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Ask Griff - April 2009
Apr 3, 2009 11:52 AM
Ask Griff - April 2009 Hello all, Welcome to the Ask Griff thread for the month of April, 2009. My name is Jim Griffith (known to most as Griff). I have been with eBay since 1996. You can learn more about me on my About Me page. Ask Griff Thread Posting Tips & Guidelines
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Posted by buckarooandco on May 21, 2009 11:51 AM Shipping Questions Dear Griff: One more for you. I usually ship via USPS through Paypal. But occasionally I can't. Two different scenarios: 1) First class international mail has to be physically dropped off at the Post Office. 2) A heavy, large package that is cheaper to ship through Fedex. So, when I go to my shipping mgr to report that it has been shipped: 1) It won't let me put in the customs receipt number for 1st class Int'l. and 2) There is no spot for FedEx, and no way to put the FedEx tracking number in. Any way this can be addressed? At the moment, no. But the shipping team is working on a solution for adding all tracking numbers into My eBay for a future seller release.
Posted by buriedbybooks on May 21, 2009 11:57 AM New Feedback Version Mock UP Griff: After all of your hinting about the feedback revamp, I was dismayed to see that the major seller concerns were --yet again--ignored in the testing currently ongoing for feedback changes. (see ebayink for more info) Why can't eBay get it through their collective heads that sellers cannot control the speed at which the carriers deliver their packages? Why aren't sellers being graded on criteria they have control over? Why does eBay continually ignore sellers' primary complaints and then claim they are listening? As Brian Burke mentioned in the post, this is one mock up out of many possible eventual scenarios. It is not a final release. Although there may be some provision for buyers to provide some information about delivery, this particular mock-up does not show the final version.
Posted by gardening*diy on May 21, 2009 2:05 PM Half.com Listings on eBay Since eBay's "best practices" tell us that product pages have a higher sell through than regular search results, product pages appear above the fold which pushes search results below the fold, half.com sellers are being allowed to list for free, half.com sellers are being allowed to undercut pricing at .99 for multiple items despite eBay's own rule about BIN minimums, and half.com listings are being given increased exposure despite poor dsrs... ...What incentive is there for long time, fee paying media eBayers to pay to list? We are not getting 'twice' the exposure. Our exposure just took a nosedive with the flooding of the product pages by sellers who aren't subjected to the same DSR standards for visibility that we are. Half.com sellers lack one of the four DSRs (shipping costs). However, the other DSRs are still taken into account equally for ranking for all sellers, Half.com or eBay. Items listed on Half.com are not given preference in product page placement on the basis of their being Half.com listings. The most important factors when it comes to ranking in product pages are – like Best Match - relevance (for keyword searches), price and to some extent, shipping costs. If a seller’s items are not appearing in the top of a product page search, then they should look at adjusting their keywords, their item price or shipping cost. Also... Any hint as to the new promotions to drive traffic to media listings Mr. Lathi has promised? Because if it is more couponing and online ads, we're completely underwhelmed. Not at this time.
Posted by longlady on May 21, 2009 4:34 PM Link to Mark Item Shipped in My eBay This is so confusing! Why can't I mark an item as "shipped" in the new My Ebay page? Shall I assume it does not matter to anybody but me? Does the buyer see it? I send them an email telling them I have shipped. The functionality is still there. You can mark an item as shipped from My eBay by going to the My eBay > Selling > Sold page, locating the item, and clicking the arrow at the left end of the item’s row:

The option for marking as shipped is in the drop down list.
I guess I shall just ignore my new My Ebay page 'sold" from now on since it is meaningless to everybody but me. PS (while I am here..and will never find this site again..) how come my hidden viewer counts can only be seen at the END of my listings? How come? It should be viewable by you but only if you are logged in as the seller of the item. If this is not the case (you are logged in as the seller and cannot see the counter), email me with the details at griff@ebay.com using your regular email (not My Messages).
Posted by bscheffl2 on May 21, 2009 5:20 PM Resolutions Refund Question You mentioned eBay is refunding buyers at times with no consequences to sellers. I have to say this practice makes no sense to me at all. If the refund is not justified such that the seller has to refund (for clearly justifiable reasons only), then why encourage a buyer to continue by giving them a refund at all AND keep the item. Frankly, I am puzzled by this. Even though it may not effect the seller... it will effect the sellers as a whole at some point. No, it won’t. For no-fault situations where we refund the buyer out of our pocket, it will have no effect on the seller, either immediately or in the future. When it is appropriate for a buyer to keep the item AND be refunded? Don't you think that practice will increase the likelihood of false claims being made on the slim chance the buyer will be able to keep the item AND be refunded? Possibly. But we believe that the likelihood of said activity would be minimal and not a substantial enough of a risk to us when balanced against the importance of providing buyers with a good experience on eBay (where a bad experience, even a no fault experience, could drive a buyer off eBay). Can you please tell me under what circumstances this practice seems appropriate? There are many possible scenarios where our refunding the buyer would be the right thing to do. For example, a no-fault situation where an item has been damaged in transit, or where an item was marked as delivered but the buyer claims was delivered to the wrong address. In those cases, the seller is not at fault but the buyer has had a bad experience. In cases where we believe it is appropriate for the benefit of the entire marketplace, we will reserve the right to refund a buyer out of our own pocket (no consequence for the seller).
Posted by the-cash-man on May 21, 2009 5:29 PM Relist Link on New Item Page Griff, what happened to the relist button? On unsuccesful listings the relist button appears on both the new item page as well as the end of auction emails, this is not the case with successful listings. Why can't you relist a successful listing? You can sell a similar item but why would anybody want to do this when the recent sales don't carry over. The Relist Link will be added back to the New Item page in late June, early July. In the meantime, you can relist an item using the link in the drop down menu for that item in the My eBay > Selling > Sold or Unsold views.
Posted by marsull_inla on May 21, 2009 6:12 PM New First Five Listings Free Pricing Questions Hi Griff, PLEASE can you give us more info on the new "first 5 free" that is starting June 16th or direct us to a link that spells it all out? A lot of us want to plan accordingly. On the Announcement Board post from this month, there is a http://pages.ebay.com/sell/June2009/List5Free/index.html> link to a full page of information: http://pages.ebay.com/sell/June2009/List5Free/index.html On that page is a link to an FAQ for the new pricing: http://pages.ebay.com/sell/June2009/list5free/faq/index.html Will there be an opt out for those of us that know the higher FVFs vs. no listing fee won't work for our items? “…If you do not wish to take advantage of the new pricing structure, you can opt-out by listing your items via an eBay tool (some are free) or third-party listing solution. The new pricing structure does not apply to sellers who list items through eBay tools or third-party listing solutions….” What are the time frames for the 30 days (first five after 6/16 or 30 days from sellers listings after 6/16?)? ”… The 30 day period starts with your first eligible listing after June 16, 2009. You'll have opportunity to take advantage of the $0.00 Insertion Fees for 4 more qualifying listings during those 30 days. After the 30 days pass, the next 30 day period will start with the next eligible listing. Example: On June 20, 2009 you list your first eligible $0.00 insertion fee listing. You will then have until July 20, 2009 to use your four remaining free Insertion Fees….” Is it gauged by first items scheduled/listed or first items entered into ebays SYI form? Listed, not scheduled. “…The new fees will become effective on June 16, 2009. Listings submitted through the Sell Your Item or Simple listing form that begin on and after midnight on June 16, 2009, (e.g. at 00:00:01am. PST) will be charged the new fees regardless of when they were created (e.g. through the Sell Your Item form using the listing scheduler features). ..”
Posted by inmyparentsbasement on May 21, 2009 6:35 PM Photo Size Question I have a question on the new page layout. I have contacted power seller support three times and have received three different answers. The new larger box for the pictures is great. The problem is all of our pictures show up as smaller pictures within the box. I have seen many other items which show larger pictures in the box that showed smaller pictures previously. We upload all items from Blackthorne. One support staff said our pixels were wrong. On the old format ebay took the pictures once they were uploaded and adjusted them to 300 x 400 the way I understand it. The pictures which we are uploading are much bigger. The next support staff person said this was going to be addressed in the next roll out in June. If this was the case wh do about 50 to 60% of the items I see listed by others have pictures that fit. The third was honest and said he didn't know anything about the new format. My thought is that since we have so many items that are relists maybe there is a stored pic ebay is using by default. I am listing some new items tonight anxiously await the results. My other thought is maybe Blackthorne is converting these items to 300 x 400 before they hit ebay. All I want is the correct answer so I can address our listings. I have had very little to compliment ebay on for the last six months or so but I do like the new format. Unfortunately as seems to so often be the case no one seems to know much about the new page roll out and there is nothing addressing it in the FAQs and tutorials provided by Ebay. In order to take advantage of the maximum photo size on eBay you have to consider two points: the size of the original photos and the Supersize option. The optimal eBay photo size is 1000 pixels by the longest side (width or length). Or: “W=1000 x L=1000 or less” or “L=1000 x W=1000 or less” However, if you upload a photo of these rough dimensions and do not select Supersize, the photos will be resized down to roughly 400 X 300. If you want your buyers to have the option of viewing larger images, you need to select the Supersize option which is available when you upload the images using eBay Picture Services (if you have a subscription to the soon-to-be-retired Picture Manager, Supersize is included for free).
Posted by prairie-view-antique.. on May 21, 2009 9:13 PM Negative Feedback Removal Requests Griff, On April 19th, I posted concerning negative feedback left for me by a non-paying bidder. You requested on the 24th that I email the details to you and you would work on my behalf to resolve the issue. I have not heard back from you. All emailed requests to me regarding feedback removal appeals are forwarded directly to the appropriate Trust and Safety rep or reps for consideration. I will usually add my notes based on the input from the seller and my recommendations based on that input. If I believe the request has a chance, I do not respond back to the seller. T&S usually does respond directly to the seller with a decision. If I believe the request will not be granted, I do respond back to the seller with the reason(s) why. However, if a seller doesn’t hear back from T&S after sending me an email request for feedback removal, the seller should email me back. I am once again in the position of having to file on 2 non-paying bidders from the last 2 days. One, made an offer and was accepted, only to email me today to say, never-mind, they didn't want the piece ($450.00). The other was someone who hit the buy it now, THEN started asking questions. I refunded their money $(600.00). I'm fine with them not paying or not wanting the items, I'll just sell them again. But, again, I am in the position of having to file disputes and leaving myself wide open for more negative feedback. I have all my blocks in place, however, one person has 0 feedback, the other 20. The blocks only allow - numbers to be blocked. Because I sell low volume but high dollar, I can't afford retaliatory negative feedback. I sell thousands of dollars a month on Ebay, but Ebay does nothing to help me. Somehow, this doesn't seem fair. I am at my wits end. I'm ready to give up and go away. Just what does Ebay plan to do about this type of situation? It's making for a very untenable situation. If either transaction ends up as a filed UPI and you receive negative feedback for either of them, your first step is to use the front line channel for reporting the feedback for removal via this http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/report_problem.html Select the option for Feedback Abuse. If the request is not granted and you believe it should have been, email me at griff@ebay.com using regular email ( Not My Messages!) As for the future, it is not secret that I am strongly opposed to allowing buyers to leave feedback for any incomplete transaction (for any reason). I don’t want to jeopardize ongoing discussions and efforts on this topic or unduly set expectations by pre-announcing anything here but I can say there is encouraging progress on this front with possible news about changes to the UPI process in general forthcoming in the next few months (next Seller Release).
Posted by 3smyman on May 22, 2009 5:38 AM Revealing The Reserve: Yes or No? I have a ring listed...a very expensive ring and I had a buyer email me to ask me what my reserve price is...should I tell them? This ring I am selling for a friend and they need the money bad to pay for funeral expenses. So I was tempted to tell them in hopes of selling it but I'd also like to get the best price for my friend too. It’s a matter of opinion. Many sellers will reveal their reserve amount when requested to do so. Some actually publish the reserve amount in their item description. Personally, I don’t see any harm or benefit in doing so. However, there could be a caution here. If a buyer asks for your reserve and after revealing it, the buyer attempts to convince you to sell them the item off eBay, and you agree, and the transaction ends up going awry, you have no recourse via eBay. If your intuition tells you something is not quite right, follow it.
Posted by bikerhal on May 22, 2009 7:03 AM Feedback Test Mockup Question “Did the item arrive by January 12, 2009 Yes No” Griff: The above is an example of part of the test of a revised feedback policy. You know as well as anyone that arrival time is a combination of when payment was made and cleared, when seller shipped, how it was shipped and the carrier’s efficiency. 1. Why was arrival date rather than ‘when-shipped date’ used or some other measure that is wholly under seller control? 2. How is the stated arrival date determined? 3. Why In the world would eBay use a metric whereby a seller can be faulted with a late delivery that could well have been due to a. Late payment by check or money order after buyer requested such a payment method? b. Carrier inefficiency? As I mentioned in a response above, the displayed mock up in the eBayInkBlog post is just one mock up out of many possible eventual scenarios. It is not a final release. Although there may be some provision for buyers to provide some information or rating about delivery of an item , this particular mock-up does not show the final version.
Posted by nalasgma on May 22, 2009 7:30 AM Half.com Technical Issues I am a long time half.com seller, who has recently "opted in" to Ebay. I am still planning on using BIN on ebay for those items not in the catalog; items where its necessary to adjust shipping fees due to the weight and for my misc items that I do list on eBay and items I wish to offer for sale internationally. I have some technical issues that need to be reported. Do I report them to the half.com side of things or to the Ebay folks? Traditionally, Ebay help has been of no use for half.com issues(to put it politely). Is there a specific email address to use for "opt-in" technical items? For eg. 1. Printed a shipping label this AM via paypal. If I click on the view order details, the correct dc number appears. If I go to the "add tracking number" option on the My Ebay page; the dcnumber that appears is followed by the Ebay transaction number 2. A sale I had this AM. Rec'd paypal notification, items appears in my Sold Summary...BUT, no sale email from ebay and FVF line item does NOT appear although my Fee total has been adjusted for the amt of the sale. I've only had 2 sales via the opt-in route; my first sale, also had the tracking number issue; BUT did not have issue no. 2 as pointed out above. ****************************** Regarding appearance in the listings, there are some technical issues there that I've come across... Items appearing twice, once under condition and then again under "non-specified" I'll be happy to provide details once I get some clarity on who in the company is actually handling the opt in issues. Oh and for the record, I totally understand that the folks who are listing in the traditional manner (as in paying listing fees) should definitely get more and better exposure than my half items do. I couldn’t find a seller-facing email for sending this type of information to Half.com or eBay so feel free to send it to me for forwarding. I have already forwarded a copy of this post to the appropriate person for their attention.
Posted by katlady57_757 on May 22, 2009 8:35 AM New Seller Question Hello, I am a new user to EBay. And I thought I recently Sold an Item Through EBay But apparently that wasn't the case what would i do if there is anything i can do to try and get either my money or the product back..... Also the product was sold outside the USA. I checked your past listings and found two. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260410246759 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260410257562 Neither shows as having a bid. This is concerning. If you sold either of these items, you would have sold them off of eBay. If you made an arrangement to ship the item to the buyer without first receiving payment, or if payment was not cleared, then you are most likely not going to see either the money or the item back, especially if you shipped the item outside of the USA.
Posted by mygift2u on May 22, 2009 8:53 AM Listing Links on the New View Item Page Question about Relisting Vs. Sell Similar when in New Page View: I noticed there is no "Relist" link on the New View pages, just a "Sell Similar" link. How are we supposed to get credit in search for recent sales if we "sell similar" while in New View? I thought you only got a bump in search for recent sales if you used "RELIST" not "Sell Similar". There is no option in the New Page View to do that. I realize it can be "relisted" by going to sold items, but this is a pain and therefore make the new page view user unfriendly. Perhaps you could pass this on to the team working on the New Page View. The links will be returned to the new view item page in late June or early July. In the meantime, you can always use My eBay to relist an item. Go to My eBay > Selling > Sold or Unsold, locate the item and click the drop down arrow or box at the end of the item’s row. Select from the options on that menu which will include “relist” for both views.
Posted by dvdguaranteed on May 22, 2009 8:54 AM Balance Column in Paypal Griff -- PayPal Issues -- follow up from my question. ...in order to keep track of things, I rely heavily on the running total which USED to be in the last column of the Account Overview and Account History screens -- it showed the current balance after each transaction in that far right column. Now, that column is gone -- there is no running total ... You said: I saw the same thing in my own PayPal account. I sent this off to PayPal and they responded that May 13th that the column had been restored to the Account Overview page on May 11th. Follow up: Are you seeing it on the account overview page? (not me, see my screen shot below) I have to go to the history to see it. Sorry, I was not precise. The “balance” column is visible on the History page view. It’s one click away from the Overview page (which only shows the most recent transactions anyway). Here is what it looks like:

Both my messages to PayPal were replied to from their help people letting me know it's not coming back and I have to go to the history page to see it. They did offer the very helpful suggestion of being able to see it if I download my history. Um. okaaaaay. I don't think they get it. Oh, well, an extra click never killed anyone (I can go to the history). Also, just checking about the quicken support of the QFX download (not the antiquated QIF download availability which is useless past 2005). I have inquired again and there are no plans at this point to offer support for the QFX format for PayPal. However, I did find a few possible third party QIF to QFX converter options online. Thanks for you help, as always!!


Posted by dcsbodyjewelry on May 22, 2009 9:11 AM Saving My Messages Griff, Why are messages in my ebay automatically deleted after 30 days? Ebay/Paypal give buyers up to 45 days to file a claim, and there very well could have been correspondence taken place between buyer and seller early in the transaction process that may be valuable information when disputes are filed. Since Ebay has basically forced the issue of all contact being made between buyer and seller using ebay messaging, it sure would be nice of messages were not auto deleted after only 30 day since Ebay/Paypal permits buyers to file claim disputes well beyond what federal internet retail law mandates. Good question. I don’t have an answer. I will however, suggest that we extend the amount of time prior to deletion. In the meantime, I strongly suggest that seller download their My Messages content on a regular basis.
Posted by foggy16 on May 22, 2009 9:12 AM Shipping Within Three Days? Griff my stated handling time is 3 business days but Ebay is telling me on paid listings that the item should ship within 3 consecutive days with no regard to business days. Why??? I confess. I don’t know where this message from eBay regarding shipping within 3 consecutive days is located or pops up. Can you provide more details?
Posted by dvdguaranteed on May 22, 2009 9:46 AM Two Questions Ok Griff -- another question. As suggested by Ebay, I run a lot of FP multi quantity listings GTC, and it seems to be helping the general rate of overall sales. There are so many bugs though, and although I call and report them -- several times usually, those bugs just persist and persist and persist. Are these requests going to anyone who actually views them? Here are a couple of examples. ISSUE #1 1. I start a new listing, using the pre-filled information which many times plops in a stock photo 2. No problem, I delete the stock photo and add my own. Put up the listing, and all is well. 3. When I get more stock, I go to revise the item, up the quantity, and this is the only thing I change. 4. After saving the listing with the new quantity, I go to the revisions page and it shows what was updated. Hmm. It shows the quantity, but it also shows "Stock Photo Added" when I did not add a stock photo. (I was not charged either for an additional photo) 5. Ok, so .... next time I go add quantity, I notice on the edit screen that next to the photo of my item, there is a stock photo shown -- so it looks like there are two pictures on my listing (from the edit screen) ... so I delete that bogus one that the system added, and I update my quantity. 6. Now, when I check the item revisions, it shows I updated the quantity AND the description, when I did nothing to the description, except delete that bogus photo that the system added. 7. So, if I delete that photo the system put in, I get a DESCRIPTION REVISION, if I don't delete that photo the system puts in, I get a STOCK PHOTO ADDED in my revisions list. Either way it's wrong, and it shouldn't happen. Although, I understand this may not be a big deal for some, when I am taking the time to take my own photos of all these DVDs, and manually make a description for each one, I don't want someone to look at the revision list and see all these revisions that I DIDN'T MAKE. In my mind, that erodes the confidence of buyers -- why would this seller keep having to adjust their description? And it doesn't seem to matter because the first time I reported this (three times) to Ebay Help on the phone was like over a month ago and I just ... it's just frustrating, you know? Can you pass this issue along to someone who actually might get it on a "to-do" list somewhere? I don't want people thinking I'm constantly revising my description when I am clearly NOT. I sure can. The Stock Photo should not be posting automatically. ISSUE #2 Also, I have had an issue with certain titles of mine not showing up in the completed items search. For instance, I sold a title, "My Name is Bruce" - on 5-18, for $14.76. It is not showing up in the completed items search when I search for "My Name is Bruce" -- see screenshot below of what shows up all around May 18. This is something I reported AT LEAST twice OVER a month ago (probably longer, and also since then), and still nothing is fixed. This is quite distressing as we are supposed to trust the search since this is how our listings are sold -- Best Match, search? Wha? How do we know it works? WHY would we expect it to work when we spot check things like this and the search clearly does not work? Not only that, I use the completed items search to properly price my items -- so I know that I'm picking a price that has a shot at selling, but if all the completed items aren't showing up -- then I don't have a real view of what's sold and at what price. That's not so great to base your pricing on FALSE information. See screenshot below of the search results. My item from 5-18 is clearly NOT listed. I have called this in and every CSR I have spoken with has verified that it doesn't show up for them either. I just searched the entire site using “my name is bruce” limited to Completed Listings and your item does show up:

ALSO, to make matters worse, if my items which are priced higher than the other DVD prices (not blu-ray) are not showing up in the search, how do I know that they are being counted in the averages for the item price for that item? So if the overall average item price is artificially lower than mine, because of this BUG which is not being addressed, then ALL sellers are losing money because we are having to lower our prices to accommodate and average that is totally incorrect!!! This has been happening with this title for a long time, and who knows what other titles it is happening with, I don't really have the time or energy to track all my items in such a manner, but dangit, Griff, I shouldn't HAVE TO. Average Sold Prices are figured on actual sales, not on what shows up in Completed Item search. Completed Item search is walled off from live listing search. Items are moved to the Completed Item search server pools after they have ended. It has absolutely no affect or connection to live search, including Best Match How many times do I have to report this before it gets addressed or at least to get a reply that says, sorry you're out of luck we can't fix it. All I hear is "you're right it's not showing up" and "I'll pass it along" and that's just not good enough. It's just really really frustrating. Ebay wants us to trust, but how can we when stuff like this keeps happening? Man, I want nothing more than for ebay to really get its junk together and kick butt in the marketplace again, but how can that happen when the thing being attended to is the part of the iceberg that's on the top of the water when the bigger and more dangerous part is just under the surface seemingly unchecked. Thanks for listening ... I couldn’t duplicate what you observed. I also asked if this was a known bug, even intermittently, and was told no, it wasn’t. If it happens again (and item doesn’t appear in Completed Item search), don’t post it here. The lag time between post and response can be a week. Send it to me directly at griff@ebay.com using regular email (Not My Messages).


Posted by foggy16 on May 22, 2009 9:53 AM Store Promotion Boxes Griff I just took another look at the new listing format and it is missing the store promotion box, where other items from my store would show up in the listing. Is this gone now?? How are we supposed to effectively guide people into our stores without this? It was one of the few benefits to owning a store. The Store Promotion boxes will be added to the New View Item page at the end of June or early July.
That catches us up. I will open a new thread tomorrow for June. We will keep this and the June thread at the top of Seller Central and move this thread to the new area in a few weeks. regards, Griff Jim Griffith ______________ eBay Inc


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Re: Ask Griff - April 2009
May 28, 2009 02:22 PM
Posted by bikerhal on May 20, 2009 6:05 AM Questions About Choice Listings Choice Listings Policy A listing where a seller allows buyers to choose from a selection of completely different items. In general, sellers are permitted to offer a choice of sizes, colors and configurations of a particular item within a listing. However, a listing may not offer buyers a choice of completely different items. Griff: Would you please provide some help here. What do ‘configurations’ refer to? The term “configurations” for listings offering a choice, would mean the variations available for a single item (size, color, customization, etc). For example, a single T Shirt item that comes in different colors and sizes. Or a single T shirt item where the seller will provide silk screen customization (logos, text, graphics etc). What does ‘completely different’ mean? As it refers to two or more items in a Multiple Listing Fixed Quantity listing, it means items that are singular and distinct from each other. In a listing of 3 DVDs with separate titles, each title would quantify the items as "completely different" from each other . Examples: 1. A seller offered a number of Disney Movie VHS tapes in one listing and buyer could select one at the listed price. Is this ok? No. This would not be allowed. Each VHS tape may share a single attribute (made by Disney) but each is fundamentally different from the other. Once a buyer purchases one of the tapes, the seller cannot offer the same choices to the next buyer. Another example: a lot of books about one topic. The books may share a topic but each book is different. So a listing of a single Fixed Price listing with say, 10 different books on one sports topic would not qualify since you cannot offer each potential buyer the same choices (when one buyer buys a book, the second buyer’s range of choices are limited to the books not purchased.) 2. Seller sells T shirts – each at the same price a)Is it ok to offer choice on color and/or size for ‘identical’ shirts? Yes, as long as the seller can offer the same choices for all subsequent buyers up to the quantity indicated for the listing. b) What if the shirts are identical except some are cotton and some are polyester? Yes, as long as the seller can provide all buyers with the same choices up to the quantity indicated for the listing. Thus if one of the choices were “fabric type” (cotton or polyester), as long as the seller could fulfill all orders for either (in addition to the various sizes and colors), then it would be allowable. c) What if the shirts are identical except for the sports team name on the front? If the seller can provide the choice of “sport team name” for all possible buyers in that listing (along with the other choices offered, like size, color, fabric type, etc). then it would be allowable. 3. A seller sells books – each at the same price. a) Is it ok to offer a choice of one of several books about the N.Y. Yankees? No. Once a buyer purchases one of the books (as a buyer choice), the seller would no longer be able to offer the same choices to the next buyer. b) Is it ok to offer a choice of one of several books about baseball teams? No, same reason as above. c) Is it ok to offer a choice of one of several books about sports? No, same reason as above. d) Is it ok to offer a choice of one of several non-fiction books? No, same reason as above. Use this rule of thumb: In a Fixed Price Multiple Quantity listing, the seller can offer a range of configurations only if the choice of configurations is available to all buyers and not limited or reduced once a buyer has made a choice. The t shirt seller has a single type t shirt available (i.e., Hanes Beefy Tees) in various colors and sizes. If a buyer chooses a blue XL t shirt from this seller’s listing, it is assumed the seller has more blue XL t shirts to offer future buyers. That same seller could also offer the choice of various customizations like logos, graphics, text etc. As long as the seller can offer the same choices to all buyers in that one listing, the configurations are allowed. However, with the lot of Disney VHS tapes of different titles, they could not be offered as “choice” since once a buyer purchased one of the tapes, the seller could not offer that same tape to a future buyer from that listing. Thus, the seller cannot offer the same choice for all buyers.
Posted by lindaspostcardsandmore on May 20, 2009 8:06 AM New View Item Page Questions Will the left hand navigation bar with the list of store categories be returned to the view item page? Yes. It is not there now but the item page description on Ebay shows the navigation bar and states it WILL be there. Also, the Ebay Inkblog said it would be there. So, if it will be there, when will we see it again? I believe this is set to roll in late June, early July.
Posted by bikerhal on May 20, 2009 8:17 AM Resolution Policy Questions Below is part of the revised policy on counterfeit items Obligations when a buyer opens a claim alleging an item is counterfeit: • Sellers shall work with the buyer in good faith during the resolution process to provide buyer with appropriate documentation or other assurances to satisfy the buyer that the item is not counterfeit, if such information is available. • If buyer and seller cannot agree that the item is not counterfeit, for covered claims that meet the conditions and are not excluded, buyers are required to send the item back to the seller. Cost of return shipping will be paid by the buyer or eBay in our sole discretion, unless otherwise agreed upon by the buyer and seller. • Covered claims that meet the conditions and are not excluded will count as a violation by the seller of our prohibited and infringing items policy. The third bullet is bothersome. Isn't this a case of guilty until proven innocent? Not necessarily. If a seller has a past track record of selling brand name items with no prior reports of counterfeit items (from either a buyer or a rights owner), then the seller has nothing to fear. But if the seller has not prior track record of selling brand name items or has had prior reports of listing counterfeit items, then the dispute could count as a violation on the seller’s record Perhaps the seller did provide documentation but the buyer still claims the item is a fake. Why should the seller automatically be punished with a violation in this type of he-said, she-said situation? See my response above. And consider: claims of counterfeit items are taken very seriously here at eBay. We absolutely will not tolerate counterfeit (infringing) items, whether they were listed knowingly or unknowingly. If a seller cannot provide adequate assurances to a buyer that the brand name item they are purchasing is absolutely authentic, then the seller should not list the item on eBay. If the seller lacking said assurances decides to list the item anyway, then they are assuming the risk of a possible violation should the buyer claim the brand name item is not authentic and the seller is not willing to take the item back immediately prior to the buyer filing a dispute with eBay. Bottom line: If you cannot provide assurance of the brand name item’s authenticity by physical documentation or your past history of selling similar brand name items on eBay, then you, the seller, acknowledges that you are assuming full risk of a possible violation. If you are not willing to assume this risk, don’t list the item. Why shouldn’t the buyer also be punished because he could be making a dishonest claim about an item being counterfeit? By giving the buyer a violation would that not tend to reduce the number of fraudulent counterfeit claims? The onus of responsibility regarding claims made or inferred about an item’s authenticity begins and ends with the seller, not the buyer. If a buyer believes an item is not authentic, the seller should take it back. A seller may decide to argue the claim with the buyer but on eBay, this may not be the best business strategy, especially if the seller has no prior track record of selling similar brand names. A seller may decide to pursue a buyer through legal channels on their own. However, no marketplace, including eBay, would hold the buyer responsible for wanting to return a brand name item due to their belief that the item is not authentic. (The exception for eBay would be a buyer who shows a prior history of repeated filed claims of inauthenticity. That information would be taken into consideration in deciding any case, regardless of the seller’s prior history and we could take action against said buyer). My advice: If you are a seller and you, in good faith, list and sell a brand name item on eBay and the buyer, after receiving said item, emails you to express their deep concern about the item’s authenticity and if that buyer’s concerns cannot be assuaged by your repeated reassurances to the buyer, the only smart “next step” on the part of the seller is to offer to take the item back for a full refund and to do so prior to the buyer filing a dispute.
Posted by hawgryders on May 20, 2009 8:21 AM eBay Employee Seller Questions A few questions concerning sellers who are also eBay employees What I am asking here is not for the official P&P of eBay (although if you want to include the policies that is OK by me) but how the Senior Manager, Seller Advocacy - Seller Experience Team views this - and what guidelines and/or higher standards these sellers are required to adhere to [Are the eBay Employee Sellers encouraged to offer Free Shipping, Open Return Policies, and a 100% Satisfaction Guarantee like you do ?] Yes. But no seller, including an eBay employee, is forced to do so. [Why are eBay Employee Sellers allowed to have Terms of Service that are in violation of the User Agreement, PayPal rules, and even your interpretations given to the rest of us ?] No seller is allowed to state terms of service that violate eBay policy. If you find a seller whose TOS you believe violate eBay policy, you should report them using the Report This Item link on the bottom of the listing page. However, there is a difference, a HUGE difference from an actual policy violation and my recommendations for the best TOS. [Why are eBay Employee Sellers allowed to scalp tickets ? (although technically not illegal, it does say a lot about the moral standards eBay expects from their employees)] If you discover a listing where any seller, eBay employee or not, is violating http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/event-tickets.html>The Event Tickets Resale Policy, report the listing using the Report This Item link on the bottom of the listing page. And now a rhetorical one (erase at will) ... [Is being an eBay Employee one of the Secret Parameters used in Best Match ?] eBay employees are not given special treatment in Best Match. A seller’s employment status is not a factor in Best Match. eBay employees receive no special treatment or exclusion to eBay policy. eBay employees pay the same exact fees when they list as every seller and are subject to the same rules and processes as every other seller. eBay employees receive absolutely no special benefits at all.
Posted by razzle13 on May 20, 2009 10:51 AM Multiple Negative Counts Hi, glad you made it back. This is probably known by most, but I can not figure it out. It always bothered me that when the same buyer leaves Pos. FB for items bought in the same week, it is only counted as 1+ feedback, no matter how many there are. But, seems if I leave a seller 3 negs, same week, ALL Count ! Is this right?? I do not think it is fair, negs from one buyer should be counted as 1 just want your thoughts as to why this is fair??? Left negatives work exactly as left positives. The multiples will show up as individual counts in the box showing the number of positive, negative and neutrals received in the last month, six months and twelve months However, multiple negative feedbacks left in a single week only count as one single negative with regards to seller's percentage and the effect on the seller's feedback score.(number).
Posted by marsull_inla on May 20, 2009 11:45 AM Partial Refund Request Information For privacy reasons, it is extremely doubtful that we would ever provide the payment record or any information for that matter - even for partial refunds - to anyone outside of the transaction where the partial refund was made. Maybe you misunderstood, I'm not requesting that information be given out, only tracked. Paypal already tracks large purchases, unusual account activity, etc, correct? There are buyers that are making it a habit to get partials, these buyers should be stopped. Couldn't something be implemented so that if an account gets partials on a % of purchases (70% ? 80%?) a red flag goes up? Yes, this information is recorded. The details are not made public. If the buyer doesn’t pay, file the UPI and if it closes in your favor, request that the feedback be removed. There have been numerous cases on this board (and others) where sellers tried to get a NPB neg removed and could not. Yes. But to be fair, there have also been just as many if not more cases where the feedback has been removed. (And many times, the scenarios reported here where a feedback wasn’t removed were, well, let’s just say not complete in their telling.) Is there going to be an upcoming change to block NPBs from giving feedbac? Not in the near term but possibly in the future. No details available at the moment. (I have made my own feelings about this issue known on more than one occasion here. I am for blocking all feedback for all UPI transactions including mutual cancellation).
Posted by fairly_dinkum on May 20, 2009 11:59 AM ”No International Shipping” Setting Default Change I realize this thread is For Sellers (as Griff stated), which I am, but this is my buying ID. Even so, I have some info pertaining to the "Buyer Requirements Issue" and only wish to help. "There is a problem in the programming. Many of us have all the checks in place etc and have our listings set to sell only to certain countries. Buyers in countries we do not sell to are still able to buy." I notice that when I access the SYI form during a Revise that the International Shipping section has data which I did not originally set. The Shipping Service field displays "Flat Rate", instead of "No International Shipping". Previously, leaving the entire International Shipping block of data 'empty' (i.e. making NO choices), would Automatically set the no international shipping option. Now, it seems, the default falls to Flat Rate, with all the other fields Blank (intentional). This situation (probably) causes the shipping calculator, as well as our Buyer Blocking Requirements, to Glitch. Not everytime, just sometimes. I have received quite a bit of email on this one as well. I forwarded the issue to Mike Maffeo (Seller Tools) and he assured me this was an unintentional change and will be changed back. The default should be “no international shipping.” So look for this one to change back to that default very soon.
Posted by buriedbybooks on May 20, 2009 1:02 PM More on Accepted Payments Pay on Pickup follow up: Yes, it is allowed. By stating, “Please contact me for payment methods for local pickup,” the seller is asking the buyer desiring to pick up the item to contact him or her before paying. If a local pickup buyer pre-empts the discussion by going to directly to PayPal, the seller is within his rights to refund the payment and email the buyer with instructions for cash on pickup. Perhaps I'm confused, but can you tell my WHY Paypal or another electronic payment method is required to be offered if sellers can refuse to honor a buyer's preferred payment method? See my response to the post above by mimiluvspappy13 on May 20, 2009 5:05 AM
Posted by buriedbybooks on May 20, 2009 1:05 PM Accepted Payment Policy Here is the policy I'm referring to (again): Communicating about payment methods Sellers need to say in their listing specifically which payment methods they accepts and only offer payment methods approved by eBay. Sellers aren't allowed to: * Ask buyers to contact them for additional payment methods * Offer a payment method to some buyers and not to others * Discourage buyers from using any payment method the seller specified in the listing * Ask buyers to pay using a method not mentioned in the listing. This applies to all transaction-related correspondence between a seller and buyer as well as the listings. Seems crystal clear to me that you can't refuse to honor a payment method that is specified in the listing. See my response to the post above by mimiluvspappy13 on May 20, 2009 5:05 AM, pecifically: “However, the wording of the policy ("sellers may not discourage a buyer...") should be reworded to eliminate the confusion some sellers may have about the Local Pickup exceptions. I will forward it to T&S for their attention.”
Posted by dallasreject on May 20, 2009 1:31 PM Question About Third Party Listing Tools Hi Griff Are there any issues which we should be aware of in the upcoming changes for sellers using 3rd party listing programs like Inkfrog, Auctiva and Garage Sale? Not that I am aware of. All certified providers are given ample time and information for adapting their products to be fully functional for any upcoming changes. Although we do provide ample time and information to all certified providers, it is ultimately the responsibility of the provider to make sure their products are compatible with eBay changes. Also (in the same vein) are there any plans to making Blackthorn and/or Turbolister usable for Macintosh owners? Unfortunately (and I am a big Mac user myself so I know how this hurts), not at this time. But I do diplomatically remind our product team of the need for this cross platform compatibility.
Posted by dtmedin on May 20, 2009 1:40 PM Conflicting About Me Guidelines Help Pages Griff, A couple of posts back, someone asked about the general issue of confusing or conflicting ebay policies. I concur, including getting different answers from different people and from T&S, including unpublished policies and practices, which can sometimes accrue violations without a member's intent. I've been in communication with you on one such item, that I wanted to ask my question publically as I've gotten several differing responses within ebay, specifically sellers linking to their offsite web stores on their ABOUT ME page. I understand you said that buyers following these links off-site is rare, but my comment is about the policy itself, so some T&S prosecutor does not come sailing out of the sunlight later and bomb my account with a policy violation should I put in such a link. I take this seriously having once been branded for fee circumvention, even though I was doing nothing of the sort, due to some unpublished internal T&S policy interpretation. First, the policy on ABOUT ME pages and linking to your own independent web site with items for sale, is different between Motors and the main eBay site: Are they, in fact, meant to be different per site? No they are not. The page that links from Motors is out of date. Your emails to me on this topic where forwarded to the Policy team so that they conflicting information on the old page could be amended to be in line with the “core” policy. Then, the main site policy says you can put a link to your own web store, but in the same breath it prohibits linking to any site that offers the same item for the same or lower price than the item on ebay. Which proviso is correct? Can I have anything in my web store I link to as long as I don't promote the link in the ABOUT ME text? This is REALLY confusing. Can you give or get us a definitive or expert opinion on linking to our individual web stores on our ABOUT ME pages, on both the main site and Motors? I'd sure appreciate that clarification once and for all. Thanks. Follow the guidelines on the “core” About Me Guidelines Help page (not the Motors About Me page).
Posted by crazy-8-treasure on May 20, 2009 2:54 PM Fee Discounts for “Free Shipping” Griff, you put your neck on the block here, and then state you actually enjoy it, I can only say, thanks and double thanks! I've read and read and don't see my question posted before, but very sorry if I've missed it. I'm just a small seller, a maybe-big someday seller, but ebay is killing me before I get out of the starting block. You state that Ebay values the small seller, but Griff, if that's so, then why, in this huge push for Free Shipping to All, does Ebay give, yet again, discounts for Power Sellers if they offer free shipping, but the small seller gets nothing from it other than increased listing fees (must list widget as $2.88 instead of .98cents to recoup shipping costs) and then, (big sigh) increased FVF after auction closes? Ebay is raking in profits from the small sellers honest shipping cost while the power sellers get to list as Free Shipping without any monetary sacrifice -- which means I can't possibly compete with them! Its hard enough to compete with Power Sellers, this is a fatal tip of the scales for the small seller! When ANY seller lists FREE SHIPPING, why can't discounts be given to us all if thats truly what Ebay sees as the future of selling? Isn't this an effective way for Ebay to increase both listing fees AND FVF without any "advertisable' price hike, and all at the expense of the small seller? Does Ebay truely want to be venue for only huge power sellers and NO small sellers? thank you. Thank you for your suggestions regarding discounts for all sellers who offer Free Shipping. I will forward them to the Policy team for their consideration.
Posted by ltldpr on May 20, 2009 3:16 PM Misc Comments Hi Griff, I believe I met you back in '99 or '00 in Houston at an eBay U. 1. I agree there should be a pink on the boards to help with issues. 2. Because the last post I could find from a pink on the Tech. issues board was from '05 (I think), I have to report 2 issues to you about the Sell Your Item page. Sorry, but please forward. A. Even though I've set my preferences to accept no international buyers, I have to physically change it every single time when I list something. Also have to change it every single time when I revise an existing listing. See my response to fairly_dinkum posted above. This will be fixed. B. Item Specifics has a glitch for some items. I ignored it, so I'm not sure exactly which category it was in, but it happened twice. I think it was when I listed the little vintage model train crew and passengers. Rather than be category related, the drop downs were about magazines and issues of magazines. (Strange.) If you observe this again, take screen shots and send them to me at griff@ebay.com using your regular email, (not My Messages). 3. I completely agree that NPB's should NEVER be allowed to leave ANY feedback for a transaction they didn't follow through with, regardless of their excuse for not completing it. 4. I agree with other poster(s) that "View Sellers Other Items" (or whatever it was called) should be returned to the bottom of the item page!! 5. I agree with the masses that the new search stinks. 6. I miss the old eBay. I miss its atmosphere, virtual glitch-free Mr. Lister (I refuse to use Turbo Lister bec. it's not user friendly and just plain stinks!) I, like others, feel as though eBay is trying to become another Amazon. The world only needs one of those and it's already in existence. I would never be able to find spark plugs or a carburetor for a 1925 Model T on Amazon. But, I could and did on eBay some years back. And you still can: Model T Spark Plugs Model T carburetors I don't think I'm in the minority when I say I want a place to find out-of-the-ordinary, not new items. (Just sold a lot of vintage ladies handkerchiefs for over $40! So, I KNOW I'm not the only one wanting the old eBay back!) Yes, eBay is not the same “eBay” in some ways (change is inevitable) but as your own experience above shows, eBay is still a place to find out-of-the-ordinary items. In fact, my experience as a buyer also bears this out. Check out my recent purchases.
Posted by something4u.717 on May 20, 2009 5:11 PM Redirecting To Your Store Via Your Unique Domain Name Hi Griff, I have purchased a domain that I want to use fo my eBay store-it's similar to my store name,but without the extra stuff. Iam not sure what to enter as the URL to forward to. After searching through Help a few times and not being able to find the answer, I need help. Please In order to have your own domain name redirect to your eBay Store, you need to configure the redirect setting via the company that is hosting your domain. For more information, visit this page
Posted by ozzie3 on May 20, 2009 10:31 PM More User Agreement Questions You posted this: … nothing in this agreement shall modify the governing provisions of California Commercial Code § 2401(2) and Uniform Commercial Code § 2-401(2), under which legal ownership of an item is transferred upon physical delivery of the item to the buyer by the seller. Unless the buyer and the seller agree otherwise, the buyer will become the item's lawful owner upon physical receipt of the item from the seller, in accordance with California Commercial Code § 2401(2) and Uniform Commercial Code § 2-401(2).” It doesn’t state that the seller can pass the buck to the shipping carrier. eBay will still hold the seller responsible unless they can prove physical delivery of the item " However the new statement says: "We do not transfer legal ownership of items from the seller to the buyer, and nothing in this agreement shall modify the governing provisions of California Commercial Code § 2401(2) and Uniform Commercial Code § 2-401(2), unless the buyer and the seller agree otherwise." Does that change your opinion or do you know that 2-401 (2) says physical delivery occurs when title changes and that occurs when goods are delivered to carrier? So does the user agreement require physical delivery to the buyer at the buyers location or not? Yes it does. If you sell on eBay, you are required to deliver the goods to the buyer’s location. That has not changed. It will not change. If it does, is it over-riding UCC 2-401 (2) ? I have no idea. (I am not a lawyer.) On advice from our legal team, I suggest you contact an attorney who can help you interpret that CA Code and how it applies to the eBay User Agreement.
Posted by something4u.717 on May 21, 2009 6:38 AM Domain Redirect Process Success! Hi Griff, Nevermind! I tweaked it some and fixed it myself. I feel so empowered. What a great day! Glad you were able to work it out!
Posted by di25535 on May 21, 2009 7:14 AM Questions on Authenticity and Claims Hi Griff - I'm writing after reading Ina Steiner's Auctionbytes commentary about seller take-aways in the new "improved" resolution process. Ina suggests that all sellers have "proof of autheniticity" when listing their items. What "proof of authenticity" will eBay accept? For brand name (copyright or trademark protected items) an original record of purchase like a receipt from the store where the item was originally sold. For example, I purchased some housewares items at the distributors warehouse; they are new, branded items. I have a receipt listing them as well - housewares. Is this proof of authenticity? What do I need to provide to protect myself from a claim? For brand name (copyright or trademark protected items) an original record of purchase like a receipt from the store where the item was originally sold would be considered adequate documentation. In another example, I purchased some china at a thrift store. It is clearly backstamped with the maker's name and pattern name. My receipt shows only "china and glassware" $xxxx. Is this proof of authenticity? What do I need to provide to protect myself from a claim? It depends on the brand name or trademark involved. If the stamp is of a brand or trademark that is not currently registered, then there would be no basis for a claim of counterfeit. Remember, the rules regarding authenticity are intended for trademarked or copyright protected items like luxury brand name clothing, accessories, etc. They do not cover general collectibles, antiques, etc I would be hard pressed to think of a scenario where dishes bought at a thrift store would be subject to a counterfeit claim (except perhaps for certain well known, currently registered brand names like “tiffany” or “wedgewood”). In another example, I decide to sell the vase that my deceased mother left me. (Times are hard on eBay). The vase is marked with the maker's name on the bottom. I don't have a receipt, Mom died over 20 years ago, and can't attest to anything. What do I need to provide to protect myself from a claim? If the item isn’t marked with a currently registered trademarked brand, it would not be subject to a claim of counterfeit. If it is a currently registered trademarked brand, and the buyer disputes the claim on authenticity, an acceptable form of documentation might be a signed statement of authenticity from a known dealer or appraiser of similar items. This is an important question. I'm sure that there are many sellers that would like to know what "proof" ebay will accept for our wares' authenticity. Please don't cite statistics telling me how few claims there are, or whatever. I'm not interested in the odds, or likelihood of a claim - I want to know how to protect myself. If eBay can't tell me, that tells me a lot too. The best way to protect yourself from a possible dispute, for any item listed on eBay, is to provide a complete description that includes all condition issues for the item, clear photos that show all sides of the item including closeups of marks, condition points, etc. and to provide a reasonable return policy. For trademark or copyright protected items, any and all documentation should be included in the listing description. All these components together provide your buyers with the assurances they need about the item and your dedication to their satisfaction.
Posted by dorothysew on May 21, 2009 7:44 AM Combined Invoice Shipping Fee Question Flat rate shipping question that I can't figure out. Item A $4 first purchase, $3 thereafter Item B $2 first purchase, $1 thereafter Buyer purchases 2 A's, 2 b's. I want it charged $4 +3 +1 +1 In other words-I want highest item billed at lst rate, the rest of the items billed at 2nd item rates on a combined invoice. Anyway to do it? Yes there is, at least for the given the examples above. Both Item A and Item B discounts share one thing in common; they both subtract $1 off the intial shipping costs for the first item purchased. (BTW, I believe you meant to say “I want it charged $4 +3 +2 +1,’ not “I want it charged $4 +3 +1 +1.” Correct?) Go to My eBay > Account > Site Preferences Click “Show” to the right of “Shipping Preferences.” Click “Edit.” Under Flat Shipping Rule, click “Edit.” In the window that pops up, select “Subtract an amount for each additional item” Select “Dollars.” Enter “1” in the “Subtract” box. Click the “Next” button. This will accommodate your wish to have $1 subtracted from both listings for items purchased after the first one is purchased.
Posted by dorothysew on May 21, 2009 7:48 AM New View Item Page Concerning store listing frame (categories on left side) in new item page. Last year, there was a pink that stated it would not be in new page, April updates say it will. People are reporting they are seeing new item page without it. which is correct? (Store sellers obviously want it retained) Thanks for both answers. The Store Category box will be returned to the New View Item page in late June or early July.
Posted by nanartchik on May 21, 2009 8:53 AM Authenticity Question I also have a question about "proof of authenticity." As you know, I sell my own artwork. Some artists print up a "Certificate of Authenticity" and include it in their listings. Will this now be a requirement, given that anyone with a computer and a printer could print up a "COA"? And that even "COA's" printed by large auction houses can be fraudulent? No, it will not be a requirement (although anything a seller can offer to provide proof of authenticity will help reassure a buyer and is recommended). However, a seller selling their own artwork is not subject to a dispute about counterfeit as it relates to trademark or copyright protected material. Since the new User Agreement doesn't give many specifics as to variations in different categories, could we have some more indications as to what criteria eBay will use in judging disputes over "authenticity?" Questions of item authenticity, in a Resolution dispute, apply only to copyright or trademark protected items (for example, luxury brand name clothing or accessories). It does not apply to artwork. Another quick comment. I believe I saw you respond with a new term for the proposed "tiered system" for eBay Sellers: "Certified Sellers." I'm sorry...but I thought I was already a certified seller. I upgraded my eBay account in order to sell, and gave you all kinds of personal information in order to sell on eBay. IMHO, "Certified" is just as bad as "Approved." I would guess that there will be a FEE involved in "Certification?" The final name for the program has not been chosen. It won’t be “approved” and it won’t be “certified.” And your guess is incorrect. There will be no fee involved in eligibility for the program. The requirements for eligibility will focus primarily on seller quality, not volume of sales. This will make it possible for all sellers, big AND small, to join. And no, I don't have anything listed right now...My sell-through rate was about 20% for my last go-round. And one Buyer was an old friend who saw my stuff on Facebook. The rest saw my work on the "new work" threads on the Art & Artist Boards, including the latest "Nibblefest" promotional contest. Sorry it didn’t work out for you. I regret that you chose not to at least try to apply the suggestions I provided to you earlier. In your category, it is very challenging to make a market listing one or two items at a time. But if you are realizing greater success in other channels, you have my sincere best wishes.
Posted by sko74517 on May 21, 2009 9:25 AM Waste of Time Phone Call Hi Griff: I got a phone call from eBay this morning to give me "tips and best practices for selling in Auction-style format". Here are the tips they gave me just for the record: ".....Here?s how you can benefit from listing in Auction-style format: Set your starting price low Auction-style listings are still the best deal on eBay with the lowest eBay fees. A low start price also creates excitement and drives bidding. Do research on item price before you begin and find out what the item is worth. You can find great information on pricing by browsing recently completed listings. Getting that first bid is critical, as other buyers are more likely to jump in if there are already bids on an auction. Avoid using Reserve pricing when possible. Reserve pricing can cause buyers to lose interest if they assume an item is overpriced. Many successful sellers set a low opening bid with no reserve to jumpstart bidding and increase their final selling price. Use for single-quantity or unique items, hard-to-find items, and items of uncertain value Unlike multi-quantity Fixed Price items, single items can?t build up the sales record needed to get a good position in search results. For this reason, list single items in Auction-style for an advantage when the listing is about to end since ?Time ending soonest? is key factor for Auction-style listings surfacing in search results. Offer Buy It Now By adding buy it now to your Auction-style listing, you can sell your items fast?for the price you want?while providing a fair price to your buyers. To add Buy It Now to your listing: Create an Auction-style listing Select the ?Customize your listing? option Select the ?Online Auction? tab and enter the Buy It Now price For more information on Buy It Now and its requirements, go to Link Consider experimenting with selling formats ? such as Fixed Price too Try Fixed Price format for multi-quantity listings. In fact, you should have a mix of Fixed Price and Auction-style listings for maximum to boost in search results. Using both formats will also give your customers more ways to shop for your items......" Questions: Why is eBay wasting staff time and phone calls to a 4 year seller on what I think most of us would agree are "the obvious"? Sorry you considered the phone call a waste of time. I will alert the team in CS of your comments. As for “the obvious,” I learned a long time ago here to never assume that every seller is aware of “the obvious.” I will however, go out on a limb and assume you took the opportunity to inform the rep of your opinions of the call and that you were able to ask questions pertinent to your particular selling needs and concerns? Sellers need buyers for our auctions and fixed price items Griff. Where are the buyers? What's being done to drive buyers here? I have answered this previously. Our current buyer acquisition strategy focuses on a combination long time buyer outreach, and loyalty programs like eBay Bucks. Both are showing good results so far (eBay Bucks is still in a limited test with a full release planned by the beginning of the holiday season and we are showing good success at bringing lapsed buyers back onto eBay). Request: If you would, please show that girl who sent me this email where to find the 'apostrophe/single quote key' on that keyboard of hers. She knows where the quote key resides on her keyboard and she was using it. Different email programs sometimes use different character sets when displaying text. This is especially true for MIME email extensions which relies on abbreviated character sets. Although each character set uses the same alpha numeric characters, symbols sometimes differ. In this case, you computer is translating into character set that differs from the one used to create and send the email. The character code for the quote character used in the email, is not recognized by the MIME abbreviated character set used in your email application and thus substitutes a different character (in this case, a question mark).
Posted by Lindaspostcardsandmore on May 21, 2009 9:46 AM DSRs My DSR average dropped drastically over the last week. Someone who left glowing feedback must have really dinged the stars. My 5.0 dropped to 4.94 for the 12 months and search is standard. How can I improve if I don't have a clue who was unhappy or what I did wrong? There is more than one possible cause for a DSR average to drop (not just a new DSR). As ratings roll off a 30 day or 12 month average, their effect on the average drops off as well. If you received a set of 4’s last month, the drop off of a few sets of 5’s could lower your score. In addition, DSRs were never intended as a way for sellers to gauge individual transactions for possible improvement. It is the overall average and trends over time that are meant to provide a seller with an indication of which service areas might need addressing. For this reason, it would be a mistake for a seller whose average dropped by .06 (especially the “long tail” 12 month average) to worry about “what they did wrong.” DSRs by their very nature will fluctuate within a (hopefully) narrow range. What sellers should watch for are marked trends over time, for example, an average that slowly drops over a period of many transactions. And, secondly? I offer a full 100% money back guarantee. If they were so unhappy with everything from my description to mailing time and postage cost why weren't they required to let me know? You are assuming that the recent buyer was unhappy. If they left you glowing feedback, they were most likely not unhappy. The might have left you 4’s (data shows that most positive buyers leave all 5’s).But what they actually left for ratings is anonymous so it would be a mistake to make assumptions on single transactions. You are wrong when you say small sellers can't be hurt by one or two dingbat buyers. I was! I call them dingbat buyers because they hide behind positive statements and then destroy the sellers! Although it will always be a matter of opinion, and although I fully acknowledging that all sellers rightfully prefer to see ratings move up as opposed to down, I strongly disagree that a fluctuation of .06 in a 12 month average is evidence that a single buyer (or even two buyers) can “destroy” a seller. Your 12 month average of 4.96 is still excellent and does not alter your eBay status. Hundreds of thousands of sellers successfully list and sell with a 4.9 average (12 month or 30 day average). It's also alarming that any seller would label any paying buyer as a “dingbat,” based on assumptions of what that buyer left for ratings, especially since there have no reliable way to determine which buyer left which ratings. That seller could be negatively branding an otherwise good paying customer, one that might turn out to be a repeat buyer (the most valuable asset of any business).
More responses tomorrow at which point I will start a brand new JUNE thread and move this one to the new Ask Griff board. Griff Jim Griffith ______________ eBay Inc


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That should have been http://forums.ebay.com/db2/forum/Ask-Griff/5200000003 Griff Griff Jim Griffith ______________ eBay Inc


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Posted by ozzie3 on May 19, 2009 8:29 PM User Agreement Griff, did you notice that the new user agreement has removed part of the previous sentence used in the agreement? It now says: "We do not transfer legal ownership of items from the seller to the buyer, and nothing in this agreement shall modify the governing provisions of California Commercial Code § 2401(2) and Uniform Commercial Code § 2-401(2), unless the buyer and the seller agree otherwise. " (bold added) Where , previously, it included a statement to the effect "when the seller phsically delivered the goods to the buyer"! Is there an explanation for such a change in the user agreement? Our legal team thought the original language was superfluous.
Posted by tr8rjohn on May 19, 2009 8:43 PM Listing Options and Upcoming “First Five Auction Listings Free” pricing Hi Griff, About this: Coming in June--List 5 FREE every 30 days offer: What is the reason that eBay requires us to use eBay's Sell Your Item form or Simple listing form to list the auctions? Why can't we use TurboLister ? We realized that some sellers would want to opt out of the First Five pricing plan based on their needs. Although any seller can take advantage of this pricing, it was created primarily for those sellers who only list a few items a month. Those sellers tend to use the SYI form. In order to provide an immediate “opt out,” the pricing is only available through the SYI form. Those sellers who want to opt out can utilize any other listing tool, for example, eBay tools like TurboLister, Blackthorne, or FileExchange or third party tools like Auctiva, ChannelAdvisor, Vendio, or any other listing tool. Search the internet using the phrase “ebay listing tools” to find more or visit the eBay Solutions Directory and click the link for Listing Management.
Posted by hawgryders on May 19, 2009 9:04 PM Free Five Listings Questions About the 5 free ... [Are they by calendar month or 30 day duration from listing #1 ?] 30 days from listing #1 [Is it the first 5 listings within the time frame or can the freebies be chosen by the seller ?] It is the first five listings listed with one of the two SYI form versions. If you use the SYI forms (simple or regular), the first five you list will have the new pricing applied to them. In order to select, you would have to either select the five to list on your end or use a third party listing tool to list those items prior to the first five for which you wish to have the regular pricing applied. [Are 10 day Auctions included ?] Yes. However, the 10-day listing option is an add on feature that costs .10. That .10 fee will still apply. I advise you to read through the FAQ for the “5 Free Insertion Fees Every 30 Days” pricing schedule to learn more.
Posted by ozzie3 on May 19, 2009 9:40 PM Opting out of “5 Free Insertion Fees Every 30 Days” pricing schedule. Can sellers opt out of the FREE listings? Yes. See response above to tr8rjohn and hawgryders
Posted by celtictwo on May 20, 2009 12:50 AM Discounting Price for Buyers Griff; I apologize in advance if this has been covered, but after looking through your previous threads, I could not find anything on this subject. When I send an invoice to a customer, the seller's discount on the invoice is restricted to the first shipping choice. Example: I recently had a customer buy a quantity of items and applied my usual (actual cost only) combined shipping discount. In addition I negotiated a multiple item discount with the customer. However, the invoice returned an error when I tried to discount the customer stating the discount was limited to the shipping cost and would not allow me to send the invoice. It's interesting to note that it will allow me to invoice an additional charge way above the shipping cost as I found when I accidentally "fat-fingered" the amount. I would think that good customer service would allow sellers to offer true discounts to our customers that exceeds the shipping cost. Is this something that can be fixed? And, if not, can you offer a reasonable explanation why not? Thanks. I agree. I am not sure why we haven’t provided this option in the past or now. I have asked for it to be considered and will take the opportunity your post provides to ask again.
Posted by carma48 on May 20, 2009 2:51 AM Slow SYI Form Question Hello Griff; This is my first time posting a question/problem for you. First I need to give a little background info, as it may or may not have a bearing on the problem. I'm on dial-up (the only viable option we have at present in my remote rural area). I use Windows XP and IE6. I list using the SYI form and never had any major problems or issues with it......UNTIL about 3 months ago. Now, it's a nightmare every time I list. I can get about 4-5 listings done quickly & smoothly. But then the form goes haywire and starts giving my computer absolute fits! My computer starts processing & processing & processing endlessly. The pages won't load, the typing cursor freezes & won't work. After several minutes of processing & trying to complete the listing, the pages start re-loading themselves over & over. So, I try to close out the form & I get error messages on my blue address bar at the top of the screen saying "the program is not responding" etc. In short, I simply have to give up & go offline. It's affecting my business because I cannot list more than 6-8 items without the mess starting up every time. Last week I listed my first 5 items in about 15 minutes. It took my over 45 minutes to list the next 3!! I've tried clearing cache etc, but it really does little good. What is going on with this form? It worked fine until earlier this year, then everything went haywire with it. This SYI form is so over bloated with code, pop-ups, bells, gongs & whistles that a lot of computer systems just can't handle it. Something needs to be done about this. Yes, I know there are so called "work-arounds", but you should not have to resort to them. The SYI form is the lifeblood of Ebay for small sellers. It should work easily, quickly & smoothly for everyone or there's no point in even having it at all. I'm not alone in this. I've talked to many other sellers that are also having similar problems with this SYI form. It really needs to be streamlined & GREATLY simplified. Sorry to hear of this. I know it can be frustrating when everyone slows down. I can have someone from our product team contact you and work with you directly to see if there is a solve but in the meantime, have you considered or tried using a listing tool like http://pages.ebay.com/turbo_lister/index.html > TurboLister? If not, you might want to give it a try. It’s a free download.
Posted by gdavej53 on May 20, 2009 2:59 AM Where Did the Seller Facing Links on the Item Page Go? Hey Griff. Myself and many other people have noticed there is no "mark item as shipped" tab on the new listing page. Since we can not seem to get an answer back from anybody on this i am asking you is this to force us to print a paypal label? Isnt this just a hidden fee increase. Please dont tell us its for the sellers protection or some other ridiculous excuse. I am perfectly capable of writing my own addresses on my envelopes and need the "mark item as shipped" to keep track of what i have done. I will be damned if i will be forced to print a label. Who is running my business? I thought i was. For some reason Ebay thinks we sellers are all idiots, dishonest and not capable of running a business without them making decisions for us. The scary part is that many months ago there was an ex-employee of ebay that wrote a lengthly thread about some changes that would be coming in the future. I know myself and a lot of others read it and shrugged it off as a disgruntled ex-employee. I now see that the changes he wrote about are coming true one by one and this being forced to print labels was one of them. So give it to us straight Griff and please no "I will send it to the appropriate team for review" or "I will look into it and get back to you" The disappearance of the links wasn’t a backhanded way to force you to print out a label with PayPal. It was however, an oversight. All of the seller facing links on the open and closed view item page will be returned to the New Item Page by the first week in July. In the meantime, the links to the old View Item Page will remain available to sellers of items. Did you know that you can manage your active, sold and unsold listings using My eBay. For example, you can mark an item asshipped by going to My eBay > Selling >Sold. Locate the item in the list of sold items. Look for the drop down box in the Action column and select “marked as shipped.” You can also use that Action drop down box in both Sold and Unsold item view to relist an item, sell a similar item, etc. You can end an active item by using the End Item option in the Action drop down menu on the My eBay > Selling >Active page.
Posted by career-closet-fashion on May 20, 2009 4:41 AM New Item Page Questions Hello Griff, I have a couple of questions for you about the "new" item page. Why is the page soooo wide? You have to scroll from side to side just to be able to see the whole thing. This is certainly not buyer friendly. I have made modifications to my template so that buyers can actually see the whole thing at one time but scrolling is still necessary to see all the eBay "stuff". What possible reason would there be for this? Your template may be causing the page width to expand. The new item page itself is a template of sorts (more like a placeholder) and your template has to fit inside of it. By the way, not everyone will see the same stretching effect as you do. It depends on the screen resolution of the viewer and the size of the screen. For example, on my desktop – with the resolution set to 1280 X 1024 (a fairly standard resolution) your listings do not overly stretch the beyond the limits of the browser window (the following are shots of my own work desktop):

However, at a lower resolution (1024 x 768), the window definitely needs to be scrolled:

. Why did eBay think it necessary to put the "shipping & payment" information on a separate tab? You know just like the rest of the selling community that buyers have a hard enough time reading all of the pertinent information when it's all on one page. They certainly won't bother to click a separate tab to read additional info. Of course then, sellers will again be punished by dinged stars because the buyer failed to click the tab and read the info that is clearly provided in the auction. How many times will the seller get ASQ's on how much is shipping?, When do you ship?, How do you ship? What is your return policy? We will be bombarded with these questions simply because buyers do not see the information on the first tab. What was the exact reasoning this was done? It was based on buyer input who, by a clear majority, told us that they often missed the information in the old format (at the bottom of the page). Most buyers would never scroll down that far. In every usability study with buyers, they were able to find the eBay-formatted shipping information faster by the tabbed option than by scrolling to the bottom of the page past the seller’s description. In addition, most sellers provide detailed information on shipping in their descriptions. Sellers can, within the descriptions, remind buyers to click on the tab to view the information on the tabbed page. Also, keep in mind that the shipping cost is always provided at the top of the page in the area just below the bid or buy box. Why was the "see sellers other items" link removed? Many many buyers go on the buy additional items from the same seller to save on s/h costs. IS eBay discouraging this now? If not then why is the link no included on the new page? The View Sellers Other Items link was not removed. It is still in the Seller Info box under the Ask Seller A Question link.

Why is the "relist item" link missing when an auction ends? This has always been on the page. Is it to force sellers to use Selling Manager? Why is the "end your listing" link missing from the page? This has always been on the page. Is it to force sellers to use Selling Manager? Where is the "report an unpaid item" link? Same as those above, it's gone. Why? As stated in a previous response above, this was an oversight. The links will be returned to the New View Item page in the first week of July. Until then, sellers can view their items through the old view item page.


Posted by career-closet-fashion on May 20, 2009 4:51 AM Pinks on Board. Will there ever be a more "pink" presence on any of the specific discussion boards? You know where we can ask questions and get real answers in a timely manner on important issues, for instance Trust and Safety? or Paypal when there are issues that need to be addressed? Much like a customer support person that could answer questions and anyone who frequents to boards could be abreast of odd situations and what will happen or how situations should be handled etc. I think this would be a good move for eBay. It would go a long way in servicing your customers. At one time we had this but eBay saw fit to get rid of it. Now they just delete posts when they are not to their liking, that is the only presence that we see on the boards at all. There are more employees who are setting up pink ids, (and going through the training to post which I provide by the way), with the intention of posting information and responses to questions and issues specific to their area of expertise, so yes, there will be more of a pink presence in that regard over the coming months. . For example, a product team member working on a particular tool or new feature. However, there are no plans at this time to introduce a general customer service pink presence to the Discussion Forums. Yes, we did have an eBay Customer Support thread way back when. (Remember, I have been here on these forums as an eBay rep, off and on since 1996. I actually set up that first eBay Support forum back in 1997 and helped staff it for the following two years before moving to Salt Lake City). The primary purpose today of the forums is to provide a location for buyers and sellers to discuss eBay. Timely issues should be addressed directly to CS via the various channels available on the Help link or in the Resolutions center.
Posted by mimiluvspappy13 on May 20, 2009 5:05 AM Accepted Payment Questions "There seems to be some confusion about this, but to me it would violate this part of the accepted payments policy: [sellers may not] Discourage buyers from using any payment method the seller specified in the listing If this isn't allowed, what repercussions are there for sellers who do this? , None. See my answer above " I am not that poster you responded to but this is still confusing to me. It contradicts what the poster copied from the accepted payments policy, it contradicts the FAQs pages on the original announcement on paperless payments and it contradicts this post from the paperless payments policy workshop where it says some form of electronic payment must always be an option for buyers. To me an option is a choice. You are stating that all that wording is wrong and it is not really a option or choice a buyer can make? Very confusing wording then if the buyer cannot actually make that choice. This is the post from the workshop I am referring to: monicab@ebay.com View Listings | Report Aug-28-08 12:12 PDT 5 of 173 Payment on pickup Buyers may choose whatever payment method seller and buyer agree to when they pay on pickup, including checks, money orders and cash. Also note that sellers may not select "pay on pickup" as a sole payment option in their listing. At least one of the approved electronic payment methods must always be an option for buyers. That pinks reply is the same as the info that was on the FAQs pages from the announcement on paperless payments shown below: What payment methods can a buyer choose when paying on pickup? Buyers may choose whatever payment method seller and buyer agree to when they pay on pickup, including checks, money orders and cash. A seller may specify "Contact me for payment methods to pay on pickup". However, sellers are not allowed to request payment by prohibited payment methods. Also note, sellers may not select "pay on pickup" as a sole payment option in their listing. At least one of the approved electronic payment methods must always be an option for buyers. PayPal Seller Protection is not available for transactions paid by PayPal where the seller allows payment on pickup. The following are on the policy page for Accepted Payments: For most categories, sellers need to offer one or more of the Accepted Payment options on the list we provide here: http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/accepted-payments-policy.html In addition, a seller may also offer to accept payment upon pickup. Sellers who offer payment upon pickup may include this statement in their listings: “Contact me for payment methods to pay on pickup.” Now, here’s what the policy doesn’t state explicitly but what is implied: When a buyer contacts a seller to inquire about local pickup, that seller can state, “I only accept cash/check/money order for local pickup.” A seller is not in violation of the rules if he or she informs a buyer, upon inquiry, that local pickup is cash/check/money order only. That is up to the seller. If a buyer who wants to pick up the item themselves doesn’t contact the seller and instead issues payment via, say, PayPal (when the seller’s intent was to only accept cash or check or money order for local pickup), that seller can refund the buyer’s payment and inform them of their accepted payments for local pickup. If a buyer demands to pay with one of the options on the Accepted Payment list for a local pickup, the seller can refuse to accept the payment, refund it if it is made, and, if the buyer refuses to abide by the seller’s payment options for local pickup, refuse to sell the item to the buyer otherwise and file a UPI. To summarize: If you provide for local pickup, you can set what payment is allowed. For local pickup, those include cash, check or money order. Why don’t we allow sellers to state Cash/Check/Money Order Only for Pick Up instead of “contact me for payment methods to pay on pickup?”
  1. The words “cash” “check” or “money order” could cause the listing to be caught in the text filter and possibly ended.
  2. The inclusion of the words “cash” “check” or “money order” could lead the buyer to believe that those are acceptable payment options for the listing for all delivery options. This would work against our intent in creating the policy which was to limit payment for most categories to only accepted online (electronic – i.e. verifiable) payment options.
However, the wording of the policy ("sellers may not discourage a buyer...") should be reworded to eliminate the confusion some sellers may have about the Local Pickup exceptions. I will forward it to T&S for their attention.

More responses tomorrow. NOTE: Previous Ask Griff Threads now have their own home: Link The current month's thread will be the only one tacked on top of Seller Central. Thanks, Griff Griff Jim Griffith ______________ eBay Inc


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Re: Ask Griff - April 2009
May 26, 2009 01:28 PM
NOTE: Previous Ask Griff Threads now have their own home: http://forums.ebay.com/db2/forum/Ask-Griff/5200000003 The current month's thread will be the only one tacked on top of Seller Central. Thanks, Griff Griff Jim Griffith ______________ eBay Inc


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Thanks everyone. That is about 50 posts (give or take a few). I will close the thread for now, create responses, and post them at the beginning of next week. regards, Griff Jim Griffith ____________ eBay Inc Griff Jim Griffith ______________ eBay Inc


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Re: Ask Griff - April 2009
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Hello all, Not surprisingly, there were many questions and comments posted about the initial revisions to the User Agreement, specifically, the rather onerous language regarding the buyer destroying an item deemed “not authentic” as a requirement for receiving a refund. Since the posting of these questions and comments, the revision itself has been revised and the language regarding destroying items has been removed from the UA (eBay will not be requiring any buyer at any time to destroy an item in order to receive a refund). What happened? In brief, the language was lifted from PayPal’s User Agreement as preparation for supporting the upcoming and new Resolutions program on eBay. After more deliberate consideration, augmented by the understandable outcry from many sellers concerned about the impact this policy could have on their businesses, the UA section in question was revised to fit the new program by dropping the language and amending the procedures eBay will use for adjudicating disputes regarding alleged counterfeit items. And now, on to your most recent questions. Sorry for the delay in responding. This has been an unusually busy past week here in San Jose. I am still awaiting information regarding some questions (Half.com listings display on Product Pages for example) and will post them once I have them. In the meantime, the thread is now open for another 50 or so posts. Remember to read the posting guidelines at the very top of this particular thread. Regards, Griff Jim Griffith eBay Inc PS. Instead of creating a new May thread, we'll continue to use April. Within the week, we will have a brand new area for posting Ask Griff threads. (No more multiple mug shots of yours truly hogging space on the top of Seller Central!)
Posted by ted_200 on May 8, 2009 7:58 PayPal and eBay User Agreement Questions Hi Griff, I didn't see any answer to my question about the PayPal UA stating that it was prohibited to use PayPal for transactions that involve items considered potentially "high-fraud" by the government. We really need to know what these items are. That's a pretty ambiguous statement. Was it intended to be that way, or is there some list of these items that this policy is supposed to reference? The policy statement in the PayPal UA is more about activity than items. The new policy is designed to address the various scams (i.e. illegal activities) that have popped up recently because of the economic climate like credit repair, loan modification/foreclosure rescue, stimulus grant scams, etc. Instead of creating individual policies to address these, PayPal created a general policy to address the ones they know about and the new ones that will surface in the coming months. PayPal regularly reviews publications from the FTC and other government agencies as a guide for this policy. Also, there are at least a dozen threads here discussion the new eBay UA. Many of these reference the provisions regarding items buyers allege are not authentic. It is pretty short, and seems pretty clear. Buyer claims item is fake, buyer is required to confirm they destroyed the item, buyer gets their money back. I don't think I need to write a novel to describe the worries this will cause sellers, so I'll keep it as short as possible. Is there really no other evidence required than the buyers says they think it is not authentic? Is there really no opportunity for the seller to offer any evidence that it is authentic? Is the item really going to be destroyed without the seller or anyone else ever getting to see it and evaluate its authenticity? What constitutes the buyer confirming they actually destroyed it? Hopefully, this is just more than they check off a box that says "I confirm I destroyed it."! Griff, no one in their right mind is going to sell anything worth more than ten bucks here if this is indeed going to be the policy. I'll leave it there, as I'm sure fifty more questions about this will be posted shortly. See the special announcement response at the very top of this response post.
Posted by di25535 on May 8, 2009 8:37 Listing Format No Longer Included in EOA Email? Sometime in the last day or so, my eBay end of item emails have changed - and not for the better. I can no longer tell whether the item sold was from my store or from an auction or fixed price listing. What is the logic in hiding this information from me? And yes, it matters. First, It's important to me to know what type of listings are selling in real time - waiting 2-3 weeks for eBay sales reports is not useful. (And they aren't very accurate anyhow). Second, I keep auction items physically separate from store & FP listings. Knowing what type of listing it was helps me locate the item without having to go to my database for each and every item. Even clicking on the link to the item doesn't tell me what listing type it was - as least I can't see that info anywhere. This sellers needs every bit of information I can get - please - can we have the old email format back??? I asked one of our product team members to provide some information. They informed me that the “listing format” variable was actually removed from the “Seller Successful” email in early 2008 when we converted our emails to our new V4 email infrastructure. However, up until recently some older versions will still going out. Nicole Birdsall of that team also added, “This is the first that I’ve heard of a need for the “listing format” variable…I will be happy to see if we can add the variable back in.”
Posted by hawgryders on May 8, 2009 8:50 “Authenticity” & New User Agreement Question Below is a very nice example of a valuable antique ring that has no documentation for age, authenticity of stones, or maker. What it appears to have is a family history ... Current eBay Auction 2 questions ... [Under the new eBay UA can a buyer claim this is a Fake, Destroy It, and get a full refund from the seller ?] (See the special announcement response at the very top of this response post. ) The answer is, no. This is not a copyright or trademark protected item. The additional terms to the User Agreement are intended only for cases where a buyer has received a counterfeit of a copyright or trademark protected item. [If the seller provides a COA with the item will that be enough to prove authenticity ?] In cases of a SNAD dispute? Yes, it would But in any case, if we rule against the seller, the buyer would still be required to return the item to the seller for a refund. In some cases, where “no fault” has been determined, we may allow the buyer to keep the item and we will refund the buyer out of our own pocket, with absolutely no negative consequences at all for the seller.
Posted by hightides_beach_shop on May 8, 2009 11:44 Tidying Up Ask Griff and Other Threads Absolutely. I will be doing just that in the coming weeks. Believe me, no one dislikes seeing all those Griff mugs taking up space on the top of the thread more than me. I am, to put it mildly, overexposed. I just wanted to add, I personally like the picture with your mug in it but any more, and I expect that mug to move if I scroll down fast enough My question now is, and someone else asked this before way back,what about the pinned topics that hardly have interest or posts on them that have been there for a year or longer? Can you please take a look at them and determine if they are worth keeping up? I will do so next week (It’s taking me some time to compile all the past threads into one thread and I’ll also take a look at which tacked threads have outlived their usefulness and tactfully, untack them.)
Posted by kittenkat22 on May 8, 2009 11:58 The “New” User Agreement Thanks for the reply so far. I am a sole business person and I cannot afford to hire another person, this place does not generate enough traffic for me to do so. I do have mail help but no store help and no lap top. If I go away I am not able to check on my store, and frankly- I need the rest from this place from time to time. I wish I had a better solution to suggest for you but I cannot promise to you that keeping your Store open during your vacation without some contingency to communicate with potential buyers and fulfill orders made during your away time is going to be problem-free. It won’t. There will always be a risk that, even after posting alerts on your Store or eBay listing pages, a buyer will be unhappy with your service level and either file a dispute or leave a negative feedback and/or low ratings. So my only other possible suggestion would be to plan well in advance of a vacation (save up), and to close your Store completely while you are away. This reply below is contradictory as you state it is not about authenticity and then you state it is. You also do not really answer the question about a customer simply being able to distroy an item because they "deem" it not authentic. This only serves to furthur impune sellers as the new user agreement states that sellers cannot hold ebay or the buyer responsible for items that a buyer destroys. As far as providing a receipt or photocopy of one- NO WAY, why on earth would I give a heads up to buyers or my competition as to where I purchase my items and at what price? A receipt with the store header hidden is of no use either as that could be a fabricated receipt. I feel absolutely no safety in your response- and I am a trusted seller of more than a few name brand items. Sometimes these name brand items are not hallmarked even though they are on authentic cards and are authentic items- this would present a problem. The answer that you gave that ebay would require a customer to destroy the item with no explanation leads me to the conclusion that there is no good reason to sell ANY authentic item on this site. These are willy nilly "rules" and made up as they go along "on a per case basis"- they are absolute nonsense. These new rules go way too far in loss of seller rights and leave us wide open to buyer scams. Please read my special announcement response at the very top of this response post.
Posted by kittenkat22 on May 9, 2009 12:05 Buyer Requirements Issue I have one more question: There is a problem in the programming. Many of us have all the checks in place etc and have our listings set to sell only to certain countries. Buyers in countries we do not sell to are still able to buy. Furthurmore when they do buy, the invoice is blank as to shipping costs. There are many threads about this same complaint and about buyers putting in a low shipping price. I have contacted ebay about this but nothing has been done. I have had this happen more than once already. I have checked numerous times -my selling preferences and in each sell your item form. This has been happening since the main selling page went to the beta version a few months back. I along with many other sellers would appreciate you looking into this. I would be happy to. I need the item numbers for specific transactions where this has occurred. If you would send me one or more item numbers for transactions where this has occurred, I can forward them to the appropriate people here for their attention. You can send them to griff@ebay.com using your regular email (no My Messages).
Posted by celtictwo on May 9, 2009 2:12 Buyer Feedback In reference to the "Why Buyer Feedback" question you stated: I can name two: 1. Buyers are just as proud of their transaction history on eBay as sellers are proud of theirs. 2. Sellers, who are also buyers, benefit from the positives left by sellers on their feedback since all positives from both buying and selling count against a member’s positive percentage. Buying feedback can help mitigate the percentage effect of any left negatives. 1.I find this answer somewhat insulting. As a seller, I am proud of my 100% FB / 5.0 DSR's because I worked hard and most importantly, I earned it. How in the world can anyone (buyer or seller) take pride in something that was given to them and not earned? My buying account has almost as much feedback as my selling account and in the past I did take pride in my 100%, but now it has no meaning whatsoever. My 100% buying FB is no different than any other buyer which would include a percentage of scam artists, thieves, and other undesirables. I regret that you were insulted by my response. I wasn’t offering my own personal opinion. It is actually a fact. Whether you believe they have no right or grounds to do so, buyers for the most part are just as proud of their feedback as sellers are or theirs. I also deeply regret that you apparently hold buyer’s and their opinions in such low disregard or that you believe a buyer’s pride in their own feedback somehow denigrates the value of your own feedback (it doesn’t). Sellers are free of course to not give their buyers feedback (participation is voluntary) although why any seller would not do so (out of spite?) simply makes no business sense whatsoever. If a buyer is made happy with a left feedback, what’s to loose by giving it to them? Nothing. I can tell you what’s to loose by not obliging: a proven, happy paying customer whose business your competition would be more than happy to take from you.
Posted by celtictwo on May 9, 2009 2:19 Shipping Caps and Recent USPS Fee Increase Griff; It was just announced by eBay that USPS rates will go up in a few days but I can see no indication that the forced S&H maximum in the Media category will be adjusted accordingly. Will this be done? Not at this time. On the same subject, wouldn't it be easier for eBay and the sellers if the forced S&H maximums were only applied the handling charge. It appears that this restriction is being applied only to the Media category and packaging should be fairly similar between all of the media sub-categories. By restricting just the handing charges, the periodic USPS rate hikes would be much easier to apply by eBay and easier listing editing by the sellers. Just a thought. I will forward your suggestion to the shipping team for their consideration. (Standard disclosure applies).
Posted by enchantedhen on May 9, 2009 6:34 All Caps Shipping Address for Label Printing Hi Griff, A suggestion re PayPal shipping labels: Would it be possible for PayPal to convert the shipping name and address to all uppercase like the USPS Click N Ship site does? Many of the customer shipping addresses that transfer over to the shipping label are all in lower case and (unless I go in and correct it) it looks sloppy. Since the labels are branded with the eBay and PayPal logos, it would to be to their advantage to have them appear as professional looking as possible. I will also forward your suggestion to the shipping team for their consideration. (Standard disclosure applies).
Posted by mygift2u on May 9, 2009 7:56 Logo Not Appearing: Fixed! GRIFF I am still waiting to hear from you on this issue that no one has documented. I can also forward you the email from tech support where they state it IS A KNOWN issue. This one required a lot of digging deep into the code base to duplicate and uncover the source. Persistence paid off. One of our intrepid engineers found a little piece of code that was wiping the Stores logo from some (not all) seller outgoing email templates created in Selling Manager. (I followed up with you over the last week in emails). The last word was today: the fix is set to roll either today or over the weekend. Uncle Griff Once this is fixed, you will be getting some FREE soap! thanks!!!!!!!!!! It is finally fixed. (And thank you for the offer of the soap but I cannot except gifts for doing my job, so I bought some soap from you instead. Nice soap, btw!).
Posted by anastasiatx on May 9, 2009 8:14 Store Logo Not Displaying on New View Item Page When looking at the new auction page on a listing that I have revised at some time, my store logo is missing. I am not the only one seeing this as I have seen several threads about this problem on the SC board. I called and spoke to an eBay rep and was told that it was probably just happening when using IE browser and that would only affect 2% of viewers. That is not a satisfactory answer and I would appreciate it if you could look into this and see about getting it fixed. I have forwarded your post to the New View Item team for their attention. They have informed me that this will be remedied. (Logos will display).
Posted by dvdguaranteed on May 9, 2009 8:19 PayPal Issues Griff, from a previous question I had -- not sure what month it was -- but basically my question was about PayPal and their lack of support for Quicken downloads. You mentioned they have no plans to support the QFX download (your words were that they had no plans to support Quicken 2009, but really it is they don't support anything past Quicken 2005, because Quicken 2005 and earlier versions are the only ones that support the QIF download which is what PayPal currently provides as a "Quicken Option") so, in order to keep track of things, I rely heavily on the running total which USED to be in the last column of the Account Overview and Account History screens -- it showed the current balance after each transaction in that far right column. Now, that column is gone -- there is no running total, so I can no longer verify or check the totals after each transaction - I can only verify the actual balance. Why the heck would they take that out? I sent a complaint via email to PayPal customer service, but I'm hoping that others are bothered by it as well and it's not just me. Hope this makes sense. It does. I saw the same thing in my own PayPal account. I sent this off to PayPal and they responded that May 13th that the column had been restored to the Account Overview page on May 11th. As for the Quicken/Quickbooks issue, I am following up and as soon as I have a response, I will post it.
Posted by hawgryders on May 9, 2009 8:57 30 Day Fixed Price and Best Offer Limits One to forward ... [Since the Fixed Price format includes 30 day durations shouldn't the Best Offer option be updated to remove the 48 hour time limit and shouldn't there be an unlimited number of counter-offers allowed ?] I tried to think of a reason why we would include a 48 hour time limit for Best Offer for 30 Day FP listings and could not think of a single one. I did send this off to the policy team for their consideration.
Posted by buyalot! On May 9, 2009 9:20 Feedback Questions Sellers Boost Feedback By Buying > "What is the purpose of buyer FB?" > I can name two: 1. Buyers are just as proud of their transaction history on eBay as sellers are proud of theirs. 2. Sellers, who are also buyers, benefit from the positives left by sellers on their feedback since all positives from both buying and selling count against a member’s positive percentage. Buying feedback can help mitigate the percentage effect of any left negatives. That begs the question. Doesn't that mean that a poor seller can use buying as a tool to manipulate feedback? Not really. A “poor seller” cannot avoid low buyer ratings and their own possible negative feedback ratings. How is judging a seller's postive rating and percentage based on buying activity, which is positive-only, an indicator of the seller's performance? It was even a stretch when buyers could receive negs, but now it is unfathomable. I agree with you on that one and this could change in the future, but for now, it is how the system works (legacy I suppose). I cannot pretend otherwise, so sellers can increase their positive percentage by adding buyer feedback for their purchases. I think sellers ought to be rated based on selling activity, not on how much money they spend buying junk on eBay. Many eBay sellers are also buyers and many of them do not buy “junk.” Fees As you are aware and point out on occasion, the last announcement release did not include a fee hike. However there are several new programs that eBay is monetizing like Bucks and Resolutions. Obviously the money has to come from somewhere and obviously to announce a fee hike at the same time would make the connection obvious to sellers and reduce support for those eBay programs. Neither eBay Bucks or Resolutions are by any stretch of the imagination, monetizing projects for eBay. They are rather large expenditures that we are making as an investment in your businesses (and they will only return anything to eBay Inc if they are successful, which is to say, if YOU are successful when buyers redeem coupons or eBay Bucks on your listings. eBay Bucks, for example, is funded our of eBay’s pocket, period. It is not in any way, shape or form a fee hike nor are the funds used to provide eBay Bucks coming from any fee hike, overt or covert. We are giving your buyers money to spend on your items. I cannot think of a single reason why any business person would disparage this type of program. As for Resolutions, in some cases, sellers will be required to refund buyers (in exchange for the returned item) but make no mistake, eBay is also refunding a large percentage of claims with no consequence (recoupment) from the seller. With that in mind, is eBay going to have a fee hike later this year? There are no plans for fee increases. There are plans for continued fee reductions. Shipping Limits And Calculator eBay's arbitrary shipping limits hurt sellers who use FedEx, because we can't use the shipping calculator to charge actual cost nor can we even use the UPS rates without labeling the rates as UPS. It's very anti-competitive in limiting the seller's latitude of shipping carrier selection. When asked about this issue previously you and other eBay reps have said you're "working on it." Progress report please? We continue to work on bringing more carrier options to the shipping calculator. If it were up to us, it would have been a done deal years ago. It is not only up to us. However, we continue to negotiate with all parties. When progress is made, we will of course announce it.
Posted by lurch-deeann on May 9, 2009 12:11 Seller Protection and Shipping Time OK - I'm not trying to badger you or beat a dead horse, but you don't seem to be answering the question. This is an important point, at least to me - and it is not clear, and if anyone is going to have the clarification needed, it seems you're the only one who will. Currently - a seller has to ship within 7 days to be covered by SPP. It has nothing to do with a stated handling time. Now, if a seller ships outside of their stated handling time *but still within 7 days* will they be covered by the SPP for an INR claim (which might actually be a lost or delayed item)? That is, will this "policy," which includes a requirement for a seller to ship within their stated handling time, trump the Seller Protection Policy? If so, will the Seller Protection Policy be changing once it is ported over to eBay? For your reference, this was your answer: If a seller ships on the 4th day instead of the promised 3rd, we will take that into account (of course!) We aren’t out to harm a seller. We are building a process that will rely on the verifiable information we can obtain regarding when an item was shipped and unlike today, there will be a human being (a trained rep) who can make proactive decisions based on that information. To hopefully even *further* clarify, this does not in any way address the specific issue of shipping within stated handling time vs. SPP's requirement to ship within 7 days, when the stated handling time is *less than* 7 days as far as seller protection in the case of an INR claim. Does this make sense? If you don't know the answer, can you just state that (but also look into it more)? I have not yet received an answer or clarification about PayPal Seller Protection and how it will work with eBay Resolutions. When I do, I will post it on a future thread. Also: re: the potential looming eBay Certified/Approved/Whatever Sellers: I said: I think this really needs to be scrapped. You replied: And I trust you made your feelings clear in the survey? That is what surveys are for. Yes. Yes I did. However, I am also conveying this to you - the Sellers Advocate. That is what a Seller's Advocate is for. In the future, I will be more clear and precisely spell it out so you can realize that I am providing info that I would like for you to take under consideration. I was under the improper impression you were doing that with everything submitted here, but I now realize that I am incorrect, since you thought I had some confusion of what surveys were for. But no, I didn't have said confusion. I wanted you, as the advocate, to understand my feelings on the issue. Because that is what a Seller's Advocate is for. I do understand your feelings about the upcoming Certified Seller program. And you have made them known through the survey. I can also make them known in my summary to executive staff. But, it would be disingenuous of me set unreasonable expectations here. I can and do advocate for many things, including changes to features and policies based on seller input here, from visits to sellers, from my email and quite frankly, from my own experience selling. And I do so even if there is only the remotest possibility of effecting a change. However, this is not the case with the Certified Seller program. No amount of advocacy on my part is going to “scrap” this program. The program is on schedule and it will launch. I cannot make everyone happy. I don’t set out to do so (a fool’s mission if there ever was one). But, I have seen the emerging details of this program and I believe it will be a good thing for both sellers and for the marketplace overall as it promotes seller quality instead of seller volume. This will give an equal opportunity for small volume sellers in all categories to compete with larger sellers primarily on the basis of the customer service quality.
Posted by ozzie3 on May 9, 2009 12:14 Seller Protection Griff, just,exactly, what protection does SPP provide the seller! It only covers none authorized usage, and non delivery, doesn't it? It covers transactions where payment was not authorized by the account holder or where the payment was made by an unauthorized method (eg, stolen credit card). It currently also covers non delivery however, I am fairly certain that eBay Resolutions will take over that aspect of Seller Protection. As I mentioned in a previous response above, I am awaiting clarification from PayPal and the Resolutions team before issuing a definitive statement. I really don't think sellers are worried too much about non-delivery, or un-authorized usage of account! I wouldn’t make that assumption, especially with unauthorized account usage. In non qualifying transactions, the seller could be out the funds for an unauthorized payment. And every seller I know – including myself - worries about non-delivery of items, to the point where any smart seller will make sure they are always taking whatever steps necessary to shield them from liability in INR cases beyond their control. Even if you have delivery confirmation the buyer has the right to return, in which case the seller loses shipping costs, time, and materials… Yes, this is a possibility, one that is best avoided by a complete list of details in the item description and as many photos as necessary to show all aspects of the item. …or the buyer files a SNAD where, apparently, 90% , or higher, of the time PayPal refunds the money, and may not even require return of the item. and where currently a seller can also appeal a SNAD decision. (One of the reasons for moving the dispute process entirely into eBay is to give each dispute human eyeballs from start to finish) And the new user agreement offers no protection, as far as we readers can determine, for claims of fake merchandise. Not true. See the special announcement response at the very top of this response post. In 10 years on ebay 3,500 shipments, I have never had an item not received claim against my shipments! Congratulations! Your outstanding sales record is proof positive that the best insurance against disputes is to provide good descriptions, photos and customer service. So that is not a very big worry to me, as a seller. SPP is not much protection for sellers, but , as you will claim, there is a bit of protection that might help someone some day! When it comes to unauthorized account usage, PayPal Seller Protection offers significant protection.
Posted by dvrbuyer on May 9, 2009 12:21 Suggestion For DSR Enhancement I have a recommendation for the Detailed Seller Ratings (Stars) system. Unlike with a Negative feedback rating there is no method for a buyer to write any comments to explain to the seller why they didn’t receive 5 stars in any of the 4 categories. A new system could be created when a buyer clicks on a rating less than 5 stars a text window could appear which would allow the buyer to type in a short comment on what the seller could improve to achieve 5 stars. This still could be kept anonymous, like the DSRs, by having the comments delayed before being sent to the seller or multiple comments compiled and then sent to the seller. It’s not necessary for this information to be visible to anyone other than the Seller and eBay. I think this improvement would lead to better transactions for both buyers and sellers since it will allow sellers to better understand the buyer’s perspective of the transaction and make adjustments to improve future transactions. Thanks for your suggestion. It has been forwarded to the Feedback Policy team for their consideration.
Posted by ozzie3 on May 9, 2009 12:33 Shipping Cost Question A basic question! Why is ebay so concerned over what the buyer agrees to pay for shipping? Why would the eBay Co. care if the buyer wanted to pay $1, $10, or $100 for shipping? It isn’t so much what is charged but whether or not the charge itself is unreasonable given the specific item. For example, many antiques are either bulky and/or heavy and require higher shipping costs than smaller items. In addition, very valuable items require special packing and insurance. Buyers in categories where the items usually require higher shipping costs are more understanding of the reason for those costs. The issue that most concerns buyers is unreasonable shipping, and for many items, the internet standard is moving more and more to free shipping. Like it or not, this is a fact and it is changing how and where buyers shop. Your company think that the buyers on eBay are incapable of making a rational decision about purchasing an item on eBay? On the contrary, they are extremely capable of making rational choices about shipping costs when factoring them into a purchase decision. If that wasn’t the case, there would be no need to focus on shipping costs.
Posted by from-my-grannys-base on May 9, 2009 1:37 Private Feedback and Town Hall Transcripts I remember they announced, last year or the year before, that they were finally going to have buyers not have private feedback just like that had already done with sellers. As sellers, when we receive an offer, sometimes we like to scope out what sort of customer we are dealing with by the feedback that leave others. For example if a buyer leaves feedback that is negative or neutral or even a positive with a negative or neutral statement in then we as a seller do not want to enter into a transaction simply because they may be someone that just cannot be pleased. Yes there are a great number that find fault with every single transaction and I have seen one that gave every seller a negative if the item was packaged in a few different colored or types of packaging peanuts. Now as seller and bulk purchaser of packaging materials (we purchase a month 300 cubic feet of packaging peanuts and approximately 200 foot of bubble wrap and so many box sizes etc and we know that our supplier does supply some sacks of packaging peanuts that may have a blend of different types when the production run changes). In the interests of 'transparency' shouldn't a retailer be able to attempt to limit interraction with this type of customer. If their feedback is private then it makes it impossible to give ourselves that little layer of protection. We can no longer use their feedback percentage as a guide since the often claimed "YOU CAN TRUST ME I HAVE 100% POSITIVE FEEDBACK" if really more of a joke since they can not have anything other than 100% Positive Feedback. All that sellers really want is the same transparency that buyers have had for at least 2 years now when it comes to viewing potential customers. It is unfair that the reason given for sellers not being allowed to have private feedback is the same reason that I feel it is wrong that buyers have private feedback. On another point when will ebay start issuing transcripts of the town hall meetings or updating the archives. Some of us cannot be around a PC to listen to the townhall meeting and we do not get a chance to either listen to it or read transcripts because the last available was september 2008. Thank you again for you help and I hope this is not too late to be answered. Thanks for the comments about Private Feedback. I have already forwarded them to the appropriate team for their consideration. As for Town Hall transcripts and archives: we discontinued the transcripts because there adoption was not sufficient to justify the high cost. As for the archives, all Town Halls are archived by our producer, WSRadio. You can listen to any past Town Hall from January 2007 on by clicking this Link and then selecting “date” option.
Posted by di25535 on May 9, 2009 2:08 End Of Listings Complaint Hi griff; I'm back. Once again, eBay is sending invoices (my customized invoices, not the stock EOA's) to my buyers with eBay@eBay.com as the sender. This is a dead email address; any response to this email comes back as undeliverable. This is a horrible way to communicate with my buyers. If they reply to the invoice - say to ask about adding another item, or asking to send to a PO box, etc., the email is returned as undeliverable, and I never know that a customer tried - and failed - to reach me. I tried to explain the problem to Customer Service - and they said this was not a problem until a buyer complained. HOW CAN A BUYER COMPLAIN if they can't reach me????? And what about me - am I a total non entity? Does eBay view sellers as having no rights at all? This affects MY customers, and eBay saying that I can't expect any action until I get a complaint that they can see is ridiculous. Buyers who can't get through to sellers don't leave complaints - they leave NEGS and slam DSR's. If I am sending an invoice, I expect MY EMAIL address to be on it. Not some dead-end email address. Is this unreasonable? Why is eBay blocking communications between buyer and seller after the sale? And why is my complaint invalid? Because I'm a seller? EBay says they'll take no action until a buyer complains - do I need to wait until I get negative - or slammed DSR's for communication? Sometime eBay's arrogance is beyond belief. , The current End Of Listing email feature is set to be revamped in the next Seller Release (announced in July, launched in September). Until then, you may want to customize your EOA (or End of Listing) emails. Although you cannot currently change the Reply To email, you can customize the email to include your own text and your email address. (informing buyers to contact you or reply to that email address if they have questions). Go to My eBay > Selling > Marketing Tools. Under Logos and Branding, click the link for Customize End Of Auction Emails. Click the Change link Use the default text template or change it to something of your own. From the AutoText drop down menu, use the preformed auto text to insert personalized information in appropriate places in your EOA message. For example, Thanks again for your business. If you have any questions, please send them to me at {S_EMAIL}. regards, {S_FULLNAME} {SELLERUSERNAME}
Posted by blj1008 on May 9, 2009 2:45 Unpaid Items and Feedback Hi Griff I do apologize if this has been covered before. There is so much reading to do to keep up with all the Q & A. I have heard that there is a 7 day waiting period to leave negative feedback for a power seller. First of all, don't you think it should be this way for ALL sellers, and why not at least 14 days, or better yet 21? I agree! I have proposed that the waiting period eligibility be extended to more sellers, if not all sellers. No news yet if this proposal will be considered. Anytime a buyer leaves negative feedback less than 7 days from the end of auction, it was likely either from a non-payer, left before the item was even received, or after the item was received with no attempt to contact the seller. One of the biggest seller complaints is unfair negative feedback and so much of this unfair feedback is left in haste. Plus, a longer waiting period might also reduce the number of non-paying bidders that leave negative feedback simply because they can. Being a computer programmer, I know that this would be a very simple change to implement, and if eBay truly values their small volume sellers, why would they not do this? The current plan (I am out on the pre-announcing limb here and this isn’t yet set in stone) is that the next iteration of the UPI process, which will streamline and shorten it, will include a provision to prevent negative feedback for any filed UPI report, something for which I am a strong proponent.
Posted by silversands on May 9, 2009 4:50 Sellers Bulk Uploading Listings There is a large seller who is listing his/her multiple items for 24 hours and then has a computer generated relist program that automatically relists them. The seller is large enough that the relisting are probably at a dramatically reduced fee structure. What this does is always put his/her material as new. Which is their right as a seller. The problem is that these 100+ items a day overwhelm most of the other listings in a pretty narrow area. This seems to be a system that I hope other large sellers don't start doing as it takes the fun out of searching or browsing for new listings. Your thoughts? Many thanks. The only possible advantage this might provide a seller is top place in a Newly Listed sort. It certainly would have no effect on any other sort (including Best Match). Since whatever method this seller is using to relist items is available to any seller in some shape or form, my thoughts would be that there is nothing inherently unfair in the activity.
Posted by trinah35 on May 10, 2009 7:31 New Seller’s Listings Removed Why are my listing being taken off? I joined Ebay yesterday. Setup a paypal account and verified my identity. I am trying to sell items that I purchased and so far 6 items were removed. I contacted customer service and they gave me a general form email about counterfeit products. I purchased each of the items at authentic stores and have detailed photos to show this. I am so confused?? In order to provide a safe marketplace, eBay will restrict sellers from selling certain brand name items if that seller has no previous track record of selling said items. The restrictions permit a very limited number of listings at first and, if there are no buyer complaints about the authenticity of the items, the restriction are raised or removed. If you have specific questions about this policy and how it relates to your situation, email me at griff@ebay.com using your regular email program (Not My Messages).
Posted by hawgryders on May 10, 2009 8:47 User Agreement Question As a seller this new UA scares me ... but as a buyer I am happy to see it. I now know I can buy anything from anybody who sells on eBay and do not have to worry about honesty, reputation, experience, or expertise Now that eBay has declared that any buyer is an expert in authenticating everything I have a theoretical scenario I would like your response to ************************* As a buyer I decide to purchase some perfume from a seller who has extensive expertise in the field. The examples I am looking at include this statement in the description "This is a lot of 10 individual 4ml minis of Nombre Noir Eau de Parfum by Shiseido. These are a few of the infamous typos bottles (the bottles were printed with "Nombbe Noir" the stylized "b" bearing a close resemblence to the stylized "r.") The back label and boxes display the correct spelling of "nombre." They were most likely set aside at the factory because of the misprint and thus have survived to this day. I've tested one against a bigger bottle of Eau de Parfum in my possession and the juice is absolutely identical. These are guaranteed absolutely 100% authentic! They come in the original Shiseido stamped shipping cardboard box (see photos)" As you can see from this description the seller has given me a 100% guarantee for authenticity which, given his background, is enough for me to spend $600 with confidence Now after I get them I give them to my Mother who has worn Nombre Noir Eau de Parfum for years so I know she will love it. She has? Does she have any old bottles of the stuff she wants to unload? If so, have her email me. (By the way, your Mother has very outre tastes in perfume. Nombre Noir is singular. Nothing smells like it. Big plummy rose note over a base of resinous woods. WAY ahead of its time, which explains its early demise. But I digress...) However, as soon as she opens the first one she tells me, in no uncertain terms, that this stuff IS NOT her beloved Nombre Noir Eau de Parfum This of course, leaves me with a dilemma. The seller assured me the perfume was authentic, but Mom says it isn't. And although Mom's nose isn't what it once was I am not about to argue with her Now under the existing UA I would simply return the bottles to the seller and get a refund (he has a 100% satisfaction guarantee) ... but under the NEW UA I AM REQUIRED TO DESTROY the perfume since I was told it was fake Nope. See the special announcement at the top of this response post (and I am pretty sure you are already aware of the revisions to the UA changes) So putting yourself in the seller's shoes my question to you is ... [How would you feel if your expertise was questioned, $600 worth of product was destroyed, and then you were forced to refund to me just because Mom can't smell anymore ?] Your question was posited before the UA was revised to remove the “destroy” language but, for the sake of argument, given the vast (and recognized) experience and expertise of this seller (along with his long and exemplary history as an eBay buyer and seller), he would, as would any seller of his caliber, be afforded the benefit of the doubt in the new Resolutions program and the buyer would have been requested to return the items to that seller. The initial revisions to the UA regarding counterfeit goods did not state that in every case, the buyer would be required to destroy the items. It only stated that that eBay may require the buyer to do so. The mistake I think many sellers made in reading it was in assuming destroying the item was a blanket policy and procedure that would be employed for every single case of claimed inauthenticity. This was not the case. By the way ... although this scenario may seem ridiculous it is a very serious question pertaining to an equally serious subject and deserves an honest answer from you as an experienced seller I can safely say that the seller of said items would never have viewed the question as ridiculous. Ironic perhaps, but definitely not ridiculous. And for the record, the seller can assure everyone that the buyer of the items discussed above was very pleased with the purchase and he, the seller, only wishes he could find more.
Posted by marsull_inla on May 10, 2009 11:25 Displaying Partial Refund Information Hello Griff, Would it be possible for ebay to track partial refunds given to buyers through Paypal? It seems like this would go a long way towards discovering which bidders are now getting partials by threatening to leave a negative or some other form of intimidation (give low stars, will file SNAD, etc) on a regular basis. I know of a seller this has happened to and her buyer (from feedback left for him) seems to do it often. This buyer resells won items on ebay so its done to increase his profit. For privacy reasons, it is extremely doubtful that we would ever provide the payment record or any information for that matter - even for partial refunds - to anyone outside of the transaction where the partial refund was made. The best defense against the possibility of a buyer who is prone to filing SNAD claims is to provide complete, exhaustive descriptions of the item, including all condition issues, along with as many photos as necessary to provide visual “back up” for all condition statements. Many, not all, but many of the SNAD claims I have reviewed were for listings were there was insufficient description or only one, low quality photo.
Posted by carcie on May 10, 2009 1:25 Seller Protection for Netherland Sellers Griff hi, i'm carcie from the Netherlands with this question. Sellers in the Netherlands currently do not enjoy SPP. When will this be available to us as we clearly cannot sell higher value items on eBay without that option? I inquired and was told there are no immediate plans at the moment to extend Seller Protection to the Netherlands. However, Seller Protection is obviously something we would like to provide to all eBay sellers everywhere and we will do so as we can. (many of the obstacles are due to the various banking and finance laws in individual countries).
Posted by ted_200 on May 10, 2009 9:10 Feedback Question Hi Griff, I just sold an item, and the buyer left a neutral before I could even invoice them. Can you tell me again why someone can leave feedback without even paying for the item? Why they have to wait 7 days to leave bad f/b for Powersellers, but can do it IMMEDIATELY to anyone else? The comment says "good". I haven't contacted the buyer yet. I assume this is a mistake (I've had absolutely no contact with this person), or they just don't have any idea how feedback works. Is this feedback eligible to be removed by eBay? If not, why not? If not, I'm going to have to contact this buyer, and try to explain to them how the feedback system works without making them angry (eBay's job, not mine!) and delicately try to request a feedback revision out of them. And if they won't agree, then what? I'm stuck with this for no good reason? Why? Sorry to hear of this. I agree that all buyers should be required to wait at least 7 days to leave negative feedback for all sellers. In the meantime, I assume you contacted the buyer and asked why they left feedback before they had even paid for the item? Let them know it is protocol for the buyer to leave feedback only after they have received the item or, in cases where a seller has not sent the item after the time stated by the seller in their listing. If the buyer doesn’t pay, file the UPI and if it closes in your favor, request that the feedback be removed. If the buyer does pay, ask him to consider feedback revision. If the buyer does not respond or refuses, your only course of action is to move on.
Posted by buriedbybooks on May 11, 2009 7:12 Payment on Pickup Questions Pay on Pickup questions...again Sellers are required to offer at least one electronic payment option (approved payment method) when listing pick up only items. Most sellers are uncomfortable taking any electronic payment method for pick up only items since there is a huge loophole in the INR process. Some sellers are doing the following: 1) Offering Paypal and using the 'please contact me for payment methods for pay on pickup' blurb. 2) Refunding a buyer's Paypal payment and demanding cash only on pick up items Is this allowed? Yes, it is allowed. By stating, “Please contact me for payment methods for local pickup,” the seller is asking the buyer desiring to pick up the item to contact him or her before paying. If a local pickup buyer pre-empts the discussion by going to directly to PayPal, the seller is within his rights to refund the payment and email the buyer with instructions for cash on pickup. There seems to be some confusion about this, but to me it would violate this part of the accepted payments policy: [sellers may not] Discourage buyers from using any payment method the seller specified in the listing If this isn't allowed, what repercussions are there for sellers who do this? , None. See my answer above Also, can you please clarify (again) what sellers may and may not state re: payment methods for pay on pickup: ie: whether they can state CASH etc in their listing. There still seems to be some confusion here on the boards. Sellers cannot state “cash” for any listing in any category on eBay, regardless of delivery options. The Help page for the Accepted Payments policy states: Sellers aren't allowed to make statements like: •“Contact us for payment information.” •“Contact us for other payment methods.” •“Contact us for your preferred payment method.” •“Buyers may request to pay by check or money order.” There is only one exception: Sellers who offer payment upon pickup may include this statement in their listings: “Contact me for payment methods to pay on pickup.”
Posted by buriedbybooks on May 11, 2009 7:18 Shipping Caps Increase Given the annual price increases of the USPS, has eBay given any thought into increasing the shipping caps for categories affected by them? Not at this time.
Posted by shopnowbuynow on May 11, 2009 8:43 Suggestion for Including Quantity in Search/Category List Pages Hey Griff, I notice on my “watching” page, Fix Price items that have more then 1 (one) items have a “Quantity:” section place under the listing item. I only see this on the watch page, why does this not show on the active list page within search results, or have it in the custom option area? Can EBay add this to the active list page? This would help buyer see there is more then one available and make it easier for the seller when listing. As show on watch page: 10” Blue widget, mint condition…… Super Widgets Seller (94467) 99.9% Quantity: 14 There is nothing more frustrating then going through listings to see a picture with 5 items of it, only to find out they are selling it per piece, or seeing a picture of 1 item to find out they have 5 of them available, but you would not know it by the pictures. Plus this would help get rid of miss leading titles, 10” Blue widget, mint condition (x5) or 5 - 10” Blue widget, mint condition…and so on. By adding this small line within the active listing page it will give the buyer and seller a very clear idea what is being offered, making it a much better buying and selling experience to all. I cannot think of any reason why not (that’s not to say there isn’t a good reason, only that I cannot think of it). I know that currently, for multi quantity items of a quantity available of more than ten, we indicate, “More than 10” on the item page. This was to prevent a buyer from assuming that there was no urgency to purchase since the seller has, say, 200 of the items. This may be the reason why actual quantity wouldn’t be made available to buyer on the search and category list pages. However, I have forwarded your suggestion to the appropriate team for their consideration.
Posted by bikerhal on May 11, 2009 9:08 Links Policy Redux Link Policy “You may also link to a page in which information relating to your eBay or Half.com items is grouped in a picture gallery or similar format. As with the links to photos of your item, the page may contain discrete links to other pages that offer non-eBay items but may not describe or link directly to specific items on other sites.” Griff: Above is the actual eBay statement on linking policy. I asked what does this mean? You responded to my question indicating it depends on the word “discrete,” but you replaced the word “discrete” with ‘discreet’. Discrete – basically means separate Discreet – basically means modest I know. My apologies for the confusion. So much for relying on fast typing, no proofreader, and the mysteries of Spell Check. I meant to use the word “discrete” meaning “separate.” I can only assume that was the meaning intended when the policy was written. (I hope so at least). So, was your answer irrelevant or is the policy statement using the wrong word? Assuming it is supposed to mean – discreet, isn’t that a bit vague? Can we link or can we not? Assuming it means –discrete, that to me seems to say we can link – how can a link not be discrete? Frankly, I’m still confused. I believe that this policy was meant to accommodate some photo hosting sites like Auctiva which displays photos on a separate page that can contain discrete (“separate”) and discreet (“modest,” or “not blatant”) links to other items. But rather than add to that confusion with more undocumented blather, I will defer to the policy team to whom I forwarded this email and from whom I have not yet heard back. In the meantime, my advice is to err on the safe side of caution. If you must link to a page of your own that contains photos of your item perhaps along with photos of other items that you are selling, don’t have any links on that page.
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UPDATE: I was unable to complete my response thread by Friday. I am working on it now and will have it up by tonight or tomorrow morning. Good news! The Ask Griff threads will soon move to a brand new category board (to be created and named this in the coming week or weeks). This will eliminate the need to tack multiple threads on the top of Seller Central. Griff


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Thank you for your questions. The thread is now locked until the end of the week. I will post responses on Friday. Regards, Griff Jim Griffith _____________ eBay Inc


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Posted by hawgryders on May 1, 2009 5:31 PM My Messages Your response is straight-forward and clearly spells out the limitations of the eBay message system as it is now configured. And herein lies the problem ... When I get a question pertaining to an item I am selling there are occasions where an attachment, a link, or other documentations needs to be shared with a potential trading partner. And as you are well aware ... that can't be done now. So the question now is [Why does eBay feel it is necessary to hide the e-mail addresses of the potential trading partners even after they have made first contact?] We don’t. We leave it up to the individuals (buyer and seller) to decide for themselves if they want the other party to see their email address. When contacting or responding, a member can select an option to hide their email address from the other party. If they don’t select the option, the sender’s email address appears in the header of the recipient’s message. And before you tell me they can click to un-hide the address let me remind you most users assume the default settings are the only settings and don't know how, or where, to look without guidance (you know this is true because eBay depended on this when they instituted best match) We had to make a choice as to what the default would be. We settled on having to actively uncheck the box (in the interest of privacy). Data shows that members have no trouble finding the check box and un-checking it if they wish. They do so tens of thousands of times a day. My Messages is scheduled for an upgrade very soon. Without going into detail, the upgrade will allow for better email tracking and management, a more robust interface (with more editing and formatting options). And eventually, all eBay messaging, including surveys and marketing messages, will go directly to My Messages. However, for obvious security reasons, there will not be an option for attachments.
Posted by brucel64 on May 1, 2009 5:51 PM Two Suggestions: Repeat Customer Indication & End of Auction/Listing Emails Hi Griff, first time poster here. I two questions/requests that would help sellers provide a better experience for buyers. First is a way to identify repeat customers. We all know the regulars but it would be nice to be able to recognize those that are infrequent, yet still repeat customers and address them accordingly in communication. It appears that most of the pieces are already in place to implement something like this. That’s a very good suggestion; one that has been made before. I don’t know if it’s on the immediate roadmap but I know it is a planned enhancement for a future upgrade of My eBay. Second, an option to turn off eBay's end of auction email. It appears to be an invoice and for those of us who rely on multiple purchases it's just another obstacle. I have seller instructions but they're burried a tthe bottom. I've had to refund a customer who paid based on those emails and overpaid for shipping. Additionally, I find the language in them less than customer friendly. Things like "Please pay now!" and "You committed to buy the following item" seem a bit harsh to me and at very least I'd rather use my own message. Another good suggestion (and a popular one at that). I do advocate for making this a seller option completely. I cannot promise this will happen but I can say that the default text is up for review (and I agree: it could be worded better). I'd appreciate if you could advocate for either or both of these. I look forward to your response.
Posted by catbooks1940s on May 1, 2009 7:05 PM Zoom Photos hello griff, i have a question now. at the end of the syi form the other night i saw a link about changes coming in june. one of them said: New item page rolling out to more buyers. New photo zoom coming later this summer. Get your listings ready now. as is usually the case, there was no information. on exactly what photo zoom is (although i can guess), if this is going to be a pay-for option or a requirement, and if a requirement, what are we supposed to do to get our listings ready now it. so these are my questions: is this going to be a pay-for option, or required. and if required, exactly what are we supposed to do? on a thread i posted about it someone found a quote about increasing photo sizes to 1000 pixels or larger. that's a HUGE file. most sellers do not use photos that large. if this is going to be a requirement there's no way i'm going to retake all of my photos, which is what i'd have to do. Zoom will not be a requirement (but it will be pretty compelling). Zoom will be bundled with the Picture Pack feature, which is an existing optional feature costs either .75 or $1 depending on the number of photos. In some instances, Picture Pack might be free of charge depending on other services the seller uses.) Zoom will be offered on any listings that have Picture Pack (known only as Supersize on international eBay sites). Also, Zoom will use the existing Picture Pack image requirement for large photos – 1000 pixels on the longest side. There will be no other special requirement. Most digital cameras today can easily take an image that is 1000 pixels on one dimension (height or width).
Posted by buriedbybooks on May 1, 2009 7:41 PM Third Party Checkout Announcements and Plans I would strongly recommend that all sellers look first to eBay for accurate information and details regarding this and any eBay program, feature, policy or change. No offense, Griff, but eBay's communication skills and transparency are laughable. Always have been, always will be. I will never trust EBay as a company to tell me the truth without burying that truth in qualifiers and conditional language. Case in point: the recent 3rd party checkout debacle. I read Mr. Lathi's AB post. I also know that eBay ANNOUNCED in January of 2008 that 3rd party checkout would be phased out. Go back and check the archives. It's there. So perhaps eBay should make sure that their information is accurate before claiming ownership on accuracy, yes? Yes. I’ll clear this up now. Here is the statement from the Safe Payments FAQ first published in August of 2008 and updated in January of 2009. Is eBay planning to eliminate third-party checkout? Yes. We realize that checkout services offered by eBay Certified Solution Providers are valuable services to our sellers. But they also require buyers to leave eBay.com to complete payments for eBay items. We are working closely with these providers to integrate the experience they provide buyers into eBay checkout in 2009, in a way that is not disruptive for eBay sellers. Ultimately, it's eBay's goal to have buyers always pay for their purchases within the secure confines of eBay. We purposely did not commit to a date except to state that we would be working with Certified Solutions Providers during 2009. Then in April, it was reported on several blogs that eBay was eliminating third-party checkout in June of 2009. This caused a lot of concern among sellers (understandably) The trouble was, the statement was untrue. Thus the AB post on April 15th to provide this clarification and set the record straight. As for the long term future of third-party checkout, the original FAQ statement still holds. Through out 2009 and beyond, we will work closely with Certified Solution Providers to integrate their products into eBay’s checkout flow in a way that is not disruptive to sellers (my emphasis) so that we can provide a consistent checkout experience for all transactions on eBay. If eBay is the most accurate place for information, why has nothing been posted regarding the recent changes to Military Policy, yet members are receiving warning emails? And if there is a policy change, why were sellers not given a 60 day lead time as promised? First, this was not a policy change. It was an email alert about compliance to the existing policy. Policy changes that affect a category of items – that is, do not affect potentially all sellers - are not limited to the seller release schedule, and for good reason. This particular email that went out to sellers of Military item (about 20,000 sellers) was to alert them of the importance of compliance to the existing policy as it relates to US laws. We were contacted by and worked with several government agencies regarding the sale of certain types of military items and agreed to better educate and inform our sellers in these categories about the importance of compliance with US law (which is aligned with eBay policy). Thus the new policy page for this particular category of items.
Posted by buriedbybooks on May 1, 2009 7:48 PM Resolutions How is reinforcing unrealistic delivery expectations at all helpful to sellers--big or small?? As I stated above in another response, the current Resolutions process is in a testing (learning) phase and reps are given leeway to exercise judgment in deciding the particulars of each case. If during this phase of the program, it is determined that the estimate guideline (seller handling time + carrier estimate + 3 days buffer) is not sufficient, we will alter it. That's not an answer to the question asked, Griff. Let me rephrase: will eBay reconsider the way delivery guidelines are currently messaged to buyers? Because taking the carrier estimates at face value is harming both the buyer and seller experience. This is a test period for all Resolutions processes, including the messaging used to inform buyers of delivery times. The messaging will, if warranted, be adjusted on the basis of what we learn during this testing period.
Posted by calc_man on May 1, 2009 8:16 PM TurboLister Buyer Requirements List Update When are TurboLister's Buyer Requirements going to be updated to match eBay's current Buyer Requirements? It is one of the few protections sellers have from deadbeat bidders. This is TurboLister:

This is eBay:

When using TL their less comprehensive Buyer Requirements override those set in my eBay Site Preferences. So all my listings have to be revised manually after they are uploaded. Revising the requirements by using Site Preferences after all the listing are live does not work. Also, in the last couple of weeks all my listings uploaded using TL have had the Unpaid Item Strike requirement completely removed from them after they went live. Again, I have to revise every listing manually because using Buyer Requirements in eBay's Site Preferences does not update any live listing. You’ll be happy to learn that both issues will be fixed as a part of the June Seller Release.


Posted by hawgryders on May 1, 2009 8:21 PM eBay Employee’s Terms of Service I recently ran a seller search for active sellers that are eBay employees and was amazed at some of the terms & conditions included in their listings ... [How can we be expected to figure out what is allowed when your own fellow employees can't seem to follow the rules as you have stated them to us ?] If you find any listing, including that of an eBay employee, whose terms of service violate eBay policy, report them using the Report This Listing link. NOTE: although you did not provide specifics, there is a difference between my stating tips for good TOS and pointing out what is and isn’t allowed in a TOS (aka, “the rules.”). For example, any seller can state “No Returns.” Doing so is not a violation of “the rules.”
Posted by buriedbybooks on May 2, 2009 10:29 AM SNAD Appeals Questions Are ALL sellers who win SNAD claims on appeal given their money back 100% of the time? I triple checked with PayPal and eBay: Yes, all sellers who win a SNAD claim on appeal are reimbursed, 100% of the time. If not, why not. All (100%) sellers who win a SNAD claim on appeal are reimbursed, 100% of the time. And does eBay recover the funds from the buyer. It would depend on the particular case. We do monitor for potential buyer fraud and we do not preclude pursuing a buyer for recoupment. No matter. The funds for won appeals comes from PayPal’s coffers. What is the mechanism for getting those funds back to the seller who was potentially defrauded? When a seller wins a SNAD appeal, the funds are deposited in the seller’s PayPal account.
Posted by all*about*horses on May 2, 2009 10:55 AM Resolutions Delivery Time for Standard Flat Rate Shipping Regarding the Ebay Resolution Process: Griff, you state: Starting from the time and date of purchase, the time allowed for delivery = a seller’s stated handling time + a reasonable estimate of time to deliver based on the information provided by the carrier for the selected class of service + a 3 day buffer. How will that estimate of time to deliver be arrived at if the seller chooses "Standard Flat Rate Shipping" or "Other" on the shipping calculator and then completes the final shipping process without entering any information into their My Ebay? Where will this "information provided by the carrier" be obtained from in those cases ... such as the seller shipping by FedEx or some other class of mail not readily shown on the Ebay calculator? The current criteria used during this test phase of Resolutions for when a buyer can file a dispute claim for listings where the seller used Standard Flat Rate shipping is 7 business days + the seller’s handling time. Keep in mind that this is when the buyer can file the claim, not when it is closed. And note that unlike the current process with PayPal, an actual rep will be facilitating the dispute claim and can, at their discretion and based on the seller’s past history, delay filing for longer than the guideline. If it is determined during this test phase that the 7 business days for Standard Flat Rate is insufficient time, we will extend it. That’s why this is a test phase: to learn what works best and to change what doesn’t work.
Posted by di25535 on May 2, 2009 11:41 AM Resolution Question: When Does the Clock Start? Griff, I too would like clarification - you used the phrase "starting from the time and date of purchase". I don't think the shipping clock should start on a purchase until it is paid for. If a buyer waits a week, then pays by e-check - and yes, I have had that happen - a priority mail shipment would be "late" before it's even sent. I was not precise enough: The clock starts at the time of payment, not necessarily when the item is purchased.
Posted by grandmabaseball on May 2, 2009 11:48 AM 30 Day Limit for Combining Payment The way things are right now, if someone waits for 30 days before asking for a combined invoice, I can't send them one because the items that have hit 30 days can only be invoiced separately, if at all. Why can't ebay make it so that if you have not sent an invoice yet, all unpaid items can be combined? I do try and avoid the problem by sending all combined invoices before the 30 day limit, but there have been times that even then, the older ones will not appear on the invoice. The limit is in place for a good reason. The window for resolving transaction disputes (Item Not Received, Significantly Not As Described, Unpaid Item, etc) currently closes 45 days after the item closes. At 30 days, that reduces the first purchased items to only 15 days to receive the item with enough time to file a dispute claim if necessary. Extending the limit past 30 days would not provide an adequate enough time for a seller or buyer to obtain redress when necessary.
Posted by adrian44 on May 2, 2009 1:11 PM Why “Buyer Feedback?” Hello Griff, I know this has probably been asked and answered a dozen times, but I have been ill and haven't got to read all of your past answers. What is the purpose of buyer feedback? A buyer will have 100% positive FB but maybe they have been a non payer or any one of many things that would have gotten them a neg if it was allowed. Why would anyone even look at a buyers FB, you already know what you will see? So my question is "What is the purpose of buyer FB?" I can name two: 1. Buyers are just as proud of their transaction history on eBay as sellers are proud of theirs. 2. Sellers, who are also buyers, benefit from the positives left by sellers on their feedback since all positives from both buying and selling count against a member’s positive percentage. Buying feedback can help mitigate the percentage effect of any left negatives.
Posted by mygift2u on May 2, 2009 6:38 PM Disappearing Logo in Outgoing SMP Template Emails…Solved! Posted by mygift2u on Apr 19, 2009 8:27 PM Unusual eMail and Selling Manager Issue Hi Griff Another follow up to my problem which has still not been fixed: (I will recap that issue plus ask a new ----- About 1 month ago, the emails I send through Selling Manager are wiping out MY logo and placing the ebay logo on the emails. The emails also say "eBay sent this message to (buyer's name)" I have tried everything possible to get this problem fixed. But all i get is the usual form emails bla bla we are working on your issue and do not have any idea when it will be fixed and we cannot give you an update when it is fixed... Am I the only one who cannot get my logo to come through? When I preview my emails before sending them, they DO show my logo but on the copy I get (that goes to my buyer), my logo is not there.... just the eBay logo. It looks like I am not communicating with my customers. I don't know if this is related to the problem or not but I would also like to know about the preferences setting "Payment from Buyers". I currently have it set to "use Checkout". That may not be related to my problem but what is the difference between "allowing customers to use Checkout" or "Not allowing them to use Checkout". From what I have been told, this is not a shared issue (no other reports of it). I will email you later today and work directly with you to determine the cause on our end. GRIFF I am still waiting to hear from you on this issue that no one has documented. I can also forward you the email from tech support where they state it IS A KNOWN issue. This one required a lot of digging deep into the code base to duplicate and uncover the source. Persistence paid off. One of our intrepid engineers found a little piece of code that was wiping the Stores logo from some (not all) seller outgoing email templates created in Selling Manager. (I followed up with you over the last week in emails). The last word was today: the fix is set to roll either today or over the weekend.
Posted by celtictwo on May 3, 2009 4:04 AM Strange, Unduplicated Search Result Griff; Regarding my previous post on the search for The Tudors DVD set. Yes, as stated in my previous post, both of us double-checked the keywords and other search criteria (i.e.- DVD,s) including the spelling. Otherwise we shouldn't have gotten the suggested other items. We even used the back button (history) to get to the original search to verify the results. We have had some strange things happen with the eBay search, but this was the strangest. We also were not able to duplicate the error when we tried after our purchase. To be fair, this was the only instance we have found of this particular error, and we search a lot. If it happens again, document it with a screen shot and send it directly to me.
Posted by unknown-shopper on May 3, 2009 4:12 AM Resolutions Questions Finally, all details of the program, currently under testing and not finalized, will be completely disclosed upon launch in mid year. I would strongly recommend that all sellers look first to eBay for accurate information and details regarding this and any eBay program, feature, policy or change. If the details are not finalized and under testing but will be disclosed mid year, how will sellers receive 60 day notice if things change because of testing? Are sellers told their transaction is in 'test mode'? Are sellers communicated with at all during the process? You cannot disclose because of privacy...blah blah blah Unfortunately, right now based on published information sellers are not communicated with at all, buyers are refunded and nobody will communicate where the refund money came from. Bottom line with ebay paying out anything, all sellers pay for it ultimately but is the money taken away from the seller or where - exactly - does that money come from? In some cases, the money will be recouped from the seller, for example, where the seller was clearly at fault. This could be where a seller did not obtain tracking or delivery confirmation for example. This is no different than the current process. In cases where no fault is determined, the money will come from eBay’s coffers. In making these decisions, a seller’s previous history with eBay will be taken fully into account and each case will be decided on a case by case basis.
Posted by celtictwo on May 3, 2009 4:12 AM Annoying New Category Drop Down Feature Griff; A few weeks ago eBay apparently changed the Categories tab above from a "mouse click" action to a "mouse-over" action. I find this very annoying. Whenever I move the mouse cursor to the search input field or up to the browser back button, the whole page fills up with the categories list and can't be de-activated until you mouse-over again. It is extremely annoying if I need to refine my search. For instance if I am searching a book title and the results are too many, I will refine the search by choosing Hardcovers from the left column. But, I can't see the search refinement column because it has a very large Category drop-down covering it up. As I may have mentioned, this is very annoying! I agree. Perhaps this could be refined to fill out over a less important space. I have forward this to our site design team for their attention.
Posted by bikerhal on May 3, 2009 6:52 AM eBay Linking Policy Questions "You may also link to a page in which information relating to your eBay or Half.com items is grouped in a picture gallery or similar format. As with the links to photos of your item, the page may contain discrete links to other pages that offer non-eBay items but may not describe or link directly to specific items on other sites." Parsing 1. the page may contain discrete links to other pages that offer non-eBay items 2. but may not describe or link directly to specific items on other sites. 1. says a page can have links to another page that offers non-eBay items 2. says the page cannot link directly to specific items on other sites. What exactly is the difference? I have a link to a photo. On the page where the photo is I have a link that says Other Books. If someone clicks that link, it goes to a page that offers books for sale off eBay. Is that allowed? The answer hinges on one defines the word “discreet.” If we assume that the link to the photo leads to a photo gallery-type page and based on my understanding of the definition of the word “discreet,” I would say the phrase “other books” seems discreet to me and therefore, your link would be in compliance. (A link has to have some sort of text in order to be viable.)
Posted by zboo2 on May 3, 2009 9:10 AM Best Match Search Speed Alrighty Griff, let do this one. ebay.com is still in test? mode til June. EBM is not. There is long threads in EBM and Search about how slow and cumbersome searching has become. On a EBM thread I asked and received this reply from a pink: > checkers, somewhere in this or the pinned thread you asked if we were having the same slowness on ebay.com as EBM. Well yesterday I went to .com and ran a search or two under the new format and yes it seemed identical to new EBM. However, I opted out of it and did the same search and guess what. Same, fast speed as the old EBM. > Now what was it that is wrong with my computer, I forgot? Thanks for responding zboo. Nothing wrong with your computer. -checkers I think his answer "nothing wrong with your computer" is correct. We know EBM and .com will not be reversed, the opt out button will be gone from both. The only answers from pinks on both threads is we're working on it, send us your specific search, etc. Is ebay's answer to this nightmare to fix on a search by search, item by item basis? Will anything that is being "worked" on bring search speed to at least what is was, it is advertised as faster? I certainly hope so. The plan is not to slow down search. The reason for the pinks on that board is to take input from varied sellers in different locations and use the data to maximize speed, (else why would they be monitoring that thread?)
Posted by lindaspostcardsandmore on May 3, 2009 9:11 AM Certified Seller Program Question Griff: Regarding the new "Certified Seller" or "Approved seller" or whatever it will be called, you said: I am 100% for a program of this nature. Why? Because it will recognize first-and-foremost, seller quality, instead of quantity (customer satisfaction v.s. sales volume). In fact, sales volume in dollars will not be a factor for membership. This new program will will be attainable by any seller, small or large, regardless of category, with a high quality of customer service, and it will provide solid, tangible benefits to those sellers (said benefits will be announced upon launch of the final program in the future). It will definitely not be called “approved seller,” (what an odious term!) I also took the survey and it continued to stress sales of $1000 a month as a qualifying factor. I pointed out that that is more rigid than currently required since you can be a power seller with only 100 sales a month. This survey didn’t announce the final features of the program. It asked for your opinion on or your rating for possible features of a program. They did ask if I would like it better if there were "no" monthly qualifying sales figures. I replied yes. Like I said… So, are you saying the final program will definitely NOT require the $1000 a month is sales? That is correct. One of the requirements for inclusion in the program will be based on a minimum number of transactions (roughly 10 per month), not a minimum dollar amount. If not, I think it is a great program and the little certified logo looked great. Glad you like it!
Posted by dans_auctions on May 3, 2009 9:20 AM DSRs I have a question for you Griff, How does eBay differentiate Quickly vs. Very Quickly on DSR? Is this related to buyers at all? We don’t differentiate it. Buyers do. We don’t leave ratings and we don’t advise buyers on which ratings to leave. I am once again facing suspension for being below 4.3 on shipping time. I always list the shipping method and most items are shipped within 1 business day. Hence, they are SHIPPED very quickly. Arrival time is something else altogether. This is a very deceptive practice, as most buyers probably think "Quickly" is quite good. However, with "Quickly" being a 4/5, it doesn't take too long for a seller to be beneath the 4.3 average. Have you run a report in Seller Dashboard to determine if this is the case (more buyers leaving fours as opposed to fives?) This was never a problem before when I would have huge sales/listings per month, but as business wanes on this site, I find myself using the BIN and selling about 10-20 items per month. If something isn't done about this, one of two things will happen: 1) I will simply quit selling on eBay. (Not really even sure if eBay cares about this anymore) 2) I will have to explain in writing to all buyers about this deception and that if they wish to see more future listings from me, I simply must have "5" across the board or else face suspension of some sort. I am also a buyer on eBay, as most sellers are, and have received packages from sellers that contain just that (#2). Some even have quality printed/laminated cards explaining the decption and why they need to have "5" on their DSR's. Thanks for your time, This is a much-discussed topic on this and many other forums. In the future, we may change this DSR to state “time to ship” to make it clearer. We may also remove the DSR entirely and rely on electronic confirmation of shipping as a record of when an item is shipped. In the meantime, sellers can mitigate buyer perspective on this DSR by choosing the best class of service for the item (weighing of course, the cost as well). Then the seller should 1. ship quickly and let the buyer know! (send an email confirmation with tracking or the Delivery Confirmation number if possible to let the buyer know that the item has shipped) and 2. Set expectations of estimated delivery time both in the item description and in all subsequent correspondence. I notice that you use Media Mail for a lot of your items. Have you considered using other services like First Class or Parcel Post? Yes, the costs can be higher (though I suspect not always with First Class for single comic books) but the delivery times are shorter and shorter delivery times will result in a higher DSR for Shipping Time and as you are a PowerSeller, qualify you for final value fee discounts. As for the inserts that many sellers are using to inform their buyers about the importance of DSRs, etc… initially I was 100% for them. If they work, then mazeltov! I am still in favor but with a caveat: any seller providing information to a buyer about the importance of ratings would be well-served by structuring this information in a way that focuses on the buyer, not the seller. Buyers are, for the most part, uninterested in the needs of a seller and some might become resentful if the gist of the parcel communication is how important it is for the buyer to help the seller. With this in mind, a good strategy would be to point out how important it is for you, the seller, that the buyer has had a good experience (and it should be important to you, else that buyer might not come back and shop for more of your wares). Let the buyer know that you strive to provide 5-star service with same or next day shipping. Provide a short handwritten note on the invoice, thanking them for their business. Express a hope that they will check out your eBay Store soon for more great stuff, etc. This approach is much more effective than begging for ratings or whining to a buyer about how you could loose your status if they don’t rate you all fives. I care of course. I care about all sellers. But the reality with most buyers is, they don’t and they could resent you for begging or alarming them with the very same low ratings you are trying to avoid.
Posted by tr8rjohn on May 3, 2009 9:57 AM Best Match Search Speed Hi Griff, me again I'm still frustrated with the Motors Search which continues to be flaky at best, and useless at worst - as is well documented on these boards and especially the EBM board. I won't drag all that up again. My question is a technical question as it applies to Customer Service response to BM/Search. (preamble): Given that we ('we' being the common ebay user) seem to be the only ones who have problems finding parts, and the eBay staff seems to have no problem at all, or they are unable to duplicate the issues on their computers . . . (question): Are the computers at eBay (for the personnel's use) are already optimized, in some way, for eBay performance? I assure you, no, they are not (I wish they were!) (question): Re Slow searches and returns: does eBay personnel have some sort of an awesome broadband connection available that masks the page load problems such as those of us with inferior (DSL in my case) connections experience? At most eBay locations, internet access is reached via a local network then to the outside world by a T1 line. Some smaller offices have DSL access (post-amble): If this is true, it could go a long way to explain the glaring disconnect between user-search and CS/employee-search. These people who are trying to get SOMEBODY to listen are running into a brick wall. They are not newbies, they know how to do a search, they know what they want and they are not finding it even though it is most likely there for the taking. Somethin' aint right. Except if the speed issue is due to the speed of a user’s connection, then it isn’t an eBay issue. (However, it appears some of the posters who have complained also have DSL or faster connections). I have a low rated DSL connection through ATT at home and I have not had any speed issues with the new Best Match search. I have had speed issues occasionally with loading a results page in the old format though.
Posted by certifiedba on May 3, 2009 10:45 AM Dispute and Feedback Questions Because I offer a no questions Money Back Guarantee and Always provide my buyers with excellent customer service I've found that I am sometimes taken advantage of and treated unfairly by some purchasers. For instance, I recently sold an item to a buyer and shipped the very same day (within 10 minutes of payment) to his paypal confirmed address. The buyer then sent me an email a day later instructing me to send it elsewhere because he had moved. I was forced to cancel the package in mid shipment and have it returned to me. My total shipping costs with insurance were over $30. After I reshipped to his non confirmed address (which I know is a dangerous thing to do) and paid another $30 somehow the package was "lost." I was able to speak t the buyer over the phone and told him I was very very sorry that this had happened and I immediately sent him a full refund even though I was already at a loss of $60 in shipping and a $125 product. I then filed a claim with the United States Postal Service for my insurance money. About two weeks later I received a proof of delivery from the post office and a threatening letter that mail insurance fraud was a felony. I contacted the buyer by telephone and he told me it had slipped his mind to let me know that he had received the package. I asked him if he would please pay me for the original amount of the transaction that I had previously refunded him and he said he would mail me a check. It has been weeks and I get no answer from the buyer when I try to contact him and still no check. My question is not directly in regards to recouping my money. My question is: How can I as an honest seller defend myself against a fraudulent or dishonest buyer without being scared that I might get a negative feedback out of spite from that buyer? There is always a chance that you might receive a negative feedback from a buyer, regardless if they are fraudulent or dishonest in intent and action. In this particular case, I would have proceeded as you did up to the point where you say the parcel was “lost.” Did the buyer inform you that the parcel was lost? How much time had elapsed? Since the parcel had Delivery Confirmation, I would have responded to the buyer that the best course of action under the circumstances, - unspoken of course, but those circumstances would be the failure of the first attempt to a buyer-supplied bad address – was to follow the Delivery Confirmation status online. I would have also shared the DC number with him. (By the way, for shipments within the USA, ALL PayPal addresses are valid, even if unconfirmed, that is, if you ship to an unconfirmed address supplied by PayPal, you are still covered by Seller Protection.) Then I would have waited and tracked the delivery through the DC number. The buyer of course, could file a dispute during this time, but as long as you had DC for the item (and required a signature if the item was valued over $250) then you would still be protected by PayPal. Then, when the item showed as delivered, you could put the transaction behind you. Yes, the buyer could still leave you a negative feedback. There is no 100% failsafe strategy for avoiding this risk. But you can mitigate its possibility by the way you handle the situation from start to finish. And you wouldn’t be out both the money and the item. Furthermore, if a buyer blackmails me because I have a flawless feedback rating, How can I leave him negative feedback? You can’t. But if a buyer does use the threat of a negative feedback in an attempt to extort (blackmail?) services or goods beyond what was offered in the listing, you should immediately report the buyer to eBay using the Resolving Problems page. I think other sellers should be aware of buyers who extort money and partial refunds from honest sellers on ebay. I can go one step better. I (and eBay) believe that buyers who attempt to extort a seller should be removed from eBay. That eliminates the need to “report” them to other sellers using feedback (which is not an effective method btw. Most auction buyers bid in the last minutes when it is too late to cancel a buyer’s bids and for Fixed Price is would be impossible to rely on feedback). In this case for instance, if I do get my money, over 2 months after the transaction, Why can't I leave him a negative feedback for paying me two months after the auction end date? Surely he would leave me a negative feedback If I had sent him the item 2 months after he paid. Announced in January of 2008, as of May of 2008, sellers can not leave negative feedback for buyers.
Posted by jay_cor on May 3, 2009 1:58 PM Terms Of Service Griff, I've read time and time again that as long as sellers accept PayPal, eBay WILL NOT uphold their TOS if they contain no return policies, such as "ITEM AS IS - ALL SALES FINAL" or require mandatory re-stocking fees on returns. Maybe you could please explain to me why these two sellers of high risk, high value purses (which are also eBay employees) are allowed to do exactly that. Link Link There are many other such auctions, but these are just a couple of examples. These listings by eBay employees either flat out refuse returns for any reason (stating ALL SALES FINAL), or include mandatory restocking fees if a return is accepted. Although not recommended, sellers are not prohibited from stating these types of return policies. That includes eBay employees selling on the site. And let me clarify how these types of return policies work when it comes to filed disputes. If a seller describes their item in detail with accompanying high quality photos that show the item from all sides, and if the descriptions and photos call out all possible condition issues, and if that seller has a no returns policy, then if a buyer files a SNAD for a reason that is clearly refuted by the description and the photos, the buyer’s claim will be ultimately turned down. (In eBay Resolutions, this process will be more defined). Of those that will accept returns, they fall under four conditions. First, the purse must be proven to be fake. In which case, the buyer must take it upon him/herself to have the purse seen by an authenticator, and he/she must deem it as not being authentic. Second, the buyer must inform the seller within 48 hours of receiving the purse that he/she will be returning it and the purse must be returned back to the seller within 7 days. The timeline is strictly enforced and no claims will be honored after this time period (I would assume this means you are out of luck if the authenticator gets back to you on day 8 saying the purse is a fake). Third, upon return of the purse, the seller's "security tag" must be in its original condition and show no signs of tampering. Otherwise, no refund will be granted. Fourth, shipping costs are non-refundable, even if the seller makes an error in the description. Again, PayPal is the only payment method accepted in these listings. Why are eBay employees seemingly allowed to do this, but "regular" sellers are endlessly chastised when we try to do the same. To say its hypocritical is an understatement. “Chastised?” Excluding me (and I admit that I do advise sellers against unrealistic or customer-unfriendly TOS but that is because I believe a TOS should be customer-friendly and not written to the lowest common denominator buyer), who from eBay is chastising you for these TOS? Nothing prohibits a seller from stating any of the above in their TOS. Yes, in a dispute, the TOS may not be supported by PayPal but that doesn’t mean you cannot use them (and they could prove valuable in an appeal). Even if you try to tell us that they can put that in their auctions but still must go through the same process of us "regular" people in the event of a SNAD, isn't that worse? No, it’s fair. eBay employees do not receive some sort of special dispensation from the rules. Again, there is no rule that prohibits any seller from stating these particular TOS points in their listing. Shouldn't eBay's own employees know that such TOS do not hold up to PayPal's TOS? By allowing eBay employees to include such TOS on their own auctions, it makes those terms look like the rule rather than the exception, and it is completely unfair to us other sellers. One thing this does prove, though, is that the "bait and switch" routine of high priced eBay items is alive and well. You can tell us until you are blue in the face that this doesn't happen or only happens very rarely, but here's proof in the form of actual eBay employee auctions that they do infact happen. .That's the sole reason that one employee requires that an untampered "security tag" be returned along with the purse in the event of a return. I'm glad she has the luxury of doing so, but us "regular" people get told "too bad" if we were to refuse a refund because our security tag had been tampered with. The fear of a buyer switching out an item is much more common than the actual occurrence of switch outs. But I have never, ever stated that it doesn’t happen. Please do not misquote me on this topic. Thank you. No one is preventing a seller from providing protection against the possibility, including me! I have often recommended the use of tamper proof labels for high ticket items as they can discourage a dishonest buyer from targeting that item. As for the “luxury” of doing so, you have that same luxury as the eBay employee seller. Yes, there is no guarantee that yours or the employee’s TOS will cover them in a SNAD dispute (today at least), but the employee doesn’t get special treatment and you are entitled to create your TOS as you believe necessary. (and within the actual, not imagined or assumed, eBay rules which don’t prohibit anything posted above.) .
Posted by ted_200 on May 3, 2009 3:20 PM End of Listing / Auction Notices With regard to the "automatic invoices", Griff said: eBay doesn't send out invoices automatically for sellers. However, eBay End of Auction/Listing notices contain a Pay Now link or button. This has been the default ever since the eBay and PayPal End of Listing notices were combined last year. You do have options (Depending on what selling product you are using, you can edit the outgoing message, make it manual or shut it off completely) If you are using the standard My eBay Selling pages (not subscribed to Selling Manager Pro), you can turn off the End of Auction notices (and by connection, the Pay Now button) by the following steps. Go to: My eBay > (click the) Account tab > (select) Site Preferences Click the Show link to the right of "Payment from buyers." Click the "Edit" link Uncheck the box for Use Checkout. Scroll down and click "Submit." This is incorrect. I did this, and the invoices still went out this week. All this does is remove the "Pay Now" button from the ended Item Listing Page. It has nothing to do with the End Of Auction Notice (invoice), which is now handled under "Marketing Tools", not "Preferences". There, in "Marketing Tools", there are options to customize it, but NOT to turn it off. I VERY MUCH wish to have these "invoices" NOT be sent to my buyers. There is still no way to turn them off. We still need to be able to do that. This has been a challenging topic for me to research but as stated above, I agree that sellers should be able to control all outgoing email to their buyers and I am advocating for that. Regarding Replica coins and requiring they be listed in the "Reproductions" categories, Griff said: I will forward this to the policy team in charge for their consideration. There is overwhelming support for this in the coin community. You may receive additional emails in support of it, and I'd appreciate it if you could forward those on to the policy team as well. It would greatly improve the Buying Experience in the regular coin categories, and would benefit sellers of authentic coins as well. Thanks for your efforts on behalf of this proposal. Yes, I did receive a lot of email this week on the topic which I have forwarded to the appropriate team for their consideration.
Posted by carcie on May 3, 2009 3:52 PM The May Thread Hi Griff, it's carcie from the Netherlands. When will the May thread appear. It is already a very recognizable Help board and it will get even better. This thread should be called May 2009 but there are too many already! I will be consolidating all the past threads into one Master Thread over the weekend. (Maybe a First half of 2009 thread).
Posted by kittenkat22 on May 3, 2009 8:07 Resolution Questions Hi Griff, I have had a lot of trouble getting this or any other question posted. The hours of this thread and the one concerning the new June rules are impossible to get on. I did e mail you directly (not through ebays system and I did put ebay problem in the header) a few months ago concerning another problem and you never answer it- neither did tech support. This is something new I need to ask about. I need clarification on some of the new rules that will take place soon: I have three long winded questions: Per the new resolution process: "The seller will have five business days to do one or more of the following: In cases where the buyer claims the item was not received, provide proof of delivery (using the same methods required by PayPal currently) In cases where the buyer claims the item was not as described, provide proof that it was (using the same methods required by PayPal currently) Or, refund the buyer " " eBay will not contact the seller unless the buyer has received the item and believes it's not as described, or the buyer hasn't received the item after a reasonable amount of time. In cases where shipping time is clearly disclosed in the listing, eBay will encourage the buyer to contact the seller first and not seek resolution until about three days after the specified delivery date. " QUESTION, what if the seller is away on business or a vacation. They have a store and set the vacation settings to "on." When they return from a vacation and turn off our vacation settings there is no way to proove that they were away on a vacation/business. Do we now have to put our stores on hold and bring in no income because of this new lame rule? Of course not. If you have put your Store on Vacation Mode, we will take your word for it and in the case of a filed dispute, adjust the times accordingly I cannot afford NOT to list while I am away. How will ebay handle this as far as being responsible for the time for shipping especially if a customer who buys an item while you are away (and obviously sees the notice)? Like I said, if a buyer files a dispute for an item purchased while your Store was on vacation, we will take that into consideration and use the time you actually returned and shipped the item. I wouldn’t about this at all in fact. We will definitely not penalize a seller for putting their Store on vacation mode. And thank you for bringing this up. We can make sure this is codified into the process flow for resolutions as an alert to any rep facilitating a case (and btw, I am pretty sure we can easily track when a Store goes into and out of Vacation mode by site logs). Part of the same question is, what if the seller is away on vacation/business for more than five days when a dispute is filed- are you going to immediately refund for a buyer complaint since the seller is not there to respond and has no idea that one was filed? I have no intention of stating that I am away on vacation in 600 listings when I pay for a store so I can set one simple message. No, of course not! Like I said, we will take the Store Vacation mode into consideration and not penalize a seller for taking a vacation or going on a business trip. From your question, I suspect that your business is your livelihood, correct? If this is the case, there are several points to consider. For one, have you considered hiring temporary help for those times that you are away? Someone you could train to pack, label, record and ship parcels? Depending on the scale of your business, this could be an excellent solution. If hiring help is not practical, and since you cannot afford not to have your items available for purchase (I assume you aren’t actually listing while away but if so, congratulations!), do you travel with a laptop or where there is internet access so that you can check your Store email on a regular basis? If so, then a good customer service strategy would be to check your email on a regular basis and respond at least once a day to customers who have purchased an item from you reminding them of the fact that, per your Store header and listing description header, you are away until x date and will ship their item immediately upon return. My point: so much of what you fear in the announcement of the new Resolutions process you can actually prevent by a customer-focused, vacation or trip strategy. All it takes is keeping the lines of communications open during the time you are away. (If you are planning on vacationing where internet access is spotty or non existent, then hire help, or leave a family member behind, or close the Store entirely. The absolute worst thing you could do is leave the Store open with no means of contact for your customers. That will definitely increase the likelihood of an unhappy buyer. Per the nule rules: "What if the item is still in transit when the buyer contacts us? If the item is still in transit, eBay will consider the delivery estimate in the listing. If tracking indicates that the item should arrive within the delivery estimate plus a reasonable amount of additional time (3 days in most cases), the buyer will be told to wait and the seller will not be held accountable. If tracking indicates that the item will arrive outside this timeframe or is lost in transit, the seller may be held accountable. The same proof of delivery criteria apply to cross-border transactions. " QUESTION about being held liable for shipping times : Are you kidding? Are we to be held responsible for how the USPS or USP operates THEIR businesses? Are we to be held responsible for acts of nature like floods? You state "if tracking estimates the delivery date": I have NEVER seen an estimated date of arrival for delivery confirmation - which is all ebay/paypal requires- are we now responsible for paying for tracking too? The FAQ response states, “"if tracking estimates the delivery date." For example, UPS tracking provides an estimate date of delivery. USPS doesn’t. For USPS, we will rely on the estimated delivery time for the class of service as provided by the carrier and use it as a reasonable guideline. And for UPS and FedEx, tracking is part of the service, you don’t pay extra for it. For USPS, Delivery Confirmation is either free or very small fee. This will not change with eBay Resolutions. Note that the second referenced statement reads, “. If tracking indicates that the item will arrive outside this timeframe or is lost in transit, the seller may be held accountable.” Not “….will be held accountable…” As I have said in response to previous questions about how Resolutions will work, the overwhelming seller complaint about the current process through PayPal is the lack of human facilitation. For eBay Resolutions, a rep will facilitate every claim and will be trained to use good judgment in determining the next steps in a case. Along the same lines, are we to be held responsible for foregin governments and how long they take to clear packages through customs? This is the dumbest rule ever. This will just make all sellers state they ship items within one WEEK after payment to account for lapses in the USPS and UPS delivery times. Is that what ebay wants, sellers to lie to buyers about when they ship? This will also make sellers stop selling to buyers in other countries. I know that I will revamp my shipping times and probably stop selling international completely- at least on THIS venue. The FAQ response states, “…The same proof of delivery criteria apply to cross-border transactions…" If using UPS or FedEx, it is easily determined if a parcel has been delayed at customs. If so, the fact will be taken into consideration. For USPS, it is not as easy to determine but not impossible. Again, all three services offer online status of some sort for parcels shipped internationally. By the way, the delivery times for cross border transactions will be based on the estimated times provided by each carrier for each class of service. QUESTION: In another section of the policy change you mention that you will refund in a case where the item is said to be authentic but is not. When I contacted paypal with problem last year as a customer and had proof that an item was fake, ebay/paypal did nothing and said they did not care because there was no exclusive deal with that company. They told me that I would have to take that seller to court myself or just send it back on my dime for a refund (which I did). Does this mean they now CARE? How do we or a customer proove to you that an item is fake? Are you now judge and jury over what is real and what is fake without an authentication process or does the person (customer) who is being shafted have to foot the bill for proof like I did or do you just take the persons word for it without any proof? Yes, the issues around brand name products is not going to be cut and dry and each case will be considered on its own merits. To clarify, this particular section of the FAQ refers to counterfeit item (copyright and trademark infringement), not item authenticity. I don’t have details on how each dispute regarding items claimed to be counterfeit will be facilitated but overall, in some cases, we may require the item be shipped back to the seller in lieu of a refund. We may require the buyer to destroy the item. We may refund the buyer and the seller. We may refund the buyer and not the seller. Each case will be judged on its own merits. My advice to anyone listing copyright or trademarked brand items (for example, like luxury brand accessories) who does not have a established history of selling said items on eBay, is to first be certain that the item is not counterfeit (have it appraised if necessary) and to state as much in the listing description (provide photos of the receipts from first point of purchase or an appraisal.) If a seller cannot provide the above, and the seller does not have an established history of selling examples of the same brand names items, then the seller is taking a risk selling them on eBay, plain and simple, and should reconsider doing so. What are possible consequences may the seller face? Possibly none. Or the items could be restricted from listing or could be removed by request of the brand name holder or, in a case where a buyer disputes the item’s authenticity, could result in a ruling against the seller. If a seller has a good transaction history with eBay, especially with regards to selling brand name items, then their chances or prevailing in a SNAD claim regarding an item’s authenticity are far greater than otherwise.
Posted by lurch-deeann on May 3, 2009 11:43 PM Resolutions Questions Griff - thank you for giving the info you did. Unfortunately, it was all info I already knew. I suspect I may have not been concise enough in my question, so will restate it: With the coming new INR claims through eBay: I have read that if the seller ships within their stated handling time and the item does not arrive within the stated estimate (often a very optimistic estimate, depending on class and time of year) plus 3 days, eBay will cover the refund. My question, more specifically: If I state a 3 day handling time from receipt of payment, but something comes up and I ship on day 4 from receipt of payment which is still well within the 7 day timeframe stated by the Seller Protection Policy, will those refunded funds come from me? That is, will this "policy" trump the Seller Protection Policy, or will the Seller Protection Policy be changing once it is ported over to eBay? If a seller ships on the 4th day instead of the promised 3rd, we will take that into account (of course!) We aren’t out to harm a seller. We are building a process that will rely on the verifiable information we can obtain regarding when an item was shipped and unlike today, there will be a human being (a trained rep) who can make proactive decisions based on that information. Furthermore, it is good to hear that eBay will definitively NOT be adopting the term "Approved Seller." However, I need to ask you (and you may need to check on this), why did I receive the survey two days - yes, just two days - prior to my posting of this if this has already been decided it will NOT be this term? Is this not a waste of *my* time and eBay's time and money to send this out when, in fact, it has been definitely decided this is a term which won't be used? I have no idea. I don’t know the answer. I don’t know why the survey contained that question. Maybe it is part of the overall structure of the survey. What I do know with absolute certainty is that the program will not be called “Approved Sellers.” Did I jump the gun on announcing this? Probably. Maybe it even might taint the results of the survey. I don’t know. But if I hadn’t made the assurance here, the volume on this issue would only rise and since I know for a fact that the name is not going to be Approved Sellers (the name is horrible), I decided to disclaim it once and for all. Don’t say I don’t ever tell you things before their time ;) I'm now left wondering why I spent the 20 minutes doing this survey.... Linda also mentioned this: "I also took the survey and it continued to stress sales of $1000 a month as a qualifying factor." This was not on the survey I did. I further have a problem with this level. I disagree overall - why is eBay insisting on having some kind of approval/certified process at all based on ANY kind of sales level? Message is - tell the buyers the seller is not trusted unless they list enough to generate enough income for... well, eBay? Shaking head... I think this really needs to be scrapped. And I trust you made your feelings clear in the survey? That is what surveys are for.
Posted by celtictwo on May 3, 2009 11:55 PM PayPal and Email Notification Delays Griff; In response to my inquiry about the lag in time between PayPal payments and email notifications. you asked -" Have your buyers complained that the notifications are delayed on their end? " The answer is no, I have not received a complaint. However, my communication star took a nose dive until I started comparing eBay sales with PayPal payments several times a day. It is almost back up to my usual 5, but only because I have to take the time to compare the two sites in question and take action. Also, keep in mind that with such a minor issues (for the buyer!), there is no reason to complain. With the complete lack of transparency, they just rate the DSR's lower than they normally would. And this was what my original unanswered question asked. How, exactly will eBay help the seller when the fault lies completely with eBay/PayPal? I cannot say. First, we have to know or at least be able to determine if eBay/PayPal is at fault, thus my question back to you. Let’s take this to email. Send me any details to griff@ebay.com using your regular email, Not My Messages!
Posted by unknown-shopper on May 4, 2009 1:58 AM Delivery Confirmation vs Signature Confirmation Sorry, don't mean to be a board hog but I have more questions. You said: And yes, Delivery Confirmation is not "tracking" per se. But, since it is all USPS offers at the moment, we use it to verify that an item was shipped and, though DC won't show a parcel's progress, it will provide verification that a package has been delivered. And in a Resolutions scenario where a buyer is claiming an Item was not Received, proof of delivery is crucial. Except the post office does offer proof of delivery which they call Signature Confirmation - which costs $2.20. See Link Proof of Delivery Proof of Delivery is a letter that includes the recipient's name and a copy of their signature. You can request Proof of Delivery to be emailed, faxed, or mailed to you for no additional fee for Express Mail® and Signature Confirmation™ services. And a related question - if Delivery Confirmation is all USPS 'offers at the moment' for proof of delivery, why is a signature required at $250+? Either something is delivered or it is not. I don't understand. One verifies delivery to a location. The other verifies delivery to an actual person. DC is either free on most services through PayPal or a nominal cost. Therefore, we (PayPal) accept DC for lower cost items as a form of protection for sellers. However, DC means the item was delivered to the location, not the actual recipient. A DC item can be delivered to the wrong address by mistake or left on a porch or in front of a door where it could be stolen. For lower value items, we’


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Posted by celt13 on Apr 24, 2009 6:56 PM Private Auctions Hi Griff, You had just posted a reply to the-cash-man who complained about Private Auctions and who said how they would hit the back button whenever they saw one. This person concerns about private auctions were: “I get very skeptical of "private" auctions as I feel that they are a way to hide shill bidding. Their (sic) were legitimate sellers that were using these auctions to prevent fake second chance offers, and other spam from being sent to their bidders. The purpose of Private Auctions was to protect the privacy of buyers who were buying in adult categories. It has recently been used by sellers to keep "Best Offer" prices from showing up on Feedback Pages.” You replied to their post with: “Good point. I will forward to the appropriate team for their response.” I strongly disagree with the poster‘s logic. Private auctions are not just to protect the privacy of buyers in the adult categories. Some people just don’t want others to know what they are purchasing, period. And sellers actually have legitimate uses for the private auction format. I am one of those sellers that uses the private option for Buy It Now with Best Offer. Because I sell many repeat items, I use the private auction option so that any low ball offers I accept are NOT visible on mine or my Buyer’s feedback pages. This precludes other buyers from constantly giving me the lowest offer I had previously accepted. It makes good business sense. My strategy is not against eBay policy, nor do I consider it immoral. Neither do my buyers. All buyers are free not to participate in a private listing if they so choose. Do you understand my rationale for utilizing the private option and would you please NOT forward the-cash-man's request “to the appropriate team for their response.” ? Thank you. Thanks for your input. I hadn’t thought of it from this angle. There are both adherents and opponents to this particular feature. I will forward your comment to the team as well.
Posted by ted_200 on Apr 24, 2009 8:27 PM Temporary PayPal Echeck Issue Where did you see this announcement? I cannot find it. The only possible explanation I can think of is for folks who already have a credit card on file and are sending eChecks. It was still there two days ago, but it is gone now. It said there was an issue with people paying with eCheck if their PayPal account did not have a current up to date credit card attached to it - they were unable to check out and pay for their items. It said to abandon the checkout process and proceed directly to PayPal and do one of three things. Update the expiration date of the card, enter a second card, or update the card to one that wasn't expired. You are correct. After my first response, I was informed by PayPal that this was in fact, a bug and it was subsequently fixed. They also confirmed that they did post an announcement but removed it after the fix was in place
Posted by ted_200 on Apr 24, 2009 8:33 PM Coin Categories and Replicas Your answer to vedave regarding replica coins and why they are not required to be listed in the "reproductions" categories within Coins and Paper Money was unsatisfactory. You replied: "We can create a category for legal coin replicas and we can take reports of Miscategorized items and move them as appropriate but since we cannot rule on what is and isn’t a replica coin (we are not the experts, we don’t hire item experts and we don’t handle the merchandise so even if we did have item experts, they couldn’t rule on items they didn’t actually handle) we can only rely on reports from other members and even then, it can take 24 hours or longer to move items into the appropriate categories." 1. The categories already exist. 2. The current policies do not require these categories be used. So if someone lists a replica Morgan Dollar in the Morgan Dollar category, instead of the Dollars > Reproductions category, and it is reported, it will not be removed because it is a replica of a MORGAN DOLLAR. 3. What do you mean, "we cannot rule on what is and isn't a replica coin"? Here is eBay policy on replica coins: I am obviously having a failure of communication here. These listings have been reported by the thousands over the years. They will not remove them or move them because there is no policy requiring they not be listed in the authentic coin categories. Unless the policy is modified as I suggested, there is no policy violation, and reporting the items is a pointless exercise wasting everyones time. Again, when they added the "Reproductions" categories in C & PM, they DID NOT require the reproductions be listed there. They suggested this is where they belonged, but there is no requirement. My apologies. I misunderstood your first post which I now understand to be a request to make this an enforceable poliy. I will forward this to the policy team in charge for their consideration.
Posted by robshelp on Apr 24, 2009 9:00 PM iFrame Follow-up and Picture Manager Hi Griff, Thank you for your help investigating the new View Item page implementation. I just want to correct one possible misunderstanding regarding iframes and javascript. You wrote: "No need to detect an iframe that's not displaying because of JS being diabled, since we'll serve a non-iframe version." Well, it is possible for iframes to be disabled in a web browser without javascript also being disabled. So a separate test for the presence of the iframe during the rendering of the View Item page would be necessary to insure a shopper sees the item description. There's no way to make the iframe appear, I'm only asking if there will be a note put on the page to inform the shopper the item description is not showing (similar to the message appearing in My eBay that appears when javascript is disabled). Sorry, I'm feeling as though I'm being a pest about that! No worries! I haven’t received a response back regarding this most recent question but when I do, I will post it separately. Now, on a separate topic... Many sellers are confused about what they need to do to adapt to Picture Manager being retired. Because there are so many sellers effected and they may have been creative in their use of Picture Manager, some unusual questions arise like the following... First, a little explanation: eBay stores up to 6 different sizes of each photo uploaded to Picture Manager: Original, Supersize (800 pixels), New Preview Size (500 pixels), Standard (400), Preview(200), and Thumbnail(96). And, it is possible for a seller to have used any of those sizes in body of their item descriptions. They may have either used the Picture Manager graphic icon on the Description editor toolbar, used the Copy Web Links button in Picture Manager (to get the necessary HTML), or have learned eBay's file naming conventions to construct their own HTML (for the 800 pixel or 500 pixel versions). No doubt, some Picture Manager users have selected for eBay to display up to 12 different Picture Manager photos in the usual places, PLUS have used the methods above to display them in the body of their item descriptions. In other words, the same photos are appearing in both places, but, within the item description, potentially in one or more of the 6 sizes stored in Picture Manager. If those sellers simply allow their active listing photos to migrate from Picture Manager to EPS, will those other versions of the same photos continue to display in their item descriptions? Asked another way: If, at time of migration, any given photo is being used in the standard manner for an active listing, will all the size versions eBay has created and stored (including the original) for that photo also be migrated in a manner that does not change their URLs? If the seller’s photos where used in the slots for URLs that eBay provides (the standard manner), then the answer is “yes.” All sizes, including the original size, if the seller opted to create a copy of the original image, will still be available.
Posted by wearitsatvintage on Apr 24, 2009 9:10 PM eBay Resolutions Questions Regarding the upcoming dispute process change from paypal to ebay: I read that in cases of INR that ebay will determine based on sellers "promise" of shipping time (say 1-2 days) plus the post office delivery estimate (ebay says 3 days in most cases). It say that if the tracking shows that it will be delivered outside this timeframe that the seller would be held "accountable". What exactly does this mean? The CS reps that are facilitating Resolutions during this extended “test” phase of the project are being trained to use their judgment overall, but the template for the time required before a buyer can file a dispute reads like this: Starting from the time and date of purchase, the time allowed for delivery = a seller’s stated handling time + a reasonable estimate of time to deliver based on the information provided by the carrier for the selected class of service + a 3 day buffer. The buyer will not be able to file a claim with eBay until the above amount of time has passed. Once the buyer does file a claim, the seller has 5 days to address the issues on their own (during which time, a parcel that has been delayed past the amount of time allowed may arrive). For those instances where it is probable that the class of service and locations of the buyer and seller are responsible for a longer delivery time (i.e., Media Mail from a rural area to a distant delivery destination), the rep is allowed leeway to use their own judgment for a date on which the buyer can file the dispute. However, I should point out that this program is in a testing phase and during this phase, we are actively learning how to fine tune the program prior to a wider launch. So far, it is working well. I'm taking it to mean that ebay will refund the buyer and then go after the seller for the funds. Not necessarily. If we can determine that a seller was not at fault, we may refund the buyer out of our own pocket with no consequences for the seller. And if this is the case and ebay refunds the buyer prior to the item arriving and goes after the sell for reimbursement of that refund. What happens with the item?, will and how would ebay force the buyer to return it?. Or is their idea of "Holding the seller accountable" letting the buyer keep the item and ebay taking the money from the seller for the refund? So the seller is out the funds and the item? There may be cases where eBay provides the refund and does not require the buyer to send the item back to the seller (where the item has been significantly damaged for example). It will depend on the particulars of the case but there are no plans to make any significant changes to the way SNAD cases are handled currently through PayPal which means that when a dispute and any subsequent appeals are decided in favor of the buyer, the buyer will, for the vast majority of cases, still be required to return the item to the seller before the seller (or eBay) issues a refund) Could you please clarify this for me. If you haven’t done so already, please take a moment to read the FAQ points for eBay Resolutions. If you still have questions after reading the FAQ, feel free to post them here and I will do my best to provide answers.
Posted by efavorbags on Apr 24, 2009 9:55 PM International Shipping Settings Not Applying Now I ask you: Do you think I deserve a negative from these buyers? Why does EBay want to force sellers to ship International against their will? Why is Ebay not fixing the problem that is causing International buyers to buy items stated shipping within the USA only? What else can I do to prevent International buyers from buying my items? We do not want, wish or desire to ship International. Then you need to set your Buyer Requirements. Stating that you do not ship internationally does not alone prevent international buyers from bidding or buying. You must also use the Buyer Requirement for blocking buyers who are registered in countries to which you do not ship. (Click the link to read how.) ---------------- The above (in bold) is your response to ONLY one of my questions regarding International shipping posted April 19th You have assumed that I am so stupid, thinking that just by stating in my listing that I do not ship international, it should prevent International buyers from bidding or buying!!!! I know how to read and I have been around here for years ALL associated preferences to sell within the USA only are and have been checked including: Buyers in countries to which I don't ship Block buyers who are registered in countries to which I don't ship. Yet I am getting International buyers buying my items as detailed in my original post. Customer service are not responding to emails!!!! So, I’ll ask you again based on the TWO specific cases I have stated in my original post (TWO buyers: UK and Latvia): Do you think I deserve a negative from these buyers? No and if you receive a negative from either buyer, it will be removed (I have verified this with Trust and Safety) And I apologize for not catching the “preferences” reference in your original post. I did not immediately infer it to mean Buyer Requirement. Why does EBay want to force sellers to ship International against their will? We don’t. Apparently, this is a bug and is being addressed. (Trust and Safety should have emailed you by now. Let me know if they haven’t. Why is Ebay not fixing the problem that is causing International buyers to buy items stated shipping within the USA only? We are working on it as we speak. (It is not widespread and thus, harder to nail down). What else can I do to prevent International buyers from buying my items? Keep doing what you are doing now. If an international buyer bids on the item in spite of your settings, email me directly at griff@ebay.com using regular email (not My Messages) and I will forward to Trust and Safety for their attention.
Posted by crlrmr78 on Apr 25, 2009 5:12 AM eBay DC Time Stamp Bug Hi Griff, After reading posts and talking with my postal clerk regarding Delivery confirmation and how it's not actually a "tracking number", I no longer include that number in my email shipping notifications to my customers. Instead I refer them to the View Order Details page so they can see the status of their package. I realized something after that. I enter the DC# into the system the same day I ship. Let's say I shipped 4/20. When I go to the page it shows "Shipped 4/25" which is actually the CURRENT DATE , not the ship date. If the buyer doesn't know that's a link with more detail, they will think I shipped later than I did. We sellers need all the help we can get with shipping DSR's and this doesn't help. I contacted Rich Matsuura (who heads up all things “Shipping” eBay) and one of his team members informs us that this is a bug and it is being addressed as we speak. The date that you are seeing is the last updated datePosted by notthe shipped date, however do to some formatting/layout issues on shipping status it appears as if the we are always reporting the item as shipped today. Needless to say this is a high priority issue, and our PD team is working to address it as soon as possible.
Posted by penguinsfan4life on Apr 25, 2009 2:37 PM Half.com Support I'm reasking my question because you did not answer it the first time. In hindsight, maybe I did not explain the issue clearly. I wanted to contact a buyer of a book on half.com about an issue with their address. The buyer does not answer emails. I call half.com, they tell me they cannot help me, and that I must go through ebay.com to receive their contact information. I contact livehelp and they tell me they can't even find the transaction; when I provide the transaction number and member's name, they tell me they cannot provide their contact informaation. I emailed half.com, they continued to refer me to livehelp. Why does no one from live help know ANYTHING about half.com rules? Why can no one from either site provide a buyer's contact information for me? Why, every time I go to live help they tell me their "half.com specialist" (ha!) is not there, but I should try back in a few hours. Translation-they just are trying to get rid of me. So, I ask again, why does live help not offer any support to paying members of the ebay community, when there is NO logical reasoning for it? Why doesn't livehelp know the rules of the sites they are providing customer support to? The total lack of customer support (sellers are ebay's customers) is why ebay is struggling. Although eBay does integrate Half.com items into eBay (and feedback and user id’s are shared between the sites), the actual support infrastructures are kept separate. Not being an expert on Half.com support questions, I sent this to an eBay CS rep and they forwarded it to a Half.com specialist who informed us that at Half.com, unlike at eBay, they do not give out user phone numbers. This is why if a person enters a Half.com transaction number into the Request Contact Info box on Advanced Search, it returns an error. All Half.com support is handled through email (Half doesn’t have Live Chat or phone support at this time)
Posted by austiners on Apr 25, 2009 2:53 PM Final Value Fee Credit Needed Griff I need some help in getting my Final Value Fees back after a successful UPI dispute. The amount involved is very small, but it is the principle that I am concerned about. When we have an unpaid item, eBay should not profit from that event, now matter how small the amount. I filed an unpaid item dispute for item 150303220015 for a purchase made on March 30, 2009.. The dispute was closed with no response from the buyer on April 20, 2009. I was credited with .87¢ in Final Value Fees when the actual Final Value Fees were $1.08. I used Live Chat on April 23rd and again on April 24th and spoke with two different representatives. Both said that they credited my account with the additional .21¢ that I am due, but that credit has not shown up. What do I need to do to get the entire $1.08 credited instead the partial credit I received?
Posted by austiners on Apr 25, 2009 5:46 PM Final Value Fee Credit: Resolved Well, 24 hours later I received email from one of the Live Help reps that a "technical glitch" had prevented issuing the .21¢ credit. This rep went below the ordinary and found another way to issue the credit and it is now showing up in my account. I appreciate this extra effort that made me whole after the UPI incident, but it is a warning for everyone to watch any FVF credit they may be eligible to receive. It is not always credited to your account accurately. Glad to hear it worked out!
Posted by the-cash-man on Apr 25, 2009 8:04 PM Private Auctions and Best Offer Suggestions > Hi Griff, > > You had just posted a reply to the-cash-man who complained about Private Auctions and who said how they would hit the back button whenever they saw one. > > This person concerns about private auctions were: > “I get very skeptical of "private" auctions as I feel that they are a way to hide shill bidding. Their (sic) were legitimate sellers that were using these auctions to prevent fake second chance offers, and other spam from being sent to their bidders. > > The purpose of Private Auctions was to protect the privacy of buyers who were buying in adult categories. It has recently been used by sellers to keep "Best Offer" prices from showing up on Feedback Pages.” > > You replied to their post with: “Good point. I will forward to the appropriate team for their response.” > > I strongly disagree with the poster‘s logic. Private auctions are not just to protect the privacy of buyers in the adult categories. Some people just don’t want others to know what they are purchasing, period. And sellers actually have legitimate uses for the private auction format. > > I am one of those sellers that uses the private option for Buy It Now with Best Offer. Because I sell many repeat items, I use the private auction option so that any low ball offers I accept are NOT visible on mine or my Buyer’s feedback pages. This precludes other buyers from constantly giving me the lowest offer I had previously accepted. It makes good business sense. > > My strategy is not against eBay policy, nor do I consider it immoral. Neither do my buyers. All buyers are free not to participate in a private listing if they so choose. Do you understand my rationale for utilizing the private option and would you please NOT forward the-cash-man's request “to the appropriate team for their response.” ? > > Thank you. I know this is Griff's thread but I just want to clarify. I am all for private listings. I am not suggesting that private auctions should go away, I'm suggesting that they should include the masked bidding ID's on the bid history page for private auctions. Nobody is going to know what the user ID is anyway so why not include them? This may or may not deter shill bidding but it would restore trust. If they displayed the bidding alias that show up on all other auction pages I would be much more likely to bid on private auctions. Furthermore I also think it would be a great thing if the prices for "Best Offers" didn't show up on feedback on regular auctions. If I am selling an HDMI cable for $9.95, somebody wins it for $8 with a best offer. I don't see what the harm would be in displaying the $9.95 instead of $8 on the sellers feedback page. In the interest of full disclosure, eBay has never hidden the final amount of a transaction. Best Offers are transactions. We would not hide the amount of a Best Offer transaction. If an item sellers for $8 on a Best Offer, we couldn’t display $9.95 as the final sale price because that would not be the amount for which the item eventually sold.
Posted by buriedbybooks on Apr 25, 2009 9:48 PM eBay Resolution Questions The competition eBay is so bent on copying has a firm limit of 5 LIFETIME claims. But the anecdotal evidence seen here shows us that certain buyers are allowed to abuse this process without any repercussions whatsoever. That is not true. And in fact, if it is determined that a buyer actually defrauded a seller (“Rock in a Box “scenario), eBay will take action against the buyer. I did not mention fraud, Griff. I mentioned using the SNAD policy to overturn a seller's return policy. Also known as filing a false SNAD claim for items that are accurately described. If a buyer’s makes SNAD claim citing a reason that is clearly in line with the seller’s description (for example, the seller states the item condition as “used”, and the buyer claims the item is not in “new” condition) the claim is not awarded to the buyer. If you have had a SNAD complaint filed against you for this reason and you believe the outcome was unfair and was not reversed on appeal, please feel free to email the details to me and I will work on your behalf to reopen the case for reconsideration. If you know of someone who has been or is currently in this situation, you can also refer the seller to me. However, I trust you will understand that I cannot assist on hypothetical cases. What is being done to rein in those buyers? Each case is reviewed on its own merits. This includes the past filing history for both the buyer and the seller. A buyer who files an inordinate number of claims could face a more detailed inspection of their past history but if the buyer’s past history does not show a pattern of abuse (and filing claims alone is not evidence of abuse), there would be no consequences for that buyer. Claims made for transactions over a certain value (undisclosed) or by buyers who have made previous claims are first investigated by a rep. So a seller like myself who sells low ASP items will likely not have a rep look at any claims unless appealed, correct? That is correct for the existing PayPal dispute process. However, when the process is ported from PayPal to eBay (eBay Resolutions), all SNAD claims will be reviewed by a rep. Why doesn't Paypal/eBay put a FIRM limit on the number of times a buyer can file a SNAD dispute? We don’t use a number. We use a percentage. Using a number wouldn’t make sense. And yet, that's what the competition does. And I have seen articles where that other site has banned customers for excessive returns. We have no such media coverage of Paypal doing the same. Non-eBay sites may have a completely different transaction model. We are not building a resolution process based on that of any one competitor. We are building one that fits what is uniquely eBay’s transaction model. If a seller currently appeals a SNAD/INR claim decided against them and WINS, they are often told that they should 'recoup' the money from the buyer. As if the buyer would willingly return the funds?? Is eBay going to be fixing that issue as well? Will sellers be compensated by Paypal/eBay when appeals are decided in favor of the seller? Has that ever happened to you? (Appealed a SNAD dispute where the buyer had already been refunded and was told by PayPal to “recoup from the buyer?”) All of the current information regarding the upcoming eBay Resolutions program can be found http://pages.ebay.com/sell/April2009Update/faq/index.html#RESOLUTIONS> here.
Posted by buriedbybooks on Apr 25, 2009 10:11 PM More eBay Resolution Questions I have further questions on the new "3 days then refund guarantee " for late orders eBay is adding to the INR dispute process once it migrates to eBay from Paypal. I know where eBay got this extremely ridiculous idea. But eBay also cherry-picked details out of the alphabetical guarantee policy and failed to include the protections for sellers. And it's not just that lifetime limit I'm referring to, Griff. I'm also talking about this beauty: For example, a U.S. order sent using the standard shipping option would become eligible for a claim 21 calendar days after the ship date (14 business days + 3 calendar days). that's 14 business days instead of the 9 currently provided on eBay to customers. YES, I'm aware that the 9 business days is a carrier estimate. I'm also aware that it is completely and totally NOT the average delivery time for Media Mail. Standard U.S.: 4 to 14 business days after shipping (may take up to 21 business days) Expedited U.S.: 2 to 6 business days after shipping At least that other place helps set correct buyer expectations. Unlike eBay. How is reinforcing unrealistic delivery expectations at all helpful to sellers--big or small?? As I stated above in another response, the current Resolutions process is in a testing (learning) phase and reps are given leeway to exercise judgment in deciding the particulars of each case. If during this phase of the program, it is determined that the estimate guideline (seller handling time + carrier estimate + 3 days buffer) is not sufficient, we will alter it. One last point: Colin Rule posted this on the special announcement forum: The vast majority of claims are filed by buyers who only file a single claim each year. If a buyer files two or more claims then they quickly merit greater scrutiny from eBay and PayPal. How does that mesh with your 'percentage' idea/method? Seems like even Colin is aware that someone filing more than an occasional SNAD should warrant a second look. I'd say that any buyer who claims a significant percentage of their items arrive SNAD is guilty of not reading descriptions or is window shopping online at the seller's expense. There is a difference between “merit greater scrutiny” and the immediate ban that you have proposed (based on a preset lifetime limit) or my statement about looking at percentages (the number of claims filed against the number of transactions a buyer has had). Given the unique eBay transaction model, we simply are not going to set in stone a pre-determined limit to the number of dispute claims any one member can report to eBay in their lifetime. As I pointed out earlier, there is a difference between five filed reports by a buyer who buys once or twice a year and five filed reports from someone who buyer 500 items a year. They are not equal and using a “one-size-fits-all” limit on the number of disputes for both cases would be grossly unfair.
Posted by ozzie3 on Apr 25, 2009 11:35 PM Terms Of Service that Contradict eBay Policy Gtiff, Your seller "smartbargains" say this in their term of usage: " 9. Risk of Loss. The items purchased from our Store are shipped by a third party carrier pursuant to a shipment contract. As a result, risk of loss and title for such items pass to you upon our delivery to the carrier" I thought you said that the seller had to deliver to the buyer at the buyer's location! I did say that and it is correct (an eBay seller is responsible for delivering the item to the buyer’s location If I put that in my auctions will it override Paypal and eBay? No it won’t. Or is that really what the user agreement says in reference to UCC 2401 (2) in the ebay user agreement? Which is it? PayPal's versions or eBay user agreement as shown by smartbargains statements in there agreement? A seller’s stated Terms of Service do not trump the eBay User Agreement. The [eBay] User Agreement is pretty clear. It states sellers will not: “…fail to deliver items purchased from you, unless the buyer fails to meet the posted terms, or you cannot authenticate the buyer's identity;”… Further (my underline and highlight): “… nothing in this agreement shall modify the governing provisions of California Commercial Code § 2401(2) and Uniform Commercial Code § 2-401(2), under which legal ownership of an item is transferred upon physical delivery of the item to the buyer by the seller. Unless the buyer and the seller agree otherwise, the buyer will become the item's lawful owner upon physical receipt of the item from the seller, in accordance with California Commercial Code § 2401(2) and Uniform Commercial Code § 2-401(2).” It doesn’t state that the seller can pass the buck to the shipping carrier. eBay will still hold the seller responsible unless they can prove physical delivery of the item. We never support the seller’s terms - it is the seller’s responsibility to enforce their own terms. Currently, we don’t prohibit a seller from stating a TOS like this one. (That could change in the near future). However, we would not indemnify the seller just because they state in their listing that they transfer ownership once they deliver the item to the carrier. If a buyer filed an INR and the seller couldn’t prove deliver confirmation to the buyer’s address, the buyer would succeed in their INR claim.
Posted by etown99 on Apr 26, 2009 10:20 AM Featured Listings Featuring Less-Than-Stellar Sellers Another one.... I'm researching the price of an item. I look at active listings. There is one featured auction for this item. The seller has 168 FB and is sitting at a cool 95.5% FB. He also has a 4.0 DSR. And naturally, he is placed at the Top of page one. Question - How does putting a seller like this, with very poor business skills, and lousy customer service, above a ton of excellent sellers identical items (just because he spent the enhanced visibility bucks to Ebay) enhance the buyer experience? It’s a good point. It’s why we are considering limiting Featured Listings to only sellers with high ratings and feedback. (some of us would like to eliminate featured listings altogether.) Any changes of this nature to Featured listings would come in the second half of this year at the earliest. So.... I go to toolhaus to view exactly what his Negs are...and I receive this message from Toolhaus... Error: eBay has blocked access to feedback. Toolhaus is unable to obtain information which is available only to registered eBay users. We're not happy about this. Question - What is this all about? Just because Ebay doesn't want unregistered users perusing FB, you penalize ALL Ebay registered users? The site referenced above is not an eBay site. eBay has absolutely no obligation to provide data to a third party site or company. Question - Is Ebay going to replace or work with Toolhaus to enable Ebay registered users to view FB history? No.
Posted by joyfull-one on Apr 26, 2009 10:34 AM Negative Feedback Question I am a small time seller who because of health reasons needs to take time off from selling so the quanity of Ebay feedback is not very high. I have 100% right now, but have just completed a transaction with a lady who did not comply with my auction payment terms which are 'payment, or contact within 2 days of the auction ending. So after 2 days I sent her a nice reminder asking her to remit payment or to contact me. She did neither. So I sent another reminder asking her to remit payment, or contact me with her intentions. She did neither. Meanwhile, I could see by the feedback she was leaving that she was on Ebay during that time. I sent another reminder and again, no response. So after the 7 days I filed a claim. The same day I got a message from her that " it was discraceful to file a claim 2 days after sending invoice." I messaged her back giving her the dates of all three invoices. Well long story short, the next day she paid and include a message saying "FOR FEEDBACK Please include your Ebay name and a copy of the invoice so I can leave you feedback." I don't have to be a rocket scientist to know what that means. Will Ebay allow neg. feedback to stand in these circumstances? Barring any other circumstances? Yes, we will allow it to stand. Leaving negative feedback for a case like this is not grounds for removal of that feedback. And if so, how in the world can that possibly be fair? To me, or to other sellers who have no way of knowing how this woman conducts her affairs. Sure, she paid, but only because she didn't want a strike, and probably because she really wants to get back at me for filing a claim. Feedback has never been prohibited or removed because it was judged “unfair.” Some may disagree with this but it doesn’t change the current feedback policy. (If a buyer eventually pays, they get to leave feedback). Knowing this, and knowing that this feedback policy detail won’t change in the near term, sellers in this situation should follow a service strategy that helps to lessen the chance of receiving a negative feedback. You didn’t reveal what your actual response was to her first email after the claim was filed but for what it’s worth, if I had been in your position, I would have sent polite email apology explaining that since I hadn’t received a response, (maybe the buyer’s email filters were moving my emails to a junk or spam folder) and that in order to relist the item, I had to file a UPI claim. I would also assure the buyer that her payment is appreciated, that I was relieved we were able to finally connect and that the claim was nothing personal. Maybe, I would phone the buyer. Would that work to help prevent a negative? Maybe. Maybe not. But I would definitely take the chance. I have found that on eBay, as in most things, communication can solve most problems, including misunderstandings between online buyers and sellers.
Posted by buriedbybooks on Apr 26, 2009 11:16 AM SNAD Claims from International Buyers Griff, Regarding Paypal SNAD appeals, what does Paypal do in cases of International buyer fraud? Police reports are often not obtainable in cases where the other party is out of the country. (I am asking on behalf of a seller who was defrauded last year by an international buyer and was told by Paypal that due to the international location of the buyer, there was nothing they could do). Although I don’t have the details of the case you reference for a transaction that happened last year, we (eBay and PayPal) actually follow the same process for international users that we do for US buyers and sellers on SNAD Appeals. We have received police reports from all over the world and we have had US sellers provide police incident reports for transactions where the buyer is located outside of the US. Since we are not asking the seller or the police to take any action against the buyer, but rather just document the incident, this shouldn’t prevent the incident report from being obtained. If the item is valued at less than $199, the seller can still file a PayPal-provided affidavit in lieu of a police report. PayPal will take the same action against a buyer outside of the US as we would for a US buyer in cases of confirmed buyer fraud.
Posted by acetremendous on Apr 26, 2009 11:51 AM Thanks First of all, as you may know, I don't particularly approve of this thread and do not think that it is appropriate, or even acceptable, to have a special customer service person like you who can pull strings to do special favors for people who email him directly. Because of this I have mostly refrained from posting here (though I do keep up reading it). People debate about your motives, but to me, how much of your "heart" is in it is irrelevant; I simply don't think a business should grant special favors on a personal basis. I disagree of course. I don’t view my presence here or my efforts beyond this forum to be granting “special favors.” I try to provide resolution and assistance to all sellers (and buyers too) who find themselves in need. That could be helping resolve a dispute, revisit a Trust and Safety ruling, help with a seller’s listings and business strategy, help explain eBay policy and maybe provide a little insight into the “how” and “why” of eBay’s marketplace stewardship. And this is not a one-way process. I also take input and comments from sellers both here and from email and in person visits and bring it to the big table. Anyone is free to email me. I offer this of my own volition. No one here at eBay, (And I mean no one) requires me to do this. It’s not part of my job description. I don’t work officially in customer support but I take my legacy as eBay’s first customer support rep very seriously and all of our customer support reps have my respect and appreciation for the job they do). That’s why I am here. However, that said, you are the only source of communication between sellers and Ebay corporate, so I thought it couldn't hurt to post here to thank the company for a few good things. I want to encourage more good things no matter how small, and I believe in giving credit where it's due. I hope you can pass the following along to the appropriate people/departments: First, thanks for the minor improvements that have been made to My Ebay. It's still a lot clunkier and more annoying to use than the old version, but the following changes have been helpful: * Thanks for replacing the total # of bids to the Summary * Thanks for fixing whatever it is that creates the title of each page in my browser History - at first, all the History pages just said "My Ebay", now they say "My Ebay - Sold", "My Ebay - Selling", etc. That really helps in juggling multiple tasks. * Thanks for adding "Messages" to the My Ebay tab at the top of each page *Thanks for adjusting the stuff on the left hand side of the page, it wasn't displaying correctly for the first week or two (and kept reverting to default). * Thanks for adding the Buyer Satisfaction/DSR chart to the Dashboard, so we can see if and when we receive sub-3 DSRs. Unlike a lot of sellers, I feel OK about the new item page. It looks OK, and the new large picture is a bit bigger than the old large picture. I was initially concerned because the early versions did not have as many available options for the seller, and sometimes it is inconvenient to go back to My Ebay to make a change, relist, or whatever. * Thanks for putting Revise Your Item back - in early versions, it was not there. * Thanks for fixing whatever was wrong with Sell Similar. (In early versions of the page, that link brought you to a nearly-blank SYI form.) * Thanks for making sure that Relist Your Item is there. It seemed to disappear and reappear a few times on the early version. And finally, on a less important note, thanks for restoring FULL user IDs here on the boards. The truncated IDs were ugly and silly. Thanks in advance for any further fixes of functions that don't work, or only work erratically. (In case anyone is wondering, nothing about this post is meant to be sarcastic.) Thank you for your thanks! I will share them with the rest of my team (Seller Experience) and with exec staff as well.
Posted by hawgryders on Apr 26, 2009 12:40 PM Why Not My Messages? Mr. Griffith My question has to do with your insistence to only be contacted directly and not through the eBay message system As a seller / buyer I am no longer given the opportunity to contact a trading partner in any way other than the eBay message system until after they pay, and then I am given the outside contact info by PayPal not eBay So I was just wondering ... [Why are we forced to use a message system that keeps the actual identities of other trading partners secret but you refuse to use this system ?] I don’t refuse to use it… I use it everyday…as a buyer or seller. My Messages is intended for buyer-seller, and eBay-to-member communications. However, it was never intended for eBay-employees-to-eBay-member communications. It wasn’t built for that purpose. For example, I cannot forward My Message emails to another team member or department for assistance which means I cannot create or track topic threads. I cannot add screen shots or attachments. And finally, I cannot archive My Message emails in a format that works with the rest of my email (MS Exchange) So, in order to track, forward, add attachments and screen shots and archive email from eBay customers, I need it sent to me directly through our Exchange server via griff@ebay.com. As for “keeping your trading partners identities secret” any buyer or seller in a completed transaction can request and receive the name and contact information (including phone numbers but excluding street addresses and numbers) through the Request Contact Information link on Advanced Search. In addition, a seller in a completed transaction receives the buyer’s complete name and address after the sale closes.
Posted by lurch-deeann on Apr 26, 2009 2:32 PM Future eBay Seller Program Even though I'm still awaiting a response to my other question re. SPP and the coming INR/lost mail time calculations, I have another topic as well. Last week I did a survey on a new seller status that eBay is looking at. Specifically, "eBay Approved Seller." I have a number of issues with what I was presented throughout the course of the survey. First off, the definition currently under consideration would consist of 3 things a seller would have to do (this is a copy paste from the survey): In order to be included in the new eBay Approved Seller category on eBay, a seller must meet ALL of the following criteria: * Maintain a sales level of 100 items per year; AND * Maintain an average of 4.6 or better (1 to 5 scale) on each Detailed Seller Rating (DSR): Item Description, Communications, Shipping Time and Shipping Charge; AND * At least 99% of buyer ratings on each Detailed Seller Rating are 3 or higher (1 to 5 scale) First of all, I find the label offensive. It could easily imply that those who are not "approved" by eBay (which could simply be because they don't sell enough items) could be viewed as "disapproved" by eBay. Oh - and I'm sure Best Match will be a part of this, too... I am not familiar with the details of this survey. However, I can absolutely guarantee that the final program will not be called “approved sellers.” Secondly, I have a problem with the sales level. eBay would not "approve" someone simply because they sell 99 items? Or 77 items, even though they're perfect sellers? The final sales volume qualifications have not been nailed down but they will most likely be 100 items per year. And yes, that means a seller with 99 sales a year won’t qualify. Solution? List and sell enough items to qualify. This comes out to 9 items a month or 2.5 items a week – well within the reach of a majority of small (consumer and hobby) sellers. Third, if one does sell 100 items, it would only take a rating of 2 or lower in either two categories of DSRs (by one buyer) or 2 people rating a 2 or lower in one category of DSRs for the entire year for the seller to suddenly be "disapproved" by eBay. No, that is not necessarily correct. We are also reviewing how DSRs might factor into the final program. Given the fact that you state you always leave feedback for the buyer at payment, do you see the irony that it looks like you would not be an eBay Approved Seller if this went into place tomorrow? I counted 77 (plus or minus one, potentially) feedbacks you have left for buyers in the last 12 months. Your sales level would not be high enough (your listing level may be, but not sales level). Message to buyers: "Griff (on buyer/seller id) is a seller who is not approved by eBay." Again, the program will not be called “approved sellers.” Second, any program of this nature will have eligibility requirements so I wouldn’t find it ironic or surprising. If I didn’t qualify and if I wanted to qualify for a program like this one, and my current annual sales volume is lower than the required amount of items necessary, I would simply list more items. So my question is: as seller advocate, will you commit to advocating either abandoning this idea, or at the very least, change the label to something less divisive and revisit the qualification levels? I don't see this ultimately being something which will be helpful or healthy to the community or the marketplace. And now is the time for someone to lobby/advocate, given it is currently being considered. I did advocate for changing the name. The final name under consideration will be released later this year (it probably won’t please everyone but it won’t be as onerous as “approved seller” which is not what the program will be called) The final decision regarding qualification criteria will be made in the near future but it will include a transaction volume qualification and it will probably be 100 transactions annually. I am 100% for a program of this nature. Why? Because it will recognize first-and-foremost, seller quality, instead of quantity (customer satisfaction v.s. sales volume). In fact, sales volume in dollars will not be a factor for membership. This new program will will be attainable by any seller, small or large, regardless of category, with a high quality of customer service, and it will provide solid, tangible benefits to those sellers (said benefits will be announced upon launch of the final program in the future).
Posted by lurch-deeann on Apr 26, 2009 2:56 PM eBay Listings On Shopping.com Hmm - sorry about another issue, but this just came up. Prior to prepping some listings, I decided to look for tortilla warmers, preferably clay, something I've been meaning to get for awhile now. Only found one on eBay, so went to google. A search there served up this page at shopping.com (which I believe ebay owns): Link Right there on the page is a link to one on eBay (but not clay). I decided to check it out, and it takes me to: Link Now - a couple of things about this page (and I'm not familiar with the "itemlistings.ebay.com" level) - and this IS an active item: 1) I did not notice until *just* now when getting the tinyurl, that there is a link to "view full description" - not good; 2) It states: Shipping Cost: See Details - yet there are no details - you have to notice the "view full description" - so shipping cost is not displayed - just "buy now" 3) Rather than displaying the details, it shows other items from other sellers on eBay; 4) Below that, are off eBay links?!? Keep in mind, this is an active listing. This can't be good for the seller of this item, and not displaying details OR shipping cost can't be good for buyers, either. In fact, I'm not sure *who* this is good for. But if this seems as wonky to you as it does to me, can you forward it along to whoever should look into it? It really seems it should just give the active listing -- and in full -- when coming in from shopping.com I also want to reiterate - I didn't see the "view full description" - I only initially found the details by clicking on their store, then searching for tortilla. Thank you for you comments regarding the special Shopping.com eBay view item pages (available to any shopper who enters eBay through a Shopping.com search). I would be happy to forward them to the Shopping.com team. I cannot promise that this will result in a change to either the current layout of this page or the format of the eBay items pages served up in Shopping.com searches. The page view you see when coming through Shopping.com is unique to this search path and only displays when someone clicks on an eBay listing in a Shopping.com search. The complete View Item page on eBay for a single eBay item on Shopping.com is accessible by clicking the “View Full Description” link.
Posted by 6141garyc on Apr 26, 2009 5:30 PM Shipping an eBay Item to Someone Other Than The Buyer of Record. I sold a bike to a registered ebay member.they had me ship it to a nonregistered member.am I responsible if they puncture an inner tube and want me to replace it? Without knowing more detail, it would be hard to provide a definitive answer but generally, shipping an item to someone other than the buyer of record does entail the assumption of risk on the part of the seller. If the transaction was completed with PayPal and the buyer subsequently complains that the item never arrived and the address to which you shipped the item is not one of the addresses in the buyer’s PayPal account, you could be held liable if the item is not delivered of the buyer files an Significantly Not As Described complaint.
Posted by zboo2 on Apr 26, 2009 10:28 PM Change That Darn Avatar! Griff, this should be a pretty easy one to get done and get right. If each month's AG thread is going to continue to be pinned to the top of SC, could you please come up with some different mug shots, something maybe to reflect time/season of the year? I confess that I am not so sure any photo of this old mug will ever be palatable to all but we coincidentally, just had new corporate head shots taken of execs and high profile types. Once they are ready, I will replace the existing mug shot with one of them (they are not that bad actually. Amazing the imperfections a generous schmearing of Vaseline can fix.) Thanks
Posted by celtictwo on Apr 27, 2009 1:58 AM PayPal Notifications Griff; For almost a month I have had a PayPal problem. My notifications from PayPal (payment & shipping), have been arriving into my email up to 6 days after the transaction. I have had conversations with PayPal about this issue with the usual troubleshooting guidance - i.e my browser cache and cookies. I do not have this problem with other sites that send email notifications. I think I can safely assume that if I'm having this problem, so are some others. So, my question is - What kind of intervention and/or support can I expect from eBay when a buyer dings my Communication or Shipping Time DSR's or leaves less than kind feedback. After all, concerning this issue, it is neither the seller's fault nor the buyer's fault. Blame rests squarely upon eBay! Have your buyers complained that the notifications are delayed on their end? If so, let me know. Send me an email via griff@ebay.com using your regular email, not My Messages. I will have someone from PayPal take a closer look.
Posted by celtictwo on Apr 27, 2009 2:33 AM A Search Question Griff, This isn't a question, just something I thought might interest you. My wife was looking for a DVD set of The Tudors, season one. She did her search and only one result showed up. The price on the DVD set was quite high and certainly not a bargain, but it was apparently the only one available and apparently scarce. Not believing that only one set showed up, together we re-checked her search criteria (i.e. keyword spelling, format, etc). Everything looked OK, so we did the BIN on the item. After the purchase was completed and paid for, we got the usual box of "You also might be interested in these items"! There were further sets of these DVDs available from other sellers (a total of 34)! Over half of these were less expensive than the one we just purchased. Needless to say, as buyers, we weren't very pleased. Without screen shots, there is no way I can duplicate what you saw. I searched on “the tudors” in DVDs and found the following: http://tinyurl.com/cj9eod at the time of the search, there are 88 items. Are you absolutely certain you searched on the keywords “the tudors”?
Posted by buriedbybooks on Apr 27, 2009 6:51 AM Article About Resolutions Griff, I have an article I'd like a response to. It's from Ina (no groaning, please) In particular is this quote: "When going through the dispute process, both buyers said they explained the situation to an eBay representative by phone and were immediately refunded, and the sellers suspended. " The bolded part is particularly worrisome to me. Immediate refunds without contacting the seller AND immediate suspension of the seller. This directly contradicts what we've been told will happen with this new dispute process. None of the early reports of this dispute process have shown ANY delay between the phone call and the refund. Meaning that the buyer kept the item (if shipped), the seller was not allowed to tell his or her side of the situation, and in some cases the sellers were suspended! I'm hoping you can reassure us that sellers will not be immediately suspended based on disputes where they are not contacted at all. Because that sure appears to be what happened here. Although I certainly cannot comment on a situation relayed third-hand lacking critical details like user ids, transaction numbers, etc., I can assure you that no seller would be immediately suspended as a consequence of one dispute in the upcoming eBay Resolution program without previous or mitigating circumstances such as a chronic history of high customer dissatisfaction reports/disputes or a seriously egregious violation of eBay policy. And I should mention one other piece of the Resolutions program that will be significantly different than the current process: Resolution reps will able to take into account a seller's past history and good standing with eBay when deciding a case. Finally, all details of the program, currently under testing and not finalized, will be completely disclosed upon launch in mid year. I would strongly recommend that all sellers look first to eBay for accurate information and details regarding this and any eBay program, feature, policy or change.
Posted by ticeland on Apr 27, 2009 9:01 AM Resolutions Staff Training Hi Griff, First, thank you for trying to help here. This is a serious question, I am not being flippant here. For years I answered questions on the AC. Time and again, we saw where live help gave marginal, irrelevant and out and out wrong answers. Email help is also famous for giving amazingly irrelevant answers. The idea that there aren't bots makes that even more amazing. If ebay employees are going to be deciding a sellers fate when it comes to their disputes, is somebody going to give them actual intense training on policy? More training than is normally given. Or are they going to be given scripts, with black and white, no deviation flow charts and told to get to work? I am very concerned about this change. and across two IDs I can count on one hand the number of disputes I have had since 1999. Why am i concerned? because as soon as people figure out that if the post office delays their package they can get it for free, I anticipate more disputes. So I guess my question is how much training are these cs reps going to be provided and will we have an appeals process? Resolutions will be staffed with fully-trained, highly qualified and monitored reps.
Posted by bikerhal on Apr 27, 2009 9:53 AM Questions/Confusion about eBay Policy You sometimes see on Discussion Boards page after page of discussion about a certain policy with knowledgeable people disagreeing, one of the reasons being is that the eBay policy is ambiguous or conflicting. Yet, eBay seems to ignore these issues and keeps them ambiguous. Here are some examples – will you please provide some guidance? Sure. To be clear, I asked Brian Burke to provide a response to questions 1 and 2. The others I will answer myself. 1) Seller states payment must be made in 2 days or item will be relisted. Is this allowed? (From Brian Burke) Yes. Sellers can set any terms they want regarding payment due dates and relisting. The seller can relist the item immediately after the item ends if they choose. When discussing this issue, sellers tend to misinterpret the UPI policy that requires the seller to wait 7 days to file a UPI claim and another 7 days to close the UPI claim. They view the 7 days as a restriction - it is not. These UPI timelines (about to be shortened by the way) are to encourage the seller to communicate with the buyer. They don’t preclude the seller from relisting their item before the 7 day period. Note: Having the policy doesn’t protect the seller from receiving negative or neutral feedabc. So if a seller wishes to have a policy like this they should be crystal clear in the item description so that all buyers understand if they are late on the payment, the seller will relist and file unpaid item against the buyer. 2) Someone with zero feedback snipes auction. Seller’s TOS has requirement that feedback must be at least 10. Seller refuses to complete transaction. Is this allowed? (From Brian Burke) Yes it is allowed, but it is probably the wrong attitude from the seller unless there is other information about the buyer, such as the buyer states they are underage, the buyer doesn’t respond to email/phone, their contact information isn’t accurate, etc. Not all zero feedback buyers present transaction problems. Keep in mind that all buyers start with zero feedback. Even though the seller can refuse to sell to the buyer in this situation, the buyer can also leave the seller FB - the seller receives no protection from eBay regarding their terms. They must enforce them via the courts if they wish. If the buyer paid and the seller doesn’t refund the buyer (or ship the item) it is seller fraud, regardless of what the terms state. The User Agreement specifies that sellers must “…deliver the item to the buyer who purchased the item, unless the buyer fails to meet the posted terms…” So a seller with terms where they refuse to sell to a 0 FB buyer would enable them to avoid such a sale, but it is a bad buying experience and a seller who receives a N/N, low DSR or INR may have be limited from becoming a PowerSeller (min 4.5) or receiving other benefits. 3) Seller pays someone to ship books. Average handling cost per shipment is $2 making the total S&H cost more than the $4 maximum even for a small paperback. Is this permitted? Or seller charges for his own time to ship that increases the cost to over $4. Is this permitted? No. If the seller is using a flat rate shipping option (standard flat rate), the item’s shipping cost must be in line with the shipping limits for that category. 4) eBay does not explicitly state the reason for restricting a seller or cancelling a listing. Why? Trust and Safety informs a seller whose listing is ended or whose selling is restricted exactly why, or at least they should. If you find that this is not the case, feel free to email the details to me. However, for privacy, we don’t reveal the details of any account action to anyone but the person against whom the action was taken. 5) eBay does not allow “like new” in a title but using that exact term as a Condition option in the Sell Your Item form. Why? Title Search and Keywod realities. When searching using the keyword, "new" items that have the phrase, “like new” in the title (which by definition, means "not new") will also show up. There is no way to prevent this. So, to prevent not new items from showing up a keyword search of "new," we prohibit the use of the keyword phrase "like new." However, as a separate data piece like an item specific or tag or condition term, which is not a part of the item title, the phrase "like new" is allowed because an item marked as “like new” in this manner will not be returned in a title search of “new.”
There are two questions posted by fromus2u on Apr 26, 2009 9:29 AM and on Apr 26, 2009 9:18 AM for which I still do not have a verified responses. When I do receive the information necessary for crafting responses, I will post it here. The thread is now open for the weekend. Regards, Griff Jim Griffith _____________ eBay Inc


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Apr 28, 2009 10:37 AM
Posted by buckarooandco on Apr 19, 2009 6:10 PM Auto Invoicing Griff, can you please get ebay to QUIT automatically sending out our invoices for us? I'm a small hands on seller, and I like to be able to personalize sending out my invoices. At least let us opt out of the auto invoicing!!! I am NOT happy with this! eBay doesn't send out invoices automatically for sellers. However, eBay End of Auction/Listing notices contain a Pay Now link or button. This has been the default ever since the eBay and PayPal End of Listing notices were combined last year. You do have options (Depending on what selling product you are using, you can edit the outgoing message, make it manual or shut it off completely) If you are using the standard My eBay Selling pages (not subscribed to Selling Manager Pro), you can turn off the End of Auction notices (and by connection, the Pay Now button) by the following steps. Go to: My eBay > (click the) Account tab > (select) Site Preferences Click the Show link to the right of "Payment from buyers." Click the "Edit" link Uncheck the box for Use Checkout. Scroll down and click "Submit." If you are using either of the Selling Manager applications (Basic or Pro) you can create email templates that you can send out manually. (The link to creating and editing these templates is not easy to find. If you go to your Sold Items page in Selling Manager (P or B), check a Sold Item box and click the Email button, it will take you to a page where you can edit existing templates. On that page, there is a link for "Manage Templates." I advise bookmarking it. Low volume sellers tend to use the manual option (I do as well). If you use Selling Manager Pro, you can create your own automated end of listing notices (including an invoice). Go to My eBay > (click) Selling Manager Pro > (select) Automation Preferences and uncheck or check the appropriate options under "Automated Email for Buyers". You can also edit your automatic Buyer Notification by clicking the link for "Edit winning buyer notification template." There is also a link there for "customize the End of Auction" email that eBay automatically sends out by default. Check it out. It is a "legacy" link that hasn't been updated in a while (as you will see if you check the default text inserted into the message). That needs serious updating!
Posted by lurch-deeann on Apr 19, 2009 6:23 PM eBay Resolutions Questions Re: moving the INR process to eBay - it was explained in the Announcements forum that when an INR claim is submitting, eBay will add the seller's handling time to the estimated delivery time and add three days to the estimated delivery time. It was also explained that the Seller Protection Policy will be ported to eBay. I'm wondering why the seller's handling time will even be a component of this when the seller is covered under SPP - one of the requirements for SPP is that the seller ship within 7 days. So even if it is shipped within the 7 days (but outside of the stated handling time), SPP should still protect the seller financially, correct? This seems like a large contradiction, and one that it is hard to believe was not noticed when developing this policy. Or is SPP changing? This was inexplicably never answered on the Announcements board. If it (SPP) is changing, then what if I have a 3 day handling time, something comes up, and I don't ship until day 4. Let's say Media Mail - which CAN take 3 weeks (not uncommon) or even longer at times. If the handling time trumps SPP and a refund is issued by eBay against my account, what happens when the item does show up? Does eBay credit me the money? I mean, it *shouldn't* be an issue, because it *should* be covered under SPP (shipped within 7 days), but if SPP is changing, what happens? Still on this issue - everyone there does realize that delivery confirmation is *not* tracking, correct? For instance, of the last 4 shipments that have gone out, only 1 has had any kind of enroute scan. Just one. Relying on this, particularly tied to the unreasonable shipping time estimates to determine if a refund should be made is less than reliable, don't you think? (not rhetorical there) I do have to agree with others, too - for the most part, these announcements really had nothing great in them for sellers as you were so heavily hinting there would be. The only thing would be if eBay does in fact, cover some refunds. But wait - in the Announcements forum (which ran FAR too short, btw), eBay reps kept using these phrases, "we expect...," "we might...," "we may..." Nothing concrete there. And no actual guidance as to what reality may lay ahead when exploring details of the plan. And not answering all questions (like mine above) to clarify how this will work. So yeah - I still don't know. eBay must, and policies shouldn't really contain information that is not shared with the users who are bound by those policies. In the new eBay Resolutions process, Sellers Handling time + estimated delivery time (based on class of service used) + 3 "buffer" days = the time a buyer will have to wait before filing an INR report. It has nothing to do with Seller Protection itself (which is not going away). By providing this reasonable "window" of time, we can prevent buyers from filing hasty reports. And yes, Delivery Confirmation is not "tracking" per se. But, since it is all USPS offers at the moment, we use it to verify that an item was shipped and, though DC won't show a parcel's progress, it will provide verification that a package has been delivered. And in a Resolutions scenario where a buyer is claiming an Item was not Received, proof of delivery is crucial. I regret that you (and some other regulars here) found the news contained in our Seller Spring 2009 Update disappointing. I believe that over time, the benefits will become more evident to all sellers: big and small. I also regret if my past hinting raised expectations unreasonably (looking back, I can definitely say I never promised anything specific). No matter, lesson learned. My promise to you: there will be absolutely no hinting on my part at all from here on about any upcoming changes (and if asked to comment about possible upcoming changes, I won't confirm, deny or discuss). This should eliminate any subsequent disappointment.
Posted by mygift2u on Apr 19, 2009 8:27 PM Unusual eMail and Selling Manager Issue Hi Griff Another follow up to my problem which has still not been fixed: (I will recap that issue plus ask a new ----- About 1 month ago, the emails I send through Selling Manager are wiping out MY logo and placing the ebay logo on the emails. The emails also say "eBay sent this message to (buyer's name)" I have tried everything possible to get this problem fixed. But all i get is the usual form emails bla bla we are working on your issue and do not have any idea when it will be fixed and we cannot give you an update when it is fixed... Am I the only one who cannot get my logo to come through? When I preview my emails before sending them, they DO show my logo but on the copy I get (that goes to my buyer), my logo is not there.... just the eBay logo. It looks like I am not communicating with my customers. I don't know if this is related to the problem or not but I would also like to know about the preferences setting "Payment from Buyers". I currently have it set to "use Checkout". That may not be related to my problem but what is the difference between "allowing customers to use Checkout" or "Not allowing them to use Checkout". From what I have been told, this is not a shared issue (no other reports of it). I will email you later today and work directly with you to determine the cause on our end.
Posted by stolasjc on Apr 19, 2009 11:00 PM Shipping Cost DSR As far as the shipping and handling DSR goes I understand not giving a automatic 5 for free shipping, but as shipping and handling charges obviously don't apply in a free shipping tranaction. Why not just have this one blanked out, a N/A which doesn't hurt anyone Right? That's what I thought as well. In fact, we already do this for Half.com transactions (we don't provide the option for rating shipping cost.). I will be frank: no one has yet to provide me with a reason why this would not be a workable solution. I will press on. One idea that is currently afloat here is to change the default for this DSR to all stars filled in. It would still be editable by the buyer (for cases where shipping actually wasn't "free" for example, free for domestic but not international shipping), but the buyer would "see" all five stars filled in first.
Posted by vedave on Apr 20, 2009 2:19 AM Shipping Cost DSR Again... Whoa. Griff mentioned some time back in a response to me that they might consider just dumping the dsr for shipping cost if it's free. That's even more illogical than not giving an auto 5. Griff, I'd hope that if you are not for an auto 5, at least you won't push ignoring the dsr. How does your reticence to change the ship cost to a 5 for free shipping coexist with the illogical idea to just dump the dsr? Sorry to keep coming back to this, but I wish you'd explain better than you have in the past what is wrong with giving a 5 for free shipping? And the old argument that ebay just will never change any buyer's dsr spec doesn't work when you are considering just ignoring the dsr in certain cases. I promise I won't come back to this on THIS thread. It always gives me a headache anyway. I am not sure why not providing the option for rating a transaction's shipping cost when the cost was "free" is "illogical." it would certainly clear up what is a definite issue for many sellers who offer free shipping. As I said above, we already have something like this for Half.com transactions and it seems to be working. One thing I can guarantee that eBay won't do (and advocating for it would be futile. I am being realistic here.): have eBay "rate" a seller. We would either change the default (from "empty" to "filled-in") or simply not provide the option but we could never actually submit a hard rating on behalf of a buyer.
Posted by vedave on Apr 20, 2009 2:26 AM "Auto" Invoicing Confusion This thing about ebay sending invoices is bugging heck out of me. Seems that ebay is trying to act as the vendor, and they are absolutely not the vendor. Let ebay stock the inventory, take the losses, and pay the taxes- then they can play vendor. Until then, bug off. Griff, can you tell us what in the world is wrong with letting us opt out of the auto invoice? Ebay is a venue, I am the vendor. I think the ebay invoice may be causing some dsr problems. The user, when he gets proper communication from me may, with the ebay invoice, think it's too much communication. Please just make them optional. Or tell us WHY NOT? There seems to be some confusion here. We do not send out automatic invoices. See my post response above to buckarooandco titled "Auto Invoicing."
Posted by etown99 on Apr 20, 2009 7:07 AM John Donahoe Sells on eBay One more question... Does the CEO, John Donahoe, sell on Ebay? If so, how often? He does occasionally sell on eBay. He also regularly visits eBay sellers (big AND small) at their home or work locations for a half a day to observe first hand.
Posted by tr8rjohn on Apr 20, 2009 8:10 AM Hi Griff, An eBay Motors question about search. I did a simple search: Subaru Brat Link got 142 matches, plus the "related searches" links, as seen in the screen shot below. I am trying to understand this. How is "pioneer radio, kenwood radio, and jeep wagoneer" related to Subaru Brat? Other than they are in the motors category? I have no idea. I have inquired but no response as of yet. When I hear back, I will post an answer (I suspect this is something that needs "refining."
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Apr 27, 2009 10:45 AM
Thanks everyone for your replies. We are now in closed mode (locked) until the end of the week.I will finish up and post the previous session's unanswered questions today and will post responses to the most previous posts towards the end of this week. Someone asked me in an email last week why it takes so long to respond to 50 or so questions. They asked, "Griff, what is so hard with answering 50 questions? Why does it take you all week or longer?" with more that I won't quote here except to say the gist of it was that I should get off my fat duff and get to work instead of luxuriating in my cushy job. I thought, what a wonderful opportunity this email provides for me to shed a little light not only how the process of compiling responses for this thread works but also how this one self-assigned task fits in with the rest of my roster regular duties. First, Ask Griff. The actual writing of responses does not take that much time (I am a fast typist). It's the prep that does. After I lock a thread (usually on Monday morning), I go through each new post individually, looking specifically for those that will require research, usually questions where I do not have a complete answer (for example, the previous posts about appealing SNAD claims. I knew the process from a high level. I wanted to understand it completely, top to bottom, before posting a response). I email each of these particular posts to the appropriate persons or teams for either their assistance in fact gathering or, if I have compiled a draft response, for fact checking for accuracy. This often involves quite a lot of email back and forth, sometimes taking several days to complete. For example, the situation last month with the changin of the wording on End of Listing email notices (aka, the automatic invoice issue). It took quite a lot of sleuthing on the part of many here to determine exactly what had changed, why, and what it would take to reverse the change to solve the issue. Although the issue itself was definitely a major inconvenience for sellers, it was your posts and emails on the issue that not only drove a roll back on the text change, it drove a refinement of the existing process regarding changing of messaging on eBay pages and in eBay emails to prevent a repeat of this situation. This is why it takes a work week to post a list of responses. Besides Ask Griff.... I receive about 500 emails per week from sellers and buyers all of which I either respond to directly as appropriate or forward (and track for follow-up) to either Trust and Safety (for T&S) issues) or to the appropriate person or team (for technical and policy issues). The majority of seller emails I receive in a week ask for help with a negative feedback situation, usually around a UPI. I am also directly involved in several ongoing seller-facing projects which require several hours per week in meetings (these are the very meetings where I advocate for the needs, concerns of small sellers). This in addition to the regular staff meetings which are a staple of every big company (and for which I maintain a respectful but definite level of disdain). I also create a bi monthly compilation of the most commonly posted issues and send this to the entire exec staff (and interested employees). I conduct several press interviews a week (each lasting at least an hour). I manage and prepare for each month's Town Hall, host a monthly series of training sessions for new Pinks, and finally, host and manage eBay Radio's twice-a-week broadcast, which require spending several per week in prep and broadcast time. Finally, someone also asked whether or not I actually enjoy this project (the SC Ask Griff thread). Yes, I do enjoy it, in fact, this ongoing thread helps keep me focused on your issues and concerns and although I admit that results are not always quick to site and I cannot deliver everything that you request of me or eBay, I do believe this thread is making a difference in how current policy and procedure is changed or created. If I thought otherwise, I would, out of respect for you, discontinue this ongoing thread. Regards, Griff Jim Griffith ______________ eBay Inc


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Apr 24, 2009 06:28 PM
Batch two. There a few posts left from last weekend. I will post responses tomorrow or Monday for those. I will also reopen the thread in a few minutes for new posts. Please keep in mind. Posts that duplicate recently asked questions will most likely not be included in a response thread. Thanks, Griff
Posted by jerryfr40 on Apr 18, 2009 10:47 AM Picture Manager Retirement Questions I am more than a little concerned about the upcoming cancelation of the Picture Manager. Somehow today is the first I have heard about it. I have searched for quite some time and can not find any real information on it. 1.) I have a basic store where I list used auto parts on eBay Motors. 2.) I currently use Picture Manager for 100% of my listings, I do not want to deal with having to add code in the listings for 12 photos in over 350 listings. It is just easier to hit the manager option and upload the photos straight to eBay. 3. I have over 1500 photos actively listed and if I am about to start being charged $.15 per photo each month then I am about to be forced to close my store. That is $225 just in picture fees. I did see were the photo pack will be free to Premium stores so maybe I could go that route but I really do not know what the fee structure is for basic stores when they are transferred into the new system. Currently the extra pictures are free to Picture Manager subscribers, is that now going to change? Yes. Extra pictures for items not listed in the group of categories for which eBay hosted pictures are free (Collectibles, Antiques, Art & Pottery, Art; see the http://www2.ebay.com/aw/core/200902.shtml#2009-02-12134601> February 12th 2009 Announcement regarding free photos for these categories.) will be charged the regular picture rate, at least for now. The cost of a Premium Store is $49.95 over the Basic Store cost of $15.95. Picture Manager 50MB subscription was $9.95. So the incremental cost to move to Premium would be at least $24.05 a month over what you are paying now for a Basic Store and Picture Manager. (If you are subscribing to more than 50MB, the savings would be greater) With roughly 1150 extra photos for listings that appear to be all 30 day Good Until Cancelled Fixed Price listings in a Basic Store, you would be paying at least $172.50 (1150 X .15) a month for using eBay Picture Services with a Basic Store. Using this calculation, and if you wanted to keep all your photos using eBay Picture Services and you upgraded to a Premium Store (where all photos are free), you’d be saving a substantial amount of money every month (about $150). However, this is an incremental savings based on using only eBay for your photos (Picture Manager before and eBay Picture Services after). You could possibly save even more money by using a third party hosting option but, as you mentioned, there is extra work involved. Conversion of existing listings to a self hosting option involves manual insertion of URLs for self hosted images. TurboLister might help with a conversion from eBay to self-host, since it simulates having 12 picture slots for self hosted photos instead of just the one in the Sell Your Item form. And TurboLister automatically embeds photos 2-12 (self hosted) into the your Description. So my questions is, can anyone direct me to a place where eBay is explaining just how this change is going to be handled and how it will effect existing store owners, ex.. what will it cost for a store owner with 1500 photos used in 350 listings (1150 extra photos) if they remain in the basic store and selling parts on eBay Motors? I would really appreciate any direction you could offer. Thanks! There is a Picture Manager FAQ page (available to all PM subscribers) that explains the “why,” “how,” and “when.” Perhaps additional information that helps sellers calculate the price differentials for all options would be helpful. I will ask if this is possible.
Posted by ozzie3 on Apr 18, 2009 12:45 PM Buyer Obligations and Dining Out Griff, Some people think that when Paypal returns a payment to the buyer that the buyer no longer has any obligation to the seller. Is that a truism, or a fallacy? Once the buyer has sent the item back (the actual item) and the seller or PayPal sends a refund, the buyer has no further obligations to the seller. If you go into a restaurant and eat dinner, go to pay with a credit card, and the card is refused by the issuer, do you think that the meal does not have to be paid for? Of course. I fail however to see the connection. The buyer has sent back the item (a requirement for receiving a refund through PayPal or from the seller) and the seller has returned the money. Using a restaurant transaction doesn’t quite make sense here since a meal, once consumed, is not returnable. If you use a PayPal debit card to pay, and the card is rejected for insufficient funds, do you still have to pay for what you have received? You mean for the meal? I would say yes. Unless you bolt the restaurant but even then, you are still liable for payment for the meal and I suppose could face arrest and prosecution. How could rejection by a payment service void a contract between a buyer and a seller? I confess; I fail to see your point or how the above analogy has anything to do with an eBay transaction paid for with PayPal where the item is subsequently returned to the seller and the buyer subsequently receives a refund for their payment.
Posted by ozzie3 on Apr 18, 2009 12:59 PM Feedback I think that this statement on eBay feedback page is wholly inaccurate! "Leave more Feedback – share your trading experiences with fellow eBayers" You are not allowed to share your experience trading with buyers. You are only allowed to share the fact of the trading , and not the experience. Means little to you , but much to sellers. Why is it worded that way when ebay knows it is not permitted in some instances? I see your point of course, since sellers can no longer leave negative feedback for buyers. Not sure the wording can be removed or would benefit from editing but I’ll bring it up at our next Seller Experience meeting.
Posted by minervabird on Apr 18, 2009 2:21 PM Fraudulent SNAD Claims What specifically does eBay/PayPal plan to do about our new breed of buyes that are filing false SNAD claims via PayPal. There are new users every day complaining about this issue ranging from the buyer's complaint does not constitute SNAD according to PayPal's user agreement to getting a "return" that is indeed not the item sent. It seems that PayPal has removed the clause that the buyer must return the item in the condition recieved. Send back a rock in a box, PayPal refunds and all is good....unless you are the seller. As I have outlined in recent responses, there is an appeals process for situations where a buyer sends back an item that is not the same one the seller sent to them. Please try to see this from a practical perspective: No one can prevent a buyer from sending back a different item. Of course we don’t want this to happen. It is odious in the extreme. But if it does happen the only way we can provide any redress for the seller who is victimized in this fashion is to provide an appeals process (as outlined in my recent responses). If you are the seller, PayPal says in essence "so sorry to be you" ...get a police report. It is not unitl a seller that has been duped files with every agency in the Unitied States that they get offered a courtesy refund. Not every agency. For items valued at $199 or less, PayPal will provide an affidavit for the seller to fill out and may also require that the seller forward to PayPal the item the buyer sent to them. For items valued at more than $199, we need a copy of a police report. Consider: a buyer who sends back something other than what the seller sent them originally could be guilty of a crime. As the victim of this crime, it is up to the seller and no one else to file a police report. Once PayPal has a copy of this police report, they can continue with the appeals process (and they may also require additional documentation regarding the item and the transaction). Again, what does eBay plan to do about this issue? Currently there is an appeals process through PayPal. This is the solution for the near term. As we announced last week, all resolution and dispute processes will be moving completely to the eBay side. There will always be an appeals or complaint process for situations where a buyer defrauds a seller. In the past we could leave a big red donut neg for the crook buyer...now they are all good with eBay....and continue to play the get the item for free on eBay scam. Not true. When it is determined that a buyer has defrauded a seller in this fashion, we take action against the buyer (account suspension and if necessary, we assist the seller and law enforcement in pursuit and prosecution of the buyer.) As for negatives for buyers, it may have been salve for the seller but it certainly didn’t deter a crooked buyer nor did it help the seller get his money or the actual item back. Of course, if this has happened to you, please feel free to email the details to me. I am always happy to assist in these cases.
Posted by minervabird on Apr 18, 2009 3:09 PM False SNAD Claims I would like to add as well that I have had a merchant account for over twenty years.....Losses due to the rhertoric of doing business on the net, is nothing like losses due to doing business with PayPal. Tell me, what eBay/PayPal is going to do when I accept returns and get the proverbial phone book instead. I provided the steps for appealing a false SNAD claim above. If you should find yourself in a false SNAD claim, feel free to email me if you need assistance in appealing it. I am always happy to help. Also, please feel free to send me the details of any and all transactions where you have been either defrauded by a buyer or have had SNAD or INR cases ruled against you (don’t post them here please). I would be happy to assist in resolution.
Posted by lindaspostcardsandmo.. on Apr 18, 2009 3:17 PM Small and Large Flat Rate Priorty Boxes I also would like to know if PP really isn't planning to add the two new box sizes to the PP shipping? Yes. PayPal is working to bring these two options to the PayPal label feature. However, they won’t be available in the near term. They will be available in the new eBay postage feature which will launch in mid June.
Posted by ozzie3 on Apr 18, 2009 5:40 PM A Suggestion I have the solution so I will ask the question! As ebay assures everyone that buying and selling on eBay is safe, why don't they simple charge each seller a fee of $1 to cover possible losses. You, Griff, say that fraud is minimal, and should be considered a cost of doing business! No I did not say that. I have said the following: The actual fact is that real fraud on the site has decreased, dramatically. (Which it has) I have also stated on many occasions a business reality: businesses routinely consider the losses from returns and yes, from theft, as a cost of doing business and take those costs as write-offs at the end of their fiscal year. That doesn't mean that businesses don't or shouldn't take all steps necessary to manage the risk of said losses (not doing so doesn't make sense). Your statement gives the perception that I am telling sellers that they should just suck up those costs. And that, is patenly untrue. Feel free to quote me on anything I say but please do not misquote me or attribute to me statements which I did not make. This is the way that misinformation is spread and does not contribute to constructive discussion. Thank for your cooperation.
Posted by bscheffl2 on Apr 18, 2009 7:32 PM UPI and Feedback I understand that feedback as a whole can be one thing to review when considering a seller's worthiness. I look for negatives myself, honestly... they stick out pretty well. Ebay made them red.... so people will notice them and consider them when trying to determine whether they want to deal with a seller. Again, is it fair to a usually decent seller, to have even one red negative for all to see, from a person who never paid for the item? This helps future buyers how? I agree. No feedback for UPI transactions. Yes... I understand aggregate piece to the feedback and DSRs system, I really do. If ebay wanted to feedback to be considered as a aggregate, it would not make the negative be so obvious. Why not make them green and blend in? They clearly want each and every negative to be considered and they make it very easy for all to see. If a seller earns one... fine. No problem.. But when it could be because of retaliation for a UPI??? I am for no feedback for UPI.. I could not support masking negative feedback with the same color icon as positive. Also, You seem to minimize the impact any negative feedback has to a seller. Again, smoothing it over with words like aggregates.... in totality... etc. I want to say really, shame on you for this perspective. Its not your reputation, not your sales, not you fees, and not your pride. Just read the boards and you can see the pain and frustration ONE red feedback causes. A feedback "Earned" by a scammer buyer or a non-paying one... is like salt in a wound. Please stop minimizing how this nonsensical policy is impacting sellers... even if its only one red negative at a time. I am for no feedback left for UPI transactions. I apologize if I hadn’t made that clear previously. And yes of course, a negative feedback comment stings. No doubt about it. I don’t invalidate any seller’s feelings about a negative feedback. My point in past response about negative feedback is that one or two negative feedbacks have no statistical effect on a seller’s sales. Buyers are much more reasonable and much more forgiving than many sellers believe them to be. The majority understand that the occasional negative feedback is a reality on eBay and take it into account when assessing a seller. Can a seller respond to a neg under these circumstances as "disregard: never paid for item, so never shipped" or, "here is a non-paying buyer rating a transaction" "Auction ended 3/1; still six weeks later and no payment." Yes, a seller can reply to a comment left for them with a comment like "disregard: never paid for item, so never shipped" or "here is a non-paying buyer rating a transaction" or "Auction ended 3/1; still six weeks later and no payment."
Posted by zboo2 on Apr 18, 2009 8:02 PM Slow Motors Searches Griff, you must be aware the "new" motors was released last Monday, your smiley face is on the 1st page of the tutorial. Actually, no I wasn’t aware of that. Thanks for letting me know (I think…) Let me go check…. Yikes… there I am. I think there is quite enough of “me” on eBay right now. The overwhelming complaint is the slowness of searches, as seen on the motors thread with 508 responces at this moment. The following is from a thread I started on the motors discussion board after a very frustrating, but commonly slow search: I did a saved search I have for GTO under vintage parts. The following are the actual times each step took to do the stated: 1. 60 seconds for a blank white page to show up after clicking on page 3, from page 2. 2. 30 more seconds before anything shows on the white page. 3. 40 more seconds before some items show up, scroll 2 items, page freezes. 4. 82 more seconds before 2 more items can be scrolled, freezes again. 5. 87 more seconds and could scroll the remainder of the 50 item page. Nearly 5 minutes for one page to load completely and this with "hi speed". Dial up was NEVER this slow. This test was a 10PM PST, hardly a peak usage time. No one will put up with this slowness. I have asked many people who frequent the motors site if they are having the same problems or similiar. Every one and I mean every single said yes and every single one said the slowness was ONLY on ebay. Buyers simply will not put up with this amount of waiting and will move on, costing both the seller and ebay money. Let's not kid each other, the loading slowness is prevelent with all searches, not just motors. I would like to know if this will be remedied on ebay's end and when? Please don't tell me/us to reboot, clean the cache, etc. That is not the problem and I'm sure as a seller advocate you know this to be true. Are there also any legitimate things that can be done on the user end that are "known" helps? What might they be? First, I take your word for it that the searches are slow. I have forwarded the post to the Motors team for their attention. (I say take your word because at home, on DSL, I tried to duplicate your experience - in the morning, and late evening Pacific - and the searches took five seconds to load, maximum, on each page. ) If you could, email the following information to me: Operating system, browser model and version, I will forward that along to Motors as well (they will need it). And one other question: Are you attempting the search from two separate browsers and if so, what are the makes and versions?
Posted by prairie-view-antique.. on Apr 18, 2009 10:33 PM UPI and Negative Feedback This question is regarding negative feedback. This evening I received negative feedback from an NPB. This buyer made an offer that I accepted. Then less than 24 hours later he contacted me through the invoice and stated that he no longer wanted the item, his wife was mad. I filed for my fees 7 days after the end of the auction. A couple of days later after filing for my fees, was contacted by the buyer, now he says that he didn't pay because he fell off a ladder and broke his back. Evidently, he forgot the first excuse he gave me. Since he told me directly, in an email and by phone that he did not want the item, I resold it. He contacted me and was angry that I had filed for my fees, I explained that since he didn't pay and wrote to me that he didn't want the item, I sold it to someone else. So, because he was angry that he got an Unpaid Item Strike, he left me negative feedback. My question is: How is this fair to me? I followed all the rules and yet my feedback rating has dropped and this Non Paying Bidder has been allowed to leave me negative feedback. Ebay has protected its' buyer by allowing him to leave "retaliatory" feedback, but what are they doing to protect me, the seller? Please send the details to me in an email and I will work on your behalf to remedy this situation. Send them to griff@ebay.com using your regular email, not My Messages.
Posted by here_we_have on Apr 19, 2009 4:30 AM Feedback Removal Case? Is this grounds for feedback removal? FB left SENT 1 LOT INSTEAD OF 2 LOTS WE PAID FOR THEN CALLS ME AND 9 YEAR OLD SON NAMES Not once in my correspondence with this buyer did I ever call him or his son names, according to the buyer, I'm deplorable and despicable. Here are all three contacts made with this buyer. 03/23 Good afternoon. Got your cards in mail today. DC # 030833900001xxxxxxxx They should be there in a couple of days. Hope you enjoy. Thanks again for your purchase and Hope you have a nice day. Leo/here_we_have DC shows delivery 03/25 Recieved 1st complaint 03/26 from buyer, it was almost a nastygram. My response 03/27 Good morning Xxxx, Wow, you're the 2nd power seller in 6 months to state something like this happened. Maybe you have mixed my sale up with someone else's, like they did. Gee, I hope so anyway. Both lots were shipped complete at the same time. The package was a WHITE USPS document envelope, with the TWO lots individually enveloped and placed in a cardboard sleeve. I don't have anymore to send you. I shipped exactly what you paid for. Your package was the ONLY one shipped that day. So I'm sure they were inside when posted. The 2 lot package weighed 2.9 ounces. (My normal 1 lot package weighs 1.6 ounces.) Sorry there is really nothing further I can do. Hope you and your son ;-} can complete the set. Your welcome, Leo/here_we_have Got a real NASTYGRAM from buyers outside ebay email account on 03/28 My response 03/29 Good evening Xxxx, We seem to be at an deadlock here. You say you only received one of the two lots. I say I shipped both lots to you. The only thing left is for you to file a dispute on the lot you say you didn't get. Present what evidence you have and I'll present the evidence I have to support my side. Let ebay/paypal decide. It is of no further use to communicate with you without moderation. Your toolhaus FB history is deplorable OVER 100 non-positive transactions, had I seen this before I accepted your offer, the transaction would have never occurred. File the dispute, leave negative feedback, I wouldn't expect anything less. Have a NICE day!!! buyer sent response to this one then did the negs. ********************* Wanna see his communications to me? ********************* Would this qualify for removal? No it wouldn’t qualify. Here is the policy for Feedback Withdrawal and Removal , which contains the list of criteria used for removal consideration. Here is the policy for Feedback Abuse (also contains criteria for removal)
Posted by enchantedhen on Apr 19, 2009 6:45 AM eBay Plans and the Fate of the Cuban Embargo Hi Griff, If the embargo is lifted, are there any plans for eBay to open up the Cuba market for buying and selling? Not at this time. And (on the same note), what is the status on the request to be able to selectively block individual countries from purchasing our items? No release date yet but it is in the works.
Posted by honeville1 on Apr 19, 2009 7:54 AM What is eBay? Griff... I spent the day yesterday at an auction where we were auctioning off all my parents stuff after my fathers recent death. Having moved out of town years ago I spent the day is causual conversations and responding to the question of "so what have you been up to". As I tell people I sell full time on the internet, I'm am ebay powerseller, sell on amazon and on my own website" I got the same responses... "Ebay?... Well why did they...." Each time as I dug into their complaint and asked questions I discovered that without exception each of these people were collecter's of one thing or the other, were formally highly active buyers, with little or no selling on ebay. Their main complaints surrounded the finding experience and the flood of mostly NEW items (most of them used the phrase "cheap chinese crap") on the site. Last night on the long drive home I had a little time to think about the days events and all the conversations I had and it dawned on me that none of these folks raised "bad sellers" or a "bad buying experience" as their beefs but 100% them raised "ebay's changes" as their root of why they no longer use ebay. I should also note that not one single person reposnded favorably to the word "ebay" and most of them did begin to go on and on about amazon when I inserted that I have over 10,000 used media items listed there. Now, I realize that by no means can this be diagnosed as a scientific study but it just seems to me that ebay is having some negative consumer "brand" related issues that need some serious attention. Your story reminded me of a few of my own from about 11 years ago. I used to be an antique dealer full time back before I started with eBay (for about 25 years). In 1998, I was working for eBay, and one weekend I took a trip to an antique show I used to do prior to changing careers. I brought along some some eBay bumper stickers to hand out. Now, keep in mind, at the time, I still knew most of the dealers who attended this show and they knew me. I went around from booth to booth, saying “hello” to old friends, making a few purchases, and waiting till anyone asked what I was up to to mention that I was totally involved with eBay. Then the invective would start. This is 1998. At first it shocked me (“I hate that eBay!” “Worst damn thing to ever happen to the business!” “I hope it dies!” and worse. Some if it got personal.) At first, I was sad, then I stopped talking about it, paid and picked up my few purchases, and left, chastened (with a full stack of bumper stickers) Again, this was 1998. Fast forward to 2005. On a trip back to my home state of Vermont that summer, I attended a local antique estate auction (some good stuff. I knew the old lady) and of course, I knew about half the folks there. Nearly every single person I knew took a moment to come up to me and with great glee tell me how much they hated eBay, how horrible it was to their business, how they would never shop there, how they hated the changes of 1999, 1998, how they couldn’t wait until it went under, etc And these are just two out of several stories. This doesn’t happen to me in any environment except with antique dealers (the group with which I most identify). Here is my question... So what is ebay doing to address the buyers negative perceptions of it's brand? For buyers? We are eliminating those things that buyers in scientific studies tell us keep them from shopping on eBay. The biggest issue for buyers is “trust.” Simply put: Buyers will not shop in a marketplace if they don’t have trust in it or in the sellers that sell in it. So the number one mission for attracting buyers is increasing buyer trust. Second is value. This one is easy. Buyers want good deals on good merchandise and a hassle-free transaction. These are the components that make up an overall perception of value. And finally, selection. Ebay has never been a limited marketplace. We have never specialized in one type or category of item. We are determined to provide buyers with as wide a selection of merchandise as possible in a format that makes it easy to find, compare and purchase the items that the buyer seeks. .It seems to me that it has tried hard to "reign in sellers" but what is it doing to restore it's brand image that the internal changes within ebay has caused? You mentioned earlier “scientific studies.” A business depends on reliable, accurate survey data, and eBay is no exception. Although we are not nearly finished with the work that needs to be done, we are seeing definite positive trends in survey data from both buyers and sellers. You can group your response into other inquiries about advertising... Ebay's identity crisis and transformation have left the buyers asking... What is ebay and why do I need to use it?" If ebay doesn't want to be "it's fathers oldsmoble" Then when is it going to tell the world just what it is? eBay is the best place online for great deals. That is who we are and who we will continue to be. That’s it in a nutshell. .
Posted by oregon-grown on Apr 19, 2009 11:41 AM DSRs and UPIs Hi Griff you guys harp on us about everything, These stars are very stupid if you put so much power on the buyer. (no negs) have a buyer keeps bidding on my stuff over $150.00 not much but were talking 99 cent items. E-mailed them 4 times nothing. Going to tell them nicly to pay up at once. And put a non bidding block on them. But the stars I have all 4.9's and 5.0 I'm scared they will kill them any answers. Leo With all 4.9 and 5.0 ratings, you are obviously doing something very right. If the buyer doesn’t pay, file an Unpaid Item report. Based on your current volume of transactions, even if the buyer did leave you a negative (and low ratings) that for some reason, did not qualify for removal (and again, I state here my opinion: I am for removing the ability of buyers to leave feedback for UPI transactions. Don’t shoot the messenger!) it would have a negligible effect on your ratings. Feel free to email me with updates on this transaction. I am always happy to assist a seller in a UPI case where negative feedback has been left. I don’t always succeed, but I do try.
Posted by efavorbags on Apr 19, 2009 11:57 AM Don’t Want to Ship Internationally? You Must Set your Buyer Requirements! Why does eBay want to force sellers to ship International?? We don’t. Every listing I have states clearly: =============== Ships to: United States We do not ship International We ship within the USA ONLY =============== Our preference is set for USA only. We do not put shipping cost for International shipping in any of our listings. This has happened several times in the past and when I wrote to customer service about it, the response was not how "EBay" will correct this and prevent it from happening in the future, but how I should take advantage of the situation and start shipping International!!!! We do not want, wish or desire to ship International. Second and third time this happened, I did not even get a response from customer service at all. Currently I have TWO listings in the works. (one from the UK and the other from Latvia) Both used Buy It Now, so I did not even have a chance to block them. Listings: 130298173135 and 130297044815 We do not want, wish or desire to ship International. I had to file unpaid item dispute to get our fees back for the UK one, who is now threatening us and I see a negative coming our way. The Latvia one just happened last night and I expect it to go the same way. Now I ask you: Do you think I deserve a negative from these buyers? Why does EBay want to force sellers to ship International against their will? Why is Ebay not fixing the problem that is causing International buyers to buy items stated shipping within the USA only? What else can I do to prevent International buyers from buying my items? We do not want, wish or desire to ship International. Then you need to set your Buyer Requirements. Stating that you do not ship internationally does not alone prevent international buyers from bidding or buying. You must also use the Buyer Requirement for blocking buyers who are registered in countries to which you do not ship. (Click the link to read how.) http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/buyer-requirements.html
Posted by marsull_inla on Apr 19, 2009 1:45 PM Media Mail Clarification do you point out in your descriptions that Media Mail can take from 2 – 3 weeks (or longer)? and later those that tend to take the longest time like Media Mail. Make it very clear in your descriptions, in your invoices to buyers and in all follow-up correspondence. Ebay is helping spread incorrect information. From an actual ebay auction page under shipping service- "US Postal Service Media Mail TM Estimated delivery 3 - 10 business days after seller receives cleared payment" As stated above buyers see 3 days and think thats the norm. Can ebay change the wording to reflect reality of Media shipments? I believe so. I may be wrong but I think the wording came from the USPS documentation. I will ask Rich Matsuura if this is possible. What you can do now: Use Buyer Requirements to filter out possible chronic non paying buyers and limit your listings to only those who have PayPal accounts. File UPI reports for all non paying buyers. and later Our goal, as I have stated many times on this thread, is to eliminate, eventually, the possibility of UPIs by changing the transaction model so that all transactions on eBay are paid for upon purchase (like today’s Immediate Payment option for fixed price listings). The above is of no use to me because 1) buyers can get strikes removed One time and not always. This does not lessen the effectiveness of using the Buyer Requirement for blocking buyer with past filed reports of UPI. It does work. And there is nothing to loose by using it. 2) buyers can start new IDs to avoid seller's restrictions We are working on that one (hooray). But in the meantime, if a buyer that you have blocked uses a new ID to subvert the block, you can report the incident to eBay and we will take action against the buyer. 3) soon all negatives will slide off buyers FB The negatives slide off the calculation, not the actual profile. 4) Why should I eliminate 10% of my buyers that use paper payments by requiring immediate payment? Ok, you got me on this one. 5) What about customers who buy multiple items over say a week's period and want combined shipping? This is a shortcoming of Immediate Payment - one that we are working to address. But for now, it can be a deal breaker when it comes to adoption of Immediate Payment. You didn’t mention the most important one: Requiring a PayPal account as a condition for bidding or purchasing. This does not require that a buyer PAY with PayPal, it only means that the buyer has to have a PayPal account. How is this effective? It provides a level of buyer verification not available on eBay. And, sellers who use this requirement see a 17% decrease in UPI rates compared to sellers who don’t use it. Can ebay please replace the buyer's neg feedback block with a "negative feedback left" block? I do not want chronically disgruntled buyers to bid on my items. Or a "buyers # of strikes" block even if the strike was removed? What we can do now: Based on your filed reports, suspend chronic non paying buyers. Does ebay have a way to link accounts that are NARU to new IDs created by the same people using the identical ISP address or "ship to" address? Seems like that would be easy enough to do. Yes we do: for new accounts that provide identical information to a suspended account. As I said above, we are working to make this more effective for preventing suspended members from reregistering. There was recent discussion on another board about a member who clicked on the "solve a problem" button to report a seller (item broken because of very poor packaging, seller told buyer tough luck). Apparently a page popped up for the buyer when filing saying "call ebay" about the dispute. Buyer called, explained and ebay refunded their money. Buyer was not required to ship the item back or offer any proof. Two questions... How will ebay determine if a buyer is being dishonest? What the member experienced was the first testing of our new resolutions process (which we will continue testing and refining over the next year). In this initial test, we assume, with the lack of any evidence to the contrary, that a buyer is honest when they call to report a problem. Where will the refunds come from (ebay or seller)? During this phase of the test, the funds come from eBay. If they come from the seller will there be any dispute process in place? The new resolutions process will take the place of existing dispute process on eBay and PayPal and will include options for sellers to dispute rulings (in fact, more options than currently exist.) Although it is way too early for me to talk about this program (and thus I won’t be able to answer questions about it after this. Thanks). I can say this: in the vast majority of cases where there is no fault, or where the seller has a good history at eBay, eBay will pony up the refund.
Posted by farmerphil2 on Apr 19, 2009 4:48 PM Auto Pay Feature Issue Griff, I would like to know WHY--when I updated my credit card with the new expiration date a month ago for my seller account, first it wouldn't take it(and don't have any idea why, same one on file for 6 years), so I put in another one which it took. I have always in 6 years paid from my checking account, not from the credit card ever. I thought the page looked different, from what I had seen in the last couple of times I updated the expiration date. NOW, I get my invoice for this month's fees, and it's going to be charged to my credit card--and my checking account info is not even there any more?? WTH?? This is bogus, and eBay has automatically changed where I pay my fees from without my consent?? Would like to know why, and I will be getting ahold of eBay by phone Monday, and I won't be very happy about it when I call-- I don’t know why this happened. If you send the details to me in an email, I would be happy to assist you in getting to the bottom of the problem and a solution.
Posted by ted_200 on Apr 19, 2009 5:21 PM PayPal eChecks Griff, I know I'm "over my limit" this week, but related to the last post... I saw an announcement this week about people unable to pay for items by eCheck unless they first update their credit card or add a new credit card with PayPal. I can only assume that most people paying by eCheck are doing so because they do not have a credit card, or refuse to provide that info. to PayPal. What am I missing here? Does this mean that you have to provide a credit card to PayPal to use PayPal? And wouldn't that mean you have to have a credit card to use eBay? It is bad enough on my business here that I cannot (offer to) take checks and money orders anymore. But this is even worse! Where did you see this announcement? I cannot find it. The only possible explanation I can think of is for folks who already have a credit card on file and are sending eChecks. In those cases, if the credit card on file is not up to date, then the eCheck payment will not clear automatically (it will take as long as a paper check to clear the ACH). But PayPal hasn’t eliminated eCheck as an option for buyers with no back up funding option on their accounts. To clarify: All eCheck payments through PayPal have to go through ACH (like paper checks). If a PayPal account holder has a back up funding method, like a credit card, on file, then PayPal clears the funds for the buyer immediately (out of PayPal’s pocket) and waits for the funds to clear. If they don’t, PayPal takes the funds out of the back up funding method.
There are a few posts from last week for which I will provide responses on Monday. (I am taking the weekend off for a change). If your original post is still included in this thread, then it will receive a response then. For now, the thread is reopen for the weekend (or until it hits 50 or so new posts). Remember, posts that duplicate questions previously asked stand a much lower chance of receiving a repsonse. Please do read at least the responses for the current month before posting. Thanks, Griff Jim Griffith


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This is a question from March to which I was unable to post a response till now. Thanks for your patience. Posted by robshelp on Mar 24, 2009 1:31 PM Next Generation View Item Page Questions Hello Griff, For many sellers there are / will be some subtle (and not so subtle) adjustments necessary to adapt to the new View Item page. Most profoundly affected are eBay Store/Shop owners because the standard listing frame option to show a left nav bar with categories is not (currently) offered for the new View Item page layout. For example, recently I encountered an eBay Store owner with a thousand+ listings using a template that includes a big yellow arrow pointing to where the categories would be displayed. Although perhaps not so dramatically, I'm sure most Store owners either reference the category list or depend on it being there as a part of their listing/selling strategy. Along with content, there are structural/coding changes that many (including non-store owner) sellers may need to perform if they use their own HTML or have purchased templates designed specifically for the environment of the current View Item page. At the most basic level the new page imposes a margin on the left that is not present in the current version. Due to the presence of that margin and as a result of the item description going into an iframe 100% isn't 100% any more, nor will a layout designed to fit snugly onto any given screen size still fit. Bottom line, there are significant adjustments required. Because some of those entail forgoing advantageous features of the current item page layout it isn't necessarily a wise decision to immediately begin adapting to the new layout. Furthermore, although eBay has been working on this new layout for an extraodinarily long time there still seems some possibility that further changes to it would require a different set of adjustments. In light of all that, here are my related questions: 1. How many shoppers are intentionally presented with the new View Item page at this time? We don't release that info. We are currently testing three variations in the US, with a very small percentage of buyers in each group. 2. How may shoppers are unintentionally presented with the new View Item page at this time? I ask because I quite accidentally discovered I am able to view all sellers items in the new format when I use FireFox 2 as my web browser if I first view my own items in the new format. Again, we don’t release this specific number. Sellers can choose to see their own listings in the new design. Different browsers and different versions of those browsers handle cookies in different ways—often depending on user settings. It's possible that other sellers can end up seeing items in the new design (assuming they took action to view their own listings in the new design), but these people would not be part of the test we're running 3. Will eBay be offering shoppers a choice of which view they want to use such as the opt-in period that was provided for My eBay and for Search? No. After our testing is complete, we will increase the percentage of buyers who see the new item page design in a couple of increments. These increments are necessary so that we can respond to any unforseen issues or bugs. However, we expect the increase to 100% to happen quickly this summer.] Please answer no! That would be bad for sellers because they'd have no way of knowing which view any particular shopper will be seeing. It would be preferable to set a date when all shoppers are presented with the new layout. It would be better yet if sellers have a grace period to determine that, my next question... 4. Will there be a grace period during which sellers may determine which version of the View Item page their shoppers will be seeing? The migration to the new item page is not listing-based or seller-based. Rather, because it is important for buyers to have a consistent experience, the migration is buyer-based. That is, a buyer moved to the new design will see that design for any listing he or she views. Thank you, Rob
Posted by austiners on Apr 6, 2009 5:35 AM Support for Thermal Printers and OS X (Mac) Griff -- Could you find out the status of PayPal support for thermal printers using a Macintosh? Currently, PayPal supports thermal printers for the Windows platform, but Macintosh users are out in the cold. PayPal suggests that Mac users install an emulation program and run Windows to use a thermal printer, instead of actually fixing the problem themselves. Endicia, which also uses Pitney-Bowes behind the scenes, prints thermal labels for Mac users, so it is clear that it can be done. One can find on the net several complicated work-arounds, but none work flawlessly. It just comes down to one question: When will PayPal support thermal printers (i.e. Dymo) for Macintosh users? I asked our shipping team for an answer and was told the following: In eBay’s label printing flow, we currently do not support thermal printers for Mac. We are investigating it further to figure out, when we can support it in future. That’s all I have at this time. ---------------------------------------------
Posted by robshelp on Apr 17, 2009 5:26 PM Next Generation View Item Page - More Questions Hi Griff, Some of my March questions regarding the new View Item page you have not yet addressed are answered in the Spring Announcements. I have another... In the FAQ: Link the question is asked and answered: Will the iFrame in my item description affect my search engine standings and the marketing of my listings? eBay serves a non-iFrame version of your listings to search bots and all non-browser based requests, so search engine standings will not be affected. The same non-iFrame version of your listings will be served to users with browsers that do not support JavaScript. Will you find out for us, if you can, whether or not the non-iFramed version will be served also to users with browsers that do support JavaScript, but have disabled it? (Yes, there is a difference) In both cases (JS not supported; JS supported but disabled), a non-iframe version of the page will be served. I ask because when a shopper visits the new View Item page (or the current eBay Motors View Item pages) with javascript disabled, links in the item description (including even eBay's automatically added Turbo Lister link) open into the item description (iframed) portion of the page, not the whole page. That could lead to quite a bit of confusion including nested display of VIew Item pages within other View Item pages. Before you answer against the likelihood that shoppers may have JavaScript turned off, please consider how much faster (try it yourself) almost all of eBay seems to perform with it disabled. Anyone with more than a casual interest in speeding up their eBay shopping experience could learn that, but not fully understand the implications. I may as well ask again (never answered from March) if there are any plans to detect a not-displaying iframe due to a web browser similarly having those disabled. Not so far fetched as you might think because eBay displays content in the iframe from a separate domain (potential security issue explained in my original post). No need to detect an iframe that's not displaying because of JS being diabled, since we'll serve a non-iframe version. Thanks, Rob
Posted by ifthatdontbeatall on Apr 17, 2009 7:09 PM DSRs Griff, I am a small, small seller and usually list auction style. I only get between 12 to 20 feedback per month. I ship all my items the day of payment or the next day. I use DC on every package. My shipping charges are actual or free. My DSR scores in shipping time and shipping charges, both are at 4.68. Well, red is flashing before my eyes. How on earth am I going to survive this maddness? I email every buyer at the end of the auction with a nice note, email as soon as I ship with the DC number. It only takes a couple of buyers to ding my stars and I am down again. This is just too much!!! How can Ebay justify the star system? I am a good and honest seller and have been here since 1998. I feel like an ugly step-child. Do something to make me feel better!!! I’ll try my best. I checked your feedback. Your current 12 month averages are 4.9, 4.8, 4.7. 4.7. These are not bad ratings. However, I am certain it is possible to raise them. I checked your listings and found this: “DSR Ratings DSR ratings are important to all sellers. For those who do not know, anything less than a 5 star rating is unacceptable by Ebay standards. A 4 rating can get your favorite seller ban from listing. Please consider this when you leave feedback. Sellers have no control of the actual shipping cost. Nor do we have control of actual time the item is in the mail once it has been shipped.” I don’t recommend sellers include text like this in their descriptions. The statements reflect your concern about your ratings which is understandable. All good sellers are concerned about their ratings. However, the statements do not reflect your concern about the buyer’s experience buying from you. Don’t take offense at this but in reality, most buyers don’t care about a seller’s status. Yes, some do (buyers who are also sellers, for example, as well as repeat customers, etc) I do recommend that sellers provide information about leaving feedback and ratings in their last correspondence with the buyer: the printed packing slip/invoice included in the package with the purchased item. This is the best, and in my opinion, the only time, to mention ratings and even then, they should be mentioned only in the context of your concern with the buyer’s satisfaction with their purchase. Something along the lines of : “I hope you are happy with your item. Please email me if you are not. My goal is to provide 5-star service!” If you ship items for free, add something like the following to the above, “That’s why we provide the most reasonable shipping option possible: Free Shipping!” This points out to the buyer that his or her happiness with the transaction is your only goal (and the subtext says, “Please leave me Five Stars” without begging for them.) You may also want to rethink the wording of your Return Policy: “I do not take returns for buyer’s remorse, ill fit, flaws that are clearly stated in the description. I will however, consider returns for other reasons. Please email with any problems.” Although it is ok for a seller to state the above, consider how this might affect your ratings. For example, a buyer buys something from you and receives and although it is exactly as described, they are not happy with it. It happens. It’s not necessarily anyone’s fault (buyer or seller). But in cases where a buyer cannot return an item for “buyer’s remorse,” (they have read your terms) is it not possible that they might leave all 4’s? After all, they aren’t happy and there is nothing they can do about it since you have stated you won’t take an item back for “buyer’s remorse.” Would it not be wiser to state something like, “Your satisfaction guaranteed. If you are not happy with your purchase, for whatever reason, send it back and I will happily refund your initial payment.” Finally, I am certain it isn’t your intention, but the wording of your Shipping terms could be viewed by a buyer as a bit perfunctory, if not a harsh: “Shipping is listed in every auction. International buyers need to email for cost. For UPS shipping I need a physical address. I ship within 36 hrs. or less, excluding weekends and holidays, once payment has been received. I will send an invoice after the auction ends. Please respond to the invoice as soon as possible. Payment is required within the 7 days.” You might want to consider rewording it as well. When I make recommendations like this, a seller will often ask me what difference does the wording make on my selling? Many sellers believe that if a buyer isn’t happy with their terms of service, they should shop elsewhere (and many probably do) but more often than not, a buyer will choose to purchase from a seller, even after that buyer’s initial less-than-positive impressions of a seller have been set by the presentation that seller provided in their listing description and TOS. (And buyers tend to remember these first impressions when leaving feedback and ratings.) These tips are not guaranteed to result in all 5’s across the board (there will always be buyers – thankfully a miniscule minority – who will leave a 4 instead of a 5) but they can help raise your ratings. Let us know if you do adopt them, how they work out.
Posted by ifthatdontbeatall on Apr 17, 2009 7:11 PM More on DSRs Oh, I forgot to add that I leave feedback as soon as I ship an item or at payment. A very wise strategy!
Posted by ted_200 on Apr 17, 2009 7:17 PM An Archived Thread and Recent Announcements Hi, Griff. You started a thread titled "The Customer: Always Right?" and invited everyone to discuss this concept. Now, there is a buyer situation here that I thought would be a useful example for that discussion - the guy who posted "I've got a bad feeling about this one..." who sells sports cards - but I could not find the discussion anywhere. After much searching, I finally located it on page 37 (it is even further down now), last posted to on Feb. 25. It does not indicate it has been locked (although I understand that has since been changed), but there are no reply buttons in the discussion, it cannot be posted to, and is rapidly sinking further and further back to never be seen again (by design, no doubt). At the top it indicates it has been "archived". You can find it here: Link My questions are: Why was this thread "locked", even though it did not indicate locked? Why has it since been locked? It wasn’t locked. It was automatically archived. This is a feature of the new discussion board format. Once a certain period of time passed with no new posts, a thread is either deleted or, if the creator of the thread had admin rights and selected “no auto delete,” it is archived. An archived thread remains available until it is manually deleted. Why have you never commented any further on this subject? As I said at the top of that thread, my purpose was not to participate in a discussion. It was to encourage among sellers, a discussion on the topic.. What do you have to say about the dozens of examples of outright fraud that are posted there, and continue to be posted to Seller Central each and every day since it was locked? If someone has been defrauded by another member, and they need assistance with resolution, they are always free to email me and I will assist them. I know you said you were not going to interject in the discussion, but since it has apparently ended, I thought you might provide some insight into why you posted it, why it was locked, and if it had any effect on your own answer to the question you posed in it. I posted it to start a seller discussion on the topic. I didn’t lock it (it auto-archived). And I was curious to see if the resulting discussion might provide insights to inform or alter opinions on the subject of customer service. I found the ensuing discussion interesting with a few good points made. Keep in mind the purpose was not to provide me a platform to express my views on the topic. That’s why I stayed out of it. I believe sellers can learn more from each other in these discussions than from just one person. On a related note, you promised some "good news" for sellers in the Spring Announcement. I was wondering, can you elucidate what in there is supposed to be "good news" for sellers? Sure. Here’s a list of ten examples from the recent announcement and how each benefits all sellers: 1.The capacity to display larger photographs (zoom) so that your buyers can see more clearly what it is you are selling (and help prevent confusion about condition, etc). Less confusion on the part of buyers means less chance of those buyers filling disputes regarding an item’s condition. Fewer buyer disputes are good for all sellers. 2.More buyer loyalty programs (eBay Bucks for example). By providing buyers with a system whereby they can collect “eBay Bucks” to spend on eBay based on their spending, (and the eBay Bucks money comes from eBay, not sellers, btw), we will provide more incentive for those buyers to spend more on eBay. When buyers spend more on eBay, it is good for all sellers. 3.The ability for sellers to provide their own custom tags for their listings which will make them easier for buyers to find. The easier it is for a buyer to find an item, the better the chances of the buyer purchasing that item. More purchases means more sales for sellers, and, wait for it… more sales are good for all sellers! 4.Multi variations will let a seller list one product in one listing with an easier way for buyers to choose variations of that product (size, color, etc) without having to indicate the variation in a separate communication. This means faster buyer decisions, less chance for confusion or mix-ups, less transaction friction, and lower listing costs, all of which are of course, good for all sellers who list items that come in multiple variations. 5.Smart FAQ’s to help cut down the time spent by many sellers answering customer queries for basic questions. The less time spent on a repetitive task, the more time to spend on other aspects of a business which is, indeed, good for all sellers. 6.Selling Manager will be free to all sellers. Selling Manager provides many features to improve a seller’s efficiency with regards to recording, listing management, customer management, etc. And, free is good too. 7.Printing postage and labels directly from eBay (as an alternative to printing them on PayPal or a third party site). Keeping this information and process in one place provides better efficiency for all sellers. 8.Better Bulk Editing tools. Our current tools are insufficient to handle the types of editing that sellers need to accomplish whenever there are changes made to site features or policies. Better bulk editing tools will significantly shorten the amount of time it takes to make edits to all parts of a large group of listings. Less time spent on bulk editing is good for all sellers. 9.Tracking information uploaded automatically into My eBay (works in tandem with 6 and 9). Uploading tracking information into the eBay end of listing management will provide a way for sellers to assure buyers their packages have shipping (and are either tracked or have Delivery Confirmation). More recorded information regarding shipping and tracking provides sellers with more protection in cases of INR. More protection in disputes is good for all sellers. 10.A better dispute and resolution process. The current dispute processes are in need of improvement. (as evidenced by the ongoing discussions on this topic in various threads across eBay’s discussion forums for one). The new resolutions process will live entirely inside eBay (as opposed to living between eBay and PayPal). It will provide a faster channel for buyers and sellers to resolve disputes amicably between themselves and it will provide sellers with a better level of protection in cases where they are not at fault. This is definitely good for all sellers. Hope that helps answer your question.
Posted by ted_200 on Apr 17, 2009 7:23 PM Coins: Replicas and Categories My other question this week revolves around a previously asked question: Your answer to vedave regarding replica coins and why they are not required to be listed in the "reproductions" categories within Coins and Paper Money was unsatisfactory. You replied: "We can create a category for legal coin replicas and we can take reports of Miscategorized items and move them as appropriate but since we cannot rule on what is and isn’t a replica coin (we are not the experts, we don’t hire item experts and we don’t handle the merchandise so even if we did have item experts, they couldn’t rule on items they didn’t actually handle) we can only rely on reports from other members and even then, it can take 24 hours or longer to move items into the appropriate categories." 1. The categories already exist. 2. The current policies do not require these categories be used. So if someone lists a replica Morgan Dollar in the Morgan Dollar category, instead of the Dollars > Reproductions category, and it is reported, it will not be removed because it is a replica of a MORGAN DOLLAR. 3. What do you mean, "we cannot rule on what is and isn't a replica coin"? Here is eBay policy on replica coins: The sale of replica coins and paper currency is regulated by U.S. federal law. Accordingly, the sale of such items is permitted on eBay as long as the following requirements are met: Replica coins Any "reproduction," "replica," or "copy" coin (U.S. or foreign) must be plainly and permanently marked with the word "COPY". The listing must include a photo of the coin with the appropriate markings. Images that are dark, out of focus, doctored, or otherwise deemed misleading are not permitted. Stock photos are also not permitted. The listing must clearly state that it is a "reproduction," "replica" or "copy" in both the title and description. We are not talking about unmarked replicas that are not properly identified (those would be "counterfeit" or "forgeries" coins - a whole other issue eBay needs to deal with, but outside of what vedave and I and others are asking here). We are asking about listings that say "REPLICA" in the title, "REPLICA" in the description, and have the word "COPY" stamped into the coin in the photo. How can you possibly say eBay cannot rule on this - it is plain as the nose on my face (I'll leave your face out of this...)! If you find a coin listing that is in violation of this policy, you should report it directly to Trust and Safety using the Report This Item link. All this requires is adding one single sentence to the Replica policy I posted above. "Replica coins must be listed in the "Reproductions" categories within Coins and Paper Money, and must not be listed in the categories intended for authentic coins." Again, why cannot this be done? I don’t know. Maybe it can be done. I will ask. Yes, Any "reproduction," "replica," or "copy" coin (U.S. or foreign) must be plainly and permanently marked with the word "COPY". My point in the first response was that if a replica coin is not marked as such and there is nothing in the listing description to indicate, overtly or covertly that the coin is or might be a replica, we cannot rule that it is. We are not coin experts and we don’t hire coin experts to make these rulings. Thanks for your consideration of these issues, and taking the time to continue to communicate with the users here. My pleasure.
Posted by adrian44 on Apr 17, 2009 8:23 PM How To Appeal a SNAD Claim Hello Griff and thank you for taking the time to answer questions! I realize this subject has been around a few times with no helpful answers or I missed them. This has now happened to two of my friends and my daughter. Buyer states item is SNAD and files claim with Paypal. They return item with DC so Paypal refunds buyers money. Seller receives returned item and it is NOT the item they sold. What can a seller do or what can Paypal or eBay do to avoid this fiasco? I posted instructions on how to appeal a SNAD case of this type (buyer sends back something other than what the seller sold and sent) earlier in this April thread (Post 5). The title is: Posted by katydidscards on Apr 3, 2009 1:37 PM , The Hypothetical SNAD/Buyer Fraud Question I have some additional information to add, so I will repeat that post here. (The new detailed information is in italics). Sellers have the ability to appeal Significantly Not as Described cases that are found in favor of the buyer for the following reasons:
  • The item was returned in a condition other than the buyer received, ( this does not include normal wear and tear from the return shipping.)
  • No item is returned (empty box)
  • The wrong item is returned
  • PayPal made an error during the initial case closure
In order to appeal a Significantly Not as Described case a seller should log into their resolution center and click the “appeal” button:

PayPal will generally require the seller to provide documentation to support their appeal. For payments $199 or below the seller will need to fill out an online affidavit that will be provided by PayPal. For payments over $199 a police report will be required. Please that there may be additional documentation required by PayPal before an appeal is processed. The type of documentation required will be determined on a case by case basis and will be provided to the seller at the time of appeal. Upon receipt of the supporting documents the case will be facilitated in the order it is received and a PayPal representative will review the case and determine if the appeal should be granted. In some cases the seller may be required to ship the item to PayPal prior to receiving their credit. If an appeal is granted the seller will be reimbursed for the amount of the transaction and the buyer’s account will be documented and reviewed for potential abuse of PayPal’s Policies. Please note that abuse of PayPal’s policies by either a buyer or seller is strictly prohibited. In addition to the above, all sellers should take pre-emptive action to reduce the chance that a buyer with fraudulent intentions will bid on or purchase your item or if they do, they will have greatly diminished chances of winning a SNAD claim:

  • Provide clear pictures of all aspects of each item (front, back, sides, etc) with close-ups where ever appropriate.
  • If you items have any unique identifying marks, show them in close-up photos. This includes serial numbers, scratches, marks, tears, cracks, etc. Feature them all.
  • Indicate in your return policy that all items returned must be returned in their original condition.
If you should receive a returned item that is not what you sent originally, keep the box, the item, all packaging and any labels, packing slips, etc. Immediately photograph the contents and packaging and immediately contact the closest law enforcement office and file a police report (for items valued at $199 or above) and then file the appeal per the instructions above. Or for items valued at $199 or less, immediately file an appeal following the steps above and follow the instructions for the online affidavit form. Do not wait! I don’t advise contacting the buyer. At least not until you have filed the appeal and required paperwork. Last of all, if this happens to you, don’t panic. You can win these cases on appeal. Just make sure to follow the steps above. If you run into an issue, feel free to contact me at griff@ebay.com using your regular email, not My Messages! I cannot respond to seller or buyer emails using My Messages!
Posted by jr49321 on Apr 17, 2009 8:38 PM Restricted for Listing Hi Griff, I've recently started selling here again after a long absence and am being restricted in certain areas that I want to sell in. I understand that I have to build my feedback up before the restrictions are lifted but I don't understand why those restrictions prevent me from editing auctions I have waiting in my scheduler. If an auction is not even showing to the public yet---and won't for days---why are we restricted from editing it? That's not fair in my opinion. I need more details (I am assuming this restriction is for certain brand name items you have scheduled to list). Send the details to me at griff@ebay.com using your regular email (Not My Messages Please!) and I will forward it to the appropriate department.
Posted by ozzie3 on Apr 17, 2009 8:48 PM Seller Protection in UPI Disputes "Sellers have protection in filed UPI cases. It is not accurate to say they have “no protection.” And, that is what is known as creating something out of nothing! Exactly what protection do ALL sellers have on filed UPI cases! Unless you mean, heaven forbid, that because one seller files a report on a UPI that that will somehow prevent another buyer from not paying as he sees that a seller was protected. If you can not protect sellers from bad feedback from UPI, then they have no protection, although they might have protection if they block that bidder from bidding again You have no idea of how this parsing of question with these types of answers affect some sellers My response was 100% accurate. Sellers do have protection from negative feedback in many filed UPI cases. It is inaccurate for anyone to claim this is not true (to claim that sellers have no protection). I did not say “all sellers.” (You did.) Yes, currently, not all UPI cases where a negative has been filed will result in that negative’s removal. But many are (I see them every day). I have, on more than one occasion here, made my own opinion on UPI and feedback clear (UPI cases should result in no feedback, ever). However, it is a disservice to sellers for anyone to claim that all sellers currently have “no protection” as an absolute.
Posted by ozzie3 on Apr 17, 2009 10:14 PM Shipping Calculator Messaging What, exactly , does this mean? Important: If you send an eBay invoice to a buyer or enter charges in a Selling Manager Sales Record, the shipping and insurance costs you enter will take priority over the calculated shipping costs, and the buyer will be charged the amounts you enter. And how does it interact with this? "Note:This shipping information is provided to you for general information purposes and may not be applicable or accurate for shipments processed with some carriers or for goods shipped across certain international borders. Please check with your carrier for any special rules that govern your shipment of goods. For international shipments, please also check with countries whose borders your shipment may cross for any additional rules, regulations, duties, or taxes that apply. " Now the second one says the shipping information may be incorrect when you use eBay's information, And the first one simply says that what you say on the invoice is what the buyer will be charged! How does that correct the information provided by the shipping calculator? Are those the real effective policies for determining shipping costs using the calculator? Why not? The first statement provides information for sellers who edit their invoices before sending them, specifically, the shipping charges. The second statement is for charges that are beyond the capacity of any shipping calculator to know. For example, for international sales, any assessed duties, taxes or fees. The shipping calculator cannot calculate these. Another example: carriers may require additional fees (or paperwork or both) for certain types of items (hazardous materials for example). Again, the shipping calculator cannot calculate those. That is why this paragraph is included for the buyer, so that the buyer doesn’t hold the seller responsible for those post shipping fees that might be applied to the service upon delivery.
Posted by nanartchik on Apr 18, 2009 3:56 AM Relevance Dear Griff, Thanks for the answers on Best Match and Search. As I am still trying to figure out how it might be possible for me to continue selling on eBay, I have a few follow-up questions. Even though I understand that Best Match is not going to be the way most - or any - Bidders find my listing, I was curious as to the meaning of one term used in describing the way Best Match sorts: Could you explain "relevance" as it pertains to Best Match. How is "relevance"determined? “Relevance” is determined by what the buyer uses for search terms or search key words. These key words are matched against the database of existing listings and weighted by matches to keywords used in item titles. Secondly: You responded to my previous questions about finding my art on eBay: My point: Sort order (Best Match, Time Ending Soonest, Newly Listed, etc) has little or nothing to do with how available your items are. What really matters are title keywords and quantity of listings within the category, especially in the Art category. In fact, in this category Everything depends one the keywords a buyer uses to find your items and the number of items listed by one seller. and nearly all of them have at least 10 current listings, and most have closer to 50 to 100 items. Although they do not all have the words "painting floral" in their titles, each of the extra listings provides another "window" into their total listings (or eBay Stores). I understand that if I list 50 – 100 “items” – difficult for me to think of an original painting of mine as an “item” – is my increased visibility because there is just more chances of a Bidder finding me? Yes. As when one uses buckshot, rather than a single bullet – forgive me, I am not a hunter, but that is the only analogy I can think of. The analogy fits. Of course, it depends on what the searcher uses for search terms but if a buyer searches for, say, “floral paintings,” and there are 300 returned results, having say, 10 of the seller’s items returned in the results (regardless of ranking) as opposed to say, 1 result, gives that seller better chances of being picked out by the buyer. Or, do Sellers who list a lot of “product” get a higher place in the list? I know that PowerSellers go to the front of the line, and Diamond Sellers get an even higher placement. No. Not true. No seller receives an advantage in Best Match ranking because they are a PowerSeller of any level, Bronze to Diamond. . PowerSeller status is not a criteria for ranking in Best Match. Thanks, Speaking of Diamond Sellers…My next question has to do with Keywords, and the rules regarding same. I understand the importance of Keywords in the Title. I also thought I understood what the rules were regarding “keyword spamming” and “search manipulation” until I did some research on the large Sellers who are my competition, (and according to Lorrie Norrington, the future of eBay.) Unless a Diamond Powerseller or large Seller is selling items similar to yours, they are not your competition. I checked your category and though there are PowerSellers in that category, there are no Diamond PowerSellers selling in the Art category. PowerSellers, yes, but none are Diamond level. And no one category of seller is the “future” of eBay. In my research on my competition, those Diamond Sellers who list a lot of paintings, and I came across this: There are no Diamond PowerSellers listing paintings in your category. Monet "Walking Near Argenteuil" Oil Painting Own a work of art! These large hand-painted reproductions carefully recreate original masterpieces, brushstroke for brushstroke, detail for detail, in brilliant oil paints. Features Monet "Walking Near Argenteuil" oil painting Oil reproduction of an original painting by Monet 30" x 34" 100% Hand painted, oil on canvas The original masterpiece was created in 1875 Mediterranean wood frame with gold finish Frame width = 5" Arrives ready to hang on wall Link Isn’t this a violation? No. This is not an original Monet. In the listing title, the seller does not identify this as a copy – which is what it is, rather than a reproduction. If I was searching for a “real” Monet, and came across this listing, I – as an artist with a BFA – would certainly know it wasn’t created by Claude Monet in 1875, but would the general public? Sure. When they read the listing, it states: “Oil reproduction of an original painting by Monet” Isn’t this misleading, as least as far as the title of the listing goes? Not really. A real “Monet” for $179 and free shipping? On eBay? I think not. ;) I suppose the seller could say “reproduction” in his title but he isn’t (and you aren’t) required to do so. And isn't the point that a Keyword Search for "Monet" will bring this up, especially since this is a Diamond Seller. (The seller is not a Diamond PowerSeller.) Sure. It would bring it up for any seller of the same painting. If I was listing the painting and I titled it “Monet "Walking Near Argenteuil" oil painting” it would come up in a search for “monet.” I am not a Diamond Powerseller and the title is not a policy violation. Currently, I am doing a series of Famous Art Parodies, and I have been oh-so-careful NOT to violate the rules regarding KWS. When I did a parody of Jacques Louis David’s “Death of Marat”, I did not put the original artist’s name in the title, although that surely would have helped Bidders understand what the painting was. Similarly, I could have reached a much larger Keyword Search audience, if I put the words "Munch" "VanGogh" and even "Mantegna" in my titles. (Mantegna is a Renaissance painter, and the subject of my currently running parody.) That was a mistake. Including the name of the artist that your art is parodying is not a violation of policy! If your painting is a parody of a Mantegna (ripe for parody I might add. I was fortunate years ago, to view up close his incredible frescoes in the Camera degli Sposi in the Palazzo Ducale in Mantua . Jawdropping.) then you should use the term “Mantegna” in the title. Doing so is not a violation of the keyword spam policy. Just because it isn’t an original Mantegna (what? On eBay?… I suppose it could happen. What a lucky person that buyer would be!) doesn’t mean you cannot use the word. This goes for words like “Van Gogh” or “Picasso” or “Jacques Louis David.” Admittedly, this Series is a narrow niche market, but I have gotten more attention and "buzz" on these works than the more traditional art I have listed. It is just this kind of unique "item" that has made eBay famous. And you should start titling them appropriately as soon as possible so you can garner even more traffic. . Oh, and if I could produce and list 50 - 100 paintings at a time, I wouldn't be an artist...I'd be a factory. (And I suspect that is the way those bogus "Monets" are being produced.) The demand for reproduction art is huge, thus the supply. (That’s how markets work.) Personally, I would rather have a real work of art by an unknown artist than a reproduction of a famous work. Luckily, there are still many buyers who feel the same. Some artists I have known are nearly as prolific as a factory so it is possible to be both. By the way, apropos of nothing, I was a decorative artist for several years prior to my tenure at eBay. I worked in NYC schmearing murals on the walls of the rich and famous. Thus my more pointed interest in your selling on eBay.
Posted by here_we_have on Apr 18, 2009 4:09 AM A NARUed Buyer Help me Griff, I have/had? a buyer of 3 items, currently a NARU member. I recieved no email from ebay stating such, just ''note from ebay'' attached to the bottom of the sold listing in myebay. When I click the naru link there, it takes me to a page concerning not being able to leave feedback. I'm really not concerned about the FB now, (I've already been hurt enough as it is). Should not this link take me to a HELP PAGE that describes what I, as a seller, should do next??? Yes, it should. That would be more helpful. I will pass this suggestion on to the appropriate team. What would you do next? File a UPI and immediately relist (I wouldn’t wait). This buyer has been registered just less than ninety days, has received 150 FB , 100% as buyer and seller.
Posted by buriedbybooks on Apr 18, 2009 6:59 AM PayPal Process for SNAD Claims A buyer must check a box saying they're not filing a false dispute, and they must use an online form to tell PayPal how it was significantly not as described. If they do that, then we take them at their word that the item was misrepresented. Griff, the above post is from Monroe. You can find it on the special announcement forum. I would like to know why we were mislead about the TRUE nature of how Paypal SNADs work. Since we were told that Paypal 'investigated' those claims and made a decision after looking at the 'evidence.' Not all SNAD claims are decided automatically in favor of the buyer without prior investigation. Claims made for transactions over a certain value (undisclosed) or by buyers who have made previous claims are first investigated by a rep. And all appeals are investigated by a rep. Instead, we're told that all a buyer has to do is assure Paypal that they're not lying. I find it disturbing that so little effort is made to make sure buyers aren't using the SNAD process to overturn a seller's return policy. And that the disputes, themselves, are used to punish sellers without any attempt to verify the veracity of the claim. The “appeal” option is available to every seller in a SNAD case. Here's my question: Why doesn't Paypal/eBay put a FIRM limit on the number of times a buyer can file a SNAD dispute? We don’t use a number. We use a percentage. Using a number wouldn’t make sense. There is a big difference between five reports filed by a buyer who has purchased 50 items and five reports filed by a buyer who has purchased 1000 items. Thus, we do use a percentage (filed reports over number of purchases). The competition eBay is so bent on copying has a firm limit of 5 LIFETIME claims. But the anecdotal evidence seen here shows us that certain buyers are allowed to abuse this process without any repercussions whatsoever. That is not true. And in fact, if it is determined that a buyer actually defrauded a seller (“Rock in a Box “scenario), eBay will take action against the buyer. (And though I cannot speak directly to any single non eBay site’s policies, we do know that all of them will intervene on behalf of the buyer more often than their stated policies might imply.)
Posted by buyalot! on Apr 18, 2009 8:23 AM Small and Large Flat Rate Priorty Boxes Availability Griff, Rich said that PayPal was "ready" for the change to accommodate Small and Large Flat Rate Box and that it would come out in Q2 2009. Now, Anar has posted in the announcement forum that Small and Large Flat Rate Boxes, the latter of which has been around since March 2008, "will not be added in PayPal labels." Not now, not ever. "PayPal is looking at working into PayPal's label solution in the future. But we don't have definite plans to do so at this point." Link I feel like I have been lied to. I use PayPal shipping for my off-eBay sales. Also, I use MultiOrder Shipping because the acceptance scan is very important to me - because without it, the Delivery Confirmation number - which eBay calls Tracking unapologetically - never shows that I gave the item to USPS, making buyers nervous and dispute/neg trigger-happy. I will not be using the eBay label product until it has SCAN form support. Therefore for all intents and purposes, eBay has dropped the ball on Small and Large Flat Rate Box, again. What the heck is so hard about adding two more items in a drop down list on the PayPal shipping product? PayPal always gets all of the other rate changes in on time, but this one thing always seems to be a stumbling point - just look at how long the first Flat-Rate Box took to show up in PayPal shipping. In the past you have said it was a problem with the carrier. But USPS isn't the problem, clearly, since the labels will be available from eBay labels. Seriously, I know the coders at PayPal are smart folks - is there some ulterior motive at play here keeping these options out of PayPal shipping? Do Endicia and Stamps have something to do with this? I hope you can see why so many eBay sellers find this ridiculous. Small and Large Flat Rate Priority Boxes will be available in the eBay Label Printing product. As for the PayPal Label product: as soon as we can provide them there, we will. Keep in mind that with the PayPal labels, we work through a third party (Pitney Bowes), and not directly with the carriers.
Posted by the-cash-man on Apr 18, 2009 10:12 AM Private Auctions Griff, I am a seller and a buyer on eBay. I sometimes like to buy expensive goods, and I often on expensive items see that the auctions are "private". I get very skeptical of "private" auctions as I feel that they are a way to hide shill bidding. Their were legitimate sellers that were using these auctions to prevent fake second chance offers, and other spam from being sent to their bidders. The purpose of Private Auctions was to protect the privacy of buyers who were buying in adult categories. It has recently been used by sellers to keep "Best Offer" prices from showing up on Feedback Pages. Now that the masked bidder ID's have eliminated fake second chance offers and other spam why can't the masked ID's show up on "Private Auctions"? I'm seeing more and more of these private auctions and I click the back button. What harm does it do to put the encrpyted ID's on the bid pages. Good point. I will forward to the appropriate team for their response.
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Thanks everyone for your posts and questions. I will close the thread now for a few days to research and compose responses. Regards, Griff Jim Griffith


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Hello everyone, It's been a very busy week here in San Jose with the Spring Update announcements and Town Hall (not to mention a flood of email) but I'm caught up and can now re-open the AG thread for more questions. Before posting, please review the guidelines at the top of this thread. I'll close the thread on Sunday evening (April 19th) and start compiling responses on Monday. Thanks! Griff Jim Griffith


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austiners: I am still waiting for information regarding your question (Thermal printers, PayPal postage and Mac computers). I will post it as a single response tomorrow. Thanks, Griff
Posted by pkmg9999 on Apr 3, 2009 7:49 PM Sellers from China and Non OEM Electronics Griff, Is eBay aware of the spam problem in the electronic accessory departments from generic and counterfeit items from Chinese sellers? We are aware that many sellers from China are offering generic electronic items (which are not necessarily considered 'counterfeit') Let me explain the current problems using an example. Do a eBay search for "NP-BG1". You will get over 2,000 results!! It is a digital camera battery made by Sony. Buy it new directly from Sony and it will cost you ~$45. Now look at eBay item #250400283415. Yup for $10 you can buy a "brand new Sony battery" from China. Only problem is Sony does not have any official parties to sell "new" Sony items on eBay that I am aware of. The truth is this item is a counterfeit battery as you can later tell in the listing when you see the true picture of the item and not the stock photo they used for the gallery. I did take a look at this listing. It is not advertised as a "brand new Sony battery." It is advertised as New Camera Battery For SONY Cybershot NP-BG1 NPBG1 There is a very big difference. This battery is not a "counterfeit." Had the listing said, "Brand New Sony Battery", it would be ended. However, it is not illegal for a manufacturer to make a product that works in another manufacturer's product (like these batteries that fit a Sony camera but are not made by Sony). Again, the distinction is crucial: As long as the item itself is not advertised as from the manufacturer, it is ok to offer it for sale (here or anywhere else). There is an eBay Policy that calls this distinction out. It can be found on this Help Page Exceptions related to the use of brand names Members are permitted to indicate the compatibility of an accessory to various specific brand name items and/or models, as long as words such as "compatible with", "for" or "fits" precede those brand name or model references. Here is a list of the many problems in this category: 1) Tons of generic Chinese sellers list counterfeit electronic accessories on eBay. It would be one thing if they sold generic items and were forthcoming about it. However a large percentage of the knockoffs for sale are spammed and marketed as the genuine item. I went through this category carefully and could not find any items that are in violation of eBay policy. If you have one that you believe is in violation, please feel free to send it to me for examination. I have tried to report these listings to eBay over and over. The policy that eBay currently has in place either nothing is done at all to the listing, they get a slap on the wrist, or they lose their account only to come back onto eBay selling on a different one a day later. I have even tried reporting the listings to Sony directly, but it is just impossible to report them all its like trying to hold back a landslide. There was no action taken because there was no violation. 2) Chinese sellers compete against one another and spam the category with hundreds of listings a day. Now add "Best Match" into play here. They get to be on top of the "best search" because their items are dirt cheap because they are generic, they always offer free shipping, they sell thousands of items in the category, and they have dozens of items selling daily. And this is all within the rules of listing on eBay. Can you guess what happens when I try to sell a few "used genuine Sony batteries" in this category? I pray to god people search my specific keyword such as "genuine and authentic", but even then they have to fight through the Chinese listings that spammed those words in the title also. I went through the category and searched on "genuine" and "authentic" and could not find any non OEM batteries being represented as "genuine" or "authentic." If you find any, you should report them. Solutions: I hope that after reading that you will agree with me that it is way to hard for buyers to search these categories for genuine accessories. I confess I don't. In fact, I tried several searches for actual brand name batteries and generics for several different cameras and was able to find them without a problem. I think the easiest and fastest solution to this problem is to add another category for electronic accessories. So that there is one category only for people to list real accessories made by the manufacturer, and one for people to list the generic items. This would make it much easier for buyers to either find a cheap generic item if thats what they want, or to find a qualitiy authentic item as well. New categories are always a possibility. I will forward your request for a separate category to the appropriate persons for their consideration. I would like to close asking you what else you propose we could do? We already tried reporting listings to eBay and to the companies in question, and I am unaware of what else we can do to take back the category. I really hope that someday eBay will create a reporting system that will actually have power to make a difference. Unless the items are in clear violation of policy, reporting them would not be constructive. In the meantime, using clear keywords and item specifics are the best ways to list and compete in this category.
Posted by kitchco on Apr 4, 2009 12:25 PM My Messages and Shipping Insurance Questions Coupla questions - When I receive an answer from a question to a seller, the original question is not included in the email reply. As it may take awhile, or I may have more than one question outstanding, it's a royal pain to have go back and wade through my messages to figure out what question is being answered. I just had two answered as "yes". The original question used to be included. When requiring insurance, as necessitated by new paypal policies, the insurance is automatically added. How is this done before the actual selling price is determined? It isnít. The amount for insurance is added to the customer invoice after the listing closes. It is calculated on the amount of the winning bid or purchase based on the insurance rate tables for the particular carrier and class of service the seller has provided to the buyer. And if I base the insurance value according to the cost determined by ebay, as opposed to the actual value, who gets left holding the bag if the shipper screws up or loses a very expensive item? Thanks to the new policies, if I contact the buyer with a higher insurance charge, they're going to hammer me with feedback. If a seller is using the eBay Shipping Calculator to provide shipping costs to his buyer, the buyer pays insurance based on the value shown as the purchase price or winning bid. A seller cannot raise the value (and thus, the insurance charged) over the amount of the purchase price or winning bid. Why can't we opt out of listing either of the two horrid choices for shipping? It seems the buyers cut off their own noses with this one. From what I've seen, this has not stopped anyone who really want to from listing exhorborant shipping charges and made life difficult for a lot of us. I am not absolutely certain what you mean by ìthe two horrid choicesî but will assume you mean UPS and USPS. A seller can select the option for Standard Flat Rate shipping (which is not tied to a particular carrier).
Posted by buriedbybooks on Apr 4, 2009 12:36 PM Ask Griff Thread Guidelines re: Posting IDs As a follow up regarding this: Starting this month, please only post using an active eBay selling ID. Posts using what is clearly a posting ID - an ID created solely for posting - will be deleted without response. I'd like to ask if/how discussing this change to the posting guidelines for your thread in a separate thread violates board policy. It doesnít If it does, can you please direct me to the exact policy such a discussion violates? A link? It doesnít violate policy to discuss or post opinions on anything in this thread. This is a significant alteration to your previous guidelines. And since you prefer that we not post commentary on the Ask Griff thread itself, it seems reasonable to me that discussion of your rules on separate Seller Central threads should be allowed. Discuss away! Especially since posters may not notice the change and grow angry and/or frustrated when their questions posted with a posting id are removed per your rule. That anger and frustration would likely not occur if posters saw a discussion about the new rule and were informed PRIOR to posting on your thread.
Posted by thecentre777 on Apr 4, 2009 12:44 PM Featured Listings Hi Griff, I really really think it is unfair for E Bay to give buyers so much power to hurt a sellers discount, and search standing. I always and I restate ALWAYS ship for less then my actual shipping and handling cost. (I OFTEN ship for FREE) Buyers still hurt my shipping DSRs. I also must tell you that E Bay has forced me to stop listing certian items because of Best Match. I am now forced to give free shipping and handling on most of my items. (If I don't list with free shiping and handling, the item will never show up on the first page) I have stopped listing some items because I can't make any money. I end up giving E Bay and Pay Pal a bunch of money, and I get little zero profit. Best Match has to go! Also, at times I have listed items with free shipping, and I paid for featured plus, and it still never ended up on the first page. (Even with 1 min left in teh auction) I even have raised search standings according to E Bay. Featured does not guarantee that an item will show up on the first page of a search or browse of a category. Featured listings appear at the top of the page where the item normally appears. For example, if in a search with the sort of Ending Soonest, if your auction format listing was also Featured, it would appear on the same page that the actual item appears. You can read more about Featured and how it works in the eBay Help Pages
Posted by katydidscards on Apr 4, 2009 2:29 PM Designating Specific Countries for Shipping or Not Shipping Hi Griff, I would like to formally request that sellers be permitted to designate specific countries to which they will not ship. As it stands now, for example, all of Europe covers a number of countries. I might wish to not ship to a specific one, but I cannot do so. So if I de-select the whole of Europe, I lose all the rest of the countries to which I am happy to ship. This seems like throwing the baby out with the bathwater. So would it be possible for us to create an exceptions list? Or radio buttons for each country within a given subgroup of International? I know I (and I presume many other sellers) would find that a great boon. This is a popular request. At the moment, I donít believe it is a top line priority but I have brought up the option for selecting by country in the past and will continue to do so. What many sellers do (myself included) is for certain items, block, say Europe with a statement in the description asking anyone located in Europe to contact me. If someone does, I can at my discretion, add them to my Buyer Exemption list.
Posted by patlisa514 on Apr 4, 2009 3:18 PM Cannot Navigate to Sell Your Item page hello. I was looking for direction. I have sold quite a few times before. Today I am trying to list items and cannot bring up the "sell an item" page. I can go anywhere else but there. I have tried right-clicking, and every other way to get to the sell an item page. Any suggestions? Lisa Go to the Sell Your Item by clicking this link Then click the big blue Start Selling button. If this doesnít work, email me at griff@ebay.com (using regular email, not My Messages!)
Posted by penguinsfan4life on Apr 4, 2009 6:24 PM Half.com Help Hello Griff I have a few questions. Why does NO ONE from livehelp know anything about half.com, and why can't they assist you. The phone number for half.com is for claims only. Any other issue and they disconnect you immediately after telling to to speak to ebay. No one from ebay can even look up a transaction, much less offer any information that is helpful, including contact information for fellow ebay members. If half.com is subjected to DSRs for shipping time, despite having ot offer media mail, shouldn't someone at least be able to help us at livehelp or via email? Half.com does not provide phone support but there is direct email. Did you navigate through the Half.com Help Wizard? My other issue is, why did it take Tand S a month to acknowedge my email to them and why wasn't it even read? When I called to find out what was going on after filing the information about a mallicious buyer, I was apologized to and asked to resend my evidence that someone circumvented by BBL, as livehelp confirmed that my email was mia. Before I sent it, my claim was "resolved" (without any help to me, as the neg and dinged stars remained) I apologize if your email to T&S was not facilitated in a timely manner. Feel free to email the details to me and I will work on your behalf to resolve the issue stemming from this transaction. Send details to me at griff@ebay.com using your regular email, not My Messages).
Posted by devildog683 on Apr 4, 2009 8:36 PM Digital Download Policy Griff, When was digital delivery removed as an option? I had some one from the seller support team tell me it was "never an option". I know this isnt true, so when was it removed? The change in the Digital Download policy was announced in March, 2008 in a post on the Announcement Board. Here is the Link.
Posted by ozzie3 on Apr 4, 2009 9:21 PM Griff Doesnít Know Everything (so true!) Question; Did you ever think of the curiousness of this whole business? You have been on eBay since 1996 , buying and selling, and, yet, you , working for eBay, and having buying and selling experience, still do not know the answers to questions about eBay policies and have to ask other members of eBay staff! Yep. Itís a huge site and there is a lot to know. I would never claim to know everything about eBay, especially all of the specific details but I do know where to go to find the information. For many of the questions asked here that involve specific details or reasons behind a policy or how a feature works, or that point out issues, or possible bugs, I do need to research and/or verify before creating a response. Don't you think it must be very difficult for new users to find out what eBay really is, when ,even you are still learning how things work on eBay? Yes, I can imagine that it isnít easy for a new user to find all the information she needs. The Help Pages are continually enhanced and more information added to them every day and they are a great resource for all sellers (itís my main resource as well). Is it the difficult user agreement, or the lack of education of all users? I donít know. I will have to research that one!
Posted by bosox24 on Apr 5, 2009 3:12 AM Listing Items with ìIvoryî in the Title Hi Griff - my questions is in regards to the ban on ivory and use of other words such as Tiffany. Many dinner patterns use these words but if they are in the titles of the auction, the listings may be cancelled as the bots pick them up as banned. For example, Tiffany is a girl's name, there are puzzles picturing Tiffany lights, there is a china pattern by Syaracuse China called Old Ivory and many other examples. How can we list these items without being sanctioned? Have you actually had listings for non-ivory items with the word ìIvoryî in the title, removed for violating the policy? If so, email the details to me. Those should not be removed (or blocked).
Posted by tantrumsandtiaras on Apr 5, 2009 6:13 AM VeRO, The DMCA and eBay I would like to know why ebay offers no assistance with an unjustified VERO takedown. I understand now the legality of it, but when the takedown is completely unjustified, the seller has NO recourse. I had one, obviously, by a company KNOWN to abuse the privledge. They do not respond to me. Ebay says to contact them if the VERO member will not respond. I did (by email mind you because Trust and Safety apparently refuses to speak with people know or even offer live help) and was told there is nothing they can do. I understand a place for the VERO program, but am VERY offended that ebay will even tell me they do not even take any time to review the complaint, just remove the listing. I could EVEN handle the removal of the listing, however what I cannot deal with is ebay finding ME guilty as charged and dropping my status after 12 years of not one single problem! And the lack of anyone at ebay willing to SPEAK to a seller is getting completely out of control! Sorry to hear this happened to you. Having a rights owner report and request a takedown of your item when you know that the item is legit is extremely frustrating. Although we (eBay) are not able to provide individual follow up assistance in fighting a takedown request, I agree that we could at least provide more information to sellers impacted by a rights ownerís takedown request. In the meantime, there is information on line on how to fight an unfair takedown request and, if you need assistance on the eBay side, feel free to email me at griff@ebay.com using your regular email (not My Messages). You might also want to read up on the Digital Millennium Copyright Act to better understand the actual federal law itself and how the DMCA requires eBay to provide a program like VeRO (Verified Rights Owners) to facilitate the rights owners demands.
Posted by surlynkid on Apr 5, 2009 6:43 AM Unwelcome International Buyers/Bidders i will not ship internationally. i make this very clear in my auctions. every time, i get international bidders ignoring this. one person won last week, but after some searching, he found a friend in boston to receive the package for him. one ended last night, and he expected me to ship to italy. i give these guys the benefit of the doubt that they have a friend in the US or are coming here to scuba dive and will get it in the US. this last guy had no plan and screwed up my auction. i can't leave negative feedback now. all i can do is cancel the auction and lose my listing fees. i tried NPB, but that makes me wait a week. i want to start over now, not after a week of waiting and a week of investigation. how do i post negative feedback on these people and get my listing fees back? these people are extremely aggravating. You can automatically block buyers in certain areas using a feature called Buyer Requirements, specifically, the Buyer Requirement for ìBlock buyers who are located in countries to which I wonít ship. ì This Buyer Requirement depends on you as the seller, setting your International Shipping options in the Shipping Calculator to your needs. If you donít ship anywhere but within the USA, donít provide an International shipping option. For any existing ended transactions where a buyer outside of the USA has purchased one of your items, send the details to me at griff@ebay.com using your regular email not My Messages.
Posted by flashbacksdiecast on Apr 5, 2009 6:48 AM Cannot Add a New Credit Card to eBay Account Hi Grif... I have a very simple question. How, exactly, can one change their credit card that is used for selling purposes ? We have followed all the instructions we could find, but ebay continues to decline our new card. We have a feedback rating of 100%, for 90 customers that we have sold to in the past, but quit selling for a period of time. Now we want to resume selling, but with the old card no longer around, want to use our new card. We were even locked out for a period of time for trying to get the card through. We are currently using the card with Pay-Pal, with no problems for buying, but ebay still declines it. We are not really computer experts, and have difficulty understanding the jargon sometimes. Please give us a straight-forward answer on how we can resolve our problem...Hate to start all over again from scratch just because we cannot find anyone to talk to that can help us resolve our dilemma. Thank you I have forwarded your post to Customer Support for their attention and action. If they do not contact you within a few days of this posted response, email me at griff@ebay.com using your regular email, not My Messages and I will work on your behalf to resolve the issue.
Posted by katydidscards on Apr 5, 2009 12:41 PM Item Specific Question Hi Griff, Lately I've been making a concerted effort to use Item Specifics in my listings. However, I note that in some categories, I can't be accurate with them due to the lack of options from which to choose. One category in which I sell is Collectibles > Tobacciana > Tobacco Cards. When I try to add an Item Specific about one of those, one of the options is New. But there's no other option! By their very nature, Collectible Tobacco Cards are not New, but Used (some of them are from the 1880s.) But if I don't choose something, the default value eBay applies is New, right? Here's an item # you can check to see what I mean: 150324545275 So what do I do here? None of my items are New. They are all Used, by their very nature. I would happily describe them as such if I could. Is this a bug? If so, would you please pass it along to the appropriate person or group to be addressed? If a seller doesnít select a particular item specific, that field is left blank (eBay doesnít default it to a choice on behalf of the seller). If you check your listing 150324545275, there is no specific listed for ìage.î Through out the coming year, sellers will have more choices in ìtaggingî their items, specifically, with custom tags. Eventually, these custom tags will replace most preset item specifics.
Posted by dtmedin on Apr 5, 2009 12:51 PM Correcting PayPal Shipping Addresses Paypal Shipping is, in my opinion, one of the best efforts eBay has ever made in adding a feature that benefits sellers. I use it all the time. However, the interface to USPS shipment is a boatanchor if there is an error of any sort with the buyer's shipment address. You won't get any hint what the problem is in order to correct it, just that the address is not acceptable. You can spend hours on USPS's Click and Ship site trying to find the correct address format, or even google. Asking the buyer for clarification will usually net "that is my correct shipping address." My question: Why, if the Paypal address is confirmed and generally should be the address that the buyer receives their credit card statement (therefore is a serviceable address), cannot Paypal check the address in advance to see if it can be digested by USPS? This could even be done at time of entry by the user, or in batch in the background. If an error was found, could this not be corrected between the buyer and Paypal in advance of a seller having to deal with the problem? With the pressure on sellers' DSRs for shipping time, delays of any sort are not acceptable, and getting a dud address is a huge time sink. About one in 15 addresses I get are duds of some fashion in Paypal Shipping. Having experienced this issue first hand myself, I know how frustrating this can be. We had a similar question posted earlier in this session (see ìBay and PayPal Buyer Shipping Address Discrepanciesîabove). Our shipping team under the leadership of Rich Matsuura, is working on a solution as we speak.
Posted by djnoble35209 on Apr 5, 2009 4:05 PM Two Popular Questions Dear Griff. 2 quick questions, both of which only require a yes-or-no answer. There is much worry on this board about both subjects and their financial implications. 1 - Is Ebay removing the Auction Selling Format (yes or no) No. 2 - Is Ebay going to make Best Match the ONLY search method (yes or no) No. The answers to these 2 questions will help me decide whether Ebay is worth keeping as a primary selling site or not. I am sure many auction sellers are asking the same questions, both on this board and all over Ebay, but Ebay itself has been mysteriously quiet on these subjects. Sellers need some kind of Ebay guidance to make long-term business plans, and so much of we see and hear offers little assurance of Ebays continued existance as we knew it. It appears that no matter how many times I repeat these answers, there are some who either havenít seen them or donít believe me. (the first case I can help, the second I cannot). The Auction Format is here to stay at eBay. It is not going away. There are no plans to make Best Match the only sort option on eBay. Please be sure to tell as many people as you can. Thanks!
Posted by imperialjapan on Apr 5, 2009 4:05 PM Streamlining UPI Process Please, please, please reduce the amount of days necessary to brush away a Non-Paying 'Buyer'. Now: 8 days to file, 7 days for buyer to respond. 15 days! And then if the buyer doesn't pay, one would have to re-list and hope the next winning bidder will pay promptly. The damage Non-Paying 'Buyers' cause is great. Please help out the sellers here! And another pet peeve--don't allow these 'buyers' to leave any kind of feedback. Please! Two suggestions for which I continue to push. Although I cannot promise anything immediate, there are plans to streamline the UPI process (make it shorter). As for feedback for UPIsÖ I have made my position clear on this and it is something for which I continue to push.
Posted by bonuskid40 on Apr 5, 2009 7:07 PM Our CEO and Communications A quote from an interview with John Donahoe...He said, "Be more direct in communication." He needs to communicate, period. He has never once sent a message through the announcements since he has been CEO. When will he address the customers of this site on the actual site? He has time to do interviews, but not even say "Hi, Merry Christmas, Happy Easter, hope your spring cleaning is going well, and you're selling lots of stuff on eBay." Why will he not address his customers? Griff, I know I've posted this before, and you deleted 2 and answered one with a It's coming soon, wait and see type answer. John Donahoe has time to speak to the press, take time off to reflect and think, take 10 to 12 hour plane rides, but he has no time to even speak to his customers? Come on. I am irked by the seemingly total disregard and lack of respect or even thankfulness. We're sending the guy money and he won't even talk to us? Thanks for the post. I have forwarded it to John for his consideration.
Posted by xcergy on Apr 5, 2009 11:59 PM No Action/Response on a Reported Violation Does the 'report this listing' at the bottom of the view item page work? I have reported the same listing more than once for making offers outside the site. Response from eBay? None, Nada, Zilch. So I wrote to rswhelp@eBay.com asking the same question. Result? Nada, Zilch, no reply. Can I ASSume from this non-response that it is now legal to solicit for sales outside of eBay? No, that would not be wise. And, no, I don't want you, Griff, to look into it for me, I want eBay to do their job without your help. Gee a reply would be nice ... Even if they said GTH then I would know where they stand ... that would at least be communicating Hearing nothing tells me nothing, except that rules are being ignored, and it's ok to put whatever you want in a listing. Believe me, I not asking for anything that I wouldn't be expected to do myself ... and that is my job! It would be nice to see eBay do theirs. Trust & Safety receives about 30,000 to 50,000 emails a day (reports, responses, contacts, appeals, etc). Responding to each report would be impossible. However, if you want to send me the details of the violation, I would be happy to assist.
Posted by nanartchik on Apr 6, 2009 4:01 AM Questions from Self Representing Artist Seller Hi Griff, Okay. I am trying to list more, as per your suggestion. (I still can't afford a store.) I am also publicizing my eBay listings on Facebook. And I have been active on the Art & Artist Discussion Board for years...with most of my recent sales coming from there. Can you find my listings without clicking on the "view listings" next to my id? Here are some keywords: Art Oil Painting Original Orchid Purple Yellow. Just interested to see what happens. Well, when I search on all the keywords at once, I currently return nothing. I also note that currently, you have only two listings up on eBay; this in a category that has over 26,000 listings. Your titles are ART CAT Digital Print Copy Cats by N. Holliday And ART Original OIL Painting Orchid Floral by N Holliday A search on ìartî in this category returns over 26,000 items A search on ìart oil paintingî returns just over 6,000 items A search on ìart oil painting originalî returns just over 4,000 items. A search on ìart oil painting original catsî returns 23 items (none of which are yours since the words ìpaintingî and ìoriginalî are not in the title.) A search on ìart oil painting original orchidî returns 4 items, the first of which is yours. A search on ìhollidayî returns only two items: yours. Now, letís try some others: A search on ìprint catsî returns 34 items. If I sort by Best Match, yours is halfway down the page. No problem at all finding it with a short scroll through the 34 items. A search on ìpainting orchidî returns 21 items. Sorted by Best Match, your item is halfway down the page. Again, easy to find. However, A search on ìpainting floralî returns 251 items. And your item is about halfway through a Best Match sort of this list. And something very important: When you look through this particular list and check the other sellers who are offering items with ìpainting floralî in their titles, nearly all of them have at least 10 current listings, and most have closer to 50 to 100 items. Although they do not all have the words ìpainting floralî in their titles, each of the extra listings provides another ìwindowî into their total listings (or eBay Stores). My point: Sort order (Best Match, Time Ending Soonest, Newly Listed, etc) has little or nothing to do with how available your items are. What really matters are title keywords and quantity of listings within the category, especially in the Art category. In fact, in this category Everything depends one the keywords a buyer uses to find your items and the number of items listed by one seller. In some categories, like Electronics, Home and Garden, Health and Beauty, it is easier to determine what keywords a buyer is most likely to use when searching. In others, like Art, it is not so easy. My advice: List more items. It is the only way you can reasonably compete in this category. Two or three items at a time in this big category will always be disadvantaged by the number of items in the category (and not any single sort order). And if you do list more items, you will find that a Store offers benefits that you donít have now: A central, customized location, a regular newsletter to market your new listings, etc. Of course, I could not recommend a Store if your strategy is to list only a few items at one time. But if you can list more inventory, you will see an increase in at that very least, interest in your art. Another question: I am taking advantage of the Free Listings offered as much as I can...but I am concerned about this: Please note: For sellers listing with any tool other than the latest version of the Sell Your Item form (SYI 3.0) the promotional price will not be shown during the listing process. Instead the discount will be reflected in the "View Account Status" section in My eBay, as well as in your next invoice. I use the Auctiva service exclusively for listing and image hosting, so yes, I am using a "third party" listing service. How can I be sure that I am getting the discount? Check the ìView Account Statusî section of My eBay. If you donít see the discounted insertion fees there, email me at griff@ebay.com using regular email not My Messages. (side note. Auctiva is a great company and they provide really useful products but if you are only listing a few items at a time, why not just go through the SYI page? If I list 10 auctions and then get billed for it, I am not going to be a happy camper. Is there any way to determine that there will not be some loophole or glitch that will result in me NOT getting the free promotional listings? No there isnít. Thatís why I advise checking the Account Status section of My eBay and why, if you donít see the discounts, I provided my email address.
Posted by buyalot! on Apr 6, 2009 8:03 AM Streamlining the Dispute Process > Is it possible for a seller who does not have a tracking number with a delivery scan to lose an Item Not Received claim where, in the dispute, the buyer clearly stated they received the item and changed their mind/buyer's remorse? > It isn't fair to the seller. I cannot provide details at the moment (Lorrie outlined this briefly at Analyst Day) but we (eBay and PayPal) are working making the entire process of INR and SNAD claims more equitable and less confusing for sellers. Why should it take so long to fix this problem? Can't a memo be sent to the human beings deciding INR and SNAD claims at PayPal, to not rule in the buyer's favor in the event of obvious fraud? As if that isn't obvious anyway. And that is the crux of the issue. We have no immediate way to determine if a dispute is ìobvious fraudî on the part of a buyer. You did claim that INR and SNAD claims are decided by humans, not by robots. The delays in changing the process, and the current reliability with which these kind of claims are ruled in favor of the buyer despite clear evidence of fraud, suggest to me that it takes time for PayPal to adjust their robots to solve the problem. Can you explain why the problem of obvious buyer fraud cannot be fixed today? Because until we have enough proof, there is no way we can determine ìobvious fraudî on the part of a buyer. As I posted in the first batch of responses above, a seller who is defrauded by a buyer does have recourse through an appeal and can win the appeal. I hope you will understand why I have a very difficult time believing you when you say that PayPal does not decide claims with robots. There are no robots working at eBay. > Stating "four stars" (which on eBay tacitly implies "four out of five stars" and thus is a direct reference to eBay DSRs) would be tantamount to rating buyer with a DSR-like code. > Begs the question: would 5 star buyer be acceptable? > Yes. Apparently, then, the problem with "4 star buyer" isn't the DSR-like rating, it is the implication that 4 stars is a negative rating, correct? If eBay views "4 star" to be a negative rating, then why aren't buyers informed of this when leaving DSR's on a seller? Because a 4 star rating is not negative. An average of less than 4.1 is however. And, as I have stated repeated over the last year, it takes a significant number of 3, 2 and 1 ratings for an average to drop below 4.1
Posted by angusgeneralstore on Apr 6, 2009 8:22 AM Why A User ID Cannot Be The Same As The Text Before the @ in an Email Address Dear Griff. What is Ebay scared of, what is their fear. I went to update my email address (on my regular seller account), as my ISP changed from alltel to windstream. my username is the same. This is now not allowed to be done, BECAUSE my email address contains my username . example only. currently say it is angusgeneralstore @ alltel.net, and I was just wanting to update from alltel.net to windstream.net Is ebay so afraid that our email address MAY give a clue as to where we, and so many sellers do, sell off-ebay, that we can no longer use it in our email address. No. The reason for this restriction is to help fight fraud on the part of scammers who try to take over member accounts. I contacted powerseller support and they said it is just a security measure. That just appears to be MORE BS, why can't Ebay just come out and be up front and honest with us sellers. Off Ebay Selling Sites are a major threat to Ebay, no matter how minute the clue may be. There are many reasons why Ebay to many sellers, use ebay as an ALTERNATIVE, rather than their MAIN online selling site today. When will they wake up and realize us small sellers just are not stupid and stop treating us like we are. I understand if I leave my email as it is, sort of a grandfathered in kind of deal, i can use my user name in my email address. They also informed me that i will not be able to update and link my paypal address to ebay due to the same "SECURITY MEASURE" Seems to me if Ebay was doing as well as they say they are, they wouldn't be so afraid of the small things such as this. The PowerSeller Support rep was correct. Those who attempt to hijack accounts have had significant success in the past by using a memberís email address with various combinations of popular email providers. The create programs that can compile a list of these in seconds of possible email addresses. (I have a family member whose account was compromised a few years ago for this very reason). By not allowing an account to have a User ID and Email that match, it thwarts the efforts of these scammers and in fact, has helped dramatically reduce the incidence of hijacked accounts.
Posted by artmetal on Apr 6, 2009 9:28 AM Lowering The BIN Price in Current Listing. How do I lower a buy it now price once the auction has started (no bidders yet) Thanks Click the My eBay link on the top of any eBay page. Click the Active link on the left hand column under Selling. Locate your item and scan to the right of the title to the drop down box. Click it and choose, ìRevise Item.î As long as there have been no bids and the item has more than 12 hours to go before closing, you can edit the BIN price.
That almosts catches us up. Tomorrow is a news day at eBay. Be sure to watch the Announcement Board early tomorrow morning. Also, we have a Town Hall on Wednesday at 3:30 and of course, the eBay Radio show tomorrow at 11:00. I will reopen this thread on Thursday late or Friday early and leave it open for the weekend. Thanks again for all your questions! regards, Griff Jim Griffith _____________________ eBay Inc
Update: When I returned home tonight, I discovered that many of the links in this response were not formatted properly and wouldn't work. I have repaired them. (another good example of why it doesn't pay to rush!) Griff


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Re: Ask Griff - April 2009
Apr 11, 2009 08:49 PM

The following post was left out from the first response thread as I was awaiting confirmation on the accuracy of my response. Unfortunately, I left a reference in the last response post (“see the post above to katydidscards”) and there was no post to katydidscards. This is that post:
Posted by katydidscards on Apr 3, 2009 1:37 PM

The Hypothetical SNAD/Buyer Fraud Question

I have a question with regards to buyers who file a SNAD and then return something that is not at all what they were sent. Hypothetical: Buyer purchases a new iPod. Seller ships it out. Buyer emails seller and says "Not new, old and broken." Buyer files SNAD. PayPal tells Seller to refund. Seller says "Send it back for full refund less your shipping." Buyer sends back a rock (to approximate weight of iPod) and keeps the new iPod. Buyer gets a refund from PayPal (he shipped with DC, of course), and gets to keep the iPod. What recourse does seller have in this sort of situation? How can the seller prove that the item that was returned was not the item that was shipped? Must we start video taping things as we pack, and then video as we open packages that are returned? Just curious as to what TPTB think about this sort of scenario. Defrauding an eBay seller in this manner is despicable. Any buyer who would defraud an eBay seller by sending them back something other than what the seller sent them should be shown the door (and worse. Any seller defrauded by a buyer in this manner might want to pursue the matter with the law as it could constitute mail fraud.). The good news: The incidence of this activity is extremely small. The better news: I spent the better part of this week on this particular issue, working with folks at PayPal so I could provide an accurate and helpful response based on what PayPay can and will do for sellers in these circumstances. From PayPal: ------------------ Sellers have the ability to appeal Significantly Not as Described cases that are found in favor of the buyer for the following reasons: •The item was returned in a condition other than the buyer received, ( this does not include normal wear and tear from the return shipping.) •No item is returned (empty box) •The wrong item is returned •PayPal made an error during the initial case closure In order to appeal a Significantly Not as Described case a seller should log into their resolution center and click the “appeal” button: PayPal will generally require the seller to provide documentation to support their appeal (the type and requirements of the documentation will be provided to the seller at the time that their appeal is reviewed for example, an affidavit or police report. [Although it should not be an issue obtaining a police report, from what some sellers have told me, it isn’t always possible. PayPal will always provide, on request during an appeal, the affidavit form for the seller to fill out and have notarized. – Griff] Upon receipt of the supporting documents the case will be facilitated in the order it is received and a PayPal representative will review the case and determine if the appeal should be granted. In some cases the seller may be required to ship the item to PayPal prior to receiving their credit. If an appeal is granted the seller will be reimbursed for the amount of the transaction and the buyer’s account will be documented and reviewed for potential abuse of PayPal’s Policies. Please note that abuse of PayPal’s policies by either a buyer or seller is strictly prohibited. ------------------ If you are a seller who has been defrauded in this manner and you need assistance with your case, email me. I am always happy to help a seller in this situation.


Posted by semrafoster on Apr 3, 2009 4:57 PM

New Seller

Hello Griff, I am very new to selling and there is so much to learn about ebay. I am trying to sell designer clothes and shoes. I have tried buy it now option, I have tried online auction style, I have tried reserve option. However, I cannot seem to attract high bidders. Do you have any advise please? Thank you The first step to selling on eBay is research. Research will help show you which formats work best for your items as well as the current values of sold items and the best starting prices for auction format listings. You can use eBay’s Completed Listings option for Search to view recently closed items matching a keyword search, or you can use a third party certified provider application like Terapeak.com to dig deeper into the data back 90 days. Also, you may find that as a new seller, you may be restricted in the amount of luxury brand items you can list. I advise any new seller who is selling only brand or luxury brand names items to find a second product line to offer to build up a history of selling on eBay in case you do find that you are restricted. If you need further assistance, you might want to visit the following pages: The Answer Center: staffed by expert eBay member volunteer experts in all aspects of eBay, including selling. The Learning Center with online tutorials and other resources. Seller Central (this discussion forum) where there are many experienced and seasoned eBay sellers who can offer general insights and advice on all aspects of selling on eBay as well as other topic specific discussion forums for more specialized discussions. Feel free to email me if you have any questions. griff@ebay.com using your regular email (not My Messages).


Posted by bscheffl2 on Apr 3, 2009 4:59 PM

Leaving Feedback and Ratings

I posted a question about why a buyer was allowed to leave feedback if they never paid for the item. Your reply was to in part, was to repeat the policy. Though I appreciate the response, I know the policy, and my question was about the "why" of the policy. 1) According to eBay's own explanation about why to leave feedback the answer is, "Leaving honest comments gives members a good idea of what to expect when dealing with other members." The key word being honest... How does a non-paying buyer's response about shipping, item meeting description, etc.. help others determine a seller's worthiness? Again, rate shipping... what shipping it? I want to know HOW eBay thinks a buyer rating shipping costs, time, item description, etc., for an item they never paid for and therefore never received, helps other buyers? Viewing the ratings and feedback for a seller helps a buyer better understand the overall service levels for that seller based on what all of their buyers have left in the way of ratings and feedback. That way, a buyer has better expectations beforehand of that seller’s customer service level. The feedback left under these circumstances and all their DSRs are false, could be retaliation, and for lack of a better word is a blatant lie. How does this help buyers? Except that a seller’s ratings are provided as an aggregate, not as individual ratings (feedback comments show individual comments). You supposition is that all feedback and ratings left are “lies,” or “false” or “retaliation.” Since the vast majority of ratings left are 5’s and since the vast majority of feedback left is positive, it would be incorrect for anyone to thing that all feedback or ratings are “lies,” or “false” or “retaliation.” That would mean the that the majority of left feedback and ratings – positive and 5’s – are “lies,” or “false” or “retaliation.” And they are not. It is such a flaw in the system. Why isn't this seen as compromising the integrity of the feedback system... again something that is not supposed to be done according to eBay. Because it isn’t. Ratings are left by buyers for sellers based on the buyers, not the seller’s, experience with the seller and the transaction. And, although it is not perfect (no rating system is), it works. 2) Non-paying buyers have increased since the feedback changes. eBay encourages sellers to file for this with no protection from retaliation as long as the buyer responds to the claim. Not pay for the item, simply respond. Sellers have protection in filed UPI cases. It is not accurate to say they have “no protection.” There are many sellers who will not file because of fear of retaliation because eBay's protection under these circumstances is limited to none. And that is unfortunate (that some sellers won’t file a UPI). A seller with a non-paying buyer needs to file the UPI in order to report the buyer and the transaction to eBay. How does this issue with the current feedback system and non-paying buyers help get non-paying buyers to stop bidding and not paying? By filing a UPI claim, a seller is alerting eBay of a non paying buyer so that we have a record of it. Chronic non paying buyers are suspended from eBay. All sellers know there is no recourse from an untrue feedback received because the seller had the audacity to file a non-payment claim with eBay. If a seller files a UPI claim for a non paying buyer and the buyer doesn’t respond or responds with an insufficient response, the claim is awarded to the seller and the buyer is blocked from leaving feedback. EBay's own policies seem to have created this vicious cycle and it needs to be remedied. I know sellers are sick of non-paying buyers, but isn't eBay? Yes of course. UPI’s cost eBay and sellers time and money. Our goal, as I have stated many times on this thread, is to eliminate, eventually, the possibility of UPIs by changing the transaction model so that all transactions on eBay are paid for upon purchase (like today’s Immediate Payment option for fixed price listings). Couldn't resources be better spent elsewhere? Is there ANY plan to address this issue? I would think money would be a motivating factor here... If you have had a UPI buyer recently that left you negative feedback and the buyer’s reason for not paying was not legitimate, and the buyer left you negative feedback and Trust and Safety would not remove it, email the details to me. 3) You said that eBay does not question the veracity of the feedback left because it would be a daunting task. An example: A buyer claims they never received item, but tracking proves otherwise. How difficult would it be to verify this? That does not seem too daunting. If it is daunting a task to research the claims made about veracity, then doesn't that tell eBay something about the system is wrong??? If the system is a working system it would not be that way. If you suspect the number of claim to be such that it would be daunting... doesn't that elude to a serious issue? It renders the entire feedback system's integrity. Daunting task or not... eBay created the feedback policy and sellers are being crushed by it everyday. EBay should have to deal with the consequences of a policy they developed all in the name of maintaining the integrity of the system. The primary reason that eBay cannot and will not verify the claims made in feedback statements is, as I said earlier, because if we did, we would have to verify all comments left (several million a day) and could be held responsible for these comments. That is why we have never, since the inception of feedback in 1996, ever verified the statements in feedback. That is what every eBay members agrees to upon registering (when they agree to the terms of the eBay User Agreement)


Posted by mtndrifter on Apr 3, 2009 9:40 PM

Shipping Time DSR

Hello Griff, Quite often on the Seller's forum, I read that many sellers are saying that they are being unjustly penalized on their DSR ratings by buyers on their "Shipping time" category. Almost everyone who is taking a hit is saying that they are being graded NOT on how fast they get their package in the mail but on how slowly the post office gets the package to the buyer, especially in cases of Media Mail and Parcel Post. The way the third category of the DSR is currently worded ("Shipping time"), it opens the door for buyers to grade the Post Office instead of the seller. For those sellers who frequently ship by Media or Parcel Post, it does present a problem for them. Wouldn't it be much more practical to change the wording of the "Shipping time" category to something that reflects more closely the time it takes for the seller to get the package in the mail instead of phrasing it as "Shipping time?" To many people, "Shipping time" means the time it takes for the post office to get their package delivered to them. How about instead of "Shipping time", it becomes "Time it takes seller to send package" or "Time it takes seller to get to Post Office with package" or "Speed of seller putting package into the mail" or something to that affect? Anything that conveys how long it takes the seller to get to the post office once they've been paid, instead of how long it takes for the post office to deliver the package after it has been mailed, would be better than the way it is worded now, IMO. I think it would be a very simple change for eBay to make, but I think it would be one that saves millions of misperceptions and headaches that sellers seem to be suffering over "shipping time" that the Post Office takes, which is out of the seller's control. "Shipping time" is the responsibility of the Post Office, not the seller, but it is the seller who is getting judged due to the literal sense in which that particular DSR category is worded. Sorry if I rambled, but I guess I'm just suggesting a simple change in wording for the 3rd DSR category to one that is more reflective of the time it takes the seller to get to the Post Office, not the time it takes the Post Office to get the package to the buyer. Thank you for listening. No secret. I agree. In fact, a better wording might be “time to ship.” It is something I have suggested (and yes, something for which I continue to advocate). I cannot promise it will be adopted but I will continue to advocate for it. However, in the meantime, I can only advise sellers on how to best avoid a low rating in this particular DSR category by setting realistic buyer expectations in their listing descriptions for all the classes of shipping service they offer, including and most importantly, those that tend to take the longest time like Media Mail. Make it very clear in your descriptions, in your invoices to buyers and in all follow-up correspondence.


Posted by locanda on Apr 4, 2009 12:29 AM

Invoice Limitations

Hi Griff, thanks for starting another month of Q&A. I have encountered a different problem in invoicing (not the supposed eBay mailings you've already addressed): I am not always able to re-send an invoice for buyers that can't find the initial invoice I sent. In addition, I recently filed a NPB dispute, and have communicated with a buyer who had unusual family circumstances, and their feedback profile certainly didn't fit a bad buyer that I would wish to leave a strike for. Thus, we've attempted to work it out through the eBay Dispute process, and are probably nearly resolved. However, as it is now over 30 days since the End of auction, eBay says the transaction cannot be re-invoiced. So, the buyer has to pay via PayPal, but can't link up the payment to the eBay item#. I'd like to be able to do this for a couple of reasons - 1 so that my recordkeeping is neater and My eBay shows the sale and its payment, and so that shipping the items can be eligible for PayPal Seller Protection. So, the question(s): Why isn't it easier to re-invoice, and why won't eBay allow this for a longer period (particularly if a dispute is open)? I am not sure why there is a cut off time for invoicing. Seems it would make sense to allow for more time. I will forward this to one of my colleagues for their attention. Can I get any assistance in connecting the payment up to my eBay items in this instance, and regain my SPP? Have you tried sending an invoice from PayPal? Log into PayPal, click Request Money. There are two options. One for Create A Money Request and one for Create an Invoice. Try the Money Request and select “eBay Items.” If you unable to connect the item number to the request, put the item number in the message box of the request. If anything goes wrong with the transaction (it shouldn’t), email me. I will vouch for you.


Posted by zboo2 on Apr 4, 2009 12:37 AM

Accepted Payment Violations Enforcement Progress

Mr. Griff Sir: I would like to give you and/or ebay or both a soft pat on the back for handling the many mentioned before problem with a PS about non conforming acceipted payments in their listings. As of tonight, it appears they, the PS, have changed their listings to be in compliance with ebay rules. Thank You. Thanks! The credit goes to our tireless Trust and Safety team. The question would only be, why did it take so long, at least 45 days after the first reporting? As I posted a few weeks ago in regards to a similar question: There were millions of items that needed to be changed and as we said in January, enforcement would start in January and ramp up over the subsequent months until we had as close to 100% compliance as possible. It takes a lot of time to field, investigate and facilitate the volume of reports we received but I am happy to say, and as you noticed, we are nearly there.


Posted by here_we_have on Apr 4, 2009 3:38 AM

Questions on Feedback

What is ebay's policy/stand on Q. 1) Buyers who leave Negative Feedback concerning an Item Not Received and DO NOT file a dispute/claim for such? A buyer is not required to file an INR report as a condition to leaving any feedback comment. Although we hope that they would, they are not required to do so. Q. 2) Would/Does ebay consider this as malicious bidding/buying??? Not necessarily and not without other supporting evidence. My ducks are all lined up, and I have a reasonable expectation of winning any such claim from buyer. Even though I list/buy here as a hobby, I treat it as a business. It has been about a week since you requested outreach and yet I have not been touched from a member of the T&S team. Resend the email and the details to me and I will reforward it to Trust and Safety. Q. 3) If ebay can associate other member ID's, when shilling is involved, why can't ebay associate my ID's when shilling is not involved? I am not understanding the question. Is there reason that you would want eBay to connect your own ID’s?


Posted by craftygeezerette on Apr 4, 2009 8:19 AM

Leaving Feedback For Buyers

Hi Griff, I still haven't starting listing again as more and more questions arise for me each time I read your posts regarding various sections. This response you gave below was in regards to automatically giving a seller a 5 if he/she offered free shipping. "As I stated in an earlier response to the same question/request, we wouldn't ever automatically award a rating to a seller. We are not the buyer so it would be inappropriate for us to give a rating in place of the buyer. What we could do (and please, I am only speculating here. This is not an announcement) is something along the lines of not providing the buyer an opportunity to rate a seller for transactions where the shipping cost was free but still keep an internal (eBay and seller viewed only) metric in place to tally all successfully-concluded free shipping transactions and use that metric as a factor for discount eligibility, ranking, benefits, rewards, etc... And coincidentally enough, this is actually the type of change for DSR and Free Shipping for which I have been advocating. " This I could understand but isn't eBay really giving a buyer an automatic "5" or postive feedback when you require sellers to leave nothing but postives (5's) for each transaction? Not really. We don’t require sellers to leave feedback. (Sellers cannot leave ratings for buyers). It’s up to a seller to decide if they want to. If a buyer pays for the item, it’s smart business to leave the buyer a feedback to acknowledge the payment. Or the seller can choose to leave no feedback. But sellers cannot “rate” a buyer. That is the part I cannot find that it is fair at all. Sellers are required to leave Positive feedback no matter how the transaction goes with the buyer while the buyers are allowed to give negative or positive feedback and low DSR's just because they want to. Sellers are not required to leave feedback. They can leave a buyer a feedback at their discretion. Guess my question is how is this policy fair to sellers? Don't we deserve to know how a buyer acts during a transaction? Acts? A buyer has one obligation in a transaction: to pay for an item. It is hoped that a buyer will be civil and courteous in their correspondence with a seller and most are but a buyer is not required to be. However, no marketplace allows sellers to rate buyers on their disposition, etc. If a buyer violates policy (doesn't pay for an item or attempts to defraud or extort a seller), the seller can and should report the buyer using this link to the Seller Report Hub which has just been updated btw, so make sure to visit it. There is a mistaken belief among some sellers that leaving negative feedback for buyers was an effective way of determining their past behavior so the seller could block or cancel their bids. It wasn’t. The truth is that since most bidding takes place in the last minutes of an auction format listing, it was virtually impossible to check the feedback for a bidder in time to cancel their bids. And for Fixed Price it was impossible. Sellers can limit bids or purchases based on the criteria provided in Buyer Requirements. They do work. Oh and yes I did sell quite a lot at one time but after the frustrations of non-paying buyers, and the rule changes. I stopped. In fact had I had a better understanding of the coming changes, I may have still been selling but now, well, I am just not sure aobut selling on here anymore. This is my selling id if and when I decide to sell again but right now what incentive do I have to sell where small sellers are being shoved further and further down the selling chain? Buyers and sales. If a seller is not making sales or is not finding buyers visiting their listings, they are always free to email me and I will take a look at their listings and make suggestions.


Posted by guitar_parts_for_you on Apr 4, 2009 9:15 AM

The Invoice Question and The Number of Releases per Year

Hi Griff, Just had this happen, sometimes I will allow a buyer to go a while without paying, so they can get a bunch of items to ship together and save on shipping. Especially if I have had multiple dealings with them in the past. Had one where I couldn't combine their items together on eBay, because 2 of the items were already a month since the auction ended. I wound up having to use a back door and combine it through Blackthorn. Why would eBay make it so I couldn't combine these in the first place through SMP? Especially since it can be done. See my response to locanda above. Another question I have deals with the recent announcement that eBay would limit major changes to (can't remember if it was 3 or 4 times a year). This was a major issue years ago also, and I seem to remember at one eBay live (2005 or 2006) where it was announced that it would be limited to 1 time a year. This held up till JD took the reigns. Please can we go back to that promise of just one time of major changes per year. I know there are a lot of great idea's out there, but having to restructure your business model every couple of months is a real pain. That way also you give the techs a chance to work out the bugs before applying to the site. We cannot limit changes to the site to once a year. However, we can group them together into 2 or 3 a year with a known and consistent process from announcement to release. That is the course we have decided upon for this and future years. This year there will be two releases. The first will be announced sixty days prior to release (this coming Tuesday).


Posted by mygift2u on Apr 4, 2009 9:21 AM

DSR and Suggestions

Griff Thanks for all you do here. It is apparent to eveyone that DSR's are here to stay no matter what the Community thinks about them. Not true. They are here for now (and for the year) but I have continually made mention (and it is no secret) that a new reputation system is in the design phase and could see a launch next year. But for now, DSRs are here and we have to work with them. However, why can't they be revised so they would be more representative of the "OVERALL" transaction? By picking apart the "overall transaction" it is almost impossible to obtain a perfect rating. I do believe the majority of eBay sellers are good and honest and DO try for perfection. That being said... MY Question Is: Wouldn't a system with single rating for a customer's "overall" experience of the transaction be better than breaking it down into multiple ratings? Customers can still leave comments such as "slow shipping", etc. in the comments area. Perhaps. A single rating system could be a part of a future reputation system. I feel more buyers would take time to leave feedback if the rating system was simplier. I am getting very few of my customers to leave feedback since the DSR system when into effect. Yes, simpler is always better. A new reputation system should be simpler. I feel a SINGLE RATING system would benefit sellers while still allowing buyers to grade the transaction. For example: How would you rate your overall transaction with this Seller? Positive Feedback: 5 or 4 stars Neutral Feedback: 3 stars Negative Feedback: 2 or 1 stars We all know that on the other major venue, a transaction is graded on the OVERALL experience and not on indivudual aspects of the transaction like Communication, Description, Shipping Time, Shipping and Handling Charges. Customers KNOW what the shipping costs are before making a purchase. Why should a seller be graded on that? The shipping date is usually on the postage label, so a buyer KNOWS when the package was shipped. Why should we be graded if the post office mis-directs the package or is slow because of a postal holiday or just postal error?? Thoughts? Not many in disagreement with your suggestions overall. A simple rating system would be a plus. As I said, nothing major in the way of changes will happen this year.


Posted by mygift2u on Apr 4, 2009 9:24 AM

Major Announcement

One more question are we getting closer to the "major announcement?" and when will it be? days? weeks? or months? Days. As we announced at the last Town Hall, from here on, we will be grouping releases and changes to features and policies into two or three releases per year (two this year) and announcing them in detail sixty days prior to release. Watch the Announcement Board on Tuesday morning.


More responses on Monday. Note: If I didn't include your question in a response post and the original question post is still visible (hasn't been deleted), it means I am waiting for needed information from either an individual or team here at eBay or PayPal before I can create a response.


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Re: Ask Griff - April 2009
Apr 10, 2009 08:10 PM
Hello all, Thanks for your patience. It's been a very busy week here preparing for Tuesday's announcements. I will post responses in four separate posts over the weekend. Here is the first.
Posted by foggy16 on Apr 3, 2009 12:20 PM

Vintage Clothing Categories Dilema

Hi Griff. I and a lot of sellers in my category feel like a people without a land here on Ebay. Let me state that I have been overall pleased with the changes over the last year. I sell in the vintage clothing and accessories category. The problem is while we are lumped into the clothing category when changes happen. We are actually a half-breed of antiques and collectibles/clothing. Many times what is good for the clothing sellers does not apply to us. A couple of examples is the higher final value fee on the clothing category. I understand the reasons that this is for the clothes (I sell new clothes as well and do not have a problem with it on those items) but for vintage clothes it makes no sense. Also I strongly feel that we should have been included in the free additional picture rate change that was recently given to the antique and collectibles category. The truth is the entire clothing category would have benefited but used and antique items even more so. Most Clothing sites offer multiple views of shoe and clothing. I guess my question is can we get some reconsideration for the vintage clothing category when making changes by category since our needs do not really match the needs or our title category. Vintage Clothing and Accessories, though often worn, are viewed by many sellers and buyers as primarily, collectible. Yes, I would be happy to forward this suggestion to the category team for their consideration.


Posted by ozzie3 on Apr 3, 2009 1:12 PM

Shipping vs Deliver Time Expectations

I guess I qualify as a seller, don't I? If you sell on eBay, yes, you qualify. Is this a correct statement? ""When rating sellers on shipping time, rate the seller on the time it took them to mail the item, not the time it took you to receive the item. You shouldn’t hold sellers responsible for delays in mail services, international custom delays or for the time it took for your payment to clear. " Yes, it is. Didn't you previously state that the buyer should rate on the time of delivery? or am I in error Yes, I am afraid I did infer that. I am sorry. I should have been clearer. Although we do encourage buyers, when they are considering a rating for “shipping time,” to rate the seller on how long it took for them to ship the item, many buyers will rate a seller on Delivery time (some, not all, but some buyers hold a merchant responsible for every aspect of a mail order or online transaction up to the delivery of the item. This topic has been discussed here and among sellers for a while and the consensus seems to be that it might be better to word this aspect of DSRs as “Time to ship” as opposed to “Shipping Time.” (and, for what it’s worth, I agree). I’ll ask again about this as a possible change. Something many of you might have noticed is the push to provide tracking input fields in My eBay. The overall goal here is to make it possible in the future for tracking information to be added automatically into My eBay (for buyers and sellers) as an official indication of when an item has shipped. Besides providing this information for buyer and seller, this feature could also allow in say, a future version of a reputation system, for the removal of rating a seller on any aspect of time and shipping. For example, if a seller states they ship within two business days after the item closes and tracking proves that the seller did indeed ship within two business days, there would be no need for buyer input on this aspect of service.


Posted by three_rivers_traders on Apr 3, 2009 1:20 PM

eBay and PayPal Buyer Shipping Address Discrepancies

Hi Griff! A question about addresses. Specifically eBay addresses for shipping and PayPal addresses for shipping. Since eBay and PayPal seem to be sharing information such as buyer's notes, ect. Would it be possible to do a comparison between the address eBay has on file for a buyer and the address PayPal has for the buyer? Perhaps some sort of indication that the addresses are different? Hopefully this would help stop many of the "I moved and forgot to change my address" and "I mis-typed my address" issues that occur. Thanks! Rich Matsuura and his team (the work on all things "shipping") are working on a solution at the moment. No details yet but I will bring more when we have it.


Posted by buriedbybooks on Apr 3, 2009 1:31 PM

Minimum Price for Fixed Price: More Questions

Last month, you answered a question about BIN minimum pricing. Do those rules apply ONLY to Fixed Price core listings or are multiple quantity store inventory listings (which also use BIN) allowed to have a .99 price? I tested this again to verify and the .99 minimum for MQFP currently applies only to only Fixed Price non-Store listings (Store listings, regardless of quantity, must be priced at $1 or more). Can you please point to an eBay policy or fee page where this distinction is officially explained? I cannot. More to follow.... Because I have found 2 references to minimum pricing: one from the original introduction in February of 2008 and another more recent one. Neither page makes any exceptions for multiple quantity. 2008 fees Starting Price: Fixed Price, Store Inventory, and Buy It Now The "N/A" in the charts above reflects a new minimum start price for Fixed Price listings, Store Inventory listings and the Buy It Now feature. Store Inventory and Fixed Price listings must have a starting price of at least $1.00. The Buy It Now feature, which can be added to Auction-style listings, must also have a minimum Buy It Now price of at least $1.00. Current Fees Fixed Price listings and the Buy It Now feature have a minimum price of $1.00. Is this a new rule to accommodate the half.com listings coming next month? No. In fact, as it turns out, the discrepancy is an oversight. I wasn't aware of it until it was brought up here. I sent the the screen shots I published last week here, to Brian Hsu last week for his take regarding this apparent discrepancy in minimum amounts. I assumed it was intentional. He was out of the office on business for several days but did respond this morning and he verified that it is not an intentional feature change. It’s an error on our part. The inconsistency will be addressed ASAP so that the $1 minimum for Fixed Price covers all FP listing and not just SQFP (Single Quantity Fixed Price)


Posted by postcardsnstuff on Apr 3, 2009 1:47 PM

”Handling” Instead of “Shipping” Time

Since eBay states on their Help Pages under "Detailed Seller Ratings" that: "When rating sellers on shipping time, rate the seller on the time it took them to mail the item, not the time it took you to receive the item. You shouldn’t hold sellers responsible for delays in mail services, international custom delays or for the time it took for your payment to clear." Would it not be more appropriate to call this rating "Handling Time" (or something more appropriate) to stop all the confusion and anger. Shipping Time is obviously not the correct name for a rating about the sellers Handling time. Buyers won't all read the meaning of the rating, therefore the title of the rating is extremely important. See my response to ozzie3 above (question posted on Apr 3, 2009 1:12 PM with the response titled “Shipping vs Deliver Time Expectations.”)


Posted by steady2304 on Apr 3, 2009 2:10 PM

Shipping DSRs and Media Mail

I really have a problem with eBay using the DSR's to determine how a seller is ranked in search. Overall my DSR's are good. 5.0, 4.9, 4.9, 4.9. But being a small volume seller (10-15) sales a month, getting just 1 rating below a 3 can be harmful to my 30 day DSR search standing. In February a buyer paid for her auction on 2/17. I dropped off package at my Post Office on 2/18. It left the sorting center in MO on 2/20. It arrived at the buyers sorting center in CA on 2/25. From there the next scan had it show up at a sorting center in NJ on 2/28. (The wonderful USPS). It then was sent back to CA and arrrived on 3/4 and was delivered to my customer on 3/5. Granted this was shipped media mail, but with Ebays limit on shipping charges in the Media category, even if your offer upgraded shipping choices buyers choose the cheapest shipping 95% of the time, yet still want the fastest delivery possible. While this was happening I kept my buyer informed not only by Ebay email but also had USPS sending updates via there website to her email. For all this effort she leaves me with a 5 for IAD, a 4 for Comm. a 2 for ship time, and a 2 for ship and handling. Not once did she return or answer any email updates I sent her. This in turn lowered my search standing from raised to standard. There has to be a better way for Ebay to rank sellers for search than by using an arbitrary rating system that can affect a small time seller in this fashion. It is really frustrating when a buyer( in this instance a relative newbie) can damage a sellers rating in this way. I now it only afects the standing for 30 days but it still is not right. Although it is true that a seller with a relatively low sales volume can see a lowering of the their search standard in Seller Dashboard in a case like this, the actual drop in search would be minimal and temporary, however. Remember that there are multiple factors that, taken together, determine standing in Best Match including relevance, past sales, shipping costs, item price, etc. With low volumes, a dip in any of these values can adversely affect them. However, given all that you did for the buyer, including sending them USPS updates, your frustration is not surprising. One question: do you point out in your descriptions that Media Mail can take from 2 – 3 weeks (or longer)? Setting buyer expectations in this instance can help reduce the chance the buyer will rate you lower.


Posted by ozzie3 on Apr 3, 2009 2:26 PM

Wrong Time Showing For eBay Radio Ask Griff Show

Griff, on the right side of this page it shows you on the air at 5PM, and when I went to the show at 5 it said you were on at 3-5 instead of 5-7. Is that a change that should have been noticed to the boards, or at least on the side of the page. Yikes! The show is still from 3-5pm Pacific. I will have someone fix that ASAP. Thanks for pointing it out!


Posted by m1goblu on Apr 3, 2009 2:51 PM 

Invoice Limits 
 Griff, Thx for taking the time to do this. My issue is , every week when my auctions end I have buyers who win more than 40 items. However the invoicing system will only handle 40 items. So I have to send 2 or more invoices. In one case 2 weeks ago I had to send 4 to one buyer that won 123 items. Of course this causes me to get separate Paypal payments from the same buyer , which causes me to have to ship several parcels to the same address so I have delivery confirmation for EACH payment. Why cant an enterprise as large as ebay just put all of one persons auction wins on one page, in one invoice , no matter how many they win. The way it is now its a HUGE pain & cause me to spend extra postage, which comes out of my pocket . Good question. I don’t know why there is a 40 item limit (I confess I didn’t know there was a limit) However, I will definitely forward your post to my colleague Kristina Klausen for her consideration (She leads the team that helps improve existing eBay tools, work flows and policies to reduce and eliminate inefficiencies.
Posted by vedave on Apr 3, 2009 2:53 PM

Free Shipping and a Five

A couple of followups here. Is it really true that you and ebay believe it makes no sense, and can never be done, to give free shipping an automatic 5? Correct. We cannot (and will not) give out automatic ratings in place of a buyer’s rating. What I have said previously here (and I will repeat) is that it is possible that we might remove the ability to rate a transaction on shipping costs if the shipping was indeed, cost-less (free). This could provide a null value for the rating (it wouldn’t count in the average. But an automatic rating in place of a buyer’s rating would not be possible. Ratings are not for eBay to leave, they are for your buyers to leave. I have to followup because that would just defy all logic. Also, you commented on Replicas in the coin/pm category, but mentioned looking at the collectibles category. Coins/PM is its own separate category. I wish you could review it and try to recommend to management that NO replicas be allowed in the U.S. coins/PM category. That crap is not US Coins/PM. This also defies all the logic the coin sellers can muster. You don't seem to think it's a problem, but you must understand that sellers and buyers are vacating. The hardest thing to understand is why it would take more than 24 hours to correct either of these problems. Dave We can create a category for legal coin replicas and we can take reports of Miscategorized items and move them as appropriate but since we cannot rule on what is and isn’t a replica coin (we are not the experts, we don’t hire item experts and we don’t handle the merchandise so even if we did have item experts, they couldn’t rule on items they didn’t actually handle) we can only rely on reports from other members and even then, it can take 24 hours or longer to move items into the appropriate categories.


Posted by from-my-grannys-base on Apr 3, 2009 2:58 PM

TurboLister Issues Solved

Just a thank you for the assistance you managed to call up for me from the turbolister team concerning the synchronization problems and the problems with it. It was much appreciated. Pass on my thanks again to the guys working on turbolister. Stew Will do! Glad they were able to help address the issues. We are compiling the case as documentation for other sellers who may experience the same issue.


Posted by buriedbybooks on Apr 3, 2009 3:11 PM

New Ask Griff Rule: No Posting IDs

Starting this month, please only post using an active eBay selling ID. Posts using what is clearly a posting ID - an ID created solely for posting - will be deleted without response. Griff, can you explain why you feel this new rule is necessary? And why it wasn't set-out via font or color so that posters familiar with your threads would know a rule had been added or changed? I would be happy to. First, I didn’t bold this new rule because I trust that everyone scours that first post to look for any changes and, as I have discovered in the last few days, my trust was well founded. (It hasn’t gone unnoticed!) Thus, it didn’t need emphasis. As for the reason for the new rule: Most regular posters – like you - here and on other threads as well, post with the same ID they use to sell. That is admirable. Others fear that their words or comments might draw the ire of others who would then interfere with their listings so they use a different account for posting. Now, I know that the “posting id” culture has a long, established tradition on eBay (and there are no plans to prevent anyone from posting on the rest of the discussion forums using a “posting id”) but this thread is different. It is meant to be for questions from sellers, (new and experienced) in a public forum where I provide responses. An allowed ID for this thread doesn’t have to be an ID with current listings for sale. Feedback showing past sales is sufficient. The ID can also be a selling ID for which the seller also uses to buy on eBay. However, it is only fair to posters like yourself, that anyone who posts here do so with an ID they use for selling. So any posts from an ID where the feedback is private or only shows buying activity, will be deleted. If you want to post on this thread, do so with an ID that shows a clear history of selling, current or past.


Posted by guitar_parts_for_you on Apr 3, 2009 3:31 PM

Insurance Claims and Buyer Disputes

Hi Griff, This may get a little long winded so I apologize in advance for that. I Had a customer that purchased an item back on the 2nd of March. They emailed me a week ago that they never received. Checked the tracking and it shows delivered on the 5th. First I don't doubt the buyer as this is just a $3 item, and a more expensive item I shipped to them 2 days later arrived just fine on the 6th. So I told them there is a chance that insurance would cover it, just email me before the 45 day time limit is up, and I would start an insurance claim. So I open my email today to a PayPal dispute, for non delivery. Well first PayPal deserves a round of applause, as soon as I entered the tracking information, the claim was over. But eBay on the other hand, advised the buyer to file a PayPal claim. Why, when eBay has the tracking number (Uploaded by Blackthorn from Endicia when the item is shipped) and could have checked and saw that it showed delivered. They could have seen that PayPal wouldn't be able to do a non delivery claim. IMO shouldn't they recommend that the buyer gets in touch with the seller and helps with the claims process? Shouldn't that be a requirement for any claim of lost or damaged in the mail? Before I address your question, I have a question for you. This buyer purchased more than one item from you. One arrives (the expensive one luckily) and the other doesn’t. This buyer looks to be a good, possible repeat customer in the future. Why would you make the buyer wait for an insurance claim on a $3 purchase? Wouldn’t it be smarter business to simply offer to refund the buyer, if not immediately, then in a few days? If the item goes missing, then you can file for the insurance. Making a buyer wait for 45 days to file the insurance claim and then another possible 6 weeks for the claim to process seems counter-productive? Under the circumstances, is it really surprising that the buyer filed the dispute? I have advised this before and will continue to do so: in cases where an insured item has either gone missing or was damaged in transit, don’t make the buyer wait for the insurance claim. Refund them immediately and, if necessary, file the claim to recoup (hopefully) your loss. As to the question – requiring a buyer to assist with an insurance claim in order to file a dispute or receive a refund, we do not require a buyer to do so and there are no plans to require them to do so in the future.


Posted by sewyouthink1 on Apr 3, 2009 3:48 PM

Cannot Call eBay

Why can't I get anyone to talk to me when I try to call ebay; I have a silver seller account and all I can get is a recording that is of no help at all. What is going on? What happened to live help? I forwarded your post to PowerSeller support for their attention. If they have not reached out to you (email or phone), email me and let me know at griff@ebay.com using your regular email, not My Messages.


Posted by foggy16 on Apr 3, 2009 3:56 PM

Seller Protection and Charge

Hi Griff Another question If I am qualified for paypal seller protection on an unauthorized use chargeback, then why should ebay hold my money the entire time they fight the chargeback. Long and short it does not matter if they win or lose they still have to give my money back so why should they hold the funds for the 30 day investigation. I read how the dispute works but it does not make any sense. Why would they not make the determination that I am covered by seller protection and immediately release my money. I am not absolutely sure why. I think the challenge is that we often don’t know right off, if a seller qualifies – they have to provide proof of shipping (or maybe some other info) and usually the seller hasn’t submitted that in advance of the chargeback being received.  So we can’t protect them on the presumption that they will be eligible. But you are right. The process could probably be sped up. I’ve sent this to PayPal for their attention.


Posted by djnoble35209 on Apr 3, 2009 3:56 PM

UPIs and Feedback

Dear Griff, I have a few non-rhetorical questions plus reasonable solutions and I will keep them short -- 1 - Why can a non-paying bidder leave feedback AT ALL? This is a question many sellers would like a good answer for. As I have stated many times in the last three months: We believe there are scenarios where a buyer should not pay for an item and should be able to leave feedback, for example, if the seller changes the terms of the listing post sale. However, I have also stated that personally, I believe that we should not allow feedback for items where the buyer did not pay, for whatever reason. That is the position I advocate. Reasonable solution - As Paypal is THE required form of payment, AND Ebay knows the instant an item is paid for, THEN Ebays codemasters can put a line of code blocking feedback ability UNTIL item is paid for. Very easy programming task. But PayPal is not the required form of payment. There are five accepted forms of online payment on eBay. View the Accepted Payments Policy. Your solution therefore would not work. 2 - adding to katydidscards post - what protection is there for sellers who refund just to receive a rock, a peice of wood or a fake purse in place of an expensive original. Are we supposed to only open returns in front of a postal, UPS or FEDEX inspector? Otherwise there is no proof of what was done to a seller. POOF! Another seller leaves Ebay sadder and poorer. There are so many fraudulent returns happening now that many sellers refuse to list expensive items, just adding to the 'flea market' atmosphere that Ebay management hates so much. See my response to katydidscards above, Reasonable solution - require buyer to present open package to postal/delivery company for item verification BEFORE sealing, and a packaging label be affixed, by postal/UPS/Fedex employee to the outside of package detailing contents, be it a real camera or a peice of cement. That would cut way down on fraudulent returns, and an honest returner would be fine with doing that to insure they get a refund. You're asking eBay to require USPS, UPS or FedEx reps to verify the contents of a parcel before they accept it for shipment by creating a special form for pasting on the outside of parcels that are purchased in an eBay transaction with the clerk verifying the contents of the parcel. We cannot require USPS, UPS or FedEx to comply with anything, especially something as onerous as this suggestion, so as a solution, it would not be remotely feasible. 3 - As I understand the original quote from Ebay management regardling unleveling the feedback system, the reason was that 'the buyers were fussing' about getting negged for non-payment. Some people even mention 'retaliatory feedback'. Now all buyers are 'perfect' even when so many are not even close. And the 3-NPB-strikes rule does no good to the first two sellers who lose time and money on someone who does not intend to pay. Unfortunately, there is no way to know like there was a year ago. There was “no way to know” even before the feedback changes. 1.Most bidding takes place in the last moments of an auction format listing. It would be nearly impossible for a seller to view every last minute buyer’s feedback to determine their “worthiness” based on what past seller’s wrote about them and then cancel their bids. And for Fixed Price, it is absolutely impossible. 2.Since we don’t verify the claims made in a feedback comment, it was not possible for a seller to determine with any accuracy if a buyer was or wasn’t a chronic NPB based only on left comments. Reasonable solution - allow sellers to leave negative feedback ONLY for nonpayment and then ONLY after following the requirements of the NPB process. Ebays codemasters would find this an easy task, as again Ebay knows instantly when an item has been paid for (see reasonable solution #1 above) and when it has not, and also knows when an NPB report has been filed and what stage it is at. Whenever there is even the slightest possibility that a suggestion or posited solution could be adopted, I state as much. However, I would be doing you and anyone else who suggests that we allow sellers to “rate” buyers a grave disservice if I lead you to believe that this is a possibility. It is not. eBay will not return to a system that rates buyers. What you can do now: Use Buyer Requirements to filter out possible chronic non paying buyers and limit your listings to only those who have PayPal accounts. File UPI reports for all non paying buyers. What we can do now: Based on your filed reports, suspend chronic non paying buyers. What we will do in the future: Eliminate the possibility of UPIs by providing an immediate payment option for all formats.


Posted by art_of_painting on Apr 3, 2009 4:30 PM

eBay TV Ads ?

Hello Griff !! First, I want to thank you for the time and effort you have put into reading and responding to these issues/questions. I noticed Ebay has not advertised on Television for a long period of time, they seem to be doing banners ads and direct marketing. Are they planning to do any new catchy ads as they have in the past. When Ebay has done TV ads, I have had a spike in sales during those times. There are no immediate plans for a major TV ad campaign. We have decided to focus on other strategic marketing initiatives for the immediate future. Also, have they thought of doing some more exciting promotions, in other words get some excitement going? For example: * New Car Sweepstakes, always a popular item. Car companies are loaded with ones they cannot sell * Money give away, can't tell you how that would go over, I know Ebay has done money, but I only ever seen it on the page after sign in- Get some excitement going!! We sell they items, Ebay gives away the money, make a fun TV ad. •Contest for best advertisement video or idea from Ebay member that is used. Tie it in with buying etc. You may need a little faith on that one. Yes. In fact, there are many promotions planned for the year. Here are two current promotions recently announced and launched: eBay Bucks (in Beta) Celebrating our Seller’s Success (Monthly Contest with a $5,000 prize every month) My point is, the economy is challenged, you would have everyones attention for a BIG Promotion that is of a Positive Influence. I know you said there are No blackouts on Ebay. Problem is, my sales and questions come in as clumps, and then nothing. People cannot be just seeing my things at one time, unless it is designed that way, revolving servers or something. Is this a design of how Ebay works or their capacity? I have been on Ebay for 12+ years and am familiar with how it has changed with my sales. There are no revolving servers and there are no rolling blackouts on eBay. Items that are listed on eBay are available to everyone, everywhere at the same time. Thanks again for taking the time!! My pleasure.


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Re: Ask Griff - April 2009
Apr 6, 2009 09:35 AM
Thank you everyone for your posts over the weekend. I will now close the thread temporarily to create a response thread (this will take a day or so). In the meantime, while the thread is closed, if you have a question that you would like to have posted on this thread, send it to me as an email to griff@ebay.com (regular email, not My Messages!) with the words Ask Griff Thread in the subject line and your User ID in the body of the response. I will include it in the next post. regards, Griff Jim Griffith _____________ eBay Inc


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