From collectibles to cars, buy and sell all kinds of items on eBay
aAdvanced Search
Topic Locked This topic is locked - uploads are not allowed.
Last Post Mar 28, 2007 1:04 PM by: deirdre@ebay.com
Replies: 65
deirdre@ebay.com
Posts: 3,846

Member Workshop: What is “Cost of Goods Sold” - March 28

Feb 27, 2007 2:20 PM
Topic: Member Workshop: What is “Cost of Goods Sold” and does it affect your eBay business?

Host: keepmore
Date: Wednesday 03/28
Time: 12:00 p.m. to 1:00 p.m. Pacific time
Location: Workshop Board

Description: I am constantly asked ‘What does Cost of Goods Sold mean?”; “How do I track it?”; and, “How will it affect my eBay business profits?”. Please join me, Phyllis Wischer, for our next workshop covering the topic of ‘Cost of Goods Sold’. As the inspirational founder behind KeepMore.net, and a passionate advocate of small business in America, my direction in life, and for KeepMore.net, is guided by what makes small business successful. Knowing how to handle Cost of Goods Sold is a very important function for the eBay business owner.

Cheers,

Deirdre
eBay Community Development
Reply
Name:
Email:
 
Tip: To create a link - type the desired text, highlight it with your mouse and click[Click for url tag]
Tags:
 
)
keepmore
Posts: 588
(1 of 65)

Member Workshop: What is “Cost of Goods Sold” - March 28

Mar 27, 2007 3:32 PM

Hello everyone and thanks for joining us today. My name is Phyllis Wischer and I am the Lead Business Coach at SageFire, Inc. - the creators of KeepMore.net. I am a Public Accountant with over 20 years experience in helping thousands of small business owners with their bookkeeping, accounting, payroll and tax needs.

SageFire is a Certified Solution Provider specializing in helping small business owners' track their business financial activity using our online accounting, contact management and document storage solution. Our solution, KeepMore.net makes it simple for you track your business while maximizing your tax benefits.

Reply
Name:
Email:
 
Tip: To create a link - type the desired text, highlight it with your mouse and click[Click for url tag]
Tags:
 
)
keepmore
Posts: 588
(2 of 65)

Member Workshop: What is “Cost of Goods Sold” - March 28

Mar 27, 2007 3:33 PM

I am a passionate advocate of small business in America. My direction in life, and for KeepMore.net, is guided by what makes small business successful. For eBayers, managing the cost of the goods that you sell is an important function in what makes you successful. So we are going to spend our time today discussing this important subject - the cost of goods you sell or 'Cost of Goods Sold'.

Reply
Name:
Email:
 
Tip: To create a link - type the desired text, highlight it with your mouse and click[Click for url tag]
Tags:
 
)
keepmore
Posts: 588
(3 of 65)

Member Workshop: What is “Cost of Goods Sold” - March 28

Mar 27, 2007 3:34 PM

During today's session we are going to discuss:


  • What does 'Cost of Goods Sold' (COGS) mean?

  • Everyone looks at COGS differently - but everyone should follow the IRS guidelines on this subject

  • How do you calculate "Cost of Goods Sold"?


    • Beginning Inventory

    • Purchases

    • Other Costs

    • Ending Inventory


  • What does the IRS say about tracking inventory and Cost of Goods sold.



Later we will be going through an example that I hope will clarify the subject for you.

Before we go too much further, I want to remind you that I am not here to provide tax advice, just some basic information about calculating cost of goods sold. For your specific tax situation, I recommend you consult with your tax advisor.

So let's get started!

Reply
Name:
Email:
 
Tip: To create a link - type the desired text, highlight it with your mouse and click[Click for url tag]
Tags:
 
)
keepmore
Posts: 588
(4 of 65)

Member Workshop: What is “Cost of Goods Sold” - March 28

Mar 27, 2007 3:35 PM
What does 'Cost of Goods Sold' mean?

Any business that buys or sells (or even makes) goods to produce income has a cost associated with the purchase of those goods; so, need-less-to-say, as an eBayer, you have 'cost of goods' for any item that you sell on eBay. It is vital to record the cost of those goods purchased because you can deduct the cost from your gross receipts in calculating your net income. This reduction in net income is as important as any other cost as it reduces the amount of income tax you will pay each year.

Reply
Name:
Email:
 
Tip: To create a link - type the desired text, highlight it with your mouse and click[Click for url tag]
Tags:
 
)
keepmore
Posts: 588
(5 of 65)

Member Workshop: What is “Cost of Goods Sold” - March 28

Mar 27, 2007 3:35 PM

Let's talk about what costs are considered part of the cost of the goods that you are selling.


  • Cost of the product or materials it takes to make the product, (includes freight when applicable)


    • The cost of the product is simply the amount of money you paid to purchase the item or items that you sell on eBay.

    • This can be the cost you pay as you go about each day currently buying items to sell on eBay, or

    • If this is an item that you bought several years ago for personal use, it is the cost you paid for the item at that time


  • If you cannot remember what you originally paid for the item, you might want to look on eBay for what a "used" item exactly (or very similar) to what you have is currently selling for on eBay and use that as a cost basis.

  • The important thing in using this method is to not be over aggressive in your cost basis calculation as the IRS may want documentation of how you arrived as your basis for the cost calculation.

  • I recommend that, if you do not have a receipt for the purchase of the item, you should document in your records how you arrived at your cost basis. Using our KeepMore.net e-Document Storage module to scan and store the documents you used for the cost basis calculation will help you store those documents in a safe and secure manner.


    • If you purchase your items as you travel throughout the day at garage sales and flea markets, it might be difficult to get a receipt for price of the items that you purchase. You may want to keep a supply of receipt books and put the date, location, description and amount you paid for the items you buy. You might want to get a copy of any flyer or poster available to document the location of sale. You can get blank receipt books at any office supply store. Again, use KeepMore.net's e-Document Storage module to scan and store the receipt and other documents for proof of purchase in case of an audit.

    • Tax Tip! - Don't forget to record your mileage as you travel around purchasing the items you sell on eBay.


  • Cost of storage to store the product


    • This cost may not apply to everyone. If you purchase items to sell on eBay and you also pay for storage to store the items until sold and shipped, the cost of the storage is 100% deductible. You simply record the cost of storage as an additional cost of goods sold.

    • If you use a portion of your home as a place to store your goods, you may deduct the costs related to that portion of your home. If you would like more information about how to deduct the cost of storing goods at your home, I have available a worksheet that will help you better understand how to calculate this deduction and record it for tax purposes. To get your copy, just email me at phyllis@sagefire.com and request a copy.


  • Cost of labor to produce the item


    • This cost may not apply to everyone. The cost of labor to produce an item is the amount of money you pay for wages or contract labor to produce an item.

    • If you are a sole proprietor - you cannot calculate the value of your time as part of the cost of labor.

    • If you have cost to produce an item, you might want to consider speaking to a tax advisor to better understand what other costs related to labor and how to deduct those costs apply in your situation.


  • Cost of overhead where the product is manufactured


    • This cost relates more to the larger manufacturing type businesses; however, if it does apply to you, definitely talk to your tax advisor about this one.


Reply
Name:
Email:
 
Tip: To create a link - type the desired text, highlight it with your mouse and click[Click for url tag]
Tags:
 
)
keepmore
Posts: 588
(6 of 65)

Member Workshop: What is “Cost of Goods Sold” - March 28

Mar 27, 2007 3:35 PM
Everyone looks at COGS differently - but everyone should follow the IRS guidelines on this subject

There are millions of eBayers selling thousands of different types of items on eBay. Some sell specific items (like cars) and they record the cost and sell on a per item basis. Others sell and buy items in bulk. Tracking the cost for the single items like cars is simple. The bulk items may be more difficult.

An example may be someone who buys an entire house full of small items at an estate sale at one lump sum price to list and resale individually on eBay. Here the cost of goods to be sold gets more complicated. There are two methods you might want to consider as you sell those items bought in bulk thoughout your tax year.

The simple method would be to consider the entire cost in one lump sum under purchases; while recording the revenue simply as 'Gross receipts or sales'. Here you do not track the revenue vs. cost of goods sold by item. This method can also be used by the person selling cars. You simply track total revenues against total COGS. The only time you have an issue with this method is at year end when you may have some items bought still not sold (ending inventory); but we will get into that later in the workshop.

If you want more concise profit calculations for the bulk items bought (and you have the time it will take to do the calculations) you have to come up with a method to value the items bought in bulk. The more experienced buyer may know that certain items have a resale value of a certain value; while other items are worthless and may have to be donated to a local charity in order to dispose of them. Using a percentage calculation would work in this situation. Deciding on a method and using it consistently is highly recommended. Again, I recommend you document how you arrived at your cost basis calculation and store that calculation using KeepMore.net's e-Document Storage.

Reply
Name:
Email:
 
Tip: To create a link - type the desired text, highlight it with your mouse and click[Click for url tag]
Tags:
 
)
keepmore
Posts: 588
(7 of 65)

Member Workshop: What is “Cost of Goods Sold” - March 28

Mar 27, 2007 3:36 PM
How do you calculate "Cost of Goods Sold"

Let's follow the format you will see on any tax form requiring calculation of the cost of goods sold. We will follow with a simple example.


  • Beginning Inventory


    • Beginning inventory is the "cost" of all items you have on hand at the beginning of the year.

    • The beginning inventory amount should be identical to the closing inventory of the prior year. If there is a difference between the ending inventory and beginning inventory, a statement explaining the difference must be included when you file your tax return.


  • Plus - Purchases (always remember to deduct the cost of items withdrawn for your personal use)


    • You use the cost of all merchandise bought for sale to calculate purchases. If you make the items that you sell on eBay, this includes the cost of all materials or parts purchased for the items you make. If you are considered a manufacturer, please consult with a tax advisor.

    • Trade discounts, cash discounts and returns and allowances on purchases are all considered a part of the cost of purchases. If your volume of business is large enough to include any of these items you should be consulting with a tax advisor on how to record these as part of your cost of goods sold.

    • Items withdrawn from sale for personal or family use should be deducted from the total cost of your purchases. The cost of items used personally is not allowed as a deduction in calculating your cost of goods sold. Personal use items should be included under an account such as "withdrawal," "drawing" or "personal." In our KeepMore.net tool, you have an account already set up for you called 'Purchases - goods for personal use'.


  • Plus - Labor costs (generally applies to larger manufacturing type companies)


    • Smaller wholesalers and retailers (most eBayers) usually do not have labor costs that can properly be charged to cost of goods sold. Labor costs are usually an element of cost of goods sold only in a manufacturing business. Again, if you are considered a manufacturer, speak with your tax advisor.


  • Plus - Materials and supplies (generally a manufacturing cost)


    • You would include the cost of materials and supplies used directly or indirectly in manufacturing goods as part of cost of goods sold.

    • Treat materials and supplies not used in the manufacturing process as a business expense and deduct them as business expenses at the time of consumption.


  • Plus - Other costs (generally applies to manufacturing cost)


    • Other cost would include such items as containers, freight-in and overhead expenses. Again, these cost normally apply to larger manufacturing businesses; and, if they apply to you, you should consult with your tax advisor.


  • Minus - Inventory at the end of the year


    • Inventory at the end of the year is also known as closing or ending inventory. The ending inventory will usually become the beginning inventory for the next tax year.

    • Ending inventory is the "cost" of the items you have left at the end of the year available for sale next year.

    • The calculation of the cost of items available for sale next year can be simple - the cost of a car that will be sold next year; or,

    • The calculation can be complex as in our example above where you bought a whole houseful of small items at an estate auction and you still have some items left that you will sell next year. You should determine the cost when you purchase your items and document your calculations so that you can document how you arrived at the cost of inventory at the end of the year.
      o Ending inventory is simply the cost of the items you have available for sale next year.


    Reply
    Name:
    Email:
     
    Tip: To create a link - type the desired text, highlight it with your mouse and click[Click for url tag]
    Tags:
     
    )
    keepmore
    Posts: 588
    (8 of 65)

    Member Workshop: What is “Cost of Goods Sold” - March 28

    Mar 27, 2007 3:39 PM

    Let's look at a simple example of how you would calculate the Cost of Goods Sold for the sale of your Widget items on eBay. In this example it is easy to identify each items sold and the related cost of each. We had 10 Widgets at the beginning of the year for which we paid $100 each. We bought 120 more Widgets at a cost of $95 each and at the end of the year we had 20 of these $95 Widgets left to sell next year.




    Now let's look at the same scenario, but we cannot identify which of the Widget were sold, so we must use the Average Cost Method to calculate the cost of the items that were sold.



    I have available an Inventory Worksheet in an excel format that I can send to you on request to assist you in tracking the cost of goods sold. Just send me your request for a copy of the Inventory Worksheet to me at phyllis@sagefire.com.

    Reply
    Name:
    Email:
     
    Tip: To create a link - type the desired text, highlight it with your mouse and click[Click for url tag]
    Tags:
     
    )
    keepmore
    Posts: 588
    (9 of 65)

    Member Workshop: What is “Cost of Goods Sold” - March 28

    Mar 27, 2007 3:39 PM
    What does the IRS say about accrual accounting method, tracking inventory and Cost of Goods sold

    If you maintain inventory, in the past you were required to report your income and expenses on an accrual basis - report income whether actually received yet (accounts receivable) and expenses whether actually paid yet (accounts payable). This created a burden on the small business owner like the average eBayer. So the IRS modified its rules.

    Now, if your annual gross sales are less than $1,000,000, you can report your income and expenses on a cash basis - report income when actually received (ignore accounts receivable) and expenses when actually paid (ignore accounts payable).

    However, you can not deduct the cost of the items purchased for resale if you have not sold those items at the end of the year (ending inventory). In this case, to calculate your cost of goods sold, simple subtract the cost of the goods not sold at the end of the year from your total purchases for the year. Again, document your calculations and scan them in our KeepMore.net e-Document Storage module.

    Reply
    Name:
    Email:
     
    Tip: To create a link - type the desired text, highlight it with your mouse and click[Click for url tag]
    Tags:
     
    )
    keepmore
    Posts: 588
    (10 of 65)

    Member Workshop: What is “Cost of Goods Sold” - March 28

    Mar 27, 2007 3:39 PM
    Why is it important to know your COGS?

    It is important to track the cost of goods that you sell so that you know the profit you make from the sale of those goods. If you are spending more money purchasing the product then you can ever make selling the product, you will always have a loss. By not tracking "all" the cost related to the goods that you sell, how will you know when to increase your prices or even cease selling certain items?

    As mentioned above, it is vital to record the cost of those goods purchased because you can deduct the cost from your gross receipts in calculating your net income. This reduction in net income is as important as any other cost as it reduces the amount of income tax you will pay each year.

    Reply
    Name:
    Email:
     
    Tip: To create a link - type the desired text, highlight it with your mouse and click[Click for url tag]
    Tags:
     
    deirdre@ebay.com
    Posts: 3,846
    (11 of 65)

    Member Workshop: What is “Cost of Goods Sold” - March 28

    Mar 27, 2007 3:47 PM
    Hi everyone:

    We've posted the workshop material early to allow you to read through it. We'll open the workshop on Wednesday, March 28 at 12:00 p.m. Pacific time for questions.

    Grab a buddy, bring your questions and join us for an information-packed hour.

    See you tomorrow,

    Deirdre
    eBay Community Development
    Reply
    Name:
    Email:
     
    Tip: To create a link - type the desired text, highlight it with your mouse and click[Click for url tag]
    Tags:
     
    )
    tommydland
    Posts: 4
    (12 of 65)

    Member Workshop: What is “Cost of Goods Sold” - March 28

    Mar 28, 2007 12:03 PM
    Hi,
    Just wondering how you account for items that may be broken, either during the process of manufacturing or shipping.
    Reply
    Name:
    Email:
     
    Tip: To create a link - type the desired text, highlight it with your mouse and click[Click for url tag]
    Tags:
     
    deirdre@ebay.com
    Posts: 3,846
    (13 of 65)

    Member Workshop: What is “Cost of Goods Sold” - March 28

    Mar 28, 2007 12:03 PM
    Welcome and thanks for joining us today!

    We love workshops to be interactive, so please feel free to ask your questions that directly relate to this topic.

    Added note: If you click on the "Watch this discussion" link, you will receive an email each time someone posts to the workshop.

    Stop Watching: If at any time you no longer want to receive updates on a thread you are watching, just click on the link titled "Stop Watching Thread" found in the specific thread being watched. Also you can remove any watched thread by clicking on the "Watched Discussions" link located in the log in bar and deleting the watched thread.

    If you're new to the discussion boards, please be sure to check out the board tutorial:

    Link

    A from our Legal Department: The statements and opinions made in this discussion board are those of the workshop host only and do not reflect eBay policy or eBay's opinion with respect to such statements.


    Cheers,

    Deirdre
    eBay Community Development
    Reply
    Name:
    Email:
     
    Tip: To create a link - type the desired text, highlight it with your mouse and click[Click for url tag]
    Tags:
     
    )
    zephyr350
    Posts: 8
    (14 of 65)

    Member Workshop: What is “Cost of Goods Sold” - March 28

    Mar 28, 2007 12:05 PM
    I was just wondering how do you account for items that you may have had in your home and decided to sell on Ebay?
    Reply
    Name:
    Email:
     
    Tip: To create a link - type the desired text, highlight it with your mouse and click[Click for url tag]
    Tags:
     
    Page: of 5

    New to eBay Boards? Try a visit to our Community Discussion Boards Help and Welcome Center .

    Want to visit another board? You can view our Community Overview Page or select from these lists:

    Community Help Boards:

    eBay Tools Boards:

    Category-Specific Boards:

    General Discussion Boards:


    Feedback Forum | Discussion Boards | Groups | Answer Center | Chat Rooms | Community Values

    About eBay | Announcements | Security Center | Resolution Center | eBay Toolbar | Policies | Government Relations | Site Map | Help
    Copyright © 1995-2009 eBay Inc. All Rights Reserved. Designated trademarks and brands are the property of their respective owners. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of the eBay User Agreement and Privacy Policy.
    eBay official time
    hosted by LiveWorld