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Dec 10, 2003 11:40 AM
***Optimize your eBay Store for Search Engines***

Over the past several months, we’ve been developing ways for eBay Stores to get more exposure both on and off eBay. One new enhancement makes it even easier for search engines to read the contents of eBay Store pages and include Store pages in their unpaid search results. By optimizing our site for search engines, we’re hoping to increase the likelihood that your Store appears when buyers search the web for products you are selling.

As a Store seller, there are also ways that you can optimize your Store to improve the likelihood that it appears in search engine results.

1. Choose a Store Name that describes the products you sell. For example, let’s say you’re selling Vintage Jewelry and Jewelry Boxes. The Store name, “Katie’s Vintage Jewelry and Jewelry Boxes”, is much more effective than “Katie’s Vintage Finds”.

2. Choose names for your Custom Categories that include product keywords that you expect buyers to search on. Even if it is rather repetitive, this will help increase your exposure in natural search. An example: use “Vintage Broaches” and “Vintage Bracelets”, rather than “Broaches” and “Bracelets”.

3. Include keywords that describe the contents of your Store in your Store description. You could include some of the names of your Custom Categories. Keep in mind that the description appears in the top of your Store and is meant to be user friendly to your buyers, so write one that clearly represents what you sell—too many keywords in the description could look awkward.

It’s important to remember that eBay’s Keyword Spamming policies must be followed in your Store. All of your product keywords must accurately reflect what you are selling in your Store. For more information on Keyword Spamming, check out: Link.

We hope this enhancement makes it even easier for you to sell more with your Store!

Regards,
eBay

BORDER="1" ALIGN="LEFT"> Erik
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grayearthworker
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Dec 15, 2003 9:15 AM
i'm a novice at building web stuff so what is it i need to do to my store to get more traffic?
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bead*happy
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Dec 15, 2003 12:04 PM
Grayearthworker - read the threads locked to the top of the board titled:

"Ten Most Frequently Asked Questions about eBay Stores"
"7 Linking Strategies"
"HTML Instructions for Stores Linking Strategies"
"Stores Development Forum ~ Offline Promotion"
"Stores Development Forum ~ Online Promotion"

and the yellow section at the top of the board to the right titled: "eBay Stores Basics."

Welcome to eBay Stores!
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legendsofbatman
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Dec 18, 2003 8:40 PM
I hope I don't sound too antagonistic; however, I'm really not impressed with any developments Ebay is making on the store searches, because they are just a waste of time.
When the stores first opened, after many complaints, Ebay placed a weekly poll on the home page. The poll asked if we wanted to have the stores linked to the search engines. OVERWHELMINGLY (about 85% of us said YES!) yet, Ebay disregarded what we said, and didn't add store searches to the general search.
As a result of NO sales EVER, I finally closed the store.
Personally, I find it insulting that Ebay would charge $10 a month, and say listings are "ONLY" 5 cents, regardless what the quantity per listing. IF it doesn't sell, I'm better off flushing my money down the toilet. At least I have the enjoyment of watching MY money do something.
Personally, I have NO intentions of EVER using the Ebay store, until Ebay starts listening to 85% of the Ebay users, who said we want it listed in the regular search engine. For whatever reasons, people do NOT use the store
search engine.
What this whole thing translates to is a perception (whether actual or not) is that EBay does not care about the members and, as long as Ebay gets their $10 per month (plus listing fees) they won't care.
I'm sorry if this sounds bitter, or offensive; however, because my emails went unanswered, in regards to this issue, and, since EBay opened the door, I feel I need to have my say. I would have preferred doing this in private
but, with no email responses, I feel I'm left with no choice.
If EBay REALLY wants to optimize the EBay store sales, then, tie stores to the general search. Otherwise, one would have more luck beating a dead horse.
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Dec 19, 2003 4:04 AM
legendsofbatman...I completely agree. I made the mistake of taking the advice of an eBay employee and I opened my store at the $49 level and for the first THREE months ($150) received 1 sale. It was then that I discovered that there were TWO search engines..one for auctions and a separate one for stores. No one uses the store search. Period. I did a 3 keyword brand-name search for a particular item of mine in the regular auction search and got some 200+ hits of which only 2 were even remotely related to my product. However on the store search I got exactly 3 hits. All went to my store. The problem MEG, is that new eBay customers are lucky if they figure out how to even FIND the search box much less find the store search box. I then lowered my store back down to the $9.95 level. Being a category top featured store is useless for me since I sell in dozens of categories. eBay never answered my e-mail either requesting a 3 month credit of the store fees.
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Dec 19, 2003 6:23 AM
I agree with the other 2 others about the in-ability of ebay customers to "locate" an ebay store. However, I found the ebay information on creating links(which I now place in EVERY one of my auction or buy it now listings) to be a valuable tool, and have seen a DRAMATIC jump in STORE sales as add-on items. I now have the tools to steer as many customers as I can to my store, where I'm able to list HUNDREDS of items for .06cents with a photo, instead of .55cents. The system might not be perfect, but I'd like to give credit to EBAY for a lot of valuable HELP and TOOLS that I was totally unaware of. I NOW read my ebay store report-every word, "when" it comes. The "when" word being the key here. Email from ebay is still my biggest complaint. It's just not consistent. Not the end of auction notices, not the news letters, not the invoicing, Sometimes you get it, sometimes you don't. But it IS getting better. So, thank you for the GOOD, the BAD, and the in-between, it's a wonderful opportunity and I'm going to use it to the max. OTWOBEE
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Dec 19, 2003 6:38 PM
One thing that I did not see mentioned here is this:

When searching for some very specific items on major search engines, etc. (outside of eBay), some of the best leads I received directed me not only to eBay, but to specific eBay stores.

That in itself is probably more valuable to me than the eBay specific search engine - especially where har to find or brand name items are concerned.
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Dec 20, 2003 6:09 AM
First I want to say...I love selling on ebay....But,...

I completely agree with what everyone is saying about the ebay stores!

I opened my store and have had 1 sale, from an auction customer. I am seeing that it is a waste of time and money.

I have lowered prices for everything in my store[very low for antique and vintage items]--& most lower than what you'd see at an ebay auction...No Success!

I also submitted my store address to several popular search sites...NO Success!

I put a link in every single ebay auction, directing people to my store...No Success!

I even continually submit my url to several different discussion groups off ebay...No Success!


I have several different categories, and unique 1 of a kind items so my store is not at top of the store list when they search for a particular item.

I do have several different items in a category at one time so this does not help either.


Why as a large corporation can ebay not see the larger and long run picture?
Eventually ebay will be the loser here, as people will tire of spending money on a product that dosn't work & not getting something for the money they work so hard for?

They will close their stores and not look back! then when ebay finally decides to add store items to the searches...[by that time], no one will return to the store selling procedure for fear of losing money...Again!



Buyers come to ebay for the great deals and auctions...

The only way for any store to really have a chance is to be listed & mingled in with the items brought up in the customers first search

[Just like the "Buy it Now" items are!
[We need Auction & store items together]...other wise, after a person searches for the auction, finds an item, bids on auction,...what use is it to search for store items...We've lost that potential customer!


Please wake up ebay! We sellers are not rich! and work hard to list our items...then have no one to sell them too? HELP!!! We store sellers are drowning a losing battle here!!!

I have a couple thoughts on this;

Either include store items along with auction items..just like you do for buy it now items!

Or, maybe include say...20 auction items on a search result page..then have 20 store items per search result page.
So that maybe on page 1 of a search people would see 20 auctions then 20 store items below that, for each result page.
For this to work, people would need to see store items ending soon, and not just the store items that are "Featured"!!!

Alot of searches come from sellers or buyers doing searches from their ebay selling/buying page and not from ebay home page.

Why not include a store search text box right below the auction search box on every page buyers use?
Something has to give here...Too many store sellers are throwing money away and not recieving "something" for their Money, or are paying for a product [ebay store] that does not work! And the sad thing is...Ebay is quite aware of this fact!

I'm sorry[but actually ebay should be sorry!] for being so blunt, but I'm out of money and it's hard to keep up with all the ebay fees.

Sign me
...broke in Ebay land!

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Dec 20, 2003 10:18 AM
Those who want eBay to include Store items in the regular eBay search--

Are you willing to pay for the increased exposure?

Now, you're getting able to list multiples of a single item for 6 cents a month including gallery. Those who choose to list similar items in auction format, to get the benefit of additional exposure from eBay main search, pay at least $1.95 (3 ten day auctions with gallery). And the cost could be much more for more for items with a starting price over $10.

eBay is like a cyber-landlord-- they rent out storefront space. Ground-level shops on mainstreet, where the traffic and visibility is highest, command the highest prices. They also offer less expensive space on sidestreets and in lofts for those who choose to adopt that business model, and are willing to take the time and expense on their own to advertise and market to drive traffic to their shops.

Different pricing structures for different benefits.

Many are able to make it work, many are not-- just like in B&M businesses. Consider looking at the stores that appear to be successful-- and adopting some of their business strategies (many of which are detailed on the threads on this forum) insteading of looking for eBay to give away their most valuable comodity for 3% of the going rate.

Have you named your store so as to make it search-engine friendly? Have you optimized your store text and store categories to make them search-engine friently?

Have you got links to your store from other eBay pages, and from outside eBay? Have you managed to get your PageRank to a level that you show on the first page of Google for the relevant keywords that shoppers will use when looking for your things?

Have you developed a non-spam, eBay compliant mailing list of regular customers who you can contact regarding promotions?

Have you put graphic links in your auctions to your various Store categories, or used one of the tools described here to cross promote your items?

Have you developed a product line that there is a demand for-- with sufficient variety that you encourage browsing, repeat sales, and multiple sales?

Very often, the Store owners who seem to be having trouble succeeding haven't done many of these basic things to promote their businesses and make them succeed.

The days of throwing stuff up on eBay and watching the bidding wars are long over. And you can't just open a store, toss some stuff in it, and include a simple link in a few auctions, and expect it to take off.
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Dec 20, 2003 9:54 PM
I think, that if you all spent as much time promoting your stores, as you do complaining about them, you'd do much better!!!
To get noticed in the stores listings, you need to have quantity, cross selling and links to your store on every auction item page. Buyers do not just "fall into" your store - just like they don't with a regular street storefront - you need a product they want/need and you have to entice them to enter.
There are 40 million buyers out there - go get some of them.
I'm going to take the opposite track on this discussion - I believe the stores work, I sell consistently, move all my unsold auction items into the store on a weekly basis, PROMOTE the items, keep a good sized inventory of similar or related products.
For $9.95 I could ask for no better a system! EBay promotes my stuff, puts my name in front of customers, takes care of all communications, forwards my mail - hell, they even collect my money. I am one happy camper. To have store items show up, in regular searches may be a nice idea - however, things would get awfully crowded on those search results and would probably put off a lot of newer, or less computer literate shoppers. Allan

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Dec 21, 2003 6:36 AM
For several months eBay was doing a great job keeping our store in search engines. A few days ago I edited my store description to: "We are an authorized flooring dealer for the following products : Pergo , Shaw , Columbia , Kronoswiss , Kronotex , Uniclic Quick Step , Mannington , Witex , Balta. We have the best laminate floors at the lowest price."

Now when I search for Pergo or any of the products listed above, our store no longer pulls up in the major search engines.

So my question is, should I have some type of html in the description to make it pull up in search engines? Or is my description too vague?

Thanks in advance for any help.

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Dec 21, 2003 9:19 AM
Re: the search engines--

If you're referring to Google-- they've recently had a major algo change, and lots of web pages that used to return near the top of the listings are no longer there. Things seem to still be in flux, though-- you can read more about it at WebMaster World:

Link

The changes you made a few days ago likely aren't the cause of you not showing near the top of the search returns-- things usually don't reflect that quickly. You can find your site in Google and see what the most recent cache shows to see whether G's even crawled your eBay Store since the changes (the date is at the bottom of the page).

And I think it's very smart to include those brands in your store-- those are exactly the sorts of keywords folks will search on!
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Dec 21, 2003 10:41 AM
Siss-

Took a look at your Store-- here are my thoughts, FWIW-

Google is using a Dec 9 cache of your store:

Link

which does include the brand keywords, but it's a slightly older version of you header than you're using now.

You might want to consider using the categories-- one for each brand. That will increase your visibility for those brands by adding links containing the brand words, and also second level of pages within your store with each brand name in the title. I'd also include the word "discount" somewhere in your header-- that's a keyword that is frequently used when searching for this type of product, as in 'discount flooring'.

You've got a PageRank of 2 according to Google-- which will hurt you when competing for placement on the first pages of the search returns. Your competition that returns on the first page for typical search phrases typically has a PageRank of 4 or 5. You currently don't have any inbound links that are PR4 or higher-- You'll need to get some inbound links to your eBay Store in order to increase your pagerank-- at least one inbound link from a PageRank 5 site will help greatly-- and usually will give you at least a PR4 quickly.

If you can't arrange for some high value inbound links from outsite ebay, you can essentially 'buy' one or two by becoming a Featured Store for a couple months at a cost of an extra $40, and see how that affects your pagerank and your standing.

JMO-



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Dec 21, 2003 12:07 PM
How do you find out your Google page rank?
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Dec 21, 2003 7:34 PM
bh-

Google uses PageRank (Google's rating of a page's relative importance on the web) along with various on-page factors (keyword density, title, description, h1 tags, anchor text, alt tags, and the like) to rank each web page in the search returns. PageRank is a function of the links that point to your Store-- the number and especially the importance (PageRank) of the pages that have links to your Store.

You can find your PageRank, and the PageRank of any other web page, by downloading the Google Toolbar here:

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Your eBay Store has a PageRank of 4 using the URL with your storename, and a PageRank 5 (neat!) using your store's nummeric URL-- apparently largely from a post you made on Photo War (nice move, whatever you did!). The PR5 page passed along some of the PageRank to the URL with storename, hence the PR4 there.

The toolbar sits at the top of your browser-- pretty neat tool, and it shows the PageRank of every web page you visit. Also shows links TO that page (currently it only shows those pages pointing to your site with PR4 or higher, which are the most significant). It also has an integrated PopUp stopper, which is pretty slick. Also a tool that highlights the keywords you searched for on a web page that returns from your Google search, and some other neat stuff.

It's a must-have for anyone trying to optimize their web site and increase their rank in Google's search returns. And since Google also provides results for Yahoo search, Google is the most important search engine, by far.

I'm off to figure out how you got that link from Photo War... :)
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