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Question about insurance & shipping

Dec 19, 2003 6:02 AM
As a seller I would pay return shipping, but if you don't have a refund policy stating you will pay for return shipping, you aren't required to. You could ask your buyer to send a picture of the damage, and just refund at this time instead of shipping back. If you plan on filing an insurance claim, you'll need to have the packaging inspected at this time before return shipping.

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justabayer
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Question about insurance & shipping

Dec 19, 2003 7:43 PM
UPS will pick up the items- let the buyer know what to expect.

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UPS Claim FAQ’s are on this link:
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Question about insurance & shipping

Dec 20, 2003 5:12 AM
Why return the broken items at all? Are they repairable? If not, maybe just a photo showing damage would suffice.
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Question about insurance & shipping

Dec 29, 2003 8:20 PM
I am on the other side of the fence. I am a buyer and a doll collector. I pay for the item, shipping, and insurance. In return I receive a broken dolls, and that for a collector, is worthless. The seller is the one that collects the insurance money which, is 100.00 or more that I paid for in the first place. The postal service wants to keep the broken items for evidence. I the buyer gets a refund, that is it. Now, to me the buyers side is far from fair. And I would not ship it back to the seller if I ever did get the broken items back. Not at my expense!!!
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Question about insurance & shipping

Dec 30, 2003 8:42 AM
I'm both a seller and buyer. A photo would be a good idea. If the item was breakable you should list that insurance is required or optional with that particular item. That way if the buyer is either covered or the fault is to the buyer. And PLEASE!, if your item was breakable have the post office mark the box FRAGILE.



Also a good figure for the declared value should be the cost of shipping plus a good estimated price that the item will sell for item. That way you can refund the buyer for both the shipping and the price of the item. It's usually not the seller or the buyer's fault for the broken item. Also keep good record, as it may be need for claiming damage for the insured item (print out ebay's listing w/ picture, description, and price of the item before damage). I've sold items which arrived damaged and I've bought items which were damaged. I try to keep a cool head along with good communication.

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Question about insurance & shipping

Dec 31, 2003 8:51 AM
CONGRADULATIONS XNYER1997 You have just won a place on my BLOCK BIDDERS list....
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Question about insurance & shipping

Jan 1, 2004 10:34 AM
1. Tell the buyer to retain all packing material -- no packing material = no refund.

2. Report the damage to UPS

3. Tell the buyer that you have reported the damage to UPS and that you will refund when UPS has processed the claim.

UPS may or may not pickup the item for inspection (low value claims are frequently settled without inspection). Either way, you will need to refund when the claim has been processed.

For future transactions, I suggest you review the insurance procedures for your carriers before you need them and let buyers know what will be required. I send a shipment notification email for each auction and include basic instructions for what to do "in the unlikely event that the package is lost or damaged". In addition, every eBay package I send includes a packing slip that states
If this package was damaged in transit, retain all packing materials and contact me within 5 days
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kebonette
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Question about insurance & shipping

Jan 11, 2004 11:39 AM
I purchased some wedding magnets on 11/30/03, and paid for insurance. The seller put me off for a month before shipping them 12/30/03. I received the package 1/5/04 without the purchased items in it - the package was stamped by the USPS "received without contents" and had been re-taped with the blue & red postal tape. I took it to the post office after the seller informed me it was out of her hands and insisted she'd purchased insurance for it, but the post office says it was shipped without insurance, due to the fact that it is not stamped "insured." Seller has blocked my email and SquareTrade won't let me cut & paste a picture of package, and Paypal won't let me file a claim because it's after 30 days. Now what?
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justabayer
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Question about insurance & shipping

Jan 11, 2004 5:36 PM
kebonette

Start with a mail fraud complaint and continue with all the usual fraud complaints. You can save the NEG until after the transaction is over.

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6_good_numbers
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Question about insurance & shipping

Jan 15, 2004 9:51 AM
Now what?

Open a complaint with eBay immediately. If you paid for insurance and the seller refuses to reimburse you for loss or damage in transit, you are eligible for eBay's fraud alert and protection programs.

File the fraud alert now.

You should also file a mail fraud complaint with the US Postal Inspectors about the empty box that the seller sent.
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antrim-cycle
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Question about insurance & shipping

Jan 15, 2004 1:05 PM
I have a question for anyone who cares to offer an opinion:

I see all kinds of high prices for insurance posted. I know 100 dollars of insurance is included with any UPS or FedEx shipment, and additional 100's are only .35.

What's the deal?

Isn't this illegal, or at the very least extremely bogus "pad" money I'm seeing? Some sellers actually REQUIRE it, for their triple-the-shipping cost listings. This place is quickly becoming known to online buyers as a trick, a trap!

Next, sellers claim the BUYER will have to deal with claims, when as we know the SHIPPER must get to that business.

Any insight here? Any Ebay Staff people want to take a crack at this?

- cycle (the uninsured)
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Question about insurance & shipping

Jan 22, 2004 3:42 PM
I recently purchased an item on ebay in which the seller stated in their ad that insurance was included in the total for shipping and handling. When the item came, it was not insured via the USPS. Do I have an recourse with the seller for overcharging me for insurance when indeed the item was not shipped with insurance???? Is there any policies on ebay against this selling technique to protect the buyer?
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marcymarvelous
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Question about insurance & shipping

Jan 24, 2004 4:31 AM
hi....have a question about responsibility after item is recd broken.....i shipped a package to a buyer INSURED, as the buyer requested.....she informed me that a piece was broken...so i went to post office...they gave me forms...i was to fill out my part, enclose the insurance receipt, and send the form to her ...she was to fill out HER part, take it to her postoffice with the box and broken piece.....which i informed her of...before sending the form,i emailed her that since the post office would only return the actual cost of the item, i would refund the price of the item to her to save her time and inconvienience,she refused,so i did my part and send the form and the insurance slip to her..she has now demanded that I pay her the cost of the item, the cost of shipping AND the cost of the insurance or she will report me for FRAUD!!!!! .... WHAT do i do, IF anything????? anyone know? thanks
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justabayer
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Question about insurance & shipping

Jan 24, 2004 10:04 AM
marcymarvelous

so i did my part and send the form and the insurance slip to her..

You messed it up a little so far...

If she reports you for fraud NOW, what will you do? You sent all you documentation to defend fraud to the buyer!

Relax and fix it. When your buyers knows how it "works" they can become more reasonable.

Since only "some" of the items were broken, only "some" of the items will be eligible for the claim. The buyer will need to take those items in for inspection to complete the claim. The value of those items must be established prior to doing so. If it is a "set", you may get the whole thing refunded.

The claim was your claim and you shirked your responsibility. The buyer is due a full refund and the postage will be returned to you if there is total loss or damage to the parcel.

The FEE for insurance is not refunded, but the insurance is YOUR insurance and the buyer only paid the cost of your fee just like they probably paid the cost of your bubble wrap.

Save the correct information on claims and you won't have this problem again.

”Damage claims must be filed immediately. The addressee takes the damaged article, mailing container, and packaging to their local post office for inspection. The addressee completes their part of Section A of form 1000 (domestic claim form).

The postal employee will complete Section B, #9 and 10 and gives the addressee a receipt for the damaged article on form 3831. The addressee then mails the claim form to the sender for completion of Section A and submission to their local post office. The sender will need the original mailing receipt and evidence of value when they submit the completed form.”


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You can check the status of your claim by calling USPS Accounting Services in St. Louis at 888-601-9328.

DMM S010.2.8 Damage If the addressee files the claim, the addressee must present the article with the packaging and mailing container to the USPS for inspection.
If the sender files the claim and the addressee has the damaged article, the sender´s post office sends the claim to the addressee. The addressee then must present the article, packaging, and container to the USPS for inspection.
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