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Member Workshop: Listing Template Design & Layout Clinic - Sept 18

Sep 18, 2006 10:29 AM
I'm Debbie Levitt, President of As Was, eBay's first Certified Service Provider. We specialize in helping eBay sellers start and grow their businesses through marketing and operations management services such as custom and unique listing templates and eBay Stores, personalized listing strategies, training and instruction, and design of printed marketing materials.

Today, we'll be looking at some tips about listing design and layout. Then, as time allows, you may post one listing for me to review. We're strictly looking at the listing's look, and what changes could be made to try to improve your business. If you are looking for information on research or product sourcing, please click here.



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Member Workshop: Listing Template Design & Layout Clinic - Sept 18

Sep 18, 2006 10:29 AM
Tip 1 is to remember to use colors that compliment each other. How many times have you seen orange on bright blue? Dark blue on black? Yellow on white? This is when I say that someone stumbled upon enough HTML to be dangerous! :) The most important thing is to know that shoppers with different types of screens are likely to be able to read your listing. That means that random text in red or sentences that abuse HTML font color capability are more likely to make you look like an amateur than a solid pro.

Sometimes I'm asked if I know which is better: dark colors on a light background or light colored text on a dark background. I don't know of any studies on that. I can only report that we try both for our clients' templates, and both seem to work equally. A great resource that I found is the "Colour Contrast Analyser" here. You'll need to know the hexadecimal code for your colors (this is in your HTML). So if I'm thinking about writing in pink (color #FFCCFF) on white (color #FFFFFF), the analyzer will tell me that there is not enough contrast.



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Get rid of anything in your template that might be a distraction. No animated jumping bunnies unless you sell animated jumping bunnies, and you're showing a sample! When thinking about adding music or animation, ask yourself if it really enhances the user's experience. The same is true for clip art. Let's not spend the shopper's time loading images that are neither of your iem for sale nor are they of anything that enhances the shopping experience.

What's the star of the show? What's the most important thing that you want your shopper to do? The star is your item for sale, and we want your shopper to become a buyer! Anything in your design or look that works against that can hurt your sales. Examples of these things can include:
  • Flash "galleries" - why show people other items they might want before they've seen this item and decided? Move any galleries to the bottom of your listing so that your item can be the star of the show!
  • Credits and links that take people away from your item. You can (and should) give credit to companies and software but at the bottom. There is no reason to show these toward the top as the implication is that THIS is the most important thing here... and it's not! We can tell everybody later that you used TurboLister. :) Plug your About Me page later. Let's get some buyers!
  • Very busy templates with a lot of patterns or images relating to other items can be confusing and distracting. We want you to stand out in a GOOD way. :)



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    Member Workshop: Listing Template Design & Layout Clinic - Sept 18

    Sep 18, 2006 10:30 AM
    Edit your text and policies for nice. A search for "please don't bid" in all titles and descriptions revealed over 140,000 items. Why so grumpy? I'd like to see the following phrases go extinct (copied and pasted from real listings, so the bad spellings/grammar are real too!):
  • "Please dont bid unless you are serious about the item...."
  • "If you do not agree with the shipping costs, please DO NOT bid!"
  • "If you can’t afford it please don’t bid. I really don't have time for dead beats."
  • "the buyer has 14 days to complete, this is due to time wasters."
  • "PLEASE READ ALL INFORMATION BEFORE BIDDING (ESPECIALLY SHIPPING & PAYMENT OPTIONS)!!!"
  • "I hate to leave negative feedback but I will do so if necessary."

    Has bossing people around before they became your customer saved you from problems? Probably not. Do you think this makes you look like a more trustworthy seller? People on eBay are basically good, and problems should be minimal to rare if you're also doing the right things. Let's treat your shopper with courtesy and respect. Let's treat shoppers like they're great people rather than like they are out to get you. Stop yelling at people; get rid of all those capital letters, and get rid of anything that seems like some sort of threat.



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    Member Workshop: Listing Template Design & Layout Clinic - Sept 18

    Sep 18, 2006 10:30 AM
    How much text is too much? It can be hard to find the balance. You want to make sure you are giving people the information they need about your item. If you don't, then you could be losing sales or killing momentum as people have to stop, email you, and hope you write back before they get tired of waiting. If you have an overwhelming amount of text, I tend to think that you could lose business from people who think like this, "I don't want to read all of this! I'm not going to. Well, wait. I have no idea what policies I might be agreeing to if I just buy this without reading all of this. So I just won't buy this so that I don't have to worry that I missed some point that the seller will tell me was in his listing. I'll buy from someone else."

    Someone once emailed me asking what I thought of his listings. Among other things, I said that he had too much information, and it was arranged out of the order that people would want to read it. He seemed surprised. He thought that people were interested in all of that, and he might lose sales if he didn't tell them all of that. He later wrote me to say he had run "the wife test," where he showed a listing to his wife. He was surprised to find that she didn't want to read any of it. She just looked at the pictures and read a tiny bit about what this was.

    Your shoppers are probably similar. Think about what's going to hold their attention and what they don't need to see. They don't need you to dump some of your feedback comments into the listing. You're only going to dump positive ones, so it's like telling a potential employer to go ask your parent or spouse how nice you are. :) Are your policies written to be clear and concise? Could you say that using half the words and still be clear? Try it! Run a "wife test" of your own. Show a friend or loved one your listing, and then ask them:

    • What are the first and second things your eyes were drawn to?
    • How much of my description and policies did you read?
    • How did you feel after reviewing the item?
    • Did you feel like you knew what you'd be getting and when you'd get it?
    • Did you feel like you could trust me and you wanted to buy?

    Ask a few people and see what they say. You might be surprised, and you might make some changes. :)



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    Member Workshop: Listing Template Design & Layout Clinic - Sept 18

    Sep 18, 2006 10:30 AM
    Most buyers don't remember their seller's user ID, and might tell a friend, "I got it from some guy on eBay." You've killed your shot at repeat business AND word of mouth when both would have cost you nothing. Give people one consistent name that they can remember. Why should people remember your name? Would you like them to come back and buy again? Would you like them to tell a friend? Then it's important that your name be memorable.

    Your name should also be easy to spell when people think about or hear it. I might somehow remember that your eBay user ID is *items_4u*, but how likely am I to go through the whole process of telling my friend that I got it from, "Star, items, underscore (that's that underline thing), 4 (the number four), u (the letter u), and star again." GOOD LUCK!

    Therefore, I recommend that the following NOT be in your eBay user ID:
  • No words that are not often spelled correctly by the general public
  • No homonyms (there, their, they're or high, hi)
  • No words that are wrong or unconventional spellings of common words (like sportz, gr8t, or krafts)
  • No made-up or nonsense words
  • No number 4 (for "for") and no letter u (for "you")
  • No non-alphanumeric characters (*, !, -, _)
  • No "com" to try to make your user ID look like a .com domain name; find other ways to promote your website but don't hurt your marketing by making your user ID longer and harder to correctly spell

    You can change your eBay user ID as long as you haven't changed it in the last 30 days, and you can keep your feedback and score. Then, I also recommend matching your eBay Store name with your name. It's not good for your branding and identity to have a user ID that's dlevitt3987439874 and a Store name that's "Deb's Items 4U!" If someone remembers your Store name but searches "by seller," they're searching user IDs and won't find you. I like to start Store names with the user ID and add a few words about what you have.

    Once you've settled on a great and memorable user ID with a matching and meaningful Store name, then you can plug these all over your template. It's your opportunity at great marketing, and it'll cost you little or nothing!



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    Member Workshop: Listing Template Design & Layout Clinic - Sept 18

    Sep 18, 2006 10:30 AM
    Hey wait a minute! eBay's own help pages suggest that you name yourself something relating to your business, your hometown (they give georgia_peach as an example), or your sense of style (they give happyhal as an example). Are these the best or only ways to go?

    Not necessarily. That was probably written when eBay didn't think that sellers would get serious enough to want to be brand names that were memorable. They were probably thinking cute and fun, but now you and I are thinking serious marketing. Plus you already know that a buyer is unlikely to tell a friend that she got it from "georgia underscore peach" so I am not for the non-letter characters.

    There are generally two ways to look at naming. You have "full vessels" like "Bob's Computers," "Northwest Eye Doctors," or "Pizza by Jenny." You know what these people do, and the vessel is "full" because Bob couldn't start doing pest extermination and keep his same business name. The business name is focused and doesn't really allow for many potential new areas. "Empty vessels" are names like As Was, eBay, Terapeak, and Infopia. You don't really know what we do just from our name. That works for us as it lets us grow and expand without growing out of our name.

    Georgia Peach, Happy Hal, As Was, and Bob's Computers can all work for you if you put in the marketing effort to make those names mean something to people. If your name doesn't connect with me, then I'm unlikely to remember it. There goes your word-of-mouth and repeat business! So your name can be offbeat or left-of-center. Make it memorable, make it mean something, and spell it the way it sounds!



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    Member Workshop: Listing Template Design & Layout Clinic - Sept 18

    Sep 18, 2006 10:30 AM
    Another question we tend to get in these workshops is about copyright issues. Yes, if you create your own template, that is technically your work unless and until you sign the rights away to someone else. That may not stop someone from stealing it, but you can complain to eBay if someone is ripping off your look and trying to make buyers thing he's you. However, eBay may not stand behind you if your template is not unique and looks like a lot of what's on eBay anyway. If your template is truly unique and someone copies it, that's more of an obvious situation, and you're likely to get some help from eBay on that matter.

    Don't steal someone else's template. That doesn't make you unique or stand out. That makes you look just like them, and can put you in a bad position if eBay starts taking your items down because you stole from someone else. Just imagine it in reverse. What if you had someone design you something special, and some guy just stole it. You'd probably be angry and feel a great injustice, and you'd be right to feel that! So don't do that to someone else. It ranges from wrong to illegal.

    That also goes for taking a template you like and just changing it a bit. That template is someone else's work. What you are creating is called a "dervative work," and that's not legal without having the rights in writing to the original work. The "wife test" for this matter is to imagine if you could do this to a large company like eBay or Microsoft without hearing from lawyers. Replace the seller whose template you like with those big names.

    Be unique and original. Stand out and market yourself. Be the brown truck driving down the street. We all know what it is without having to see the logo. It's that unique from every other delivery truck! So is that red can of soda with the white swoosh on it. You know what that is! You can and should be that special. Don't steal or "borrow" from any other seller. You wouldn't want it done to you, and let's not forget that what goes around always comes around! Or you might get to know some powerful lawyers before it gets the chance to come around! :(



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    Member Workshop: Listing Template Design & Layout Clinic - Sept 18

    Sep 18, 2006 10:30 AM
    Are listing design and layout important? Absolutely! Depending upon what you sell and how you sell it, the impression your listing gives may be the edge you have over someone else. Make some choices about your company's personality, branding, and marketing... make yourself stand out from all of the other items on eBay!

    Many of my workshop attendees tend to ask me to show examples of what I think are good listing designs and layouts. I'm not allowed to show any particular sellers and items here, but you are welcome to visit our company's web page on our clients and case studies. You'll certainly see examples of work I find to be good, but more importantly, it's effective. Link

    I'll now take questions about the above content, listing design best practices, and I'll also review listings, user IDs, and eBay Stores, and give advice as the time we have here allows. Thanks!



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    Member Workshop: Listing Template Design & Layout Clinic - Sept 18

    Sep 18, 2006 10:32 AM
    Good morning :)

    We've posted the content early to allow you to read through the material before the Q&A session.

    Bring your coffee and questions - we'll open the workshop today at 11:00 am PT.

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    Sep 18, 2006 10:57 AM
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    Sep 18, 2006 11:04 AM
    Would you be able to review my storefront and one of my listings to let me know what do you think of it?
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    Sep 18, 2006 11:05 AM
    Sure, please give me an item number.



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