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Returns??? How about re-thinking this policy change!

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Returns??? How about re-thinking this policy change!
Jul 12, 2011 09:50 AM
Thanks Ebay for once again protecting Sellers! NOT! I've been a member since November 1997, and since that time every change of policy has been another noose around the neck of sellers! If sellers are that bad, how about getting rid or suspending the bad ones, or doing a better job weeding out the scammers. As for scammers, that includes buyers also! Over the last year, I have had my share of non-paying buyers... worrying that I have to bend over backwards not to offend them or risk negative feedback... which I can not give to them. And as for "non-payer" buyer strikes... I know at least one buyer who must have 3 now, and they are still active on Ebay!!! When I ask about buyer non-payment status, Ebay's policy is that they cannot disclose it... but when negative feedback against buyers was available, at least I knew what I was dealing with... or rather who I do not want to deal with. Fast forward to the proposed "Returns" changes. I assume "cash back" is through paypal? ... so it is misleading to call it "cash back". Second, doing away with a time limit... what if a buyer decides they can purchase a similar item cheaper, or has buyer's remorse? I have been offering returns since I started selling on Ebay, with two stipulations... (1) Item is received in the same condition it was mailed off as... which is pretty hard to defend if a buyer returns an item 14-30 days after the purchase (will eBay keep the photos posted?), and (2) Returns are only accepted if it was not described accurately. I still want to stick to this policy, but it seems the changes will be detrimental if I do! How about thinking these changes out before shoving them down our throats? Having a discussion is mute since you already have decided to implement them! Who comes up with these changes????
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Returns??? How about re-thinking this policy change!

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Returns??? How about re-thinking this policy change!
Jul 12, 2011 09:50 AM
Thanks Ebay for once again protecting Sellers! NOT! I've been a member since November 1997, and since that time every change of policy has been another noose around the neck of sellers! If sellers are that bad, how about getting rid or suspending the bad ones, or doing a better job weeding out the scammers. As for scammers, that includes buyers also! Over the last year, I have had my share of non-paying buyers... worrying that I have to bend over backwards not to offend them or risk negative feedback... which I can not give to them. And as for "non-payer" buyer strikes... I know at least one buyer who must have 3 now, and they are still active on Ebay!!! When I ask about buyer non-payment status, Ebay's policy is that they cannot disclose it... but when negative feedback against buyers was available, at least I knew what I was dealing with... or rather who I do not want to deal with. Fast forward to the proposed "Returns" changes. I assume "cash back" is through paypal? ... so it is misleading to call it "cash back". Second, doing away with a time limit... what if a buyer decides they can purchase a similar item cheaper, or has buyer's remorse? I have been offering returns since I started selling on Ebay, with two stipulations... (1) Item is received in the same condition it was mailed off as... which is pretty hard to defend if a buyer returns an item 14-30 days after the purchase (will eBay keep the photos posted?), and (2) Returns are only accepted if it was not described accurately. I still want to stick to this policy, but it seems the changes will be detrimental if I do! How about thinking these changes out before shoving them down our throats? Having a discussion is mute since you already have decided to implement them! Who comes up with these changes????
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Re: Returns??? How about re-thinking this policy change!
Jul 13, 2011 12:56 PM
Thank you for answering my questions. But you last paragraph brings up another question. When you say my seller return policy covers buyer's remorse does that mean if I sell a NRFB Never Revmoved From Box Doll and they take it out undress it and redo the hair and then decide the do not want it does that mean I still have to accept the doll back? If so, can I state in my return policy that I will only offer refund if the item is returned as received (NRFB) ( I take all of my own pics). If not then how as a good seller can I protect myself? I do not buy things to resell. I an currently selling my possessions because I am trying to come up with cash in this crazy economy.
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Re: Returns??? How about re-thinking this policy change!
Jul 13, 2011 01:07 PM
Thank you for answering my questions. But you last paragraph brings up another question. When you say my seller return policy covers buyer's remorse does that mean if I sell a NRFB Never Revmoved From Box Doll and they take it out undress it and redo the hair and then decide the do not want it does that mean I still have to accept the doll back? If so, can I state in my return policy that I will only offer refund if the item is returned as received (NRFB) ( I take all of my own pics). If not then how as a good seller can I protect myself? I do not buy things to resell. I an currently selling my possessions because I am trying to come up with cash in this crazy economy.


If you sell a NRFB doll, and the buyer returns it clearly having been removed from the box (new hair style, clothes rearranged, accessories missing, etc), that return isn't covered by your seller return policy or by eBay Buyer Protection (both require that the item be returned in the condition it was received).

If that buyer didn't go through Buyer Protection, you can negotiate with the buyer to have the doll returned to them or any other offer you think is fair -- eBay will not require you to refund. If there was a case filed with Buyer Protection, then provide us with as much detail as possible (describe, for someone who possibly isn't familiar with collectible dolls or terms like NRFB, how you can tell that the doll was removed from the box and how this makes the item value lower) so that we can make sure we apply the policies correctly and not hold you responsible for refunding the buyer.
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Re: Returns??? How about re-thinking this policy change!
Jul 13, 2011 01:36 PM
Again, Thank you. From this point forward I will try to describe my items as if I am selling them to an individual without the ability to see.
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Re: Returns??? How about re-thinking this policy change!
Jul 13, 2011 02:41 PM
Consumers
REFUND POLICIES
Consumers have come to expect stores or catalog companies to offer a refund, credit or exchange when they return items. Sellers are not required by law to accept returned items unless they are defective. However, California law requires that retailers who have a policy of not providing a cash refund, credit or exchange when an item is returned with proof of purchase within 7 days of purchase must inform consumers about their refund policies by conspicuously placing a written notice about their policies, in language that consumers can understand, so that it can be easily seen and read. Some companies may limit exchanges or returns for credit or refunds on all, or some products. Some may not allow exchanges or returns for credit or refunds at all. But whatever the limitation, it must be conspicuously disclosed. Before making a purchase, carefully check the store's policy.

The policy must be displayed either at each entrance to the store, at each cash register and sales counter, on tags attached to each item, or on the company's order forms, if any. A return policy printed only on a receipt, for example, is not sufficient.

If a store violates this law (California Civil Code section 1723), the purchaser can return an item for a full refund within 30 days of purchase.

There are exceptions, however to the general rule requiring notice. Notices are not required for sale of perishable goods like food or plants; for items marked, "All sales final," or something similar; for items which are used or damaged; for items customized for the consumer and received as ordered; for items which cannot be resold for health reasons; or for items not returned in their original packaging.

Some stores keep records of consumers who frequently return merchandise and sometimes report that to a central reporting company and may not offer returns or refunds to such customers. The return policy notice must refer to such practice.

Consumers who believe a retailer has violated the law can notify the consumer protection division of their local district attorney's office or by filing a complaint with the Attorney General's Office


that is what California Requires.


ozzie3


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