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volcatius19
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Re: suggestions to eBay on improving int'l trading

Oct 10, 2004 2:43 AM
A very easy solution to make international payments with PayPal safer:

Let buyers opt out of the "Buyer Complaint Process".

If a buyer pays via PP banktransfer, it would be as safe as a money order, a bank transfer or wire transfer.

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*wildwood*flower*
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Re: suggestions to eBay on improving int'l trading

Oct 10, 2004 5:41 AM
This has been said before but I repeat it for emphasis: Allow longer than 30 days for the Paypal complaint process for international sales. I've had packages arrive as late as 4 months. Sixty days would probably be a better figure.
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sklaus42
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Re: suggestions to eBay on improving int'l trading

Oct 21, 2004 10:12 PM
Hi I am looking for any parts/literature etc. for a 1958 Mercedes Benz 300d sedan and would like to extend my search worldwide (or a group of countries) - is there a way to do this - without searching each country? That would help MY international trade.
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volcatius19
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Re: suggestions to eBay on improving int'l trading

Oct 22, 2004 3:49 AM
Use
Advanced search
/More search options
/Location: Items available to United States

I wonder why ebay.com has no "search worldwide" button like ebay.de?
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sklaus42
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Re: suggestions to eBay on improving int'l trading

Oct 22, 2004 12:58 PM
Thanks for the reply - I just bought items from the UK PayPal seems to work great. Also bought many items from other (european) countries - there is a great amount of trust necessary. It helps me that I maintain a checking account at a Bank in Munich and money transfers (Uberweisung) are both cheap and quick - however no guarantees that you will get the merchandise. So far I have not had any problems with vendors from european countries. I do go through the thought process: would it hurt me if I lost the money? If the answer is: not really - I go ahead (I loose more money at the Casinos and a speeding ticket than most ebay transactions.
The suggestion to use: available to the US in Advanced Search - is too limiting for me. I have been able to talk to sellers in other countries and found a way to get these items someway.
I used to work in the International Trade Dept. of a very large German Bank. The amount of International Trade that happens is staggering. The amounts are staggering - yet it happens - works with safeguards - all the time.
The problem here would be to apply these methods for these small amounts speedily - cheap - and safe.
Why don't you (EBay) get a small group together - research this subject - and implement it. As a former international banker - knowing the european system well - I volunteer. Chats are a great tool - but they mean little until the ideas are put into effect.
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merry-j-wanna
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Re: suggestions to eBay on improving int'l trading

Oct 22, 2004 6:09 PM
Paypal needs to increase the time in which an international buyer can file a complaint


maybe if we post it enought times they will listen!

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*wildwood*flower*
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Re: suggestions to eBay on improving int'l trading

Oct 23, 2004 6:08 AM
Have they listened to anybody's suggestions, EVER? I'd like to see a case in point in case they have and I missed it.
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onlyoddsnsods
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Re: suggestions to eBay on improving int'l trading

Oct 23, 2004 11:07 AM
Hi to the us traders ...........well uk now have a problem which ebay to date seems not top have addressed, \
please read , bare in mind only approx 1 % of sales go missing!
eBay UK: Royal Mail's recently revised Compensation

Following on from the lively discussion on another thread (Refunds to buyers - a warning'), I thought that it would be extremely interesting to gather views on the Royal Mail's (RM) recently policy revisions and tightening up on existing rules on paying out compensation for lost and broken items. This has been implemented (according to the person that I spoke to when I phoned Postwatch, the 'watchdog' body overseeing the RM) to cut costs at the RM.

To aid the debate, this is the recently revised policy as explained to me by the RM Customer Services Operative (RMCSO) whom I phoned, and was subsequently verified by Postwatch:

1) A sender can only claim for the price THAT THEY PAID for the item, ie the sender paid for it (tightened-up rule).

2) If the recipient makes the claim they can claim for the SALE COST of the item. (The RM do not publicize this fact for obvious reasons - I happened to know that this was the case. The RMCSO did not volunteer this information, but did confirm it). However ...

3) If the sender authorizes the recipient to make the compensation claim by sending them the Certificate of Posting and other necessary documentation, the RM are within their rights to refuse to deal with the recipient (at their discretion) and insist that they deal with the sender. (Unknown whether this is new policy or not)

4) No postage costs will be refunded (Recent Rule - Postwatch informed of this some three months ago)

It would be fascinating to see what eBayer's (both buyers and sellers) recent experiences are on the implementation of these policies, if only to gauge what is actually happening at the Royal Mail Nationwide, since my recent experience of how they implement these policies varied significantly between cases.

Sellers:

Have you had a package go missing / got broken recently (say in the past month or two), and if so what price did you claim for compensation purposes?

If you claimed for sale price, were you compensated for to full sale price or did you receive a letter (as I was in one case, but not in another) asking for proof of the price that YOU paid for the item?

I would also be extremely interested in knowing what seller's refund policies are and if they are going to change them now that the Royal Mail are no longer refunding postage.

For example, do you (at present) refund fully including P&P (as I have done untill these new RM policy changes)? Do you hold back untill you get compensation from RM? If RM refunded only the price that you paid - do you then refund the sale price to the customer (which means that RM have effectively vetoed the deal you made with the customer since the profit you made has been refuded)? Do you assist the customer to make the claim?

Buyers:

Given the RM's recent policy of not refunding postage, would you be satisfied if you were refunded only your full sale price but not your P&P? Would you be prepared to wait untill the RM had sent compensation to the seller? If the seller had a policy that he would refund only what he recouped from the RM, would you be satisfied - or would you prefer to make the claim yourself if the seller supplied you with the necessary documentation? Should all sellers display their refund policy in their listings, and if so, would you be put off from bidding if they did not offer instant refunds?

I realise that I may be playing with a hornet's nest here, but I think that this is the right forum to discuss and gauge opinion on these important issues which are bound to affect our interests here on eBay.
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oldjimmy
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Re: suggestions to eBay on improving int'l trading

Oct 23, 2004 11:55 AM
Hello Tim
I am situated in UK, and have ben selling on eBay for over seven years, I have one important problem regarding International trading.
When I started most of my buyers were from the US, these have got fewer and fewer. One problem is the weaker Dollar. ..... BUT more important is the differences in classifications between eBay.com and eBay.UK.
Put it Simply - buyers in the US have to SEARCH for items, they are not likely to find them just surfing, because the Classifications (Coins) are so different.
I hope you can understand this, PLEASE Tim it is important.
Why can't Classifications be the SAME in different Countries ?
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pyuthan
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Re: suggestions to eBay on improving int'l trading

Oct 24, 2004 11:57 PM
I work with a power seller in Russia with a 99.6% FB rating, but he still can't get a PayPal account. I would be happy to sponsor him and provide my bank account, but apparently this is also forbidden.

Without PayPal, international sales can really rack up excessive surcharges, especially for low-cost items. Ebay won't be truly international until these barriers are lowered.
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twocapes
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Re: suggestions to eBay on improving int'l trading

Oct 25, 2004 6:26 AM
Hi Tim -

I am a US seller that does a lot of international business. I am seriously considering limiting my auctions to US buyers only. I recently had a buyers claim logged against me for non delivery of goods. The woman I spoke to on the Paypal customer service line was absolutely rude! She implied that I am trying to cheat my buyer. I explained that I can get a copy of the customs form, and I have my postal receipt for shipment. She told me that wasn't enough, that I had shipped to an unconfirmed address, and I can't prove what I shipped.
1)I don't have time or the inclination to mail any thing other than the item that was purchased. Not every seller is a rip off artist. Most of us are trying to run a legitimate business
2)All international addresses are unconfirmed!
3)The outrageous fees charged for international transactions!
4) The total lack of seller protection!
5) I cannot control how long it takes to clear customs! This dude will probably receive his item after paypal has taken the money away from me!

Is there anyone else who has decided to limit their auctions?
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Re: suggestions to eBay on improving int'l trading

Oct 25, 2004 7:53 AM
twocapes

I hope you don't stop selling internationally because of this.

Paypal and EBAY - I will say this again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Paypal needs to extend the number of days from 30 to 60 or 90 for international claims.......

30 days is JUST NOT ENOUGH TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Re: suggestions to eBay on improving int'l trading

Oct 25, 2004 5:23 PM
This is just so TYPICAL of Ebay. The put something up like this and then they go off and never look at it again. Or they stop by now and then and say something useless to convince us that they are really paying attention.

Seems to me that if somebody could figure out how to put up a viable alternative to Paypal that would work internationally, they might make some serious money.
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tim@ebay.com
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Re: suggestions to eBay on improving int'l trading

Oct 25, 2004 6:07 PM
*wildwood*flower* - I suspect that anything I say will be taken with a grain of salt, but I am earnestly asking for your suggestions in order to improve global trading and we have been actively working on some of the suggestions that were posted on this board. I'll keep coming back to read posts and post back where appropriate. Thanks again for everyone's thoughts so far.
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Re: suggestions to eBay on improving int'l trading

Oct 25, 2004 10:34 PM
Tim, Tim, Tim ... I find it hard to believe, no matter how earnest you may be, that Ebay is interested in anything but profit margins. The customer is always right ... as long as they are paying for it.
Well let me give you a tip that may just help Ebay's share price (and your 401k).
GIVE SELLERS SECURITY AT A REASONABLE PRICE ON GLOBAL TRANSACTIONS.
This is a PayPal problem - as experienced by myself recently as follows:
1. CONFIRMED foreign buyer won two separate auctions.
2. Buyer received and left feedback for both items.
3. Buyer charges back second item, claiming fraudulent use of her credit card!!!!!! (Who the hell left the feedback then!?)
4. Paypal refuses to view this as a fraudulent claim.

Why did this happen?
I'm so friggin glad you asked Tim!
Shipping costs are a major factor in international transactions. Combine this with the extra cost of tracking ($30+ USPS) and you've got a surefire formula for decreased International sales transactions.
As a result Ebay will never be able to fully take advantage of global transactions.
Because I did not have an international tracking number (even though I had the postal receipt and customs form) I am S.O.L! This, despite the obvious fraudulent claim by the buyer.
PAYPAL MUST PROVIDER SELLERS TO FOREIGN BUYERS SOME PROTECTION!!!!! Until then - we will continue to go elsewhere for secure international payments, and so will our fees! In short Tim - YOU LOSE!
Best of luck selling that to your superiors! - not to worry, I heard Google's hiring;)
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