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Walmart gives demerits and deducts pay from sick employees

Nov 6, 2009 12:16 PM

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No wonder their prices are the lowest. They save money by taking it from their workers pocketbooks......

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Nov 6, 2009 12:54 PM

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Do other employers of unskilled workers give paid sick days? My sons have worked for several different restaurants, and they don't get paid if they don't work. Seems Walmart is being singled out because of its size.

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Nov 6, 2009 1:05 PM

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Do other employers of unskilled workers give paid sick days?

my brother works for the city as a janitor and gets quite a bit of sick leave/ personal leave

many skilled jobs also don't have paid sick days. my wife is a cna and in 20+ years never had that benifit. of course she's only been at 2 places in those years. she does have a good benifit package .

i always had "sick pay" in every job i worked . even when in production when just starting out. then was paid a set cost in most jobs no matter if i missed a day or 3 in a month.

but wal-mart is known to treat their workers badly. shoot my oldest was a manager there and hated the way he was required to treat those under him. They were let go if a small infraction was committed. no 2nd chances were given.

wal-mart isn't good for America , google the pbs documentry

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Nov 6, 2009 1:12 PM

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Wal-Mart is an easy target simply because they are so large, and *gasp* they make money. No one is forced to work there, no one is forced to buy there. If enough people stop shopping there because they're offended by Wal-Mart's policies, then the company would cease to exist. As it stands, many complain, but many more continue to shop there.

I hate Wal-Mart, but believe in its right to exist and prosper.

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Nov 6, 2009 1:13 PM

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Umpteen years ago when I started my first after-college job, I was paid hourly. It worked great for me since I was rarely out sick, and volunteered for a lot of over-time/weekend hours. (Long before kids, lol.) I was paid for the hours I worked, but not for days I might have been out sick.

When I became salaried, I got a number of vacation days and sick/personal days. But bye-bye to the overtime... paid for 40 hours even though I very rarely worked less than 50... not including the extra work i got to do at home.

I used to receive a small "incentive" sum for the sick/personal days I hadn't used by the end of the year. But I recall those who used more than their allotment were docked for the extra time they took.

While I sympathize with the plight of the single Mom with a sick child, and I cringe at the likelihood of unnecessarily spreading germs, I don't think WalMart is exception for not paying it's hourly workers for hours they don't work.

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Nov 6, 2009 1:19 PM

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While I sympathize with the plight of the single Mom with a sick child, and I cringe at the likelihood of unnecessarily spreading germs, I don't think WalMart is exception for not paying it's hourly workers for hours they don't work.

Thank you, that was my point.

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Nov 6, 2009 1:25 PM

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My sons have worked for several different restaurants, and they don't get paid if they don't work. Seems Walmart is being singled out because of its size.

Yes, but do they get demerits and are put on all kinds of probabtions, and restrictions for promotions?

Wal-Mart has a demerit system that punishes workers who cannot come to work due to illness. Employees who miss a day due to sickness receive a one-point demerit and lose eight hours of wages.

Employees with more than three absences a six-month period face discipline, and a fifth absence -- even for a sick day -- will result in what the company calls "active coaching" by management.

A sixth absence leads to what Wal-Mart calls "Decision Day," when a worker can be either terminated or put on a year-long trial period during which time he or she can be fired for any infraction and cannot be promoted.

The situation is particularly difficult for Wal-Mart workers who are single parents. The NLC reports on an instance in which an employee got a call from her four-year-old's preschool telling her to pick up the child, who had a fever of 103 degrees F. Despite the fact that the employee had already worked for four hours that day, she got a demerit point for leaving and lost her wages for the rest of the day. The report says:

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Nov 6, 2009 1:36 PM

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Yes, but do they get demerits and are put on all kinds of probabtions, and restrictions for promotions?

Lacey, what do you think a company should do if an employee misses more than 5 days in a 6-month period?

Perhaps severe illnesses need to be looked at individually. Maybe exceptions could be made when the employee is being treated by a Dr. for flu, etc..

I once had an employee who would be out one or two Mondays each month. Not a severe illness... more like too much weekend.

I think companies need to have some sort of system in place to discourage frequent absences. Maybe WalMart's system is too severe? But I doubt it would be under fire if not for the H1N1 situation.

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Nov 6, 2009 1:37 PM

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I dont get paid for sick leave or personal leave

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Nov 6, 2009 1:39 PM

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Why should Wal-Mart pay an employee for hours they don't work? And what's wrong with firing someone who (for whatever reason) is frequently absent?

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Nov 6, 2009 1:42 PM

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you cant complain that there are no jobs and then go and shop at Walmart. i shutter to think how many US jobs were lost to WM buying 90% of their items from China

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Nov 6, 2009 1:47 PM

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No one is forced to work there, no one is forced to buy there.

Many smaller communities have no other place to shop, or to work. Wal-Mart is, in those instances, reminiscent of the company town.

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Nov 6, 2009 1:50 PM

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personally I need to shop at a cheap store..I dont makealot of money..
If bread, toothpaste etc is cheaper there than that is where I have to shop

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Nov 6, 2009 1:51 PM

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Lacey, what do you think a company should do if an employee misses more than 5 days in a 6-month period?
I think docking them for the pay they missed is sufficient for 5 days in 6 months. From what I remember, the general allotment benefit in a full time, benefits paid position allows for 12 sick days a year. that's saying one sick day a month was not unexpected. That sick day I believe can be a personal sick day or used for a child being sick. So then you are really saying those 12 days a year covers at least one person, but possibly more depending on if the employee has one, 3 or 6 kids.

Missing Mondays regularly and missing 5 random days in 6 months I don't believe is comparable......but I could only base that on what I know of the employee missing those Mondays.

"In the End, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends." ~Martin Luther King~

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Nov 6, 2009 1:55 PM

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hrh.princess wrote:

Why should Wal-Mart pay an employee for hours they don't work? And what's wrong with firing someone who (for whatever reason) is frequently absent?

maybe instead of punishing these people for missing work....Walmart should institute some kind of incentive program to encourage them NOT to miss work.

Hey.....here's an idea. Offer them INSURANCE if they are really really good little cheap laborers.....

"In the End, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends." ~Martin Luther King~

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