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derm40
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Mar 10, 2006 7:00 AM
Hey guys a few things?

Cancer is supposedly 75%+ related to toxins in our environment. I just watched a great documentary presented by cancer survivor Wendy Mesley of CBC Television in Canada.

You can access is through this link:
Link

I also have been researching a new product which is being raved about in it's ability to remove toxins and supposedly turn cancer off. There is good information and research at:
Link

What are your thoughts on this theory of toxins and cancer and can detoxification really prevent cancer?

I don't have cancer right now but it seems like by taking this product it may help me prevent ever getting it.

Thought please???????

Derm
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dwaasp
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Mar 10, 2006 11:21 AM
Nixon started the war on Cancer & some say now, the cost +/- 200,000,000,000.
Dr. Bailor & Gernick write in the New England Medical Journal, new treatment is not helping that much and the only help may be prevention.

Cancer is, cells gone astray, & where they do that at, usually gives the cancer its name.

2 other people with cancer info you can look up is, Dr. Keith Block from a Cancer Institute in Chicago & Dr. Gladys Block of the University of California.

I can agree with the Toxin bit, if most Acid Foods are included in the lot, of Toxins.
An acid body does not allow sufficient Oxygen to the body cells.
Sometimes a 0.1 difference in pH can block large amounts of Oxygen to body cells.
In the opinion of many we should have less than 20% acid foods.
The planet we live on is +/- 20% acid also.

The body has strainers, filters, & garbage collectors(liver, lymph system, kidneys & etc.).
Some parts of these, the Tonsils, were removed about as fast as baby teeth not long ago.

Yes, some foods & supplements can help these organs more than others.
My understanding is Deep Green + Pink & Orange & other raw veggies.
Also that a few toxins need to be combined with supplements in order to be removed by the body organs.

You will see where one of the doc’s above has worked a lot with vit C & many other antioxidants.
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Mar 10, 2006 7:09 PM
I think it's mostly genetic, with toxins being the key that turns it on. They have already found a gene that predicts pretty accurately if a person is suceptible to cancer. Otherwise, how do you explain people who smoke for 40 years and never get cancer? There might be things that taken a huge doses will cause cancer in anyone, which could explain the rise in cancer. But I think the rise in cancer rates is more attributal to it being diagnosed more.
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dwaasp
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Mar 12, 2006 12:10 PM
The only argument against genetics is why people in countries with low cancer rate, moving to this country & start eating as we do, with their cancer rising to our rate(Okinawa & Japan). Studies on small groups of people can often show different results: that is why we seem to have so many conflicting options on causes of diseases every few years. Smoking has a lot less to do with cancer and other things; than food. The USA and New Zealand smoke a lot less than many countries, who live a lot longer & have better health.
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derm40
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Mar 12, 2006 1:11 PM
When you look at the work Dr John Beard done back in the early 1900's it would seem we are all 'genetically' predisposed to cancer, that is proven in his "Unified Trophoblastic Theory" I find it staggering nothing was done with this research.

So genetics to me is baloney - there is much more to it than that. We know people recover from disease and symptoms disappear when toxins are eliminated, I think this is the direction we need to focus on. Our kids are born toxic a recent Environmental Working Group Study (www.ewg.org) showed 250+ toxins in the umbilical cord blood of newborn babies - over 97 are known carcinogens....add that to thimerosol in vaccines and the air we breath, the food we eat and the water we drink....what chance do our children have.....what chance do we have.....eliminate the toxins....see the results quantifiably in the urine, saliva and hair anylysis....watch symptoms just melt away....

No MSG
No Aspartame
No Vaccines w/Thimerosol
No Amalgam Fillings
No Flouride
No bGH
No Toxic Chemicals in our home
No additives in our food

How much cancer do you think that would prevent?

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Mar 12, 2006 2:36 PM
I never said that it was only genetics that cause cancer. I do think a person needs to be genetically disposed to cancer, and then you add in toxins, and there you go. But toxins have been in the envionment since the beginning of time. The difference is that there are more people on the planet as a whole, more people living longer, and better detection methods, and so more people diagnosed with more diseases. As far as the Japanese statistic, the medical awareness and diagnosis increases could explain that as well. I am certainly not saying that we should not all try to reduce exposure to toxins if it is an important thing to us, but it is very hard to do unless you live on a deserted island alone, or out in the Alaskan territories or something. It is quite depressing that there are so many cheap artificial ingredients and garbage being pumped into the environment. But there was the industrial revolution, where people died from black lung, and times of plague and such during poor hygiene periods in human history. It's the human condition. But protecting oneself from exposure falls on the individual for as much as is practical.
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dwaasp
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Mar 12, 2006 2:52 PM
I cannot remember where, but a few days ago I saw a test of urine when young children were exposed to certain foods. The foods would be Organic, non-Organic & Processed foods. Levels of toxics in the urine would show up in one day.

One could not even imagine the kind of LOBBY MONEY$$ that would show up from Processed Food
Companies if an official suggested some kind of correction.
--Remember the Dairy Lobby a few years back--
With enough money the people making the test would change their Minds.
Diet Change will almost need to be individual. We are lucky we can still get organic non-hybrid seeds to Sprout or Grow.
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derm40
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Mar 12, 2006 3:23 PM
Even when you like in the Arctic it is difficult to stop the toxins...see Link

What I am asking is: Why are the toxins in our food, our water, our cleaners, our household items....do we need them or is there a reason they are there? Are they there to purposely make us ill? If so why. Who want us to get ill? Surely the politicians and governments of the world would be doing their utmost to prevent such things?

Well, unfortunately they do bugger all and the almighty dollar, although looking pretty pathetic these days, still rules.

I agree it is up to us individually to reduce our toxic intake but if the masses are not even told what is toxic and what is not then what chance does the average man in the street have. He's too damn busy working 70 hrs per week to keep a roof over his head and food on his table, he happily gives his power over to the "regulatory agencies" surely they wouldn't harm us.

Well, not the worker ants at the bottom of the food chain, but the higher up you get the more corruption you find and the more corruption you find the less those people making these deals care about the human outcome....we are left to die because of our own stupidity and greed.....

Do I hear conspiracy....YES YES YES....but its such a dirty word now even the mention of it causes one to look in disgust....if they only knew what the word actually meant.....

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Mar 13, 2006 5:43 PM
I don't really think it is a conspiracy. I think the answer is actually much sadder than that. I think it is neglect. It is business as usual. It is poor prioritizing. I don't think anyone sets out to do harm, the sheer number of people on the planet makes it impossible to control. But I agree, I think lobbying by corporations should be illegal. I think our country would be best served if it was seen as tampering with votes and laws. But the chances of it being fixed in the next 5 generations is slim to none. Unless there is a giant disaster or something. That's why I recommend trying to just focus on limiting what you can yourself, and your family. Start locally. Organic is catching on, and other countries are steadfastly refusing U.S. food products and seed.
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Mar 13, 2006 11:04 PM
There are a lot of problems in this world; but there are millions of combination of answers.
To find the right answer is almost like hitting the lottery; anyways in many cases.
The CELLS in ones body can work miracles if giving the right raw materials.
To ask somebody about what one can do, will get you more answers than one would ever want to read.
If problem is not caused by mechanical circuitry(& seldom is) one could try something before the drugs.
One would want to start with a look at nutrient deficiencies & toxic loads(cutting down on all possible).
For toxic loads one would want nutrients friendly to the liver & lymph system.
For healthy nutrients one would want to take a look back through time to make the best guess one could at what the body may have adapted to & how they were prepared.

Symptoms of something going wrong is:
Weight problems
Depression
Infections
Digestion
Skin problems
Fatigue
Pain
Sleep
Allergies
Behavior
ETC..

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Mar 15, 2006 12:18 AM
its not just foods though.. petroleum, is a baddy, baby powder due to the talc is another..

The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower.
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derm40
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Mar 15, 2006 12:29 AM
OK...I just purchased some of the Natural Cellular Defense from the www.ToxinFreeLifestyle.com website.

(Best to sign up as pref customer to get lower price)

If this stuff can do what it claims, it is going to be very powerful indeeed.

There are great audio file links on the site also, may I suggest you have a listen.

Anyway, I will detox for the next couple of months and this thread is still alive I will let youknow how I feel.

Not really sure how I would feel? I feel pretty good now and I have not even started.

I have amalgam fillings though so I know there is mercury build up in there and there has to be aluminum and arsenic among others.

I need to get them out.

Has anyone ever done other forms of detox?

I have done the Lemonade Detox once last year...was OK but bowel never moved.....got worried after 8 days and stopped.

Time to spring clean the body...

Derm
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Mar 15, 2006 5:11 AM
Derm,
I am getting my mercury fillings removed on March 27th. Have had them since I was 19, now I am 43! Just a few weeks after I got them, I started having horrible headaches that lasted for days with no end. This went on for a couple of years and then they slowly went away. At the time, I didn't know about the toxicity of amalgam fillings, but now I wonder if it there was a connection. WIll be glad to be rid of them. My dentist has had training on how to safely remove amalgams. My previous dentist just started drilling them out, with no precautions at all, that is more dangerous than leaving them in there! They are also going to tell me what supplements to take to rid my body of mercury.
I think aside from all the processed food people eat, the polluted air we breathe, the chemicals we use all around us, STRESS is a major contributor. Stress is bad for the immune system and life is getting more stressful all the time. A lot of people work longer hours, commute longer, the daily dose of bad news and fear mongering etc. etc.
I am always amazed that not all of us get cancer!

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Apr 19, 2006 9:02 AM
Hi Derm, I would love to know how your detox is going. I just signed up with the company that sells Natural Cellular Defense. I had a friend in the company that has had some amazing results with it and with her cancer.

I'm waiting for the products to come amd I'm going to detox myself too. I do not have cancer myself but I have not taken great care of myself in my younger years.

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Apr 19, 2006 9:44 AM
Hi

My detox is going very well.

I really like the product, it is easy to take. I really feel like my thinking is clearer. I definitely do not need as much sleep, but my overall health to begin with was pretty good, so I had no real health challenges to overcome.

A tip from Dr Lyn Hanshew at www.NCDTest.com where she checks your toxic loads via urine challenge tests, is take 1 gram of Vitamin C with 8oz water each time you take your drops. This allows better cell permeability and enhanced detoxification.

Best wishes
Derm40
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