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Last Post Nov 6, 2009 9:06 PM by: aviansinoil
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enginebooks
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EPC ZERO!

Nov 5, 2009 7:29 AM
Well, it's happened. A lot of my campaigns are now at EPC ZERO even though there are several hundred clicks on them. Does this mean that I may as well fold up the tent and retire these campaigns?
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onelung50
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Re: EPC ZERO!

Nov 5, 2009 7:38 AM
That would depend on how you feel about working for free. ;)


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Re: EPC ZERO!

Nov 5, 2009 7:44 AM
Your avatar matches your answer.
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Re: EPC ZERO!

Nov 6, 2009 2:11 PM
Personally, I'd be careful about throwing the baby out with the bathwater there.

During most of October my EPC was a shocker - an average of .03 with the daily EPC dropping down to 0 for a long run of days. Towards the end of the month I started to get .30+ EPC days. This rise in EPC continued on through the start of November. The last EPC posted on my dashboard is 1.13 with the one before that being .96. My average for November so far is 0.57. Whether this will last I don't know, but it's certainly encouraging.

To achieve this result, I tightened my sites up a bit with better keyword targeting, and dropped the auction back-end on one generalaized site that was getting a large number of un-targeted clicks. I also dumped some other sites for high ticket items. The keyword targeting mainly just involved adding the word 'buy' at the start of the product description in the page title, to get more consumer oriented traffic.

I also switched to generating the product links using Javascript and innerHTML (after checking that this method correctly passed referrer information), to prevent bot clicks. Also, I stripped the 'http://' header off the product URL when embedding it into the page source, to prevent bots from recognizing the link, and then added it back when I wrote out the link using Javascript. Don't bother with reactive methods for dealing with bots (such as IP banning) - you will just end up chasing your tail.

So basically, try tightening up your sites, and dump any campaigns that are too un-targeted or poor performing.
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enginebooks
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Re: EPC ZERO!

Nov 6, 2009 3:09 PM
I'm working on it and I've even joined in on the API and have one of those working. It's like going back to college!

My beef is that October was my best month ever since Commission Junction and then the stuff hit the fan! So far this month, I have lots of zeros.

I'm working on campaign strategy and I'll have to try out some of that anti-bot java stuff. I'm old school - built my first computer in 1976. ;)
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Re: EPC ZERO!

Nov 6, 2009 3:10 PM
Not all of my campaigns are at zero but since the day (Oct 28th) I reported a bot attack on one of my campaigns, it has been at zero ever since.

109 Clicks, 3 bids, zero wins $0.00 This campaign averaged 12 cents per click prior to the bot. Off to a slow start this month and will probably be slow until spring.

Are we being penalized for bot attacks?
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Re: EPC ZERO!

Nov 6, 2009 7:45 PM
Isn't it more likely that you're not being rewarded because you have zero wins?
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Re: EPC ZERO!

Nov 6, 2009 8:58 PM
No, I have other campaigns that have no bids or wins but do have clicks and they are being paid per click.
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Re: EPC ZERO!

Nov 6, 2009 9:06 PM
Maybe the psychic dolphins they keep at ebay's corporate site decided that the visitors weren't "feeling it" the day they clicked through. Just not engaged enough...tell them to click harder!
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