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5 DAYS STRAIGHT, NOT 1 SALES. SELLING FOR 10 YRS.WHAT THE IS GOING ON HERE!
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5 DAYS STRAIGHT, NOT 1 SALES. SELLING FOR 10 YRS.WHAT THE IS GOING ON HERE!
Apr 5, 2010 06:10 PM
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I'd been selling on eBay for nearly 10 years now. With over 1000 items listed.!! This is the first time I'd NO sale at ALL for 5 freaking days straight.!!!!
Is it us, or is anyone else having experiencing the same problem???
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(11,149 of 20,059)
Re: 5 DAYS STRAIGHT, NOT 1 SALES. SELLING FOR 10 YRS.WHAT THE IS GOING ON HERE!
Oct 25, 2010 11:16 PM
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Following a request by Jdbok I am going to post a daily figure of the ebay listings from the PSU site. So we can all watch the "ride" of the de-dupe policy.
As I am New Zealand we see the figures first (he he)
So to kick things off, here are the figures for the last week.
20-Oct116,816,000
21-Oct116,938,000
22-Oct116,966,000
23-Oct116,494,000
24-Oct116,492,000
25-Oct116,300,000
26-Oct115,479,000
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Re: 5 DAYS STRAIGHT, NOT 1 SALES. SELLING FOR 10 YRS.WHAT THE IS GOING ON HERE!
Oct 25, 2010 11:37 PM
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thanks Julie babe!
lets all watch ebay take us for a ride.....
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(11,151 of 20,059)
Re: 5 DAYS STRAIGHT, NOT 1 SALES. SELLING FOR 10 YRS.WHAT THE IS GOING ON HERE!
Oct 26, 2010 12:07 AM
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nelson*art wrote: jdbok wrote: BT I was searching for your post to reply to and what came up was somehting from spring where you say gotta go feed the goat? Ok optimum window now thats a ? for the ages-- is what used to be sunday evenings monday days for me all thats out the window I have the advantage of still having daily sales so I see what times they are tending towards and try to "follow" them. then I just took the plunge and started using persnickety's suggested times and later at night and earlier in the morning started showing more sales. noonish seems to be hot. ( so sad, folks are shopping on thier lunch hour instead eating on a park bench or cafe with their co workers? sad ) I see what sellers are saying on category specific boards and in my vintage category many agree weekdays is it so I try and follw suit. I'm convinced that free listings get put into a test that gets you nothing in return for nothing.... I'm in a total full on blind side with all this I really have no idea what times are good anymore becouse mostly my sales are being driven by whatever test group they put me in I guess. but in those graphs ebay provides you can see the days and times when you had the most sales its not rocket science ( well, for persnickety maybe) but I try and follow the times and days I see sales coming from for me monday and thursday are good sunday ok every other day fair so I'm spreading everything out across all days and times with weight on monday thursday sunday if ebay calms down I think I will be able to make some educated guesses (and de nile is a river in egypt) at what is actually good for me. does anyone else here have any insider knowledge about good times now? opinions? guesses?  My idea of window is how long am I one page 1 under a vatiety of search test using various key phrases a buyer woud actually use and the various ways one can search within a catagory. It is impossible to make that an exact science as you're dealimnng with two moving targets: time and other sellers. But you can get a fairly good ballpark And since I can't always cover every siuation as far as search term and breakdown pick those that are most popular. It's not this n neat and pretty but say my number is every 2 hours. Then I would need at least 1 listing ending every 2 hours to stay on page 1. (that will of course be smaller/larger during course of day and days of the week) likewise might want to account for a smaller window due to more listings so i may round it back to 1 1/2 hours and may deem 1 chance for buyers eyes to hit my listinghs not enough so 1 may set 2 listing 45 mins apart. That combined with the Prime times YOU normaly get hits/bids/sales gives you a good gameplane for what times to target and what kind of blanket you need to keep yourself cover for possible buyers. Why I'd love to sell 10 items an hour the most I ever did in an hour was 7 and i did 5 a few times but generally the numbers 1 so I don't toss so many listings up there to try to sell a number I'll never hit, but at the sametime you need enouh to be seen. If you know 6pm sunday is a GREAT time for you and you know you avg time in prime view is 20 mins then you might want to set 3listingsto end at 6:19, 6:39, 6:59 etc. It's part experience, part research and data, and part feel and obsevering and reacting to the world around you or what seems to be the short term ebb n flow of Ebay. Funny, because that would mean having a LOT of listing up, wouldn't it? And yet four or five posts before the one I quoted here you were advising someone that s/he should drop the number of items they had by half in order to save on overhead. Look, if you're doing well that's great for you. But you seem to think that you've got some 'magic smart-guy' formula for sales. not only THAT, but you actually seem to have contempt for people who aren't in on this fabulous strategy of yours. Did you ever think that maybe you're just lucky? Sure, there's work.. but there's luck, too.
hey there
I've been trying some of his clittlerns techniques and I think even in this glitchy climate I'm finding some patterns in my own sales.
like a few hundred posts back I was doubting doing late(r) night but now after a few weeks of listing at what I would normally think of as wackadoo times-- those times are when I'm getting the most sales
I think
between ebays unreliability and my own lack of research skills who knows what's happening but
my conclusion is
he's for sure smart also a smart alec and its not magic-- its just not how a lot of us work so it seems too good to be true.
but really its just a more complicated and slightly monstrous version of how so many of us used to list
Sunday night
that was an optimum window
now there are a bunch of windows that are all different for dif categories and at any given time will be wiped out by ebay shenanigans
I personally seem to have to list a lot to sell a little- maybe its real or maybe I just don't know very well what I'm doing but someone advising us to know what we're doing shouldn't be thought of as contemptuous.
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Re: 5 DAYS STRAIGHT, NOT 1 SALES. SELLING FOR 10 YRS.WHAT THE IS GOING ON HERE!
Oct 26, 2010 12:27 AM
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Its started.
Its just ticked over Midnight (Californian time) and listings are down to 114,950,000.
I'm going to bed soon.
When I wake up will it be 80 million, or 114 million, or crashed in the dust !
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Re: 5 DAYS STRAIGHT, NOT 1 SALES. SELLING FOR 10 YRS.WHAT THE IS GOING ON HERE!
Oct 26, 2010 02:21 AM
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Woken by the weather radio, I'm on the southern county that ends the 25 MIL PEOPLE tornado & wind storm for the great lakes area! Heads up everyone from Wyoming to Michigan! PS UNITE has same numbers but 0% change at 4:30 am , 2 hours into the change. No change to me, maybe sellers are just flipping them into auctions!
See the board buddies and Mallomar's "most recent" revelation? At the offspring! At the offspring of here ?
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(11,154 of 20,059)
Re: 5 DAYS STRAIGHT, NOT 1 SALES. SELLING FOR 10 YRS.WHAT THE IS GOING ON HERE!
Oct 26, 2010 02:36 AM
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Hoping to get us off this page, no snipe, but "search" at both Mom and Dad and giggle have been broken for quite sometime. You heart of that instant. Well, ebay not the only one with "BM" because ggigle is running by your location and search terms. Unless you opt out. Which is the same as a default change.
See the board buddies and Mallomar's "most recent" revelation? At the offspring! At the offspring of here?
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Re: 5 DAYS STRAIGHT, NOT 1 SALES. SELLING FOR 10 YRS.WHAT THE IS GOING ON HERE!
Oct 26, 2010 02:37 AM
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Yes, dual page watch again. That 'ol large screen is unbearable, No?
See the board buddies and Mallomar's "most recent" revelation? At the offspring! At the offspring of here?
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Re: 5 DAYS STRAIGHT, NOT 1 SALES. SELLING FOR 10 YRS.WHAT THE IS GOING ON HERE!
Oct 26, 2010 03:49 AM
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greenbacks.in wrote:Not awake, admittedly, YOU HEARD OF THAT INSTANT SEARCH? @greenbacks - are you talking about that new thing where when you type into the giggle bar it starts suggesting things with every key stroke? What a numbskull idea! 
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Re: 5 DAYS STRAIGHT, NOT 1 SALES. SELLING FOR 10 YRS.WHAT THE IS GOING ON HERE!
Oct 26, 2010 05:26 AM
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First the first time in the history of the Internet (1995) 3 word searches fair better than 1. Example: instead of chairwould be: chair vintage collectible vintage antique chair vintage collectible chair chair used to bring all results. now to get all results you MUST use all words! It is opposite of what it used to be. NOW the less you use the less you get the more you include NOW the more you get Used to be the less you use the more you get, more persnickety is now less..
See the board buddies and Mallomar's "most recent" revelation? At the offspring! At the offspring of here?
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Re: 5 DAYS STRAIGHT, NOT 1 SALES. SELLING FOR 10 YRS.WHAT THE IS GOING ON HERE!
Oct 26, 2010 05:30 AM
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Good Morning - Well I see the listing numbers have barely fallen over night - reading on some other boards, and people are saying they are just going to let Ebay take their listings down, others said the new bot doesn't even detect duplicates - I think it is all a sham, and many glitches..............No changes for me over night............... On my main selling ID, this one, I have the new selling manager page, but on the new ID I created, I still have the old one, go figure ........... of course hits are still missing this morning on the new page but present on the old one - if you can even believe them............... Bettertimes did you ever get your link figured out?
0 of 0 equals 0 - The Well is Dry - NO coins for me - NO fees for you
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Re: 5 DAYS STRAIGHT, NOT 1 SALES. SELLING FOR 10 YRS.WHAT THE IS GOING ON HERE!
Oct 26, 2010 05:35 AM
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greenbacks.in wrote:First the first time in the history of the Internet (1995) 3 word searches fair better than 1. Example: instead of chairwould be: chair vintage collectible vintage antique chair vintage collectible chair chair used to bring all results. now to get all results you MUST use all words! It is opposite of what it used to be. NOW the less you use the less you get the more you include NOW the more you get Used to be the less you use the more you get, more persnickety is now less.. So what you are saying in a nutshell, is giggle is almost as useless as the bay if someone is going to find you - do they need to do your whole title to bring you up? Well then maybe less is more, we need to shorten them - our titles should only read "Vintage collectible chair" and no more so we have a chance of coming up or should it say "Vintage Green Chair"........... I'm so confused 
0 of 0 equals 0 - The Well is Dry - NO coins for me - NO fees for you
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Re: 5 DAYS STRAIGHT, NOT 1 SALES. SELLING FOR 10 YRS.WHAT THE IS GOING ON HERE!
Oct 26, 2010 05:41 AM
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nelson*art wrote:jdbok wrote: BT I was searching for your post to reply to and what came up was somehting from spring where you say gotta go feed the goat? Ok optimum window now thats a ? for the ages-- is what used to be sunday evenings monday days for me all thats out the window I have the advantage of still having daily sales so I see what times they are tending towards and try to "follow" them. then I just took the plunge and started using persnickety's suggested times and later at night and earlier in the morning started showing more sales. noonish seems to be hot. ( so sad, folks are shopping on thier lunch hour instead eating on a park bench or cafe with their co workers? sad ) I see what sellers are saying on category specific boards and in my vintage category many agree weekdays is it so I try and follw suit. I'm convinced that free listings get put into a test that gets you nothing in return for nothing.... I'm in a total full on blind side with all this I really have no idea what times are good anymore becouse mostly my sales are being driven by whatever test group they put me in I guess. but in those graphs ebay provides you can see the days and times when you had the most sales its not rocket science ( well, for persnickety maybe) but I try and follow the times and days I see sales coming from for me monday and thursday are good sunday ok every other day fair so I'm spreading everything out across all days and times with weight on monday thursday sunday if ebay calms down I think I will be able to make some educated guesses (and de nile is a river in egypt) at what is actually good for me. does anyone else here have any insider knowledge about good times now? opinions? guesses? My idea of window is how long am I one page 1 under a vatiety of search test using various key phrases a buyer woud actually use and the various ways one can search within a catagory. It is impossible to make that an exact science as you're dealimnng with two moving targets: time and other sellers. But you can get a fairly good ballpark And since I can't always cover every siuation as far as search term and breakdown pick those that are most popular. It's not this n neat and pretty but say my number is every 2 hours. Then I would need at least 1 listing ending every 2 hours to stay on page 1. (that will of course be smaller/larger during course of day and days of the week) likewise might want to account for a smaller window due to more listings so i may round it back to 1 1/2 hours and may deem 1 chance for buyers eyes to hit my listinghs not enough so 1 may set 2 listing 45 mins apart. That combined with the Prime times YOU normaly get hits/bids/sales gives you a good gameplane for what times to target and what kind of blanket you need to keep yourself cover for possible buyers. Why I'd love to sell 10 items an hour the most I ever did in an hour was 7 and i did 5 a few times but generally the numbers 1 so I don't toss so many listings up there to try to sell a number I'll never hit, but at the sametime you need enouh to be seen. If you know 6pm sunday is a GREAT time for you and you know you avg time in prime view is 20 mins then you might want to set 3listingsto end at 6:19, 6:39, 6:59 etc. It's part experience, part research and data, and part feel and obsevering and reacting to the world around you or what seems to be the short term ebb n flow of Ebay. Funny, because that would mean having a LOT of listing up, wouldn't it? And yet four or five posts before the one I quoted here you were advising someone that s/he should drop the number of items they had by half in order to save on overhead. Look, if you're doing well that's great for you. But you seem to think that you've got some 'magic smart-guy' formula for sales. not only THAT, but you actually seem to have contempt for people who aren't in on this fabulous strategy of yours. Did you ever think that maybe you're just lucky? Sure, there's work.. but there's luck, too. How would that take a lot of listings???? If you can get on page 1 and be there for 2 hours how many listings would you need to cover say 5PM to 11PM A LOT???? Really????? The basic math needed suggest 3 to 4. If that is "A lot" then "a lot" it is. Even if we deem say 8-10 as extra special and double down it is still nowhere near A LOT unless one's idea of "a lot" is 6 to 7 listings. Which is why I suggested she cut here listings. As I don't think she needs that many. I also pointed out "SHE" must test it herself. If I recall right I WAS ASKED A QUESTION to which I responded. If YOU don't like it I suggest YOU take it up with the ONE who asked me. Or at the very least actually understand what you're jumping all over before you jump. It has nothing to do with any smart guy formula. And I have repeated time and again that my suggestions are only a blueprint. WHO/WHAT/WHERE/HOW all are huge variables. The basic point is very simple. Find what you want to target (such as select time periods) then target them. Which is the EXACT OPPOSITE of A LOT OF LISTINGS which is the ENTIRE POINT. And why on earth would I care if anyone uses my suggestions or not. It's there life. All I suggest is try something new if something old aint working. I've always been curious If one has no real clue about there product, key words, how buyers search andf view, how their items are seen etc how they expect to sale. And WHO SAID I WAS DOING WELL. I said I WAS SELLING at pretty much the same rate since JULY 2009 big difference than "DOING WELL" It has NOTHING to do with DOING WELL and EVERYTHING to do with DOING AS WELL AS YOU CAN. But your right. It's all PURE LUCK. (In fact had you bothered to actually read the previous posts that inspired the question you would clearly see I placed LUCK in there as well.) But again, I DID NOT ASK MYSELF THE QUESTION, so I told em exactly what I use. Don't do it. I really don't care. There's many ways to sell "IF" you are selling. But if you are not, why would you simply go on repeating the same mindless head numbing banging on a barron cell floor. All I suggest is what I can control when asked
Hot Head.
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Re: 5 DAYS STRAIGHT, NOT 1 SALES. SELLING FOR 10 YRS.WHAT THE IS GOING ON HERE!
Oct 26, 2010 05:52 AM
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Are sales still down with every one else ? Just lost power seller, and top seller, because i only have 3 items on there. i would have lost a bundle if i kept them all on
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Re: 5 DAYS STRAIGHT, NOT 1 SALES. SELLING FOR 10 YRS.WHAT THE IS GOING ON HERE!
Oct 26, 2010 05:53 AM
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Hi Nelson Art! We are so happy to have you on our thread where we are seeking answers to the big question at the top of the thread. Sometimes we might seem a little adamant or hot headed but passions come and go here kinda like jekyll and hyde.
Things have not been easy at all since the big April Fools Joke when they put store into core and many have mostly lost their ebay businesses and some of us are still hanging on to see if we will make it through all these changes imposed upon us by the bay and by giggle.
Please try to join in with any tips and techniques that have helped you get back to business or adjust to the "new normal" here - we are hungry for any ideas that may help. Of course, what is helpful for some is not for others as we are all unique sellers in our catagories and types of listings. We are covering many different business models here in this thread and basically act as an open door for anyone to come in who is experiencing this drop in selling and wants to vent or converse about it.
So many times we are very busy with our business when things are clicking along as usual and some have not figured out that it is not just them that is changing but that the venue is causing much of the drop. AND if you listen to ebay CS reps or some of the powersellers they would make you think it is the way you list or whatever. But this is a real phenomenom and happening to folks who have sold successfully here for many years as the thread OP implied.
We have covered a lot of territory and have found some tricks and tips that helped at least for a short while but are scrambling to catch up with the NEW changes happening at this very moment of no duplicates as of today. Thanks for your imput and don't be shy about sharing your thoughts.
Virginia(bettertimes2)
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Re: 5 DAYS STRAIGHT, NOT 1 SALES. SELLING FOR 10 YRS.WHAT THE IS GOING ON HERE!
Oct 26, 2010 05:54 AM
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zappers wrote:Are sales still down with every one else ? Just lost power seller, and top seller, because i only have 3 items on there. i would have lost a bundle if i kept them all on Still struggling from my point of view zappers. Hoping that the no dupes policy might help after the site gets over the glitching that may take place.
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Re: 5 DAYS STRAIGHT, NOT 1 SALES. SELLING FOR 10 YRS.WHAT THE IS GOING ON HERE!
Oct 26, 2010 06:03 AM
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BT - went to look at your listings and it said you had 7 total, but only one is showing............. which is right? another glitch?
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Re: 5 DAYS STRAIGHT, NOT 1 SALES. SELLING FOR 10 YRS.WHAT THE IS GOING ON HERE!
Oct 26, 2010 07:19 AM
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wygmngal wrote:BT - went to look at your listings and it said you had 7 total, but only one is showing............. which is right? another glitch? I do only have one on that ID right now. I let everything end after the weekend hoping for another promotional. I am working on my other ID with the free listings and thanks so much for your help on that insert - GOT IT WORKING....WOOOOHOOOOO! Gotta revel in any accomplishment around here. I know everyone says that the free listings are going nowhere but there again I am hoping to push them with the book of faces and tweatter. I am getting more and more email notices of tweatter followers. Maybe they will be in a buying mood here soon, eh?
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Re: 5 DAYS STRAIGHT, NOT 1 SALES. SELLING FOR 10 YRS.WHAT THE IS GOING ON HERE!
Oct 26, 2010 07:20 AM
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@clittlern and alamar - thank too for help with the insert - gotta love getting connected!
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Re: 5 DAYS STRAIGHT, NOT 1 SALES. SELLING FOR 10 YRS.WHAT THE IS GOING ON HERE!
Oct 26, 2010 07:32 AM
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bettertimes2 wrote:wygmngal wrote:BT - went to look at your listings and it said you had 7 total, but only one is showing............. which is right? another glitch? I do only have one on that ID right now. I let everything end after the weekend hoping for another promotional. I am working on my other ID with the free listings and thanks so much for your help on that insert - GOT IT WORKING....WOOOOHOOOOO! Gotta revel in any accomplishment around here. I know everyone says that the free listings are going nowhere but there again I am hoping to push them with the book of faces and tweatter. I am getting more and more email notices of tweatter followers. Maybe they will be in a buying mood here soon, eh? I got an insert to work, too, and added it to my second ID listings to direct buyers to my main ID - I was having trouble until I made a tiny URL for my page - going to list there today, too, and hopefully something somewhere will be seen - sure are glitches out there - I was just at the PS board, and some are saying listings are gone and Ebay servers have been down in some areas, others say their dupes are disappearing, others not - I suppose it will take time - but one guy reiterated what clittlern1 said, he is having just as many sales with way less listings as he did before with dupes, but he offers in a unique area and I think has a great following
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Re: 5 DAYS STRAIGHT, NOT 1 SALES. SELLING FOR 10 YRS.WHAT THE IS GOING ON HERE!
Oct 26, 2010 08:38 AM
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Yes, I read all of that too. I am just trying to get all my listings back that I lost when things went to pot after the April dump. You know saved listings only hold on about 60 days in your unsold list and I had to let a lot of them go about that time because I couldn't afford to keep listing with no exposure until figuring this thing out. Now I am working at finding a way to get those all back up and it is taking a lot more work than it used to. I use the promos on my store site and now will have the 100 free on the new id. Maybe EVENTUALLY I will get around to creating NEW listings for items I had bought for the holiday season this year but I am taking it slow because you know how ebay likes to throw you monkey wrenches. There is no telling what they will come up with to make our lives more fun as we get closer to Christmas! ![]:)](http://b.us-forums.lvwd.net/images/emoticons/devil.gif)
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Re: 5 DAYS STRAIGHT, NOT 1 SALES. SELLING FOR 10 YRS.WHAT THE IS GOING ON HERE!
Oct 26, 2010 08:45 AM
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bettertimes - if you are using SM or SMP go into the Unsold view and click on Customize. You can set your view at the bottom of the ovrlay page that comes up now to show unsold listings for the last 90 days. Used to be able to do that froma drop down box on the screen itself but now it is hidden on these new pages.
Can't remember off hand if My eBay will go back if set like that for 90 days or not - but you can always go back and copy the number off the listing ended email and paste it into search here and it will come up all the way back to 90 to maybe 91 days. Used to they hung around a few days longer but they have gotten really good about clearing the old ones out now.
But there is a 30 day extra window in there you may not be aware of that you can still retrieve these to list again.
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Re: 5 DAYS STRAIGHT, NOT 1 SALES. SELLING FOR 10 YRS.WHAT THE IS GOING ON HERE!
Oct 26, 2010 09:24 AM
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Another 5 day streak of no sales.
(I tried auctions as suggested- no dice)
I'm quite convinced that I'm invisible for long stretches of time.
When I don't sell here, I don't buy here. It's a shame overall, as sellers are buyers.
I've also decided to stop buying inventory for this venue, & will be winding it down by Spring. Simply tired of being a pawn with the rug pulled out from under me on a regular basis.
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Re: 5 DAYS STRAIGHT, NOT 1 SALES. SELLING FOR 10 YRS.WHAT THE IS GOING ON HERE!
Oct 26, 2010 09:26 AM
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katertakids wrote:Something is definitely going on with the search.....yesterday I had 50 views in a 24 hour period on an item. I relisted the same item the following day I only had 3 views in 24 hours period! What are you using to count your views???
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