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Need help with color identification

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peetah (833

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Jul 17, 2012 08:05 PM

I am trying to discern "brown" from "reddish brown". Since those are the colors Scott uses, I was wondering if any collector might be able to give a a Scott number to any common US stamp(s) that might have the color "reddish brown". It is the reddish brown I am looking for.

See South Africa Scott 40 and 41 where it places greater value on the reddish brown #40

Yet in SG the greater value is placed on the brown SG 46 and 46c refers to "Brown (shades)".

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billsey (1806

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Re: Need help with color identification

Jul 17, 2012 09:20 PM

Unfortunately what you will find is that the colors Scott uses are not consistent from country to country, or even from set to set within the country. Color names are provided by whomever writes them up first and seldom changed thereafter even when the colors obviously don't match other examples with that color. ?:|

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Jul 18, 2012 06:09 AM

This may also help :

http://s255.photobucket.com/albums/hh134/cobbie10/?action=view&current=browns.jpg

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Jul 18, 2012 09:39 AM

Thanks, billsey that's just what I didn't want to read. groan :_| You sure put it succintly.

cobbie10 I have the same SG stamp colour key. But, since it was Scott describing the colors I thought it best, since Scott doesn't provide a color chart (that I know of) to find a common stamp(s) that Scott described as reddish brown.

With billsey's comment in mind even that might not be reliable. I guess I'll put it into the "to do" (someday) pile, for now.

Thank you both..........

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Re: Need help with color identification

Jul 18, 2012 10:59 AM

Peetah

This site also gives pretty good images as to shades, especially on early stamps from the US. It may be helpful as to where Scott references their different shades.

http://www.theswedishtiger.com/28b-scotts.html

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Jul 18, 2012 11:46 AM

this is what you need----http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq358/stamp12345/southafricareddishbrownscan.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

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Jul 18, 2012 12:50 PM

Peetah,

if you check the Gibbons notes about the 4d. it says after s.g. 49b that

s.g. 46 Brown, The Scroll is in solid colour

s.g. 46c. Brown (shades) The Scroll is in white with a crooked line running through it.

p.s. unless the item is in a horizontal bilingual pair, they are valued at 20% to 35%. I don't know if Scott's mentions it.

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Jul 18, 2012 07:41 PM

In my 2003 Scott the reddish brown (1932) pair catalogs for $150 * and $125 o with no specified bump for **. Singles are $15 and $10. The brown pair (1936) catalogs for $4.00 and $3.50 with singles at $0.40 and $0.20. So singles are hit even more than you suggest... At least in Scott.

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Jul 18, 2012 07:51 PM

Billsey,

Gibbons actually cats. them as used singles

s.g. 46 upright watermark, Pounds 6.50 against Pounds 140 for a bilingual pair.

s.g. 46aw, inverted watermark, 40p. against Pounds 32 for a bilingual pair.

s.g. 46c. upright watermark, 10p. against Pounds 2.75

s.g. 46cw inverted watermark, 10p. against Pounds 9.75

David B.

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Re: Need help with color identification

Jul 18, 2012 07:57 PM

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The scroll issue is seperate than the color variety--------for those to understand the scrolls here is a example .-

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Jul 18, 2012 08:13 PM

Scott has notes for the set. They state: 4p. On Nos. 40-41 the background in upper corners is solid. On No. 28 it consists of of horizontal and vertical lines. No. 41 has pretzel-shaped scroll endings at bottom. On No. 40 these scroll endings enclose a solid mass of color.

It looks to me like Paul showed what could be all three types, although I didn't see a real color difference between #40 and #41.

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peetah (833

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Jul 18, 2012 08:45 PM

stamps12345 my 4d. scrolls look like the bottom stamp. What cat # do you make it? Scott and/or SG

And thanks........

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Re: Need help with color identification

Jul 18, 2012 08:52 PM

scott 41 or S.G. 46c

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