I've earned the right to say it's them not me. Don't like it, Onelung, don't read it.
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Aug 26, 2008 2:21 PM
Where is this site that you have put hundreds of hours into? There's no reason to keep it secret now. I haven't invested that many hours into any single project since Grad school.


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Aug 26, 2008 2:52 PM
Did not finish or left = Dropout
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onelung50
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Aug 26, 2008 2:54 PM
Oh, I know, technically. But what if he would have listened to his Professor mother and put aside his silly dreams and stayed in school?


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Aug 26, 2008 3:01 PM
lol .. we might have actually got a decent operating sysytem for our pc's
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Aug 26, 2008 3:03 PM
Darn, I don't have a witty come-back for that one. Looks like I dug myself into a hole. :)


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Aug 26, 2008 3:28 PM
LOL, who knows maybe I would have been better of toooo :(
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Aug 27, 2008 9:42 AM
Too bad ALL the affiliates aren't being cleaned out. They cost the sellers too much money in FVF's. And that gets passed on to the buyers. Parasites, that's all they really are. Ebay never needed any help in driving business towards their site. If anything, the advertising and marketing packages pushed it away.
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Welcome to the gulag!
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Aug 27, 2008 10:01 AM
"If you don't ask, you don't get."

My dad taught me that. Over the years, it has gotten me slapped countless times. :)


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Aug 27, 2008 10:06 AM
I agree. Too bad some bitter, divorced part time sellers can't seem to stay away and kept the affiliate model alive.

My pop-pop once said, "If you're ugly, don't use your mug to advertise."
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Aug 27, 2008 10:16 AM
You're FVFs should be very small considering you don't have anything listed. But what do I know, I'm a parasite.


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Aug 27, 2008 6:45 PM
And whats funny, after 22 years in the computer industry working with some fortune 100 companies "no one" has ever asked if I had a piece of paper .... Hmmm

I actually got hired once just for not pretending that I had one. Said if I wasn't lying about that, I probably knew everything else on my resume, whereas most of his applicants were clearly lying about everything.
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Aug 27, 2008 7:12 PM
Do you know how major universities find out what major new students are destined for?

The put them all in a big room with a schematic diagram of a simple transistor circuit on the board. Then they ask each student, "What is the very first question that comes to your mind when you look at the diagram?"

The students destined to be scientists will ask, "WHY does it work?"

The students destined to be engineers will ask, "HOW does it work?"

The students destined to be businessmen will ask, "How much can we make selling this?"

And the students destined for the liberal-arts will ask, "Dude, can you repeat the question?"


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Aug 27, 2008 7:24 PM
I wish eBay had the corporate courtesy to give us more than 7 days notice, a thank you for being part of EPN for many years and the dignity of not sending out a generic unpersonal form letter.

Hopefully we can do business in the future again sometime down the road.

So long and thanks for all the fish.
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