> > ... and I'm not sure if conversions come more from them or from Wordbay. ...
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> Use a Custom Id to help you with that. Or as some do use a different Campaign.
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Yes, and I actually have been using custom ID. The thing with wordbay is that you can't set an ebay custom ID with it. But I figured that the way the wordbay clickthroughs are showing up on the tranaction report are the ones that are just showing a page url instead of a custom ID. And I actually have plenty of those...so yes, wordbay definitely works.

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My worst day in 8 months just posted.
Last year this dry spell continued thru 9/14, but my averages were much lower then.

You can make eBay ads dynamic using any scripting language by substituting keywords in the javascript code in tool like the editor kit, b y using RSS tools, or the eBay API. Adsense does that for you, but that doesn't mean it can't be done with eBay.

I already did that. But it's still not the same as Adsense for a forum site.

You are sending them away for a few pennies of AdSense revenue when you could probably make more if you were getting them to click on your eBay listings.

Perhaps, but there are a few issues with that assumption. For one, I make 4-5 times the amount of revenue from adsense than I do with EPN. Adsense has more features that ebay does (like link units) that I can integrate cleanly into the code of a forum based site and actually appear like part of the content/site. Also, adsense can show a much more diverse set of listings in each thread, forum section or page because it is dynamic. We can't do that with EPN, so no matter how much work I put into showing listings from various parts of ebay that are relevant to the content, at some point the ebay listings that are shown within threads of one section all are the same over and over again. That doesn't tend to get people to click on them like Adsense does. I'm not sure how to explain that well, but hopefully you get my drift. (It would violate the Adsense TOS for me to use EPN if it did have that anyway). I do have tons of variety of ebay ads that are relevant to the different site sections. Also the EPN javascript banners are buggy as hell. I've already reported bugs that I've found, but yet the bugs still exist.

Anyway, my point was that I have had some good success with EPN, but it has definately slowed down. I think in my case a lot of it has to do with the economy in general.

There may be something that has changed with EPN...revenue has been very slow for me this month compared with months past. However, I also have adsense on my site and the google revenue has been steadily increasing throughout the year.

It's not an issue for me with SEO - I run a niche forum site and have spent a lot of time and effort (and some $$ also) making sure that the site is returning well in the search engines. I have noticed that traffic has fallen slightly this month as the summer rolls around, but that happens every year.

One thing I've noticed with my site is that buyers in general are just not spending money, which is what you need to have happen with EPN. I have a small classifieds section on my site where people can list stuff for sale - even those guys aren't selling anything. I've also seen a lot of complaints on my site about the direction of ebay in general - the paypal requirements, fees, etc. All of this stuff seems to be contributing to the low EPN earnings. Is this something wrong with the EPN system itself that is affecting us? I think so, but have no way to prove it. But it seems to me that there are a lot of other contributing factors to the lower income levels, although google adsense sure seems to be immune to it all. BTW, the number of adsense clicks I get are often pretty close to the number of EPN clicks.

Yes, which is why I was bragging about the 18 month run. weezee, sometimes Google Webmaster tools is weeks behind in their reporting. Do the site:www... search from google.com to make sure it's still indexed as of this moment in time. Also, make sure the keywords you are ranking well for are actually the keywords the general public are searching for. I can think of several keywords and phrases that make most of my sites come up #1, but it doesn't help much if I am the only person on the planet that searches that specific phrase. Here is a freebie site that will help you research keywords: http ://www.keyworddiscovery.com/search.html

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Last week two of my site that I check often in googles
listing, for my key words, one was in #2 spot the other #6 for thoes key words, I added more eBay ads this week #2 has fell down to #6 spot. the other has fell off the map.fell off of the map. These are sites I have had since 2003 and 2005 they are my products site I added eBay adds on. They are no niche sites, the wordpress blogs I been working on is for niche. I have Google webmaster tools and all my sites are listed.

Are those effected only seeing a drop in Google referrals. There were a larger number of complaints in June 2008 about Google dropping and/or reindexing and sites dropping out of their index for awhile.

http://www.seroundtable.com/archives/017366.html

or maybe a Bing effect? bing/live/msn whatever send my sites very little traffic compared to google.

I also have some sites on Hostgator. I don't have any band sites though. I guess i'm the only one using the wordbay I asked if it was an ok plugin and if any one was making any money using it, no answer. It didn't help me to change over to wordpress. I was doing a little bite with the Editor Kits until they quit showing on my sites and I had to redo my sites.

This has been the worst month for me this year.

But seriously, whoever told you the EK javascripts expire, may be pharmaceutically challenged.

I didn't think that sound right. I have never read it or heard it before, of course i'm not that good on codes.

I have been with Godaddy since 2007, but It was just a product site no affiliates links.